hi all,
I read this thread just now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857188
I wanna talk about the same thing but that thread has been closed.
According to some website, I found both G10 and iPhone4 are based on ARM architecture. I have use IDA to analyse some files in iOS 4.2.1 update packages and I found it use ARM7 instruction set. So I think there is still some possibility to port iOS kernel to G10. Is there anyone who also interested on this? Could you tell me something useful about this project? Thanks a lot.
BTW: If you think this post makes no means, please do not laugh at me as the guys who has done this in the thread above. I only talk about my idea. Although this idea maybe impossible to be implemented. I hope you can give me some adivse, information or others, not your ridicule. Thanks in advance.
It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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It's about as likely as getting windows phone 7 to work on the DHD. Without the source it's probably an impossible undertaking as the kernel will need to be rewritten with the correct hooks and drivers to work on the DHD.
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Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
jilingshu said:
Yes, I was agree with your opinion. The driver is really needed to be written for a new device. But for some basic peripheral such as touch-screen, may have a common driver between iphone and desire hd?
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Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
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Highly unlikely in my opinion, if you want iOs on your phone buy an iphone.
BTW I'm sure if you did manage the port you would be unable to connect to iTunes to install apps so would be restricted to clydia etc
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I just discuss about the possibility and gather information about this. So, do not suggest me to buy a iPhone. BTW: I'd like to buy a iPad2 when it released.
Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
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Why would you want iOS on a DHD?
That would be a downgrade
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Nowadays Android can run well on iPhone. So why not try to port iOS to Android phone?
I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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I think a major issue would be the screen resolution; the DHD runs at 800x480 and the iphone4 runs at something like 960x640 this would mean that everything would just be wrong, and most probably wouldn't do anything at all. I don't think that it would really be viable for a dev to work on something like this, especially as quite a few of us (me for example) moved away from iOS for Android.
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hmm... Resolution is a issue only for application developers... It should not be a problem for kernel porting I think.
i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
panyan said:
i have been highly involved in OSX86 which is where you are porting mac osx to work on windows machines and from that, i can safely say that this project would involve so much work that you are essentially rewriting the whole OS
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Yes. To driver the peripheral device, we have to write all the driver or at least, modify the original driver. Without the source code, this would be too hard.
BTW: Is it possible for us to port xnu(or the kernel of mac os x) to ARM platform just as iOS do?
And why would you want to
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you don't have iOS source right, you will have to disassemble and go thorugh lots of code, replace a lot of things, then fix so that every thing works in a flow..
This will take years! with no assurance of success again. you may also have to find security holes in iOS again to load it on a different phone.
If you had the source then few months!
Not to mention a possible law suit from Apple.
Hi folks.....it s possible have dualboot on DHD?how to install win7 on DHD? It s possible porting os6 of blackberry on DHD or HD2? thanks.....
^^^^ no its not possible right to put up Win7 on DHD! don't think anybody is going to work on that also.
But Win7 is ported to HD2, or not? Correct me, if i'm wrong. And if it's ported to HD2, it should be possible to port it to the DHD.
I think the problem is only the boot not the porting....because on the HD2 is possible load win7, linux, winxp, android, ecc ecc.....
IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
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IOs is like having an Sexually transmitted disease like chlamydia
Its common amongst people and has bad effects on the market.
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Ok,epic!
Anyway,why would anyone want iOS?I find it pure bs.But even if there was a way and a reason,would porting it be important enough to put you against Apple?Because,and excuse me everyone for the language I use,the bastards over at apple can sue you for naming a product with an "i" in front!
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Can I port Windows mobile onto my HTC Desire?
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are you winding me up?
Why would you want to do that - i dont think its possible, and im sure someone will back me up
I'm sure after much development it could be done but most people here won't get close to windows mobile with a stick!!!!! I think most of us are running away from it, so yes, it can probably done but no, it's not likely anybody is going to do it!
Okay lol, Does anyone know whats the best Modded rom i can port to my Desire? please provide links
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=628
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Can I port Windows mobile onto my HTC Desire?
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If you wanted to run WM you should have probably just bought yourself an HTC HD2 instead.
Windows mobile on desire might sound stupid but....
I was wondering about the same... I have quite a few apps for windows mobile and work email sync on windows mobile is so great - those two things combined made me wonder, maybe I can run WM on this great device?
So the question is not as stupid as it first might look. Anyone have some more info?
Why ask the same question every 2 weeks creating new thread with same discussions?
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So the question is not as stupid as it first might look. Anyone have some more info?
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I'm afraid it is, because it gets asked with alarming regularity and each time it is met with the same derision.
The simple fact of the matter is that most of the people who have the necessary skills to port WinMo to an Android probably bought one to get away from WinMo in the first place.
In addition, it's far easier to port Android to a WinMo phone because Android is open source.
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What if everything is erased... kernel, android rom etc.... then install windows mobile on the desire? is it possible? Some people are not running away from it lol like me XD.
I'm sorry...so you only want the desire hardware? I love my Desire but there's nothing in the hardware over say a HD2, so what is this frankly odd post about? People who want to run WM6.5 have several options, why buy an Android phone and wonder about another OS?
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I'm sorry...so you only want the desire hardware? I love my Desire but there's nothing in the hardware over say a HD2, so what is this frankly odd post about? People who want to run WM6.5 have several options, why buy an Android phone and wonder about another OS?
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nexus-one-runs-windows-3-11-possibly-the-saddest-thing-weve-se/
Probably as close as you're going to get.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/17/nexus-one-runs-windows-3-11-possibly-the-saddest-thing-weve-se/
Probably as close as you're going to get.
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Oh yeah I would love Windows 3.1 :'( :'( lol
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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Since when are phones just like computers? Yes these are smart phones and you can get "software" for them, but they are still integrated systems. Here, if it's JUST like your computer add more RAM. Upgrade the processor. Get a better GPU for it. You can't...it's NOT a computer in the sense you think.
If I want a Linux computer I buy one, if I want Windows then I'm a fool for buying the Linux system and vice-versa. These phones are now just a couple of hardware buttons and a screen. The difference is mostly software so buying an android phone when you really want WM is just plain dumb.
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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It's nowhere near as easy as just wiping the device's ROM and flashing some generic WM ROM, you'd bump into all kinds of conflicts. You'd need device drivers for your specific set of hardware, which are mostly available only to the manufacturers and more than often only come for the O/S iteration the manufacturer designed the phone around.
Seriously, you're way better off selling your Desire for a original WM phone.
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Because Phones are just like computers? come pre-installed with Linux.... If you had a choice you could wipe it off and put Windows on the computer. But what is so difficult of doing that on the Desire? its just basically the same really.
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Linux and Windows come with drivers for all sorts of hardware. In addition, if they are not on your installation media, you can usually download and install them.
To get WinMo on the Desire, you're going to need the drivers for the hardware. Some might exist, some might not - the problem is getting them an integrating it into a ROM.
Chances are that even if you could do it, it would be a suboptimal solution - if you want to run WinMo, buy a WinMo device.
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I guess it's only a matter of time before our phones start running multiple operating systems simultaneously within a virtual machine.
Before I get boo'd off the stage, just hear me out.
I'm new to the whole cell phone modding scene as the EVO is the first nice phone I've ever had. When I get a new product, I'm the type of person that's going to customize it any way possible, even at the risk of breaking it (gotta love those high risk behaviors).
So my question is, what is the likelihood of seeing an unofficial WinMo7 flash for the EVO? Is this just way beyond the technical capabilities of anyone on the modding scene without access to internal specs? Are there any other phones that this type of thing has been done on to provide a frame of reference?
Don't get me wrong, I love Android and I've been very supportive of the products and developers on the marketplace. I'd just really like the option to flash WinMo7 if I wanted to.
And hey, at least I didn't say iOS4 right?
Considering that WM7 is about 4-6 months out from even being released, it is probably a little silly to be talking about this right now.
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Before I get boo'd off the stage, just hear me out.
I'm new to the whole cell phone modding scene as the EVO is the first nice phone I've ever had. When I get a new product, I'm the type of person that's going to customize it any way possible, even at the risk of breaking it (gotta love those high risk behaviors).
So my question is, what is the likelihood of seeing an unofficial WinMo7 flash for the EVO? Is this just way beyond the technical capabilities of anyone on the modding scene without access to internal specs? Are there any other phones that this type of thing has been done on to provide a frame of reference?
Don't get me wrong, I love Android and I've been very supportive of the products and developers on the marketplace. I'd just really like the option to flash WinMo7 if I wanted to.
And hey, at least I didn't say iOS4 right?
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chances are damn near nil. winmo7 is not open source, so there will be no code available to get the kernel up and running. no kernel --> no talky talky between software and hardware.
You have a better chance of being struck by lightening twice in the same spot.
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You have a better chance of being struck by lightening twice in the same spot.
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Or seeing WinMo 6.x on the EVO
timothydonohue said:
chances are damn near nil. winmo7 is not open source, so there will be no code available to get the kernel up and running. no kernel --> no talky talky between software and hardware.
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This confuses me... windows mobile 6.x isn't open source either, but people found all sorts of ways to mix and match hardware and software installs. Devices that stopped getting updated at WM5 ended up with user based ROMs for 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 years later.
Thank you for the valid responses I'm just trying to wrap my head around the cell phone scene so the input was much appreciated.
To the others, well, thank you for trolling. Who woulda thought that a legitimate question located in the legitimate forum would be so ridiculously stupid, amirite?
ok i will be the first
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
there is the OS Licensing cost.
as i understand it, Android is free (more free beer than free speech but that's a different thread). Microsoft is not ever free.
hence, if you hack android you're a potential nerd...if you hack windows you're a potential criminal.
kinda the same reason we don't put the apple os on devices...it's closed source.
oh yeah...and then there is the most important question... why would you want to defile your EVO like that?
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This confuses me... windows mobile 6.x isn't open source either, but people found all sorts of ways to mix and match hardware and software installs. Devices that stopped getting updated at WM5 ended up with user based ROMs for 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 years later.
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Interfacing an OS to hardware is all about drivers. On top of that, the software must be compiled with the correct instruction set for the CPU. This is why upgrading to a newer Win Mobile can be possible, but not Android to Win.
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SharkUW said:
Interfacing an OS to hardware is all about drivers. On top of that, the software must be compiled with the correct instruction set for the CPU. This is why upgrading to a newer Win Mobile can be possible, but not Android to Win.
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not correct. WinMo7 is using ARM instructions just the same as WinMo6, WinMo5, 2003, Android, and everyone else unless you know something I don't.
Even further WinMo7 will most likely run on Snapdragon chips... so we can pull the necessary drivers from other systems.
The only thing that would be needed is either a haRET style bootloader but for WinMo or a dual bootloader that can load either WinMo7 or Android.
I was wondering if was even possible, i noticed that verizon doesn't even have a windows mobile 7 phone and i'd like to play with it for a bit and yes the whole xbox live thing interests me
Then you will have to wait for verizon to have a WP7 Phone. Even if a rom was somehow ported over and made to work with the Increbile, it would be very limited, and it's already been said that the xbox live function would not be able to work. I don't have the link for it but a quick google search should net you that information.
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I was wondering if was even possible, i noticed that verizon doesn't even have a windows mobile 7 phone and i'd like to play with it for a bit and yes the whole xbox live thing interests me
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Bobboman, that would be an interesting concept. I wrote the thread regarding possibly porting over a BBerry 6 styled UI, but no takers and don't even know if it is possible at that.
MIUI gives you an iPhoneish experience and that makes me believe if somebody invested their time in prepping such a ROM resembling WP7 or BBerry 6, it could be accomplished. Again, i'm just speculating here, but I like where your head is at and I too look forward to anything our crazy bad ass Dev's come up with.
it really would, i did like MIUI but at the same time it felt way too much like the Iphone for me to continue using it though my ex girlfriend is using it on her droid OG
Bobboman said:
it really would, i did like MIUI but at the same time it felt way too much like the Iphone for me to continue using it though my ex girlfriend is using it on her droid OG
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I had the same issue. The trick to miui is using the aosp elements theme. No more iPhoney icons.
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There is a WP7 theme, if you just want the look. The info is in Android Themes and Apps.
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Bobboman, that would be an interesting concept. I wrote the thread regarding possibly porting over a BBerry 6 styled UI, but no takers and don't even know if it is possible at that.
MIUI gives you an iPhoneish experience and that makes me believe if somebody invested their time in prepping such a ROM resembling WP7 or BBerry 6, it could be accomplished. Again, i'm just speculating here, but I like where your head is at and I too look forward to anything our crazy bad ass Dev's come up with.
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Cooking a ROM that has a similar feel to WP7 and actually porting it (which is what the OP wants) are two entirely different animals. Customizing the appearance of the UI is one thing... actually implementing the functionality that's core to WP7 is an entirely different animal. Since WP7 is not open source, a successful port is extremely problematic at best... even Android to Android ports have their limitations (such as those found in the Desire Z ports).
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Cooking a ROM that has a similar feel to WP7 and actually porting it (which is what the OP wants) are two entirely different animals. Customizing the appearance of the UI is one thing... actually implementing the functionality that's core to WP7 is an entirely different animal. Since WP7 is not open source, a successful port is extremely problematic at best... even Android to Android ports have their limitations (such as those found in the Desire Z ports).
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Thanks for actually trying to explain the difficulty in porting such a ROM instead of bashing me for asking or proposing a similiar idea.
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Thanks for actually trying to explain the difficulty in porting such a ROM instead of bashing me for asking or proposing a similiar idea.
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No bashing here. Some rabid purists would say, "If you want the ____ experience, you should buy a ____ phone". Hell, one of the main bennies of our phones is customization.
Like I said though, it would be possible for someone with talent (that I admittantly lack) to come up with a similar UI. But without access to source, porting the functionality that we'd want from WP7 isn't especially probable.
thanks for explaining that najaboy i figured that it was as simple as getting ahold of stock windows mobile 7 giving it the Inc drivers and going from there
i saw that the HD2 is running it so i thought it might be possible to bring it to the inc even with basic functionality if i knew how to even attempt it i would my self
and yea themeing is not something i'm interested in, i do like the stock look of android but windows mobile 7 would be fun to play with i think
and saying if you like it so much why don't you buy it is such a stupid thing to say as 1) verizon doesn't have it and 2) when i upgraded to the incredible windows mobile 7 wasn't even out yet
Anyone know if someone is trying to run android on a phone windows 7 (samsung or hd7 Hdt.)
Please would be ideal, Windows Phone has almost no apps, no flash player and also of other faults.
Please I'm a volunteer to test on my phone.
Someone who has the courage to modify.
why? Man, there is an android device on every single carrier at almost all prices. I can understand iOS on android (even though thats not possible)...but there are just so many android devices. I'm sorry, but for this one, I'm just gonna have to say "if you want android, but an android device."
And if you put it in perspective, android on these phones will just be like its android counterpart. A samsung WP7 should perform like the galaxy s phone and an htc device should perform like the Evo or N1. Performance is not that great when compared to WP7 so you'd probably hop right back on WP7. A port wouldnt be as smooth as the original (at first) so it'd be like a double whammy.
stop trolling and buy a fu**in crappy android phone !
Why the hell did you even buy WP7 ??
I'm not sure if you're just trolling or remarkably stupid but either way you're wasting your time.
Please I am not offending anybody to start and secondly then if there is celphones in each company and is not necessary because I modified the HD2 .
Juan Bond said:
Please I am not offending anybody to start and secondly then if there is celphones in each company and is not necessary because I modified the HD2 .
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I can't tell what you are trying to say here so I'm not even going to try and understand it. If you want android get an ANDROID PHONE. For Christ's sake why would you put Android on a WP7 device when the HTC Thunderbolt, Atrix 4G, Inspire 4G, etc just came out? Why not buy one of those?
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Please I am not offending anybody to start and secondly then if there is celphones in each company and is not necessary because I modified the HD2 .
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No one is working on it, no one wants it worked on, if you wanted android you should have bought that cheap laggy garbage.
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Anyone know if someone is trying to run android on a phone windows 7 (samsung or hd7 Hdt.)
Please would be ideal, Windows Phone has almost no apps, no flash player and also of other faults.
Please I'm a volunteer to test on my phone.
Someone who has the courage to modify.
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Here is a proper response:
Which phone do you own? You said HTC HD7 or Samsung.
If you do not own either you are better off buying an HTC Desire HD. It is nearly identical with slightly better hardware and actually is made with Android on it.
If you have a near mint condition Samsung Omnia 7 send me a PM if you want to sell it.
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Anyone know if someone is trying to run android on a phone windows 7 (samsung or hd7 Hdt.)
Please would be ideal, Windows Phone has almost no apps, no flash player and also of other faults.
Please I'm a volunteer to test on my phone.
Someone who has the courage to modify.
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While I'm sure people take your question as trolling, I think it's a semi-legitimate thing to ask on xda. The short answer to your question is no. It's not worth the time and effort to try and port Android to these devices. Android is available on virtually every carrier in some form, and most of them have higher-spec devices available. It would simpler to go buy one of those if you want Android.
-R
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While I'm sure people take your question as trolling, I think it's a semi-legitimate thing to ask on xda. The short answer to your question is no. It's not worth the time and effort to try and port Android to these devices. Android is available on virtually every carrier in some form, and most of them have higher-spec devices available. It would simpler to go buy one of those if you want Android.
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This is the correct answer to the OP's question.
Thread closed.
I'm not a big fan of Bada, having it for a couple of months now.
I'm hoping 2.0 will be better, but by then can another OS be ported to S8500 with less fuss than Android (e.g. WM7, webOS etc.)
you are kidding right??
Android which is open source os couldn't be ported until now (god be with you oleg)
so what do you think about closed operating systems like Windows phone 7 or Web os
please people think before posting
if you don't understand what i mean until now
i'd just say no it is not possible or easy task at all
Ok, meego then
forget it man...android is the best thing we can get into our waves and i am not sure meego is any better in every way. I suggest close this thread
maybe maemo???
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you are kidding right??
Android which is open source os couldn't be ported until now (god be with you oleg)
so what do you think about closed operating systems like Windows phone 7 or Web os
please people think before posting
if you don't understand what i mean until now
i'd just say no it is not possible or easy task at all
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please learn to read and to think
Hold your horses now! He is asking a very valid question. The biggest issue in porting another platform to the S8500 has been the boot loader which is being tackled, once we have a method of booting Android then other OSs especially ones using the Linux kernel (Such as Meego) shouldnt be as big of a task as porting Android is/was.
As for Maemo, Maemo is now Meego so it would be a little stupid to try porting Maemo now wouldn't it
...shouldnt be as big of a task as porting Android...
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You can erase whole OneNAND and make your "own OS".
So you had full Control of your Wave... only JTAG needed.
Bootloader is only 1 problem. All other problems are also BIG enough.
Please. How many handsets you know with more then 1 OS...
Most user can only power on or off their handsets...
So Porting OS to different handsets is NEVER easy.
Only posting funny Questions or funny answers are easy.
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So what? N900 is not Wave
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i know boy, but i would like to have meego or ubuntu in my wave
only posting that its posible
adfree said:
You can erase whole OneNAND and make your "own OS".
So you had full Control of your Wave... only JTAG needed.
Bootloader is only 1 problem. All other problems are also BIG enough.
Please. How many handsets you know with more then 1 OS...
Most user can only power on or off their handsets...
So Porting OS to different handsets is NEVER easy.
Only posting funny Questions or funny answers are easy.
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Sigh.... you seem to have gotten lost in translation. I was not claiming that Android was easy to port, I was Saying that once we have android ported other linux based OSs (such as meego) would be much easi*er* (not easy) to port over. Get it right before making statements like that in future. Also i can name quite a few, most of the WinMo 6 devices are able to boot android, the Galaxy S can boot ubuntu and android and meego, the pre can boot android, Web OS and the openmoko OS, the the HD7 can boot android and WP7, the HD2 can boot WP7 android, meego and WinMo 6.5 and the iPhone can boot iX, Android and IOS...... Shall i continue or shall i just take it my point is proven?
Sigh.... you seem to have gotten lost in translation.
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Maybe.
But easy, easily nor easier can describe any Porting project.
In my opinion:
Heavy, heavier, extreme...
According to Thread title...
Can any other OS be ported to S8500 easily?
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To many users not understand, how much hard work is in porting OS...
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Is there a device that originally was not running Windows Mobile/Phone that got ported to do it?
As far as i know there was some success with the Desire HD having WP7 ported to it, however the Desire HD and the HD7 (Which is a WP7 device) have identical hardware.
sabianadmin said:
As far as i know there was some success with the Desire HD having WP7 ported to it, however the Desire HD and the HD7 (Which is a WP7 device) have identical hardware.
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Exactly what I meant. People should be realistic about the technical feasibility of some projects. The other part is community support - looking at how android porting project (being high demand from users) developed from a single man adventure to next-to-single I really doubt than any other OS would ever be ported to Wave. Anyone with belief of having enough tech know-how is welcome to begin and will receive support (from the few actually doing something) after showing good prognosis, but the chances of that ever happening are rather low.
I'm with sabianadmin on this topic: if oleg managed to create a fully functional linux kernel then why stop there? As ubuntu has ARM port it will be relatively easy to do that... Of course this will be just another toy to tinker with, but why not?
Almost everything can have an ARM port. However, I don't see anybody interested in doing the work volunteering own time for somebody to have a toy.
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?
mijoma said:
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?
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Sure I feel the bigest issue with porting is always the time: everyone has her/his own life, work, family and most of the projects are time consuming... I can't find time to finish my Bada SDK learning rss reader project not to say bigger projects.
mijoma said:
Almost everything can have an ARM port. However, I don't see anybody interested in doing the work volunteering own time for somebody to have a toy.
May we agree that next person to propose porting should be willing to devote own time rather than saying that someone should be able to do it?
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Once you get the linux kernel working and a boot loader booting then it becomes a simple task to get other Linux based OSs running on that device. You can just recycle the kernel from the Android port and thats about 80 percent of the work done. As for non linux based OSs you would have to start from scratch. All of the OSs i mentioned in this thread bar WP7 and WMO run on top of linux. This seems very obvious to me but clearly you fail to see that the difficult task such as building the kernel with the correct hardware support and finding a way to boot and initialize are either done or are being worked on and are close to completion.
sabianadmin said:
This seems very obvious to me but clearly you fail to see that the difficult task such as building the kernel with the correct hardware support and finding a way to boot and initialize are either done or are being worked on and are close to completion.
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No. I fail to see the people eager to do it. I am pretty aware of the status of the android project and feel annoyed at the number of people involved. I wouldn't say it's that close judging from the pace of progress.
Even what most would find impossible is doable with enough effort, so talking about feasibility and complexity of tasks is just a background where human resources with enough tech know-how is still the main subject.