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[Q] wtf

can someone please inform me how the tmobile galaxy s phone can reach quadrant scores of 2400 and im only pushing 1200

I've hit 2700 on my Evo my penor is HUGE!

haha funny i actually seen his quad score so i know its true

I wouldn't think too much of it. Cyanogen showed that the difference between 1200 and 40 gabillion in quadrant can be something as rediculous as the filesystem. I don't put much weight in those scores when comparing different phones.
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogen-demonstrates-quadrants-flaws

ok so other then cm what other rom/kernel would reduce lag and increase speed right now im trying fresh 3.3.0.1 with king kernel #9

jjarn said:
ok so other then cm what other rom/kernel would reduce lag and increase speed right now im trying fresh 3.3.0.1 with king kernel #9
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Why don't you try installing >>Snap 7.6 kernel on a Sense ROM and then try to enable TURBO? That'll *should* get you scores beyond 2000 but I'm not sure how well it works. >>Snap kernels are designed for CM ROMs ONLY and there is no support for installing a >>Snap kernel on a Sense ROM - but I've read about others who've done it. Maybe give that a try? I haven't done it so I won't be any help but I've read about it which means maybe it'll work for you.

Dude I really don't understand why you're so concerned with Quadrant scores. It's just a number.

_MetalHead_ said:
Dude I really don't understand why you're so concerned with Quadrant scores. It's just a number.
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Well, it does ultimately represent something. But unless you can see a real difference, I wouldn't care so much.

If your phone is snappy and smooth, it shouldn't matter what score you get in Quadrant. When I was on CM6 I was scoring 2000+, on Fresh I get around 1650 and I think my Evo is running way better with Fresh than it did with CM6.

well see ive tried fresh with the kings kernel and still not gettin that high i wanna try nets kernel but not sure which one is compatible i like baked but takes too long to boot i also like fresh

Have you tried the new official kernel? It's not going to give you crazy quadrant scores but it will make your battery last a lot longer + I think the way HTC lifted the cap makes it smoother than the custom kernels. It makes the phone more useful which IMHO is more important than Quadrant scores.

Sporkman said:
WATCH OUT his e - penis just shrank 2 inches
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thanks for providing me with my new signature!

High Quadrant Scores like 2500+

Are we ever going to see quadrant scores like the hd2 is getting now ugh!!
A new rom has been imported to the hd2 that has it at 2800 quadrant score evo is better hardware and still at 1100-1500 whyyyy????
Sent From My HTC EVO4G

Lol.
What is the benchmark going to do for you?

garekinokami said:
What is the benchmark going to do for you?
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Then what does it mean and why does it even exist?

Where can I download this at

If you really want it, you can get CM6.0 here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/files/category/12-htc-evo/
and Snap 7.6 with Turbo here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733099
The current Snap only works with CM6.0 though which is a few versions behind, so you might as well wait though.

So the kernel is not universally compatible???

poulosjr said:
So the kernel is not universally compatible???
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he did clearly say that it was only compatible with cm 6.0
no it is not universally compatible
the benchmark doesn't do anything for you anyway

Quadrant scores are a joke and easily manipulated, just look at CM6 with Snap Turbo. 2800 was my highest quadrant on it and speed was identical to all other roms.

Benchmark..Schmenchmark.....

The reason were all here is to improve the performance and functionality of our devices isn't it?? These scores are posted by every reviewer, manufacturers are giving us more powerful processors with each new device. Kernels and overclock tools are a staple in the dev community. How are these benchmarks not important? Sure they may not reflect the overall performance of the device in every case but if everyone viewed benchmark scores as useless data where would we be?? Not here trying to improve on them

DirtyShroomz said:
Quadrant scores are a joke and easily manipulated, just look at CM6 with Snap Turbo. 2800 was my highest quadrant on it and speed was identical to all other roms.
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This. Even Cyanogen stated that the quadrant scores are fudged. I read his post somewhere, it had something to do with cheating on the I/O portion of the test.
My EVO with MIUI gets around 1750 and performs as good or better than when I was scoring 2600+ with cm6 and snap turbo.

Leedroid but what kernel

Hi all,
I've got Leedroid and would like to know how the hell people get the 3000+ scores on quadrant ?
I've used most of the roms with a lot of the kernels but the most i get is around 2500 - 2600 , i've heard that the kernel by Kamma is a good one but i'm at a loss as to which one i should use.
So if anyone could point out which one i could use for .
1. Stability.
2. Battery saving.
3. Benchmarking (without smoking my device of course)
Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.

dladz said:
Hi all,
I've got Leedroid and would like to know how the hell people get the 3000+ scores on quadrant ?
I've used most of the roms with a lot of the kernels but the most i get is around 2500 - 2600 , i've heard that the kernel by Kamma is a good one but i'm at a loss as to which one i should use.
So if anyone could point out which one i could use for .
1. Stability.
2. Battery saving.
3. Benchmarking (without smoking my device of course)
Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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the first thing you need to understand is quadrant is ****, it is not an acurate indication of the speed of your device, a few devs have made kernels that trick quadrant into giving it massive scores, but in reality there kernels are not the best that being said, you wont find a better kernel for stability or speed than leedroids one, it is flawless you can download it here
http://www.multiupload.com/U2ECLTRT7V

AndroHero said:
that being said, you wont find a better kernel for stability or speed than leedroids one, it is flawless you can download it here
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Have you noticed much difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 kernels? The LeeDroid thread is getting very lengthy to read through these days to catch up on new updates lol!

RobSimmo said:
Have you noticed much difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 kernels? The LeeDroid thread is getting very lengthy to read through these days to catch up on new updates lol!
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Yeah the new one is based on the latest kernel source, with the 1.75 libs,
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Tbh I use leedroids newest one an its really good, quadrant gets 2500 +
The device is smooth as silk, bit then again it always was.
I didn't know that quadrant was pants, I thought it was a good benchmarking tool.

Confirm that the newest kernel of Lee is the best!but in a few days he prepare a new awesome BFS kernel...

Mmm badly ****ed scheduler. My favourite.
If you want good quadrant, buy the paid app which gives higher scores than the free one. Do the I/O hack which core and lee droids use. Use Leedroid kernel at max freq, performance governor, and finally run it in airplane mode.
Follow all those steps and you will get around the 3000 score.
You should state if you use quadrant standard or advance when posting results as they do differ. Otherwise it's like comparing oranges to mandarins. They are both orange but one is always bigger.
Sent from my super slick Android device.

dr.m0x said:
Mmm badly ****ed scheduler. My favourite.
If you want good quadrant, buy the paid app which gives higher scores than the free one. Do the I/O hack which core and lee droids use. Use Leedroid kernel at max freq, performance governor, and finally run it in airplane mode.
Follow all those steps and you will get around the 3000 score.
You should state if you use quadrant standard or advance when posting results as they do differ. Otherwise it's like comparing oranges to mandarins. They are both orange but one is always bigger.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
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Yea it's just the standard version of quadrant, I thought that it would do the job.
Also i don't want to trick it or actually buy an app just so it can give me higher scores, that's not actually helping at all, i'll try the airplane mode to see if that helps, my phone is rapid anyway so it's only for my own satisfaction and to see how high i could get the score to go to.

Most stable/consistent kernel [Zedomax]

I spent past 5 hours testing Stock, LostKernel, and Zedomax kernels for stability and performance, all using ViperROM 2.2 as the testbed. I ran and logged Fps2D stdev and Quadrant scores 10 times and compared the averages.
Test setups:
Stock @ 1.2GHz (conservative/noop)
LostKernel Std 1.0.2.2 @ 1.2GHz (conservative/noop)
LostKernel Exp 1.0.0.4 @ 1.6GHz (conservative/noop)
Zedomax v6.02 Beta @ 1.2GHz (conservative/cfq)
Zedomax v6.02 Beta @ 1.6GHz (conservative/cfq)
Test results: Average Fps2D stdev
Stock 1.2GHz: 4.16
Zedomax 1.2GHz: 3.97
Zedomax 1.6GHz: 3.67
LostKernel 1.2GHz: 8.43
LostKernel 1.6GHz: 6.09
Test results: Standard Deviation in quadrant scores
Stock 1.2GHz: 527 (3542 average)
Zedomax 1.2GHz: 399 (3302 average)
Zedomax 1.6GHz: 268 (4229 average)
LostKernel 1.2GHz: 801 (3393 average)
LostKernel 1.6GHz: 627 (4526 average)
Zedomax kernel is producing the most consistent benchmark results (using conservative governor, the default ondemand was horrible). Stock kernel is bit less consistent as Zedomax but is still pretty stable. LostKernel on the other hand, while sometimes giving the fastest benchmarks, is like a roller coaster. I found that stable benchmarks directly translate to a much more fluid and enjoyable phone experience.
Now, I haven't tested the long-term stability, effect on LoS, battery life, performance under UV, but those can be tweaked and tuned regardless of your kernel/rom setup. So, feel free to test that for yourself. Have fun

Please close this thread. You realize that benchmarks are for little kids looking for numbers and do not signify any real life performance right? Btw you did not test the kernel on different ROMs.The LOStKernel is meant for stability performance and battery life, the version with the 1.6ghz OC is not stable so i don't know what you're looking for when they call it "experimental".

AsinX said:
Please close this thread. You realize that benchmarks are for little kids looking for numbers and do not signify any real life performance right?
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While OP might not have much real world value to some, your post on the other hand has no value at all. Share your personal experiences and stability observations or gtfo. Also, numbers do matter... your post count is a good example.
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Btw you did not test the kernel on different ROMs. .
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I tested multiple versions of StarBurst, viperROM, and stock ROMs with almost all available kernel versions of Zedomax, LostKernel, and stock. Results in OP are more or less same across all.
While benchmarks are not ideal for testing real-world performance, they do give a good idea of what to expect. What's most important is the ability for a phone to deliver consistent results with least deviation regardless of how many times you run certain benchmark, which *is* a very good indicator of stable performance. I've ran multiple ROM/Kernel setups and can personally vouch that observations in OP perfectly reflect the stability I was experiencing with those kernels.

I think benchmarks are fun to post and talk about.
Samsung Galaxy S II

JUST Another guy with little man syndrome!
frifox hes just a smart ass like everyone else, this whole xda site has lost its meaning!
Just check out my thread under general WOW ZEDOMAX KERNEL BATT LIFE
It should be interesting, cause ive completely lost it with this **** anymore.
those that cant wait to hate hate hate have little man syndrome!

AsinX said:
Please close this thread. You realize that benchmarks are for little kids looking for numbers and do not signify any real life performance right? Btw you did not test the kernel on different ROMs.The LOStKernel is meant for stability performance and battery life, the version with the 1.6ghz OC is not stable so i don't know what you're looking for when they call it "experimental".
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Posts like this are unnecessary he's simply sharing his experiences.. Isn't that one of the the reasons xda was created to share our experiences and knowledge with fellow members.. Why do people shoot threads down so quickly it chases people away.
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AsinX said:
Please close this thread. You realize that benchmarks are for little kids looking for numbers and do not signify any real life performance right? Btw you did not test the kernel on different ROMs.The LOStKernel is meant for stability performance and battery life, the version with the 1.6ghz OC is not stable so i don't know what you're looking for when they call it "experimental".
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Really? Please close your account
OP spent who knows how long comparing different kernels ay different clock speeds on one of the most popular ROMs. If you want results on the other ROM then run the tests and maybe if you ask kindly enough OP will include your findings!

I agree that quadrant scores mean nothing and can be easily manipulated.
Helpful information would have been average battery life, instances of LOS, most stable overclock/ undervolting, etc

thank god we have knowitall forum police.
idiot.
AsinX said:
Please close this thread. You realize that benchmarks are for little kids looking for numbers and do not signify any real life performance right? Btw you did not test the kernel on different ROMs.The LOStKernel is meant for stability performance and battery life, the version with the 1.6ghz OC is not stable so i don't know what you're looking for when they call it "experimental".
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I think your testing proves that if you don't mind 1.2GHz the stock kernel is the best. I am running the Zedomax kernel and no Los for 2 days but battery life is horrible.
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I have really been enjoying my ET4g. I have been around since the Touch Pro, back when everyone was trying to get Donut to run on the Raphael, and I remember how much of a pain it was getting the linux kernel to run properly. These Devs on here are incredible with how well they have compiled and worked as hard as they did for a FREE service and with the fact that I have owned the Moment, the Epic 4g, Both nexus devices, and Photon (I felt true self loathing in that instance), I am appreciative of the OP. Im running LoStKernel at 1.3 (my E4gT isnt stable at anything above 1.452 on any kernel, on any ROM) and I regularly have 1.5 days of life with moderate to heavy use and WiFi and GPS on constantly. I work for RS so the Epic is used for demo's regularly, mostly to show of the sAMOLED and the smoothness of the phone, and while I prefer LoStKernel, I do have to say way to go to ALL Devs! Keep up the good work! *Heads back to rock he crawled out from*

What about stock with Tegrak at 1.4 and 1.6?
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Zedo has the worst case of LOSes. FAIL!

akarol said:
Zedo has the worst case of LOSes. FAIL!
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OP states he/she didn't test for LOS. I never had LOS on Zedo (or any kernel for that matter).
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JohnCorleone said:
What about stock with Tegrak at 1.4 and 1.6?
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I know some processors tolerances are different than others, even if it is the same processor from the same batch but I am wondering if anyone has any idea why mine will just freeze if I even consider 1.4ghz or beyond. I mean, I had the OG Epic at 1.452 as a daily. I know it is a totally different animal now with the GSII but I am still a little weirded out that I havent seen any other reports of inability to overclock

loveableterrorepic4g said:
I am wondering if anyone has any idea why mine will just freeze if I even consider 1.4ghz or beyond.
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Try overvolting. I actually had to increase voltage on mine to keep phone stable. Of course that reflected badly on my battery life so I decided to stick with 1.2GHz, which is already more than enough for a daily driver :-D

I appreciate it. I will give it a shot. My phone is a weird one with some of the mods but so far everything is great. I might give OV a try though! Thanks!

[Q] Low Benchmark Scores

My benchmark scores are horrible. My girlfriends mytouch 4g slide continually scores better. Just doesnt seem right for this flagship phone. Anybody else?

Benchmarks means nothing.
If you're using Quadrant Standard, you're basing it off a benchmark designed for single core CPUs and hasn't been updated for months. Not to mention, it is not optimized for ICS or multi-core CPUs.

jjzah said:
My benchmark scores are horrible. My girlfriends mytouch 4g slide continually scores better. Just doesnt seem right for this flagship phone. Anybody else?
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And which benchmark app is that?
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Yes i was using quadrant. Thanks for the info!

jjzah said:
Yes i was using quadrant. Thanks for the info!
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Try using,
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUuQUJlbmNoTWFyayJd
https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5jZmJlbmNoIl0.
Those benchmarks are optimized for multi-core devices. Unsure about ICS but it should provide a better comparison. And benchmarks don't mean anything (once again!)
Not really sure why you thanked him because he didn't offer any credibility towards answering your question, but ok -_-

Hi,
What benchmarks?
In what conditions (i mean if you run benchs in charge+10 benchs the one after the other->overheating->thermal protection->decrease cpu freq->lowers score/very low RAM/rogue/etc...)?
Rom?
Kernel?
Scores (especially in what benchs)?
And the most important is that your phone works perfectly?
Indeed,the benchs are sometimes subjective...
I agree Quadrant is out of age
The must is Antutu (bench "multiple things"),Cf Bench also but sometimes very inaccurate...,only certain benchs testing the cpu,others only the gpu (fps 2d/3d for example)and the other yet another cpu + gpu...
Screenshot of your benchs?
Much more detail would be welcome

zephiK said:
Try using,
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUuQUJlbmNoTWFyayJd
https://market.android.com/details?...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImV1LmNoYWluZmlyZS5jZmJlbmNoIl0.
Those benchmarks are optimized for multi-core devices. Unsure about ICS but it should provide a better comparison. And benchmarks don't mean anything (once again!)
Not really sure why you thanked him because he didn't offer any credibility towards answering your question, but ok -_-
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Maybe he discovered a different benchmark tool which favored him more after my comment
Thank you for compensation ;-)
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