ive been wondering this for a while, ever seeing the 2d test in quadrant run slowly(to my eyes, at least) that whether or not this phone or the qualcomm chip has some issues with rendering stuff in 2d
as can be seen in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ24BCfW3yw
both of the phones using the qualcomm chip doesnt even hit 30fps in 2d tests while the i9100 seem to hit 60 and gets capped there
i wonder if this is a driver issue or hardware issue, since not just our gs2 have this issue, but also the amaze, sensation and several other phones..
edit: here is the tmo gs2 vs sensation, same issue can be seen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6sPTcFpAc
all 3 of these phones share a similar snapdragon processor, and the crappy 2d issue seems to spread around(in certain games downloaded off the market)
not sure if anyone is even interested in this topic. but for my own fun i went on youtube and looked up the xiaomi m1(uses similar processor) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKOZKcA3VlY
seems like their phone doesnt have this issue
anyone have any insight to this?
Doesn't happened on the Skyrocket.
Faux has used the MDP drivers, that were apparently causing the lag, from the skyrocket, and ported them to the T-Mo SGS II.
From what I hear, it's fixed the lag.
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Doesn't happened on the Skyrocket.
Faux has used the MDP drivers, that were apparently causing the lag, from the skyrocket, and ported them to the T-Mo SGS II.
From what I hear, it's fixed the lag.
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im using the faux kernel, i get the same results
just give quadrant a try on the skyrocket, you'll see the 2d benchmark and it's fps not even hitting 30
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMYMQZDoWHw
quadrant is the only thing i see that provides a 2d benchmark with fps on the bottom, and 2d stuff does seem fairly slow on our phone.
If you're not using beta kernel then your going to get lackluster results there is no lag stuttering in his kernel at all. Quadrant is not even a really good test at all. To test 2d. You need to keep in mind also that smp are vastly different from Asmp.
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adding to my post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMYMQZDoWHw
quadrant is the only thing i see that provides a 2d benchmark with fps on the bottom, and 2d stuff does seem fairly slow on our phone.
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Oh, Quadrant's 2D is bull****.
1. It's not made for the Adreno 220.
2. It doesn't make the GPU ramp up under load, so the GPU sits at whatever idle speeds are.
I forget what the app is called that really tests 2D, but I know passmark has a 2D test in their app, and I just did the test, and it did WELL over 50 FPS.
Quadrant is so outdated that I'm not sure why anyone puts stock in anything that piece of old junk says.
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Yeah i think Quadrant is a placebo enhancer. If a phone visually runs good ( I say visually because there is no doubt the hardware is physically capable of anything we throw at it,) then i could care less what number a program gives it...
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If you're not using beta kernel then your going to get lackluster results there is no lag stuttering in his kernel at all. Quadrant is not even a really good test at all. To test 2d. You need to keep in mind also that smp are vastly different from Asmp.
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im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.
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im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.
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My single core mytouch 4g can score 5000 in quadrant. So yeah. Try using a test like fps2d. From the looks of the little hardware information I can get out of it. This processor was optimized strictly for 3d performance. So any home that can use purely 3d should be considerably better performance.
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im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.
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Edit: Never mind I was wrong.
+1 for fps2d. I was going to suggest that for testing. Or antutu
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Hey I just got my gs2 had a g2x quadrant means nothing my g2x score way higher but gs2 works better
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corwest said:
Yeah i think Quadrant is a placebo enhancer. If a phone visually runs good ( I say visually because there is no doubt the hardware is physically capable of anything we throw at it,) then i could care less what number a program gives it...
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100% agree. Benchmarks do not equal real world use.
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Any idea? Most reviews i saw for the GNex shows it getting 1700-2000+.
Meaningless or not, i wanna know why it's so much less.
Wtf
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Any idea? Most reviews i saw for the GNex shows it getting 1700-2000+.
Meaningless or not, i wanna know why it's so much less.
Wtf
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I checked it right when I got the phone for the hell of it and got around the same number. The only thing I care about is if it will lag with daily use. If it doesn't I don't care if it has half a core and 1 byte of ram.
Quadrant scores are meaningless and don't give any indication of how the phone performs in real world use.
My old Galaxy S2 scored 4000+ in quadrant but does it feel 3 times faster than my Nexus definitely no!
Again, I don't care about what the test actually means but why are our scores so much lower on the same device compared to the reviews show? What is different and why? It leads me to believe that something is wrong.
I freaked too, but I think its bs. If you install System Monitor you can watch both CPU cores in action. Also, other bench tests clearly show that you're getting dual core performance. I think Quadrant will need an update.
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Again, I don't care about what the test actually means but why are our scores so much lower on the same device compared to the reviews show? What is different and why? It leads me to believe that something is wrong.
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I get around 1400+ as well in quadrant and I don't think there is anything wrong as when I first got my GS2 my scores where lower than what was seen online from reviewers as well.
Don't forget they probably had a phone with no extra apps on it or just the bare minimum which could also affect the scores.
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I get around 1400+ as well in quadrant and I don't think there is anything wrong as when I first got my GS2 my scores where lower than what was seen online from reviewers as well.
Don't forget they probably had a phone with no extra apps on it or just the bare minimum which could also affect the scores.
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I got a 1700 reading from quadrant. I don't know if quadrant takes advantage of the dualcore cpu?
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Herman76 said:
I got a 1700 reading from quadrant. I don't know if quadrant takes advantage of the dualcore cpu?
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I think it doesn't and it needs a desperate update anyway to fully support ICS.
Someone correct me if I am wrong about quadrant standard not seeing both cores?
It's the higher resolution mainly.
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My benchmark scores are horrible. My girlfriends mytouch 4g slide continually scores better. Just doesnt seem right for this flagship phone. Anybody else?
Benchmarks means nothing.
If you're using Quadrant Standard, you're basing it off a benchmark designed for single core CPUs and hasn't been updated for months. Not to mention, it is not optimized for ICS or multi-core CPUs.
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My benchmark scores are horrible. My girlfriends mytouch 4g slide continually scores better. Just doesnt seem right for this flagship phone. Anybody else?
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And which benchmark app is that?
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Yes i was using quadrant. Thanks for the info!
jjzah said:
Yes i was using quadrant. Thanks for the info!
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Try using,
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUuQUJlbmNoTWFyayJd
https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5jZmJlbmNoIl0.
Those benchmarks are optimized for multi-core devices. Unsure about ICS but it should provide a better comparison. And benchmarks don't mean anything (once again!)
Not really sure why you thanked him because he didn't offer any credibility towards answering your question, but ok -_-
Hi,
What benchmarks?
In what conditions (i mean if you run benchs in charge+10 benchs the one after the other->overheating->thermal protection->decrease cpu freq->lowers score/very low RAM/rogue/etc...)?
Rom?
Kernel?
Scores (especially in what benchs)?
And the most important is that your phone works perfectly?
Indeed,the benchs are sometimes subjective...
I agree Quadrant is out of age
The must is Antutu (bench "multiple things"),Cf Bench also but sometimes very inaccurate...,only certain benchs testing the cpu,others only the gpu (fps 2d/3d for example)and the other yet another cpu + gpu...
Screenshot of your benchs?
Much more detail would be welcome
zephiK said:
Try using,
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUuQUJlbmNoTWFyayJd
https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5jZmJlbmNoIl0.
Those benchmarks are optimized for multi-core devices. Unsure about ICS but it should provide a better comparison. And benchmarks don't mean anything (once again!)
Not really sure why you thanked him because he didn't offer any credibility towards answering your question, but ok -_-
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Maybe he discovered a different benchmark tool which favored him more after my comment
Thank you for compensation ;-)
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Okay, so the other day, i ran quadrant on my gs2 against my brohters gs4g and i got 3259 and my brother got 938. I tried again today, and i got 1208 and the gs4g got 1190. i ran the test seversl times and the same result, nothing more than 1300. I didn't change anything from the first time i ran the test, so is my phone messed up? I know most people don't really like quadrant, but i use it because it kind of gives me peace of mind knowing my phone is better thssn everyone else's
Don't worry about it. It really doesnt matter.
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Reboot your phone then wait for about 30 seconds while everything settles (dont run any other apps) then run quadrant. What score did you get this time?
I tried the reboot thing after the first low score and pretty much the same score
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kkg720 said:
I tried the reboot thing after the first low score and pretty much the same score
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I would just throw it out the window bro.......thats too low to be in hand.
KillaHurtz said:
I would just throw it out the window bro.......thats too low to be in hand.
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Hilarious man
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kkg720 said:
Okay, so the other day, i ran quadrant on my gs2 against my brohters gs4g and i got 3259 and my brother got 938. I tried again today, and i got 1208 and the gs4g got 1190. i ran the test seversl times and the same result, nothing more than 1300. I didn't change anything from the first time i ran the test, so is my phone messed up? I know most people don't really like quadrant, but i use it because it kind of gives me peace of mind knowing my phone is better thssn everyone else's
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Quadrant doesnt go well with Dual Core Snapdragon Processors. I've been getting 2000 each time a ran it. Try ANTUTU Benchmark and see what you get.
Quandrant doesnt define a phone of how great your phone is.
Or CF bench works well!
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Quadrant is a horribly outdated benchmark, don't rely on it ever.
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iExpliziT said:
Quadrant doesnt go well with Dual Core Snapdragon Processors. I've been getting 2000 each time a ran it. Try ANTUTU Benchmark and see what you get.
Quandrant doesnt define a phone of how great your phone is.
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I'll take what AnTuTu Benchmark gave me.. Listed me at 6327... Just over the Nexus ;-)
Main thing that brought me down as my stupid SD card because I have some generic piece of junk --- EDIT: Just ran it against the internal SD, and I got 6577. Even above the Galaxy Note ;-)
I know that quadrant is not optimized for dual core, but that doesnt explain why i was getting 3000+ and it just dropped to less than 1000
Btw antutu was 6492 idk if thats good or bad so...
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Freeze Google maps with titanium back up and see what u get ...
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maek_it_happen said:
Freeze Google maps with titanium back up and see what u get ...
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Maps is really that big of a culprit?
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These threads get so old. Does everything work on your phone? Is it smooth and responsive? Then who cares what some outdated benchmark says. You are the benchmark.
I changed the rom on my friend's mytouch 4g and he scored 3246 on miui oc to 1.6 ghz lagfree, It beat my gs2 running zombie oc to 1.72 ghz lagfree 2976 i dont think quadrant is an accurate benchmark at all, so markus is right, YOU are the benchmark.
this is just for those who wish to see a bit more snappyness in your ics....
First i have no idea if this will work on all roms, but im using the PHANTOM rom ( 4.0.4 ) and using the tergat paid version.. im using the kernal that came cooked into the rom....
i just loaded the overclock module, and set it to 1.54Ghz.. i did not change the voltages at all..
doing this i saw an increase in about +200 points testing with antutu benchmark...
im advance i apologize for wasting fourm space but just figured since i havent seen anything on overclocking ics yet, id just show how i did it..
just something to tinker with..
There are threads and this has been discussed before. Thanks for trying though.
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of course.... always a thread mixed within the 1000s out there.
one thing i noticed is on the antutu it shows where people have post thier results... how on earth are some of them overclocking to 1.9ghz and 1.75hz.. scoring soooooo high?! for example im at 1.452ghz scoring say 7200-7300 and some are at 1.452 scoring 12000-15000... seems kinda high to me...
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of course.... always a thread mixed within the 1000s out there.
one thing i noticed is on the antutu it shows where people have post thier results... how on earth are some of them overclocking to 1.9ghz and 1.75hz.. scoring soooooo high?! for example im at 1.452ghz scoring say 7200-7300 and some are at 1.452 scoring 12000-15000... seems kinda high to me...
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Lets just say they are ways to cheat the benchmark test. I never did and not sure exactly how to but I know I have seen people talking about it.
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Lets just say they are ways to cheat the benchmark test. I never did and not sure exactly how to but I know I have seen people talking about it.
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I've never understood why someone would want to fake a already meaningless benchmark number. It screams I'm over compensating
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i agree..i was just wanting to overclock. little to sed if it would make some of the ics Roms any snappier.. Alot of Ics is being released on quad core phones and phones with slightly snapier processors.. but i thought taking my 1.2ghz to say 1.4ghZ would polish the speeds of ics on my phone.. well and it does!! just gotta use tegrak..
seems like 1.452 is the best.. im not good on messing with voltages so i stay away from too much change. seems lime @ 1.4 i get a 200-400 point increase, but at 1.6ghz it seems to decrease 200-250points and 1.7ghz locks up 1/2 way through the benchmark..
got me.. i just like tinkering around with it... i tried it on calkulins El29 rom and holy **** it screams!!!
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i agree..i was just wanting to overclock. little to sed if it would make some of the ics Roms any snappier.. Alot of Ics is being released on quad core phones and phones with slightly snapier processors.. but i thought taking my 1.2ghz to say 1.4ghZ would polish the speeds of ics on my phone.. well and it does!! just gotta use tegrak..
seems like 1.452 is the best.. im not good on messing with voltages so i stay away from too much change. seems lime @ 1.4 i get a 200-400 point increase, but at 1.6ghz it seems to decrease 200-250points and 1.7ghz locks up 1/2 way through the benchmark..
got me.. i just like tinkering around with it... i tried it on calkulins El29 rom and holy **** it screams!!!
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Keep in mind that most of the newer phones being released in the US are still dual core. I believe the reason for this is for the LTE support. And even single core phones can run ICS without much of a hickup so I wouldnt worry too much about overclocking just to gain some performance in ICS. The devs are working hard to tune it up. Just follow Phantoms thread. And I am sure once we get the official release and/or source drops we will see even greater performance tweaks done to ICS for our phone. Its just a time game....
Hey I was wondering, does my processor take breaking in? I just returned my other s3 because of defects but with this completely new one the quadrant scores and antutu scores are very low.. only like 3300 on quadrant and something low on antutu also.
The average stock benchmark scores are around 4800 and 6800 in antutu. So will my phone start breaking in and speeding up?
Those benchmarks mean nothing
As long as the phone feels smooth ignore benchmarks
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True but I'd like it to run like everyone else's...
Honestly it's just a matter of feeling like your on the top of the food chain =p and for the record, after afew hours of getting my processor warmed up and kicked in, my scores jumped way up
I don't need benchmark scores to know I'm better than every one else
Being stuck up is great
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So how exactally are u better than everyone else?
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Squirt oil in all phone openings... That'll make it slick as whale poo....
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ReapersDeath said:
Hey I was wondering, does my processor take breaking in? I just returned my other s3 because of defects but with this completely new one the quadrant scores and antutu scores are very low.. only like 3300 on quadrant and something low on antutu also.
The average stock benchmark scores are around 4800 and 6800 in antutu. So will my phone start breaking in and speeding up?
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Not to be rude. So sorry if this comes off all flame-Ish but you do realize that a CPU is made out of soi transistors those don't hold state if anything the heat slowly changes the resistance in negative ways over 1000s of hours of use leads to heat increase and eventual failure over a very long time line well that's how it goes in x86 computing only if stuff gets hot though. If it stays below 100Ish you don't see the heat increase part.
No seriously though Linux uses a cache so does dalvik and beyond that Android also uses a cache so benchmarks being subjective aside yes it takes a bit.
Just remember benchmarks are there to test changes and compare hardware. On Android....really Linux in general its almost impossible to compare hardware sometimes. The difference are not something that translates and. All of Android operates through a vm pretty much. ..
So your stuck back at comparison .using them to create a applicable baseline for say ....those tweaks you make in setcpu or maybe that shiny new kernel you flash vs the last version.
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Those benchmarks mean nothing
As long as the phone feels smooth ignore benchmarks
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I'm totally not with him though. If you are altering settings in your phone like cache stuff. You want to quantify the effects of the changes any way you can not that linpack our antutu or that complete piece of garbage quadrant are the defacto meter for that
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freecharlesmanson said:
Not to be rude. So sorry if this comes off all flame-Ish but you do realize that a CPU is made out of soi transistors those don't hold state if anything the heat slowly changes the resistance in negative ways over 1000s of hours of use leads to heat increase and eventual failure over a very long time line well that's how it goes in x86 computing only if stuff gets hot though. If it stays below 100Ish you don't see the heat increase part.
No seriously though Linux uses a cache so does dalvik and beyond that Android also uses a cache so benchmarks being subjective aside yes it takes a bit.
Just remember benchmarks are there to test changes and compare hardware. On Android....really Linux in general its almost impossible to compare hardware sometimes. The difference are not something that translates and. All of Android operates through a vm pretty much. ..
So your stuck back at comparison .using them to create a applicable baseline for say ....those tweaks you make in setcpu or maybe that shiny new kernel you flash vs the last version.
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I'm totally not with him though. If you are altering settings in your phone like cache stuff. You want to quantify the effects of the changes any way you can not that linpack our antutu or that complete piece of garbage quadrant are the defacto meter for that
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I don't understand how I go from 3800 in quadrant to 5089 after a few hours of nothing but stock lol.. then 4200 antutu to 6867.. but it goes up and down a little. I like to think processors are getting more advanced and are becoming aware lol. Turning into brains. Give it 5 years and hardware for phones will be so good we can play wow on them and then later on s voice will have a real personality and be living XD she will shock you for even thinking about looking at an iPhone or HTC =p. I know I'm sleep typing or something and that this is all random XD
Could it be possible that your phone was busy building cache files ? If you get quadrant pro it give you a breakdown of each score if you notice your I/o score is low then the filesystem is busy doing god knows what .
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Buddy a15 arch power savings aside isn't that stellar AMD is the only one talking innovation in cpus. Trust me you will be looking through your cellphone soon not at looking at it