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who have windows7 mobile yet?i need it pleas
ratha4 said:
who have windows7 mobile yet?i need it pleas
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It's not even out yet
In addition, Windows 7 will not be released on the HTC Touch HD (T8282). Currently, only the HTC Touch HD2 (T8585) is set receive an official Windows Mobile 7 update in the distant future.
Regards.
Mastoid said:
In addition, Windows 7 will not be released on the HTC Touch HD (T8282). Currently, only the HTC Touch HD2 (T8585) is set receive an official Windows Mobile 7 update in the distant future.
Regards.
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We are going to get WM7 too..you don't think so? you are so far behind
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We are going to get WM7 too..you don't think so? you are so far behind
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You are wrong mate... Microsoft had already stated that no device that was available at the time of the Windows Mobile 6.5 announcement would receive an offical upgrade.
So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases
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You are wrong mate... Microsoft had already stated that no device that was available at the time of the Windows Mobile 6.5 announcement would receive an offical upgrade.
So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases
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You have no idea what the dev's in here are capable of...I mean you should know, you have been here longer than I do and I already know what the dev's in here are capable of..Look how the porting of Android is coming along..you'd be impressed once it's completly done.
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You have no idea what the dev's in here are capable of...I mean you should know, you have been here longer than I do and I already know what the dev's in here are capable of..Look how the porting of Android is coming along..you'd be impressed once it's completly done.
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I do not doubt the ability of any of the developers on xda and i am aware of how well the porting of Android is coming along. For your information, I have spoken to a few friends on xda who have been members of the forum longer than I have and carry good knowledge... they have also confirmed this fact and advised me it's unlikely to happen.
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I do not doubt the ability of any of the developers on xda and i am aware of how well the porting of Android is coming along. For your information, I have spoken to a few friends on xda who have been members of the forum longer than I have and carry good knowledge... they have also confirmed this fact and advised me it's unlikely to happen.
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You never know man..At first they thought that they werent going to be able to port Android and look how far they have gone. Wait a couple more years, hopefully at the end of this year..and you are gonna have WM7 on your HD
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So there's absolutely no chance Windows Mobile 7 will be available for the HD, only the HD2 and future PDA releases
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Mastoid is right..!
The biggest glitch is the HD's hardware as it is incompatible with WM7 in that the new OS requires a capacitive (multi-touch) screen.
When hardware restrictions are involved, not even the top XDA members can help.
band27 said:
Mastoid is right..!
The biggest glitch is the HD's hardware as it is incompatible with WM7 in that the new OS requires a capacitive (multi-touch) screen.
When hardware restrictions are involved, not even the top XDA members can help.
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i knew there were restrictions but i was unsure of what kind exactly. Unfortunately, as you stated, the HD does not support the pinch-to-zoom feature.
Thank you band27.
If you watch the WM7 UI on youtube..you are gonna see them using the touch pro of choice and some other phones to promote windows mobile 7..so it is obvious that touch pro and diamond users are going to have WM7 on their phones too.
EDIT watch it yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNbmkes8Lc
hello00 said:
If you watch the WM7 UI on youtube..you are gonna see them using the touch pro of choice and some other phones to promote windows mobile 7..so it is obvious that touch pro and diamond users are going to have WM7 on their phones too.
EDIT watch it yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MNbmkes8Lc
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Time will tell as it is now nothing more then a waiting game.
The full capacity of WM7 can only be unleashed through the proper devices. Diamond and touch pros are not these devices and if WM7 makes it to these devices in some shape way or form, it will be interesting....
The argument in question was specifically dealing with whether or not the HD could support Windows Mobile 7 - it has been justified that it cannot due to hardware requirements... i rest my case.
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The argument in question was specifically dealing with whether or not the HD could support Windows Mobile 7 - it has been justified that it cannot due to hardware requirements... i rest my case.
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You have not made a valid argument yet you have some weird standards of what it means to have the "hardware requirements" then.
Touch Pro has 528 MHz so does the Diamond, HD, Xperia X1, and the TP2. Devices with 528Mhz and above, are ABLE to run Windows Mobile 7. Enough said ^^
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Touch Pro has 528 MHz so does the Diamond, HD, Xperia X1, and the TP2. Devices with 528Mhz and above, are ABLE to run Windows Mobile 7. Enough said ^^
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just that you're not unleashing W7's potential.
It's just like having a 1GHz Snapdragon processor, which supports HD videos, on a currently-officially-running-under-Windows-Mobile-6.5 HD2 , or if this is unclear, another example: running Windows 7 on a PC with 200Mhz processor and not-touchable-monitor
here's a major requirement that HD not fulfilled:
Touch: Multi-touch required
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unless you provide resistive multi-touch software and reconfigure our HDs and so on.
WM7 will not be coming to the HD officially or unoffically, case closed....some of XDA's wonder developes may be able to get some builds working on HD, but these will be limited and you will never see wm7's full potential. It would like having a ferrari, but being restricted to 1st gear and 30 miles an hour. May look nice on the HD, but whats the point of having it
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Just Got My HTC Desire (UNLOCKED)
and BTW loving every bit of it
was wondering that if in the future it would be possible to run Windows Phone 7 on HTC Desire??
or
[Poll] Whether anyone is interested to run windows phone 7 on Desire?
P.S. Just Learnt someone is working a port of andoid on the iphone (not )
Lol! That will take some effort to make.
It will be really good though, just depends on what future android releases are like.
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
I went with Desire cuz I didnt want to have a windows phone nor Symbian but had no money for an Iphone. lol. So thanks but no thanks.
lol the Desire is much better than the iPhone
You should be happy that you didn't have the money
That's like saying can iPhone OS be ported to the Desire.
Never gonna happen with a closed source OS.
shaundalglish said:
Windows Phone can not be ported, cause it is closed source.
And why would you want that crap anyway?
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you're calling it crap when it's not even out yet? 0.o
It might not be as good as android, but im sure it's not 'crap'
It's just my opinion, but yes, I call it crap.
i agree
I agree I had a windows phone everything was so complicated... windows stick to home pcs
Dualboot IMO
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
If WP7 would ever be ported on Desire, I would probably just test it, to see what its all about. and then delete it...
It would be interesting to play with, but I doubt it would be possible
There's a project porting android to the iPhone, and it's proving very difficult even with Android being open source. So closed source, I don't think it would work..
Android is open source, it can be configured to diffrent device configurations, windows phone isnt, as the most of the driver, sensors and hardware for the desire was written using the android open source project, they arnt compatible with windows phone full stop lol
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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If htc releases a phone with win phone 7 which hardware is equal to desire - might be a possibility.
But I can not imagine one dev wanting to do that
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i dont even think that would be possible, the sdk htc used to write the sensor and harware code isnt compatible with windows, on the other hand, android can be configured to run on hardware written to run on windows phone thats the problem lol
dexteral said:
http://www.cnet.com.au/telstra-leak-shows-a-desire-to-range-htc-s-mozart-339304024.htm
looks just like htc desire but windows phone 7 .
maybe hardware specs r same as well
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So umnmm.....did anyone actually READ the link?
Today's internet leak is brought to you by our friends at Adobe Photoshop and is apparently known as the HTC Mozart.
A leaked internal Telstra document is offering the first indication of when we might actually see a Windows Phone 7 device in stores and all but confirms that HTC will be one of the first manufacturers to launch a phone running Microsoft's overhauled OS.
We suggest you forget about the image, which is clearly just an HTC Desire with a WP7 home screen photoshopped onto the front of it. However, what is really interesting is the AU$49 per month price cap, Telstra's newest and lowest available Next G cap. Everyone who assumed that the first swell of WP7 phones would run at a premium cost (us included) were obviously mistaken.
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I would use it. The more I play with Windows Phone 7 the more I am sure it is going to be a serious player in the mobile world. I love the openess of Android, but I've been playing with several WP7 ui apps and I want more!
I would buy a WP7 phone as a secondary, but as of yet, I don't really like any of the hardware currently available with AT&T bands...
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WP7 has been ported to HTC HD2; maybe it was easier because WP7 is based on Windows CE 6, as winmo was.
Hi All
Is it possible, that will come an Windows Phone 7 rom on the HTC desire???
No development and posted before: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814839
That would be nice!
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mission impossible
Okay, here's the question that appears in most of these threads:
...Why would you want an inferior OS installed on top of Android?
I had a play with wp7 the other day, on the outside it seemed very very sleek and user friendly but when you read the reviews about what is missing.... urg. Its like going back to basics
Moved to Q&A. As was stated in the thread title, this is a question, so it should not be posted in development.
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...Why would you want an inferior OS installed on top of Android?
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Inferiority is in the eye of the beholder. So please don't state an opinion as being fact. Some of us just like to try different things, whether it be roms or OSs.
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PinkySlayer said:
Inferiority is in the eye of the beholder. So please don't state an opinion as being fact. Some of us just like to try different things, whether it be roms or OSs.
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Thats not true, wp7 is inferior to android in every respect, it might look deep, but if you read up on all.the things ms has left out, it can barely be called a smartphone os, more like a feature phone......
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WP7 is effectively a brand new OS (primarily because the previous versions were so awful) so it is bound to be lacking in some areas. But compare Android v1 to WP7 v1 and the comparison isn't so favourable. M$ are sometimes slow to join the party, but give them time and the will give android a damned good run for its money.
But put all that aside, it all comes down to personal preference. I have worked with Windows since 3.1 and although I have tried various favours of Linux, I don't "get it". I used iOS for 18 months b4 Android and Android is inferior in many ways, but it comes down to personal preference.
And remember, XDA Developers was originally a Windows Mobile forum, so don't be so closed minded about people's individual choices.
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WP7 is effectively a brand new OS (primarily because the previous versions were so awful) so it is bound to be lacking in some areas. But compare Android v1 to WP7 v1 and the comparison isn't so favourable.
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Why would I compare Android V1 to WP7? Android V1 with WP1, maybe, but if you want to tell me that WP7, after so many editions/versions, is similar to Android V1, that is one huge fail my friend.
On topic.. it's impossible and I agree that the interest to put inferior OS is really low. Those are very few people that would have it installed (if it was possible) and soon after remove it. For those I don't think any dev would go the hard way of porting WP7 to Desire.
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Why would I compare Android V1 to WP7? Android V1 with WP1, maybe, but if you want to tell me that WP7, after so many editions/versions, is similar to Android V1, that is one huge fail my friend.
On topic.. it's impossible and I agree that the interest to put inferior OS is really low. Those are very few people that would have it installed (if it was possible) and soon after remove it. For those I don't think any dev would go the hard way of porting WP7 to Desire.
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Come on, you say that something is impossible on a developers forum?
There was a short youtube movie a few months back, which showed WP7 booting up on a HD2. So it's not impossible, it's just a question if there are some devs that want to put time in it
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Why would I compare Android V1 to WP7? Android V1 with WP1, maybe, but if you want to tell me that WP7, after so many editions/versions, is similar to Android V1, that is one huge fail my friend.
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And Android v1 was a development of....? Linux. Hardly a new development, whereas WP7 is new from the ground up.
The point is, some of us would love to experiment with different OSs but don't want to, or can't afford to buy new hardware to do so. Whereas some other people are so blinkered that they think Android is the ultimatimate OS - this is a subjective decision based on personal preference, not an absolute quantifiable fact.
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Those are very few people that would have it installed (if it was possible) and soon after remove it
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In your opinion. As I said before, this was a Windows Mobile forum long before it incorporated other OSs and devices, but you wouldn't know that as you've only been on here for a year or so.
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And Android v1 was a development of....? Linux. Hardly a new development, whereas WP7 is new from the ground up.
The point is, some of us would love to experiment with different OSs but don't want to, or can't afford to buy new hardware to do so. Whereas some other people are so blinkered that they think Android is the ultimatimate OS - this is a subjective decision based on personal preference, not an absolute quantifiable fact.
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your missing the point totally, im no fanboy trust me, but although android is based on an established os, it it googles first attempt at creating an operating system where as microsoft have been doing this for well over a decade. anyway my point is android is a smartphone os, all microsoft have created is a ms iphone, wp7 is not a smartphone os more like a feature phone os, windows mobile was more like the pc version of windows, where as wp7 is just a microsoft phone, it leaves little for developers to create, as they have to do this and that and plaster ms all over the place just like apple enforce with the iphone.
android has alot more scope for development and alot more freedom for developers to develop there ideas. anyway the bottom line is wp7 is not open source, there will never be any source code available for it, this makes porting it an almost impossible task, i dare say i could count the people on 1 hand that have the ability to do this task
ps ive been on here for alot longer than may 10, i changed my tag when i moved to android, my first device was a htc kaiser
Call me Mr Argumentative, but...
AndroHero said:
your missing the point totally, im no fanboy trust me, but although android is based on an established os, it it googles first attempt at creating an operating system
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Google didn't create an OS, they ported an established one.
AndroHero said:
anyway my point is android is a smartphone os, all microsoft have created is a ms iphone, wp7 is not a smartphone os more like a feature phone os
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Definition of smartphone: "A smartphone is a mobile phone offering advanced capabilities, often with PC-like functionality".
Definition of feature phone: "A mobile phone or mobile (also called cellphone and handphone) is an electronic device used for mobile telecommunications (mobile telephone, text messaging or data transmission)"
I think that your understanding of these terms is way off.
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it leaves little for developers to create, as they have to do this and that and plaster ms all over the place just like apple enforce with the iphone. android has alot more scope for development and alot more freedom for developers to develop there ideas.
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You seem to suggest that a smartphone needsto be opensource whereas most smartphone OSs are in fact proprietary, e.g. Blackberry, iOS, WebOS, BadaOS and before Symbian went open source a year ago, closed source would have accounted for about 80% of the market!
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anyway the bottom line is wp7 is not open source, there will never be any source code available for it, this makes porting it an almost impossible task, i dare say i could count the people on 1 hand that have the ability to do this task
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Fair comment, but it would still be very cool.
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And Android v1 was a development of....? Linux. Hardly a new development, whereas WP7 is new from the ground up.
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I think you will find that WP7 is based on Windows CE 6, with some elements from the forthcoming CE 7. So not at all new really considering that CE 6 dates from 2006!
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You are correct, it is a CE6/CE7 hybrid, so it has much in common with Android in that they are new platforms based on existing underlying technology. Shud have checked my facts on that one.
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People who say that it isn't possible, check here:
WP7 running on the HD2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832533
Lennyz1988 said:
People who say that it isn't possible, check here:
WP7 running on the HD2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=832533
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There's potentially a very big difference!
The existing WM bootloader (IPL/SPL etc) on the HD2 may make it possible to boot WP7 on it. I'm not saying this is definitely the case, but it does seem quite likely to me. In addition, they are talking about this being an early build of WP7 - again, it's quite likely that the HD2 was used as a test platform for WP7.
That's not to say that it would be impossible to get WP7 running on a Desire, but it does given potential reason why it would be a lot harder than on the HD2.
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Dave
Alright guys..
Chaosz-X said:
Theoretically, it's possible. HD2 has the QSD8250 too, and they have MAGLDR and cLK, and the 8250 is perfect for WP7. So yes, if there's someone out there who can write the code for a nice bootloader capable of booting other OS's, you could run WP7.
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This all sounds very nice and perhaps Chaosz was being sarcastic (i can't see these things in English -.-), this does sounds like its not going to happen?
Would it be possible?
Magdlr was (at least I think so) easier to do for the HD2 seeing it was already capable of running WinMo, than it would be to create a similar one for Desire?
Or am I wrong and someone already thought about it and I'm just to retarded to search properly?
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It's not legal to do so, MS would be very upset if WP7 was hacked up and put into an Android device, you're forgetting that we use Android Open Source Project, (AOSP) ROMs. Other phone manufacturers for Android are also very relaxed about having their UI's modified and included in ROMs.
MS weren't overly happy having Windows 6.xx made into custom ROMs for the HD2, but the OS was so old, and they already had WP7 in development I guess they just didn't care.
Oh yeah. I totally did forget everything about legal issues. So used to having open source android, that you forget
Thanks man.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402534
Hey guys! I was reading an article that shows a M8 running windows mobile 8. I saw it pop up on multiple sites so it must be really comming. I was just wondering what if the device had the same specs as ours. Doesn't that nean that in the future we may be able to run it on ours. Not that I would ditch android but just the thought of having the best of both worlds gets me excited. How about you? Any thoughts?
Windows phone 8.1 not mobile
I'm not interested in using Windows phone as my daily driver but would be cool if we can dual boot wp and android.
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kirdroid said:
Windows phone 8.1 not mobile
I'm not interested in using Windows phone as my daily driver but would be cool if we can dual boot wp and android.
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Sorry lol I don't keep up that much with windows but hey it would be cool to dual boot just because why not. Using another os without having to commit to it sounds great.
I'd love a dual boot, but if I recall it's sort of a legal grey area. Windows phone isn't free like android, so it's possible that the m8's that ship with windows phone will get unofficial android support, those of us that have them that shipped with android haven't "paid" for a windows license for the phones, so we may not get unofficial WP support.
It's going to be a re-release of the m8 as the w8 running wp8.1. It's not a dual boot phone just a "new" device apparently.
But if there were certain developers that got curious and dedicated to porting wp to the Android m8 it would just be a matter time. Identical hardware only rebranded as a Windows phone with working drivers. Techically a working hboot/boot loader similar to magldr for HD2 would do it.
But that's all what ifs on a device that's not the m8.
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It's going to be a re-release of the m8 as the w8 running wp8.1. It's not a dual boot phone just a "new" device apparently.
But if there were certain developers that got curious and dedicated to porting wp to the Android m8 it would just be a matter time. Identical hardware only rebranded as a Windows phone with working drivers. Techically a working hboot/boot loader similar to magldr for HD2 would do it.
But that's all what ifs on a device that's not the m8.
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But see, the HD2 came with windows phone first, so it technically had the license for it. The M8 android edition doesn't have the windows licensing so I'm not sure if a developer would want to undertake that task and risk the wrath of microsoft.
I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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Partition layout are different between the two different OS. An RUU would not flash and if it did you would screw up your phone emmc so brick.
I am by no means an expert but I know the partition are different from GPE and Sense and with soff you can still flash. In theory wouldn't that be the same? I maybe way off.
If this had the support of Nexus community I bet you a working wp8 could work. For instance if their was a nexus 5 that happened to run WP8.
In any case I would love to at least try a try WP8. I am sure I will be running back to android a weeks tops though
TriBeard said:
I'd love a dual boot, but if I recall it's sort of a legal grey area. Windows phone isn't free like android, so it's possible that the m8's that ship with windows phone will get unofficial android support, those of us that have them that shipped with android haven't "paid" for a windows license for the phones, so we may not get unofficial WP support.
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Windows announced a couple months back that all devices under 8 or 9 inches are free now. No need to pay for a license. I'll have to look up the article I read, but I'm sure a quick Google search would yield done results.
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Harmtan2 said:
Windows announced a couple months back that all devices under 8 or 9 inches are free now. No need to pay for a license. I'll have to look up the article I read, but I'm sure a quick Google search would yield done results.
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Looks like you are spot on! Which answers the question and makes it more plausible.
Free Windows phone for devices < 9" Save your jokes!
This almost makes me feel like Microsoft should make it easier to convert an Android version for people that are curious to use their OS. Furthermore, it would be brilliant to help adoption rate if they give free licenses and encourage existing devices to convert to Windows in a simple easy way. Starting to see some light here.
A ROM like the gpe one coming? But w8
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md1008 said:
I think if this wp8 phone had identical hardware and a stock RUU were to appear one could flash this ROM with S-OFF.
Technically speaking sense is not open source and that doesn't stop people from attempting to port it other devices. Almost always OEM ports are proof of concept.
Unless Windows/HTC were to issue a cease and desist letter to the dev community (which I don't see happening considering at this point they would be thrilled people would have an interest period) I don't see this being an issue if hardware specifications are the same or equal enough
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MS already went after XDA, hence all the windows phone software on the site was removed.
Is this true?
Oops posted in wrong forum...
I would love the idea of dual boot, but honestly I would do Android/UbuntuPhone