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[KERNEL]1.28Ghz?!

Just wondering if anybody has tried this kernel yet? Found it over on AndroidMobileJunkie.com (Followed a link in somebody's sig here n XDA that said 1.28Ghz so naturally I was curious lol) Anyways, here's the link for the post over on AMJ. http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-22-oct.11/

yea ziggy's kernel. It's been in discussion in both of the Desire rom port threads. 1.28 is very rough on the processor though, and mostly unstable for a lot of people's phones (mine included), even ziggy admits it's a risky business, but he has proven it is possible.

I am so tempted to try this, but I'm afraid to fry my phone. My go big or go home mentality may make me give in. Wish there was someone who posted on the thread link

I ran it. No problems a 1.28 but really didn't use it long. Here's my Quadrant post in the Desire Z port thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8775977&postcount=168
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I'd imagine that clocking the processor that high wouldn't make much difference than say, 1.19GHz.
In fact, in plenty of ROMs I've tried, anything clocking over 1152mhz actually gives me a decrease in my quadrant scores. Not to say its not a stability issue - I'd assume that most Snapdragons actually clock higher than 998mhz, but then are reduced because that's baseline performance, anything less than 998mhz would get kicked.
I've never had a ROM crash, even running at 1.19GHz, but didn't notice any performance gains, plus, unless you just happen to get a chip that is capable of 1.28GHz no problem, it's probably near bottle-neck anyway.
And Quadrant has several variables way outside of clock speed that can pull 1800's, including just your flavor ROM.
Bottom Line: It's not worth frying your phone just for a barely-existent performance gain. If you happen to have a processor that is incapable of stability at 1.28GHz, you might fry out some transistors, then get stuck with something that freezes if you clock it over 700, let alone the 998 stock.

For me personally 1.28 is no improvement over 1.152. In fact, it gives me worse benchmarks.

sorry for repost

I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.

I tried this kernal and my camera stopped working...

HeyItsLou said:
I gave this kernel a try and I actually prefer the newest HTC 2.6.32.17 charging time has significantly decreased battery life has increased and the performance is really responsive and smooth. My quadrant scores are nothing impressive pretty average but I would rather all of the above than a high quadrant.
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Lou hit the nail on the head. I love the .17 kernel. Im using the new guy with great performance, battery life, charging, and neat transitions. its like a new phone.

I'm using this with a vanilla froyo ROM and my battery life is amazing. Haven't noticed any freezing or any program not working.

Wow!
Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol

dimebagdan65 said:
Thanks for all the replies guys, I think for now I'm gonna stick with the stock kernel also, I just remember back when I used to run KxK's kernels seeing great benchmarks and battery life I was always wondering if there were any faster out there lol
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There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
Z

Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?

Nevermind...found it!

ziggy471 said:
There's always faster, the question is will they work. lol
When I'm running the newer Sense ports, HD or Z, I can only run 1.113, no matter how much or little voltage I give it. When I'm running an older one, I can go all the way up.
As for stability at 1.28G, I need to work on the voltage more, to find the sweet spot, I just did it 'cause Jugs said one of his Bravo buds had it working, so I had to try.
I'll keep playing with it if people are still interested, otherwise, I'll just keep at the lower speeds.
Z
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By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy

hajabooja said:
Just loaded up your AOSP on Ruby 1.1.4. Running great, 1600 in Quad at 1ghz. Everything seems really smooth. Are the voltages undervolted at 1ghz? Maybe you could start your own thread?
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What AOSP kernel??? I only see one kernel, and it references skyraider, which leads me to believe it is a sense kernel
edit: I am dumb. It is a different thread on the same site as listed above
http://forum.androidmobilejunkie.com/threads/kernel-ziggy471-droid-incredible-aosp-23-oct.24/

rmaccamr said:
By the way, my post wasn't meant to disrespect your efforts to 1.28GHz, I'm just giving fair warning that someone could possibly burn out their phone if they jack it up all the way. When I'm ready for an upgrade, I'll probably put this thing to the max.
Thanks Ziggy
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I didn't take it as such, and I agree with you fully. I prefer somewhere between 1.113 and 1.15. That's the reason I included the init script to set the max at 1.113, which I find very stable and fast, hell I'd say 1865 quad with ID's Z port isn't too shabby at 1.13.
I should be able to get 1.28 more stable with playing with the voltages, it's just that takes time, and I wasted too much this morning doing both AOSP INC and Evo kernels, so I'm worn out for awhile on kernels. I still need to fix the Evo for puertoblack, since it appears I left the debug port out, so no adb for it. lol
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Leedroid but what kernel

Hi all,
I've got Leedroid and would like to know how the hell people get the 3000+ scores on quadrant ?
I've used most of the roms with a lot of the kernels but the most i get is around 2500 - 2600 , i've heard that the kernel by Kamma is a good one but i'm at a loss as to which one i should use.
So if anyone could point out which one i could use for .
1. Stability.
2. Battery saving.
3. Benchmarking (without smoking my device of course)
Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.

dladz said:
Hi all,
I've got Leedroid and would like to know how the hell people get the 3000+ scores on quadrant ?
I've used most of the roms with a lot of the kernels but the most i get is around 2500 - 2600 , i've heard that the kernel by Kamma is a good one but i'm at a loss as to which one i should use.
So if anyone could point out which one i could use for .
1. Stability.
2. Battery saving.
3. Benchmarking (without smoking my device of course)
Any answers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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the first thing you need to understand is quadrant is ****, it is not an acurate indication of the speed of your device, a few devs have made kernels that trick quadrant into giving it massive scores, but in reality there kernels are not the best that being said, you wont find a better kernel for stability or speed than leedroids one, it is flawless you can download it here
http://www.multiupload.com/U2ECLTRT7V

AndroHero said:
that being said, you wont find a better kernel for stability or speed than leedroids one, it is flawless you can download it here
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Have you noticed much difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 kernels? The LeeDroid thread is getting very lengthy to read through these days to catch up on new updates lol!

RobSimmo said:
Have you noticed much difference between 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 kernels? The LeeDroid thread is getting very lengthy to read through these days to catch up on new updates lol!
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Yeah the new one is based on the latest kernel source, with the 1.75 libs,
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Tbh I use leedroids newest one an its really good, quadrant gets 2500 +
The device is smooth as silk, bit then again it always was.
I didn't know that quadrant was pants, I thought it was a good benchmarking tool.

Confirm that the newest kernel of Lee is the best!but in a few days he prepare a new awesome BFS kernel...

Mmm badly ****ed scheduler. My favourite.
If you want good quadrant, buy the paid app which gives higher scores than the free one. Do the I/O hack which core and lee droids use. Use Leedroid kernel at max freq, performance governor, and finally run it in airplane mode.
Follow all those steps and you will get around the 3000 score.
You should state if you use quadrant standard or advance when posting results as they do differ. Otherwise it's like comparing oranges to mandarins. They are both orange but one is always bigger.
Sent from my super slick Android device.

dr.m0x said:
Mmm badly ****ed scheduler. My favourite.
If you want good quadrant, buy the paid app which gives higher scores than the free one. Do the I/O hack which core and lee droids use. Use Leedroid kernel at max freq, performance governor, and finally run it in airplane mode.
Follow all those steps and you will get around the 3000 score.
You should state if you use quadrant standard or advance when posting results as they do differ. Otherwise it's like comparing oranges to mandarins. They are both orange but one is always bigger.
Sent from my super slick Android device.
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Yea it's just the standard version of quadrant, I thought that it would do the job.
Also i don't want to trick it or actually buy an app just so it can give me higher scores, that's not actually helping at all, i'll try the airplane mode to see if that helps, my phone is rapid anyway so it's only for my own satisfaction and to see how high i could get the score to go to.

[Q] Benchmark questions!

First off I'm fairly aware of the fact that benchmarks are not accurate representations of the day to day real life usefulness of the handset.
That said, I used both linpack and quadrant standard edition for the first time tonight while testing another kernel with my current rom (which is cm7, ggingerbread-6).
At the conclusion of my testing it was very obvious that one kernel completely outclassed the other in a benchmarking situation, however something else became apparent that leads to this post.
If I follow and believe everyone else's benchmark scores, even those posted an hour earlier in the same kernel thread, then I might have the slowest Evo on planet earth.
I see other users of the same rom and kernal posting scores which are never below 1500 in quadrant, I saw one instance of 1300 but nonetheless, even overclocking to 1075 I can barely break 1100 and usually fall just below that. Sadly enough on the "slower" of the 2 kernals I was barely surpassing 900.
Now on the linpack side of things I don't have any comparative scores to judge against, but ill post what I received anyhow for information's sake. On the "faster" of the two kernels (the one that came prebuilt into the rom) I was getting between 33-34, on the new kernel I was testing I was getting between 19 and 22, these are all "mflops" of course, whatever that may be.
Someone give me some information or advice here! Do I just happen to have a slow evolution, or are others either exaggerating or using some trick/mod/tweak I'm royalty unaware of??
Thanks in advance!

some people brag, some people cheat, most have low scores, few have high, there isn't a very good baseline and the benchmark programs dont scale very well at all, I have run 1800 scores and I have run 600 scores, guess what. both roms were smooth and you wouldn't have been able to tell a difference, what does that mean? do we believe the benchmark programs? are they spitting a random number at us? who knows! dont believe them, be satisfied with how your evo is running and if it's not running very well then try a different kernel or rom, keep trying new ones until your satisfied, only then will some benchmark program output not mean a thing

Most of my Quadrant benchmarks with aftermarket ROMS+kernels have been in the 1100-1400 range, using VaelPak and various kernels to get most of the better scores there. The highest I've had was CM7RC1 with the SnapTurbo kernel, got an 1821. It was unusable, though.
I've come to the conclusion that the benchmarks aren't as important as battery life, especially with the Evo.

Biggest reason for the huge difference in numbers? Different versions of the app. The dev changed how it rates phones.
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Thanks!
Explained. I knew they were totally not concurrent with the outward performance and usability of the device, and for what its worth while I've only ever flashed a total of 3 roms, this one is perfect for me and I seem to be one of the rare few with no problems whatsoever, everything works exactly as I would expect it to. So yes, l never feared my device was suddenly slower now that I knew the all knowing superultrabenchmark number.

what is Quadrant really for??

Okay I have been using the quadrant and been hearing about it with ROMs. I have had Quadrant scores range from 1000 to about 2500 so what does this really mean exactly? My reason for asking is I came from a custom ROM where my quadrant scores were close to 2200 all the time. Then I flashed the stock Ec05 ROM and my scores are in the low 1000. BUT.....I do not see any speed difference with either ROMs. I think the stock one is a little more stable and just as fast as the custom one I was on where my quadrant scores were sky high. Can someone please explain to me why exactly one would use the quadrant score for??

Quadrant is VERY inaccurate
and is just a measure of people's E-penis

iSaint said:
Quadrant is VERY inaccurate
and is just a measure of people's E-penis
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LOL..That was funny. I would just hate to give up the stock ROM because it is so stable and (fast enough) to have a custom ROM with issues and a high quadrant score. I honestly think I will be sticking with the stock ROM. I hope somebody will be kind enough to make some kernals or themes to work with it. If not oh well. Stability over quadrant score for me.

iSaint said:
Quadrant is VERY inaccurate
and is just a measure of people's E-penis
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I came here to post exactly this.
Get Quadrant Advanced to see exactly why it's BS - it's all IO scores, especially on some ROMs that use a little DB trick (no offense, if you guys still use it ) - then switch to Smartbench. Smartbench is a much more accurate measure, and the dev has actively reached out to Epic users in testing his latest version.

I was wondering about this myself. Think I'm going to check out Smartbench. Thanks k0nane for the tip and that awesome rom of yours

WORDMAN713 said:
I was wondering about this myself. Think I'm going to check out Smartbench. Thanks k0nane for the tip and that awesome rom of yours
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Thanks for your support! Keep in mind 2010 is designed for single-core phones, and 2011 for dual-core.

ics overclocked!

this is just for those who wish to see a bit more snappyness in your ics....
First i have no idea if this will work on all roms, but im using the PHANTOM rom ( 4.0.4 ) and using the tergat paid version.. im using the kernal that came cooked into the rom....
i just loaded the overclock module, and set it to 1.54Ghz.. i did not change the voltages at all..
doing this i saw an increase in about +200 points testing with antutu benchmark...
im advance i apologize for wasting fourm space but just figured since i havent seen anything on overclocking ics yet, id just show how i did it..
just something to tinker with..

There are threads and this has been discussed before. Thanks for trying though.
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of course.... always a thread mixed within the 1000s out there.
one thing i noticed is on the antutu it shows where people have post thier results... how on earth are some of them overclocking to 1.9ghz and 1.75hz.. scoring soooooo high?! for example im at 1.452ghz scoring say 7200-7300 and some are at 1.452 scoring 12000-15000... seems kinda high to me...
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chris-allen said:
of course.... always a thread mixed within the 1000s out there.
one thing i noticed is on the antutu it shows where people have post thier results... how on earth are some of them overclocking to 1.9ghz and 1.75hz.. scoring soooooo high?! for example im at 1.452ghz scoring say 7200-7300 and some are at 1.452 scoring 12000-15000... seems kinda high to me...
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Lets just say they are ways to cheat the benchmark test. I never did and not sure exactly how to but I know I have seen people talking about it.

ace0603 said:
Lets just say they are ways to cheat the benchmark test. I never did and not sure exactly how to but I know I have seen people talking about it.
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I've never understood why someone would want to fake a already meaningless benchmark number. It screams I'm over compensating
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i agree..i was just wanting to overclock. little to sed if it would make some of the ics Roms any snappier.. Alot of Ics is being released on quad core phones and phones with slightly snapier processors.. but i thought taking my 1.2ghz to say 1.4ghZ would polish the speeds of ics on my phone.. well and it does!! just gotta use tegrak..
seems like 1.452 is the best.. im not good on messing with voltages so i stay away from too much change. seems lime @ 1.4 i get a 200-400 point increase, but at 1.6ghz it seems to decrease 200-250points and 1.7ghz locks up 1/2 way through the benchmark..
got me.. i just like tinkering around with it... i tried it on calkulins El29 rom and holy **** it screams!!!

chris-allen said:
i agree..i was just wanting to overclock. little to sed if it would make some of the ics Roms any snappier.. Alot of Ics is being released on quad core phones and phones with slightly snapier processors.. but i thought taking my 1.2ghz to say 1.4ghZ would polish the speeds of ics on my phone.. well and it does!! just gotta use tegrak..
seems like 1.452 is the best.. im not good on messing with voltages so i stay away from too much change. seems lime @ 1.4 i get a 200-400 point increase, but at 1.6ghz it seems to decrease 200-250points and 1.7ghz locks up 1/2 way through the benchmark..
got me.. i just like tinkering around with it... i tried it on calkulins El29 rom and holy **** it screams!!!
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Keep in mind that most of the newer phones being released in the US are still dual core. I believe the reason for this is for the LTE support. And even single core phones can run ICS without much of a hickup so I wouldnt worry too much about overclocking just to gain some performance in ICS. The devs are working hard to tune it up. Just follow Phantoms thread. And I am sure once we get the official release and/or source drops we will see even greater performance tweaks done to ICS for our phone. Its just a time game....