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WM7 on Evo

At the risk of being stoned to death before being shot and hanged while being burned at the stake:
Is anyone working on getting WM7 ported to the Evo?​
I, for one, like the Evo for it's processor, front facing camera, powerful rear camera, 4G connectivity and giant screen.
I don't know android at all yet (and I have nothing against it at all) but I like to keep my options open.
Just to be 100% clear - I am not saying Windows Phone 7 is superior to Android, nor am I asking which one you think is superior or for your evaluations of either OS and their strengths and weaknesses.

That's what the HD2 is for.
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That's what the HD2 is for.
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How does the HD2 help you if you are a Sprint customer (as all Evo owners are)?

bobjase said:
How does the HD2 help you if you are a Sprint customer (as all Evo owners are)?
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That's what tmobile is for

Hell no. Wait for the Mondrian or the several other devices being released with WM7 by companies like HTC and Dell if you want a device like this running that OS. The Evo is an Android phone, and Windows Phone 7 isn't free, open sourced software. Phone manufacturers have to pay for each copy of the software they put on each device, so there's little to no chance of getting it on this phone.

Supposedly the new WP7 HTC phone will have a 1.3Ghz processor. Windows takes up too many resources and the UI is hideous. I can't believe people give it so much praise and we don't even have a working model. The ONLY good thing about WP7 is the xbox live part but we don't even know what that's going to be about. I personally think the UI is hideous.

gqstatus0685 said:
Supposedly the new WP7 HTC phone will have a 1.3Ghz processor. Windows takes up too many resources and the UI is hideous. I can't believe people give it so much praise and we don't even have a working model. The ONLY good thing about WP7 is the xbox live part but we don't even know what that's going to be about. I personally think the UI is hideous.
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I guess you're not a big fan of Scrabble, then?
In all seriousness though, it's a shame they're giving up functionality for aesthetic appeal. What's the point in rearranging artfully arranged sliding squares when I can simply set icons and widgets anywhere on one of my 49 customizable home screens?

It's hideous. Another turn off is that the text in the squares is cut off. I don't want to see CONTAC instead of contacts. I think it's going to fail.

gqstatus0685 said:
It's hideous. Another turn off is that the text in the squares is cut off. I don't want to see CONTAC instead of contacts. I think it's going to fail.
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You don't like cut off words? That's impossible! How could you not like cut off phra-

I think this poll needs an additional "There's a D&D Android app?!" option.

I honestly like the way WM7 looks. The squares work very nicely together, and the way words run past the edges of the screen give it an artistic feel. Anyone familiar with the concepts of graphic design will appreciate the GUI.
The XBL add-on is the major reason I'm excited, I just think it'll be an awesome feature, however they implement it. I'm hoping it'll show which of your friends is online, what games they're playing, and access to your achievements. At the very least
As for being on this phone... it might be neat, but I'd rather get a device designed for WM7. Or flash the HD2.

I just saw the tags on this topic. Lawl.

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You don't like cut off words? That's impossible! How could you not like cut off phra-
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ROFL!!

WM7 is a giant step back in many ways with it's artsy fartsy ui. I'm not sure why they are going this route. It reminds me a little of the pre, all this focus on look zero time spent on function. It's like they are trying to further dumb down the iphone which any 5 year old can use and I'm not sure they are going to impress either crowd.
Xbox live sounds cool until i look at the form factors and realize these are not gaming devices. I may just pick up the rumored psp phone, especially if it runs android or another non totally retarded os simply because at least that is a mobile device I'd enjoy playing games on as it has the proper hardware.

bobjase said:
at the risk of being stoned to death before being shot and hanged while being burned at the stake:
is anyone working on getting wm7 ported to the evo?​
i, for one, like the evo for it's processor, front facing camera, powerful rear camera, 4g connectivity and giant screen.
I don't know android at all yet (and i have nothing against it at all) but i like to keep my options open.
Just to be 100% clear - i am not saying windows phone 7 is superior to android, nor am i asking which one you think is superior or for your evaluations of either os and their strengths and weaknesses.
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no no no no

Aridon said:
WM7 is a giant step back in many ways with it's artsy fartsy ui. I'm not sure why they are going this route. It reminds me a little of the pre, all this focus on look zero time spent on function. It's like they are trying to further dumb down the iphone which any 5 year old can use and I'm not sure they are going to impress either crowd.
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I played a little with a UI theme designed around what's been seen so far, and (at least the theme) it worked pretty well. Contacts slid smoothly, Zune-like, into the screen displaying your contacts, complete with assigned pictures. Of course, it's only assumed that it'll use Zune-esque menus. Either way, I enjoyed the aesthetics and the touch-friendly interface. WM for years has been a highly touchy UI, so it's about time it's moved into a world that has less tolerance for styli. If it continues with something even close to the level of utility WM has now, I'll be a happy man. We'll see how it works on release, I don't really want to praise something I only kind of know about.
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Xbox live sounds cool until i look at the form factors and realize these are not gaming devices. I may just pick up the rumored psp phone, especially if it runs android or another non totally retarded os simply because at least that is a mobile device I'd enjoy playing games on as it has the proper hardware.
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I don't think they're meant to give you the gaming side of XBL, but rather the informational side. I know I like just looking through my friend's list and comparing their played games and achievements to mine, and that's probably all they'll have. I'm sure if mobile gaming kicks off they'll offer Marketplace games for Mobile, later down the road, for phones made with that in mind.

every word i have heard is that the hd2 is not going to be wm7, at any point in time. as i understand it, the hardware architecture is simply incompatible. likewise with any device produced thus far (except the kin, i think, and it's close relative). the best you would get on the hd2 is a type of look-alike port, but without the same functionality.
although, i'm not sure why one would take a perfectly good OS like android and put wm7 on it, other than maybe just to give it a whirl, lol. that being said, i suspect that the architecture on the evo will probably have the same limitation as the hd2.

WM 6.5.x was the pinnacle of WinMo... It had so much potential. WM7 killed it. now its just an webOS/iphone OS... it sucks. WinMo is dead to me. :'(

Of course I'd like to see a port. Now whether or not I will actually use it for anything more than showing off will depend on how good wp7 is and the port... but the more options the better imo

Wm7 on Evo
I have read that a guy found a way to launch either android or windows mobile 3.1 using dos box on an android phone. What about WM7 i don't know. I think on this forum people could accept that there are guys who like android OS and those who like WM7 OS. I personnally would love to have a HTC EVO 4G phone running both OS system . Having that 4G phone running WM7 would be nice for me because there are some ppc softwares that i don't find on android and that can be only run on a Windows mobile 7 phone!! I had the Nexus one and the HTC HD2 and i already sold them. I'd found really amazing to get an EVO 4G running WM7 'cause it would be an exploit and i sure i'm not the only one who want to see that. Plus the HTC EVO 4G will have 8 megapixells compare to the Mondrian and the HD2, the Winmax (4G) and seems much nicer!!! Let's sign a petition of who wish to see that or not and we shall see!!!!

Android 3.0 Beat WP7?

What do you think about it?

well does any knows what's confirmed in android 3.0?
not really..
so how does one compare?

Now WebOS 2.0 is a different story

vetvito said:
Now WebOS 2.0 is a different story
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How so? Does it come on a phone somebody wants to buy?

Release wise or the OS themselves? We'll have to wait until all three get released. As long as they all perform well then it will most likely be all down to personal preferences.

vangrieg said:
How so? Does it come on a phone somebody wants to buy?
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Good point. That's what really holding this OS back, however things may change next year.

To me UI isn't Google's strong suit. Google is good at minimalism, Chrome is a good example. But if it's anything more intricate & complicated then Google's UIs become less intuitive. Google Buzz, Wave, even youtube and google.com itself can be an utter disaster at times. I don't have experience with G-Mail or Orkut to comment.
Only recently has MS start providing better UI expeirences. Aero, MS Ribbons (highly debated but I like that it's touch friendly), Zune/MS Games UIs, Metro. The Entertainment Division does seem to be leading the way in terms of cutting edge UIs. But they're ahead of Google in that department.
I won't say it's impossible for Google to make a cutting edge UI, I'm sure they have alot of talent in that area, I just haven't seen it translated into a product line yet.
Edit: I assume this is a UI & integration discussion, because in terms of raw features Android already beats wp7.

gom99 said:
To me UI isn't Google's strong suit. Google is good at minimalism, Chrome is a good example. But if it's anything more intricate & complicated then Google's UIs become less intuitive. Google Buzz, Wave, even youtube and google.com itself can be an utter disaster at times. I don't have experience with G-Mail or Orkut to comment.
Only recently has MS start providing better UI expeirences. Aero, MS Ribbons (highly debated but I like that it's touch friendly), Zune/MS Games UIs, Metro. The Entertainment Division does seem to be leading the way in terms of cutting edge UIs. But they're ahead of Google in that department.
I won't say it's impossible for Google to make a cutting edge UI, I'm sure they have alot of talent in that area, I just haven't seen it translated into a product line yet.
Edit: I assume this is a UI & integration discussion, because in terms of raw features Android already beats wp7.
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They're hired the WebOS designers (after they left Palm following the takeover by HP) so presumably they will front the UI design.

i really don't get people saying Android 3.0 is going to be better than anything on the market. Well show me how it interacts, what changed, did UI get better? Just do not hope it will be, show us soem proof. I can't find anywhere that shows 3.0. To my understanding, 3.0 is just an updated version that will be suitable for tablets.

^ No proof of anything right now for 3.0. You can find tablets running every version of Android. The Samsung Galaxy Tab looks nice.

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i really don't get people saying Android 3.0 is going to be better than anything on the market. Well show me how it interacts, what changed, did UI get better? Just do not hope it will be, show us soem proof. I can't find anywhere that shows 3.0. To my understanding, 3.0 is just an updated version that will be suitable for tablets.
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And probably incompatible with current handsets. Not too long ago people were drooling over the Hero, legend, moment but lets see if those devices get the latest android OS. No thanks, I've been held hostage by HTC long enough, dont want my device obsolete right after it leaves the factory.

vetvito said:
^ No proof of anything right now for 3.0. You can find tablets running every version of Android. The Samsung Galaxy Tab looks nice.
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I'm starting to see reports that Gingerbread isn't even 3.0 as most of us assumed. It's saying that Gingerbread is another 2.x, and HoneyComb will be the 3.0. It's still all hearsay though.
btw...who exactly is the one with a sweet-tooth at google?

I can't wait to see both Win Phone 7 and Gingerbread completed.

Mobile operating systems are so diverse, complex and multifaceted these days that you just cannot say one "beats" the other. It all depends on personal preferences and requirements.

FreeDee said:
Mobile operating systems are so diverse, complex and multifaceted these days that you just cannot say one "beats" the other. It all depends on personal preferences and requirements.
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This thread will beat others?
Why everything has to be competition?
What is better?
What is faster?
Both OS will have it´s good points and bad as well, it will be just matter of preferences like all in life

Nobody knows what Android 3.0 will be.
But Android 2.1 is better than WP7 and probably Android 3.0 will be better than Android 2.1 - so Android 3.0 will be better than WP7, definitely.

Fermat said:
Nobody knows what Android 3.0 will be.
But Android 2.1 is better than WP7 and probably Android 3.0 will be better than Android 2.1 - so Android 3.0 will be better than WP7, definitely.
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It's hard to say that. Besides, bring some facts/arguments why you think it's better.
a FACT is that Silverlight/XNA development is better than Java devolpment. The majority of the developers will agree with me, because of several different reasons. Examples of these reasons are the efficiency of the language, options to port the code and the software used (Visual Studio simply is great).
Another FACT is that WP7 will not suffer from fragmentation like the old WM or like what's happening to android now.
The UI is 100% personal preference, but after using the emulator, seeing demos, and using android phones myself (hero with custom ROM, Desire) I prefer WP7 by far.
Can't say anything useful about battery life until we've got some retail models launched, but I think MS has spent a great deal optimising that as its important for the user experience.
Last but not least, the integration with the OS is excellent on WP7 - acces to Bing Maps, the phone's theme, the zune hub and more just adds a LOT of possibilities. You gotta admit its really sweet how you can instantly access all your imaging-apps (like failmakers/captioning, color effects, etc) directly when you're viewing a picture.
As you might've noticed by my post, I'm way more interested in WP7 than android right now.

The facts/arguments are spread all over this forum, no need to start this discussion again.
WP7 does have some nice things, like the beautiful (IMO) UI, but all in all, Android 2.1 is far superior.
(fragmentation doesn't hurt anyone, btw. - it only gives iPhone/WP7 fanboys something to talk about when they can't find better arguments against Android)
Oh and btw. I prefer Silverlight over Java. It's much better. In theory that is, because in the case of WP7, it's crippled by stupid restrictions.
The fact that you mention integration with the OS tells me that you don't know much about Android. It offers much more possibilities and deeper integration than WP7. Microsoft is talking about integration all the time, but that doesn't change the fact that it's been done before and much better by Google.
(yes, all the stuff like direct access to imaging apps is there and much more)

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Oh and btw. I prefer Silverlight over Java. It's much better. In theory that is, because in the case of WP7, it's crippled by stupid restrictions.
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It restricts stupid? That seems like is should be a good thing. Does Android allow / embrace stupid then?

Is it feasible to port windows phone 7 to the g2

Topic.
Only reason I ask is because I'm the type that gets bored with phones easily so I'm looking to switch it up a bit. That, and I like the Zune features..

How would you port it with no source code ?

WHY would you want to pollute a GOOD phone with that TRASH???!?!?

dhkr123 said:
WHY would you want to pollute a GOOD phone with that TRASH???!?!?
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For the reasons I mentioned above.

WHAT??
I agree, Windows is pure garbage! That's still not reason enough 2 port windows.

greengoldmello said:
For the reasons I mentioned above.
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If you get bored with Android, its OPEN SOURCE!!! Start coding/hacking.
Coding is exciting. Way more fun than dumpster diving.
And its even LEGAL.

If you really are bored with the phone, then sell it and buy a WP7 phone. You'll probably come back to Android once you see all the things that are currently missing from WP7.

I think it'd be cool to dual boot instead of having to go out and purchase a whole new phone. For now the closest we've got it Windows 3.1 over aDoxBox ... rofl!

Do a search for the dual boot threads, and find a WP7 dev willing to leak source. Still don't understand how anything about this phone and it's dev community can be boring.

[Q] Can Windows phone 7 be put on the original Evo?

I really want a Windows 7 phone but I don't want to abandon Android altogether. I was wondering if I could flash WP7 on my Evo and tinker around with it?

There is a Windows Phone 7 project somewhere within EVO general
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tropicalbrit said:
There is a Windows Phone 7 project somewhere within EVO general
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Any link??

Search
Deck's + SZ + SuperCharger script + ViperMod script.

There's always the "Windows phone Android" launcher on the market if you just wanna dabble without doing too much modding to your phone.
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There's always the "Windows phone Android" launcher on the market if you just wanna dabble without doing too much modding to your phone.
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No thanks, I want to use an actual, fully functional version of Windows Phone on my Evo.

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No thanks, I want to use an actual, fully functional version of Windows Phone on my Evo.
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I'm pretty sure it was abandoned awhile ago. Sorry
free the dirk

Just keep android... WP7 isn't that great anyway. Android is way more powerful and easy to use and a WP7 port wouldn't be fully functional anyway.

nickelghandi said:
Just keep android... WP7 isn't that great anyway. Android is way more powerful and easy to use and a WP7 port wouldn't be fully functional anyway.
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Why would you come in here and tell him, "Just keep Android. Don't worry about WP7." If he's like any tech enthusiast, he probably likes to tinker and just experience other operating systems and setup just for the sake of experiencing them. Hell, I do this all the time with computer operating systems.
If he wants to try out WP7, let him try out WP7. Don't tell him, "Just keep Android."

UndeadCircus said:
Why would you come in here and tell him, "Just keep Android. Don't worry about WP7." If he's like any tech enthusiast, he probably likes to tinker and just experience other operating systems and setup just for the sake of experiencing them. Hell, I do this all the time with computer operating systems.
If he wants to try out WP7, let him try out WP7. Don't tell him, "Just keep Android."
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Well Put, #CoSign

Just like you stated your opinion, I am free to state mine. Personally, I like android. I like the custom ROMs available and I use them. As someone who came from WindowsPhone to Android I would not want to go back. I didn't mean to sound like I was against tinkering, it was simply my opinion on that specific subject. If they want to port it then fine lol. I won't try and stop them.
Here is the link to one of the themes available anyway:
https://market.android.com/details?id=info.tikuwarez.launcher3&feature
Here are a couple of threads that were for a WP7 Port:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1214061
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813184
And that is probably as far as it will go.

I do love to tinker and I really think I'd like a windows phone, I just don't want to buy one without playing with it for a week or so to make sure it's a worthy purchase. Perhaps I'll just wait til my contract is up and try a windows phone for 30 days...

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I do love to tinker and I really think I'd like a windows phone, I just don't want to buy one without playing with it for a week or so to make sure it's a worthy purchase. Perhaps I'll just wait til my contract is up and try a windows phone for 30 days...
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I know a few people that have WP7 Devices and they seem pretty satisfied with them as far as functionality. The OS is closed source though so there isn't much in the way of tinkering. At least not legally. I like the open source code of Android although that is getting too controlled now also by companies like HTC that don't want to allow redistribution of their software. Anyway check out the links I posted in my last comment. The theme from the market is kind of dumb but the other threads I've linked to may be of some help because even though they're old threads some posts in them point to other places where development may be going on currently. I hope I have been more helpful with this post and the one before this than with my first one lol.

Windows Mobile 7 on Samsung Galaxy SII T-989

Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.

Would be cool to dual boot like the HD2 days. But TBH Sui, we barely have any devs for anroid let alone start a whole new can of worms with WP7. Like the idea though.... +1

Wp7 doesn't support multiple cores.
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Wp7 doesn't support multiple cores.
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Except for, you know, the already released dual-core WP7 phones.

Good Point Kallkti, but soon it will. I was at a mircosoft event and we will see an update in a few months to support it. In theory couldnt we just use one core like ....idk the original froyo/GB code, and keep the second core sleeping. I never wrote kernel code im only asking

lol we dont even have a working CM7 or Miui...yet you want this?! i dont think it'll ever happen

GS2 doesn't meet hardware requirements for 6 hardware buttons and who knows what else, but seems to me if someone wants a WM7 phone, you get one.
Another thought - get an HTC HD2 - ROMs available for WM 6.5, 7 and just about every flavor of android available. A little slow (1 GHz) but satisfies all other requests.

I think it'd be awesome, been thinking about this myself. Probably damn difficult if not impossible to do at this point.
My girlfriend has a Samsung focus and it's pretty sweet. I find myself getting jealous over her phone at times especially with the zune pass lol.
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Sui Generis said:
Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
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Why would you ruin a perfectly good phone and turn it into an unstable brick?

The question is not who dares. But why? Lol
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They have not released any dual core wp7 phones.

Windows Phone 7 will never work unless Microsoft makes it open source. The Hd2 was lucky only because the Hd7 has the same exact internals and even that phone doesn't run Windows flawlessly.
Its like trying to put iOS or RIM's software on the GSII. It will never work and if you are lucky to get it to boot it will be extremely buggy!!!!
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I just don't understand why you would want that OS on such an amazing piece of hardware. WM7 in my opinion is just too limited in the things you can do, hence the reason why people including myself rid of 6.5 from their HD2's.

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What windowsphone7 phones have you seen with dual cores? Even the top of the line phones are single core be ause the OS doesn't support it yet.
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wp7 runs extremely smooth and looks very nice. i don't know why this phone has no cool stuff, we have a bunch of competent developers, even cyanogen is working on this phone. i'm hoping that in the next 3 months development will explode for this phone.

like stated before if we can't even get a stable version of cm7 or miui we are deff not getting this here....... lol

If it's looks you want there might be a launcher theme out there you could try
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Sui Generis said:
Who dares?
I own a Samsung Galaxy SII T-989 and, because I come from the "Windows" side rather than Linux or Apple, I would like to be able to completely wipe out the Gingerbred ROM that came with the phone and install a "cooked" ROM based on Windows Mobile 7 or, at least Windows Mobile 6.5.
I am hoping that, all those great developers connected to this site and spending so much time on cooking roms and rooting android phones, maybe one day they would look into this project that will become, I am sure, the greatest challenge, the pinnacle of all great things ever accomplished and recorded on this amazing forum.
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i still have my hd2. its cool as hell but i never used wm6-7. why because it sucks-hard. why would you want that? Oh if you like wm and like your phone, download a wm7 launcher. i think thats going to be the most development youll see.

Charlie Brown said:
The question is not who dares. But why? Lol
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Windows Phone 7.5 is a better OS than Android. Does it have as much developer support? No. But speaking strictly of the OS itself, it's much more efficient, handles battery life much better, is smoother out of the box. It just needs more love from software developers.
That said, what the OP is suggesting is never going to happen. Least of all on the Hercules/T989

OriginalMemnock said:
Windows Phone 7.5 is a better OS than Android. Does it have as much developer support? No. But speaking strictly of the OS itself, it's much more efficient, handles battery life much better, is smoother out of the box. It just needs more love from software developers.
That said, what the OP is suggesting is never going to happen. Least of all on the Hercules/T989
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Ya saying Windows phone anything is better than android is just straight up garbage sorry. If that was the case it wouldn't have 1% marketshare while the richest company in the world is marketing and pushing it.
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