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High Quadrant Scores like 2500+

Are we ever going to see quadrant scores like the hd2 is getting now ugh!!
A new rom has been imported to the hd2 that has it at 2800 quadrant score evo is better hardware and still at 1100-1500 whyyyy????
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Lol.
What is the benchmark going to do for you?

garekinokami said:
What is the benchmark going to do for you?
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Then what does it mean and why does it even exist?

Where can I download this at

If you really want it, you can get CM6.0 here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/files/category/12-htc-evo/
and Snap 7.6 with Turbo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733099
The current Snap only works with CM6.0 though which is a few versions behind, so you might as well wait though.

So the kernel is not universally compatible???

poulosjr said:
So the kernel is not universally compatible???
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he did clearly say that it was only compatible with cm 6.0
no it is not universally compatible
the benchmark doesn't do anything for you anyway

Quadrant scores are a joke and easily manipulated, just look at CM6 with Snap Turbo. 2800 was my highest quadrant on it and speed was identical to all other roms.

Benchmark..Schmenchmark.....

The reason were all here is to improve the performance and functionality of our devices isn't it?? These scores are posted by every reviewer, manufacturers are giving us more powerful processors with each new device. Kernels and overclock tools are a staple in the dev community. How are these benchmarks not important? Sure they may not reflect the overall performance of the device in every case but if everyone viewed benchmark scores as useless data where would we be?? Not here trying to improve on them

DirtyShroomz said:
Quadrant scores are a joke and easily manipulated, just look at CM6 with Snap Turbo. 2800 was my highest quadrant on it and speed was identical to all other roms.
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This. Even Cyanogen stated that the quadrant scores are fudged. I read his post somewhere, it had something to do with cheating on the I/O portion of the test.
My EVO with MIUI gets around 1750 and performs as good or better than when I was scoring 2600+ with cm6 and snap turbo.

what is Quadrant really for??

Okay I have been using the quadrant and been hearing about it with ROMs. I have had Quadrant scores range from 1000 to about 2500 so what does this really mean exactly? My reason for asking is I came from a custom ROM where my quadrant scores were close to 2200 all the time. Then I flashed the stock Ec05 ROM and my scores are in the low 1000. BUT.....I do not see any speed difference with either ROMs. I think the stock one is a little more stable and just as fast as the custom one I was on where my quadrant scores were sky high. Can someone please explain to me why exactly one would use the quadrant score for??

Quadrant is VERY inaccurate
and is just a measure of people's E-penis

iSaint said:
Quadrant is VERY inaccurate
and is just a measure of people's E-penis
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LOL..That was funny. I would just hate to give up the stock ROM because it is so stable and (fast enough) to have a custom ROM with issues and a high quadrant score. I honestly think I will be sticking with the stock ROM. I hope somebody will be kind enough to make some kernals or themes to work with it. If not oh well. Stability over quadrant score for me.

iSaint said:
Quadrant is VERY inaccurate
and is just a measure of people's E-penis
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I came here to post exactly this.
Get Quadrant Advanced to see exactly why it's BS - it's all IO scores, especially on some ROMs that use a little DB trick (no offense, if you guys still use it ) - then switch to Smartbench. Smartbench is a much more accurate measure, and the dev has actively reached out to Epic users in testing his latest version.

I was wondering about this myself. Think I'm going to check out Smartbench. Thanks k0nane for the tip and that awesome rom of yours

WORDMAN713 said:
I was wondering about this myself. Think I'm going to check out Smartbench. Thanks k0nane for the tip and that awesome rom of yours
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Thanks for your support! Keep in mind 2010 is designed for single-core phones, and 2011 for dual-core.

Why are my Quadrant tests getting around 1400??

Any idea? Most reviews i saw for the GNex shows it getting 1700-2000+.
Meaningless or not, i wanna know why it's so much less.
Wtf

just4747 said:
Any idea? Most reviews i saw for the GNex shows it getting 1700-2000+.
Meaningless or not, i wanna know why it's so much less.
Wtf
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I checked it right when I got the phone for the hell of it and got around the same number. The only thing I care about is if it will lag with daily use. If it doesn't I don't care if it has half a core and 1 byte of ram.

Quadrant scores are meaningless and don't give any indication of how the phone performs in real world use.
My old Galaxy S2 scored 4000+ in quadrant but does it feel 3 times faster than my Nexus definitely no!

Again, I don't care about what the test actually means but why are our scores so much lower on the same device compared to the reviews show? What is different and why? It leads me to believe that something is wrong.

I freaked too, but I think its bs. If you install System Monitor you can watch both CPU cores in action. Also, other bench tests clearly show that you're getting dual core performance. I think Quadrant will need an update.

just4747 said:
Again, I don't care about what the test actually means but why are our scores so much lower on the same device compared to the reviews show? What is different and why? It leads me to believe that something is wrong.
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I get around 1400+ as well in quadrant and I don't think there is anything wrong as when I first got my GS2 my scores where lower than what was seen online from reviewers as well.
Don't forget they probably had a phone with no extra apps on it or just the bare minimum which could also affect the scores.

daleski75 said:
I get around 1400+ as well in quadrant and I don't think there is anything wrong as when I first got my GS2 my scores where lower than what was seen online from reviewers as well.
Don't forget they probably had a phone with no extra apps on it or just the bare minimum which could also affect the scores.
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I got a 1700 reading from quadrant. I don't know if quadrant takes advantage of the dualcore cpu?
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Herman76 said:
I got a 1700 reading from quadrant. I don't know if quadrant takes advantage of the dualcore cpu?
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I think it doesn't and it needs a desperate update anyway to fully support ICS.
Someone correct me if I am wrong about quadrant standard not seeing both cores?

It's the higher resolution mainly.
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crappy 2d performance

ive been wondering this for a while, ever seeing the 2d test in quadrant run slowly(to my eyes, at least) that whether or not this phone or the qualcomm chip has some issues with rendering stuff in 2d
as can be seen in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ24BCfW3yw
both of the phones using the qualcomm chip doesnt even hit 30fps in 2d tests while the i9100 seem to hit 60 and gets capped there
i wonder if this is a driver issue or hardware issue, since not just our gs2 have this issue, but also the amaze, sensation and several other phones..
edit: here is the tmo gs2 vs sensation, same issue can be seen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6sPTcFpAc
all 3 of these phones share a similar snapdragon processor, and the crappy 2d issue seems to spread around(in certain games downloaded off the market)

not sure if anyone is even interested in this topic. but for my own fun i went on youtube and looked up the xiaomi m1(uses similar processor) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKOZKcA3VlY
seems like their phone doesnt have this issue
anyone have any insight to this?

Doesn't happened on the Skyrocket.
Faux has used the MDP drivers, that were apparently causing the lag, from the skyrocket, and ported them to the T-Mo SGS II.
From what I hear, it's fixed the lag.

Longcat14 said:
Doesn't happened on the Skyrocket.
Faux has used the MDP drivers, that were apparently causing the lag, from the skyrocket, and ported them to the T-Mo SGS II.
From what I hear, it's fixed the lag.
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im using the faux kernel, i get the same results
just give quadrant a try on the skyrocket, you'll see the 2d benchmark and it's fps not even hitting 30

adding to my post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMYMQZDoWHw
quadrant is the only thing i see that provides a 2d benchmark with fps on the bottom, and 2d stuff does seem fairly slow on our phone.

If you're not using beta kernel then your going to get lackluster results there is no lag stuttering in his kernel at all. Quadrant is not even a really good test at all. To test 2d. You need to keep in mind also that smp are vastly different from Asmp.
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AznDud333 said:
adding to my post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMYMQZDoWHw
quadrant is the only thing i see that provides a 2d benchmark with fps on the bottom, and 2d stuff does seem fairly slow on our phone.
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Oh, Quadrant's 2D is bull****.
1. It's not made for the Adreno 220.
2. It doesn't make the GPU ramp up under load, so the GPU sits at whatever idle speeds are.
I forget what the app is called that really tests 2D, but I know passmark has a 2D test in their app, and I just did the test, and it did WELL over 50 FPS.

Quadrant is so outdated that I'm not sure why anyone puts stock in anything that piece of old junk says.
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Yeah i think Quadrant is a placebo enhancer. If a phone visually runs good ( I say visually because there is no doubt the hardware is physically capable of anything we throw at it,) then i could care less what number a program gives it...

Killbynature said:
If you're not using beta kernel then your going to get lackluster results there is no lag stuttering in his kernel at all. Quadrant is not even a really good test at all. To test 2d. You need to keep in mind also that smp are vastly different from Asmp.
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im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.

AznDud333 said:
im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.
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My single core mytouch 4g can score 5000 in quadrant. So yeah. Try using a test like fps2d. From the looks of the little hardware information I can get out of it. This processor was optimized strictly for 3d performance. So any home that can use purely 3d should be considerably better performance.
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AznDud333 said:
im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.
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Edit: Never mind I was wrong.

+1 for fps2d. I was going to suggest that for testing. Or antutu
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Hey I just got my gs2 had a g2x quadrant means nothing my g2x score way higher but gs2 works better
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corwest said:
Yeah i think Quadrant is a placebo enhancer. If a phone visually runs good ( I say visually because there is no doubt the hardware is physically capable of anything we throw at it,) then i could care less what number a program gives it...
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100% agree. Benchmarks do not equal real world use.

High benchmark, what set up?

I eventually ran a benchmark on my CarbonROM install on my Sprint Galaxy Nexus, clocked at a max of 1.6
But, I saw that my device compared to others is just super super low, I don't have the numbers on me as I don't have my phone, but if you're one of those people who have a high benchmark score, what's your setup?
I know it's said that benchmarks aren't important, but they at least have to mean something with performance.
So, what are you running?

Try flashing franco.Kernel. Makes a huge difference!
Before franco: 2204
After franco: 2932 (Quadrant Standard)
ROM: PACman ROM, 1.2 GHz

Seriously, there should be a thread stickied for the bench freaks, all in the same place. *sigh*
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bk201doesntexist said:
Seriously, there should be a thread stickied for the bench freaks, all in the same place. *sigh*
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There is one. Just needs sticky-ing.

Beauenheim said:
I know it's said that benchmarks aren't important, but they at least have to mean something with performance.
So, what are you running?
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See, the thing is, benchmarks really do mean nothing. Benchmarks don't affect how well your device performs. If it runs fast, it runs fast-- you don't need the benchmark to know that.
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Beauenheim said:
I know it's said that benchmarks aren't important, but they at least have to mean something with performance.
So, what are you running?
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Yeah. Because being able to crunch 110,000,000 triangles vs 90,000,000 has real world implications.

Yay! It's been a while since we've had a thread to remind us how useless benchmarks are and offer us all an opportunity to debate about it, yet again.:good:

I make my words what Chainfire said, but globaly.
If you trust benchmark results, you'll know that running naked in the garden for 5mins will affects performance by 20%

Neat, alright.
So absolutely nothing?
That really doesn't make any sense to me. Those 90,000,000 triangles being processed will at least show me how well it will do in a game, to a degree, right?

Not in any way you could actually notice. That was also an extreme hyperbole as far as differences go. To be totally honest, the only real value of benchmarks is stress testing an OC but even then there are better ways.

063_XOBX said:
Not in any way you could actually notice. That was also an extreme hyperbole as far as differences go. To be totally honest, the only real value of benchmarks is stress testing an OC but even then there are better ways.
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Well alright, thanks for your insight. I've been in the android game for awhile but I don't know a lot of these things.