Hey I was wondering, does my processor take breaking in? I just returned my other s3 because of defects but with this completely new one the quadrant scores and antutu scores are very low.. only like 3300 on quadrant and something low on antutu also.
The average stock benchmark scores are around 4800 and 6800 in antutu. So will my phone start breaking in and speeding up?
Those benchmarks mean nothing
As long as the phone feels smooth ignore benchmarks
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True but I'd like it to run like everyone else's...
Honestly it's just a matter of feeling like your on the top of the food chain =p and for the record, after afew hours of getting my processor warmed up and kicked in, my scores jumped way up
I don't need benchmark scores to know I'm better than every one else
Being stuck up is great
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So how exactally are u better than everyone else?
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Squirt oil in all phone openings... That'll make it slick as whale poo....
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ReapersDeath said:
Hey I was wondering, does my processor take breaking in? I just returned my other s3 because of defects but with this completely new one the quadrant scores and antutu scores are very low.. only like 3300 on quadrant and something low on antutu also.
The average stock benchmark scores are around 4800 and 6800 in antutu. So will my phone start breaking in and speeding up?
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Not to be rude. So sorry if this comes off all flame-Ish but you do realize that a CPU is made out of soi transistors those don't hold state if anything the heat slowly changes the resistance in negative ways over 1000s of hours of use leads to heat increase and eventual failure over a very long time line well that's how it goes in x86 computing only if stuff gets hot though. If it stays below 100Ish you don't see the heat increase part.
No seriously though Linux uses a cache so does dalvik and beyond that Android also uses a cache so benchmarks being subjective aside yes it takes a bit.
Just remember benchmarks are there to test changes and compare hardware. On Android....really Linux in general its almost impossible to compare hardware sometimes. The difference are not something that translates and. All of Android operates through a vm pretty much. ..
So your stuck back at comparison .using them to create a applicable baseline for say ....those tweaks you make in setcpu or maybe that shiny new kernel you flash vs the last version.
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Those benchmarks mean nothing
As long as the phone feels smooth ignore benchmarks
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I'm totally not with him though. If you are altering settings in your phone like cache stuff. You want to quantify the effects of the changes any way you can not that linpack our antutu or that complete piece of garbage quadrant are the defacto meter for that
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Not to be rude. So sorry if this comes off all flame-Ish but you do realize that a CPU is made out of soi transistors those don't hold state if anything the heat slowly changes the resistance in negative ways over 1000s of hours of use leads to heat increase and eventual failure over a very long time line well that's how it goes in x86 computing only if stuff gets hot though. If it stays below 100Ish you don't see the heat increase part.
No seriously though Linux uses a cache so does dalvik and beyond that Android also uses a cache so benchmarks being subjective aside yes it takes a bit.
Just remember benchmarks are there to test changes and compare hardware. On Android....really Linux in general its almost impossible to compare hardware sometimes. The difference are not something that translates and. All of Android operates through a vm pretty much. ..
So your stuck back at comparison .using them to create a applicable baseline for say ....those tweaks you make in setcpu or maybe that shiny new kernel you flash vs the last version.
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I'm totally not with him though. If you are altering settings in your phone like cache stuff. You want to quantify the effects of the changes any way you can not that linpack our antutu or that complete piece of garbage quadrant are the defacto meter for that
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I don't understand how I go from 3800 in quadrant to 5089 after a few hours of nothing but stock lol.. then 4200 antutu to 6867.. but it goes up and down a little. I like to think processors are getting more advanced and are becoming aware lol. Turning into brains. Give it 5 years and hardware for phones will be so good we can play wow on them and then later on s voice will have a real personality and be living XD she will shock you for even thinking about looking at an iPhone or HTC =p. I know I'm sleep typing or something and that this is all random XD
Could it be possible that your phone was busy building cache files ? If you get quadrant pro it give you a breakdown of each score if you notice your I/o score is low then the filesystem is busy doing god knows what .
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Buddy a15 arch power savings aside isn't that stellar AMD is the only one talking innovation in cpus. Trust me you will be looking through your cellphone soon not at looking at it
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Any idea? Most reviews i saw for the GNex shows it getting 1700-2000+.
Meaningless or not, i wanna know why it's so much less.
Wtf
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Any idea? Most reviews i saw for the GNex shows it getting 1700-2000+.
Meaningless or not, i wanna know why it's so much less.
Wtf
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I checked it right when I got the phone for the hell of it and got around the same number. The only thing I care about is if it will lag with daily use. If it doesn't I don't care if it has half a core and 1 byte of ram.
Quadrant scores are meaningless and don't give any indication of how the phone performs in real world use.
My old Galaxy S2 scored 4000+ in quadrant but does it feel 3 times faster than my Nexus definitely no!
Again, I don't care about what the test actually means but why are our scores so much lower on the same device compared to the reviews show? What is different and why? It leads me to believe that something is wrong.
I freaked too, but I think its bs. If you install System Monitor you can watch both CPU cores in action. Also, other bench tests clearly show that you're getting dual core performance. I think Quadrant will need an update.
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Again, I don't care about what the test actually means but why are our scores so much lower on the same device compared to the reviews show? What is different and why? It leads me to believe that something is wrong.
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I get around 1400+ as well in quadrant and I don't think there is anything wrong as when I first got my GS2 my scores where lower than what was seen online from reviewers as well.
Don't forget they probably had a phone with no extra apps on it or just the bare minimum which could also affect the scores.
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I get around 1400+ as well in quadrant and I don't think there is anything wrong as when I first got my GS2 my scores where lower than what was seen online from reviewers as well.
Don't forget they probably had a phone with no extra apps on it or just the bare minimum which could also affect the scores.
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I got a 1700 reading from quadrant. I don't know if quadrant takes advantage of the dualcore cpu?
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I got a 1700 reading from quadrant. I don't know if quadrant takes advantage of the dualcore cpu?
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I think it doesn't and it needs a desperate update anyway to fully support ICS.
Someone correct me if I am wrong about quadrant standard not seeing both cores?
It's the higher resolution mainly.
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ive been wondering this for a while, ever seeing the 2d test in quadrant run slowly(to my eyes, at least) that whether or not this phone or the qualcomm chip has some issues with rendering stuff in 2d
as can be seen in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ24BCfW3yw
both of the phones using the qualcomm chip doesnt even hit 30fps in 2d tests while the i9100 seem to hit 60 and gets capped there
i wonder if this is a driver issue or hardware issue, since not just our gs2 have this issue, but also the amaze, sensation and several other phones..
edit: here is the tmo gs2 vs sensation, same issue can be seen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM6sPTcFpAc
all 3 of these phones share a similar snapdragon processor, and the crappy 2d issue seems to spread around(in certain games downloaded off the market)
not sure if anyone is even interested in this topic. but for my own fun i went on youtube and looked up the xiaomi m1(uses similar processor) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKOZKcA3VlY
seems like their phone doesnt have this issue
anyone have any insight to this?
Doesn't happened on the Skyrocket.
Faux has used the MDP drivers, that were apparently causing the lag, from the skyrocket, and ported them to the T-Mo SGS II.
From what I hear, it's fixed the lag.
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Doesn't happened on the Skyrocket.
Faux has used the MDP drivers, that were apparently causing the lag, from the skyrocket, and ported them to the T-Mo SGS II.
From what I hear, it's fixed the lag.
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im using the faux kernel, i get the same results
just give quadrant a try on the skyrocket, you'll see the 2d benchmark and it's fps not even hitting 30
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMYMQZDoWHw
quadrant is the only thing i see that provides a 2d benchmark with fps on the bottom, and 2d stuff does seem fairly slow on our phone.
If you're not using beta kernel then your going to get lackluster results there is no lag stuttering in his kernel at all. Quadrant is not even a really good test at all. To test 2d. You need to keep in mind also that smp are vastly different from Asmp.
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adding to my post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMYMQZDoWHw
quadrant is the only thing i see that provides a 2d benchmark with fps on the bottom, and 2d stuff does seem fairly slow on our phone.
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Oh, Quadrant's 2D is bull****.
1. It's not made for the Adreno 220.
2. It doesn't make the GPU ramp up under load, so the GPU sits at whatever idle speeds are.
I forget what the app is called that really tests 2D, but I know passmark has a 2D test in their app, and I just did the test, and it did WELL over 50 FPS.
Quadrant is so outdated that I'm not sure why anyone puts stock in anything that piece of old junk says.
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Yeah i think Quadrant is a placebo enhancer. If a phone visually runs good ( I say visually because there is no doubt the hardware is physically capable of anything we throw at it,) then i could care less what number a program gives it...
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If you're not using beta kernel then your going to get lackluster results there is no lag stuttering in his kernel at all. Quadrant is not even a really good test at all. To test 2d. You need to keep in mind also that smp are vastly different from Asmp.
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im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.
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im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.
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My single core mytouch 4g can score 5000 in quadrant. So yeah. Try using a test like fps2d. From the looks of the little hardware information I can get out of it. This processor was optimized strictly for 3d performance. So any home that can use purely 3d should be considerably better performance.
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im using faux 07b4
and i guess it could be quadrant being outdated..i was just throwing my 2cents out.
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Edit: Never mind I was wrong.
+1 for fps2d. I was going to suggest that for testing. Or antutu
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Hey I just got my gs2 had a g2x quadrant means nothing my g2x score way higher but gs2 works better
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Yeah i think Quadrant is a placebo enhancer. If a phone visually runs good ( I say visually because there is no doubt the hardware is physically capable of anything we throw at it,) then i could care less what number a program gives it...
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100% agree. Benchmarks do not equal real world use.
Hello. I have flashed the Synergy kernel for CM7 and I have CyanogenMod Self-Kang. I am overclocked to 1.8Ghz and have the lag free governor. Why is it that when I run a benchmark I get such low results? Take a look:
I've seen people getting around 5000 on this device! Is there a reason why it is under 4000?
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Edit: OK thanks. I am not going to post anymore and I encourage other people not to (by not post I mean in this "Why is this" forum. I'm sorry I posted in the wrong place...
first, wrong forum. Should put this in Q&A
second, Quadrant results means nothing, my phone is giving me 3k and it doesn't lag what so ever.
I've never hit 5000 with my phone I'm always in between 3000-4400. Plus benchmark scores mean nothing. Even if the device is not hardware accelerated it will still be lag free. Not to mention this post should of been in the "General" section. It is not about development. Re-post your question in General, you might get more answers.
Yo just because 1 person got away with posting in the wrong forum yesterday does not mean you can ask questions here. This is why we have different sections in the first place. Follow the rules of the forum and do your research because if you did you would have found out that quadrant means nothing.
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STOP USING QUADRANT!!!
Use a program that has been updated like Antutu.
Quadrant has not been updated in over a year. Let it die for the sake of human kind.
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Quadrant really doesn't do a very good job of true benchmarking, and it's WAY too easy to fool it. Some very simple hacks can be done to artificially increase the score by a large amount. For example:
1. enabling stagefright by default in the build.prop can do this (on some stock roms.) This will make it so the h.264 encoding test will be falsely inflated.
2. Tricking the system into using a ramdisk for it's IO test instead of the actual nand. This one should be self explanitory.
3. On the old galaxy phones, that used rfs for the filesystem, if converted to EXT4 it would give a HUGE boost, but no real world performance difference. (Quandrant doesn't seem to read rfs correctly.)
And believe me, there are PLENTY of others. No to mention its not optimized for more than one core.
Benchmarks mean nothing. Real world usability does, unless it's just an e-peen thing, my benchmarks are better than yours type of thing. It's kind of like overclocking. I've NEVER seen the point in it (on a cell phone, not a pc.) You end up taking a risk of greatly reducing the lifespan of your cpu for 2-3 extra frames a second in games, drain more battery power, and again, in real world use you won't see a difference at all.
If you're trying to show off to others how cool your phone is, instead of showing them quad scores that mean nothing, why not let them USE it for a few minutes? That's what sold me on this phone when I bought it, using someone's for about 15 minutes
It could have been he was using performance governor and cleared out his ram. That would cause a height quadrant score.
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I've had my Galaxy S3 from T-Mobile now for about a week. The phone seems to run perfectly fine. However when I attempt to run Quadrant for example my friends are averaging anywhere from 4900 - 5300 for their stock T-Mobile S3. My same phone, stock, everything closed/killed from task manager, only manages to score 3100 - 3600.
When I check system information in Quadrant sometimes it says my current clock speed is 912Mhz, 1134Mhz etc.. Rarely do I see it at the full 1512Mhz..
Power saving mode is definitely turned off. Even after doing a factory reset and running quadrant on a fresh install it still scores the same. Beginning to get frustrated this phone isn't living up to the hype.
Ideas anyone? Thanks.
I did a battery pull, killed all my apps, cleared my memory, waited a few seconds, ran Quadrant again and still can only manage to score 3100.
No offence but who cares about benchmarks...... the phones soooo smooth and awsome
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Don't have mine yet but I have seen someone have the same problem on here and what was wrong with theirs was they didn't know they could set the CPU Max mhz in the settings. Perhaps yours is not set to Max? Not sure where exactly in the settings it is but I'm sure it isn't hard to find
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I've been through the settings menu in the phone numerous times. Have not seen an option like that nor do I think it exists? For the most part the phone runs smooth I do notice it lags/hangs up sometimes but I'm guessing that's because the processor isn't going to full potential.
Anyone else have any ideas or where I can find this mysterious setting?
I've noticed on my sprint phone that as the phone gets warm the upper limit that the CPU can scale to seems to be reduced. The day I got it the first quad run was about 5k, but after 30min of nonstop usage the next run was down to 3.5 or so. Check it yourself with setcpu, it will start capping at 1100-1200.
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I've noticed on my sprint phone that as the phone gets warm the upper limit that the CPU can scale to seems to be reduced. The day I got it the first quad run was about 5k, but after 30min of nonstop usage the next run was down to 3.5 or so. Check it yourself with setcpu, it will start capping at 1100-1200.
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I will check it out but considering even after a battery pull and letting the phone sit power off for an hour I still get crappy scores. Then theres others who can run Quadrant back to back to back to back to back and achieve 4500 - 5100 constantly. I can't even get it on one try! I'll download SetCPU and see.
If you are that concerned, wipe and try it all over again.
EDIT - Damn my spotty reading, you already tried that. Sorry. Not much else to do, unless you try to restore the OS through Kies. A fresh install from a fresh source?
Or sell it on craigslist :laugh:
The phone works fine. Everything is very smooth and responds fast. It's pretty much just the benchmark scores that are throwing me off. I'll see what happens with the second S3 I will receive tomorrow. I can't imagine the heat playing a factor because this S4 is supposed to be one of the coolest running processors out there. There's a huge video on it somewhere where they did a butter melting test. Anyways time will tell I suppose.
Why do you care so much about benchmarks? Also the phone won't ramp the processor up to 1500 if it has no reason to..
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Why do you care so much about benchmarks? Also the phone won't ramp the processor up to 1500 if it has no reason to..
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What's the point of having the newest hottest phone right away? To be able to say it can do what others cant. One of those things being blowing away other phones in the benchmark arena. I just don't see why others are able to hit 5000+ scores and my device can't seem to even come close. It just makes me think there's something wrong with my handset. Do you blame me for being skeptical after the price we pay for these things?
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What's the point of having the newest hottest phone right away? To be able to say it can do what others cant. One of those things being blowing away other phones in the benchmark arena. I just don't see why others are able to hit 5000+ scores and my device can't seem to even come close. It just makes me think there's something wrong with my handset. Do you blame me for being skeptical after the price we pay for these things?
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This is why I buy awesome phones. I love bleeding edge hardware lol.
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Chicago281 said:
What's the point of having the newest hottest phone right away? To be able to say it can do what others cant. One of those things being blowing away other phones in the benchmark arena. I just don't see why others are able to hit 5000+ scores and my device can't seem to even come close. It just makes me think there's something wrong with my handset. Do you blame me for being skeptical after the price we pay for these things?
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Considering you say it works just fine and are basing these problems that you have off of Quadrant..
Also I guess I will try and help since you are from Chicago they're should definitely be a setting somewhere that allows you to change the CPU settings. I'm not positive where but I did read in a review this was the first phone out of the box able to adjust governors. I would look but I'm on CM9
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I've searched AndroidForums, Here, Google, can't find anything on being able to change the cpu speed without rooting.
Someone have the setcpu xda download page need the link, thx.
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I've searched AndroidForums, Here, Google, can't find anything on being able to change the cpu speed without rooting.
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It might only be the international version.. I read it in a review from one of the tech sites.
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Do you perhaps have the CPU Power Saving option on in the Power Saving menu?
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Do you perhaps have the CPU Power Saving option on in the Power Saving menu?
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First post last paragraph.. No
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Chicago281 said:
I've been through the settings menu in the phone numerous times. Have not seen an option like that nor do I think it exists? For the most part the phone runs smooth I do notice it lags/hangs up sometimes but I'm guessing that's because the processor isn't going to full potential.
Anyone else have any ideas or where I can find this mysterious setting?
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There is a setting for this, it's actually incorporated in the power savings mode. If you read through it, there is an area that says the max cpu speed is actually lowered when it's enabled. But, if you're not using the power saver mode, then it's irrelevant to your situation. It could have to do with the bloat though, and also the international is almost double the scores as ours yet there is minimal difference in speed presented in side by side real usage testing. I wouldn't get too hung up on the benchmarks, it kind of ruins the enjoyment you get from just using the phone, and seeing how smooth and flawless most everything is. Also, once debated and tweaked, those scores will most definitely improve and will probably ease your mind a bit.
stated by google employees and disproved by CyanogenMod's Acree
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...rooted-android-phones-proven-useless-2013014/
Figured as much but I was hopeful this was a real break threw for android.
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Nothing with that cool of a name can be useless.
But seriously I do notice a clear improvement the moment I turn it on no matter what these people say.
For instance the app I am using to type this on, Tapatalk can lag badly loading forums. I have noticed when the Seeder is turned on this never lags at all. YMMV.
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I. Don't care what android Dev says. It works. I bet it doesn't make much difference on a new device, but on a lower speced device' it does wonders.
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Boy this app is causing some discussion. Running on HP Touchpad on cm9. Battery burns faster, but improvement outways that loss. Works for me.
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Nothing with that cool of a name can be useless.
But seriously I do notice a clear improvement the moment I turn it on no matter what these people say.
For instance the app I am using to type this on, Tapatalk can lag badly loading forums. I have noticed when the Seeder is turned on this never lags at all. YMMV.
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I. Don't care what android Dev says. It works. I bet it doesn't make much difference on a new device, but on a lower speced device' it does wonders.
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Boy this app is causing some discussion. Running on HP Touchpad on cm9. Battery burns faster, but improvement outways that loss. Works for me.
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if you didnt happened to read the article, it only improves performance by continuously invoking all cores at the highest clock speed available on your kernel. this IS NOT a good thing.
" the app is forcing the CPU to stick to higher clock frequencies due to the constant I/O use. For many users, the processor running faster offers a smoother experience at the cost of your battery. As many users began to notice, Seeder was causing otherwise full day smartphones to die in four hours."
I read the article a few times. What I got from it is if constantly on, we will see a significant decrease in battery? So, can this decrease the life of the processor or is is it strictly related to battery performance? If just battery performance, I would give that up especially in the evenings when my phone is on a charger when I catch up on all the forums and rom development or searching websites that run videos or load alot of pictures. I can see not using while mobile but if I have a charger readily available I would run this as I am now and seeing significant differences.
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if you didnt happened to read the article, it only improves performance by continuously invoking all cores at the highest clock speed available on your kernel. this IS NOT a good thing.
" the app is forcing the CPU to stick to higher clock frequencies due to the constant I/O use. For many users, the processor running faster offers a smoother experience at the cost of your battery. As many users began to notice, Seeder was causing otherwise full day smartphones to die in four hours."
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So it lowers battery life and thus you say it is USELESS? How about those of us with spare batteries who want performance and don't care about lowered battery life? We want our rigs to scream and this mod seems to help.
Hardly useless. Better to update your OP to say, "If battery life is your number one consideration then this may not be the mod for you, but if you want to phone to run at it's fastest and don't care so much about battery life, you may enjoy this ..."
Users can turn it on when they have access to AC power and turn it off when they are going to be away from the juice for a while.
there are easier ways of boosting performance at the cost of battery life.
Performance governor does the trick just fine. (or setting min/max to the same clock speed.
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there are easier ways of boosting performance at the cost of battery life.
Performance governor does the trick just fine. (or setting min/max to the same clock speed.
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I already do all that. This mod makes it even faster for me.
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I already do all that. This mod makes it even faster for me.
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That's called the placebo effect. The app doesn't do anything beyond keeping your cpu at higher clock speeds.if you're already doing this, then is doing nothing for you.
Tapatalk is a network intensive application. Whatever performance gains you perceive, are likely due to network issues.
I think your quad core phone with 2gb of ram can handle tapatalk.
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That's called the placebo effect. The app doesn't do anything beyond keeping your cpu at higher clock speeds.if you're already doing this, then is doing nothing for you.
Tapatalk is a network intensive application. Whatever performance gains you perceive, are likely due to network issues.
I think your quad core phone with 2gb of ram can handle tapatalk.
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Please stop trying to tell me what I am experiencing and what I am not. I have been using smart phones for many years. I KNOW whether something is having a real effect or not.
I don't have the Seeder mod turn on by default. The other day after changing out my battery I opened Tapatalk and noticed that it was loading a half page of threads and then hanging. I turned the Seeder mod on and it immediately started loading the entire page. I turned it off and again it lagged.
There is NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that this mod is making at least certain apps run faster.
The all powerful experts don't say it doesn't work they just say it burns battery (which is fine with me). Please stop projecting your apparent obsession with battery life onto the rest of us.
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So it lowers battery life and thus you say it is USELESS? How about those of us with spare batteries who want performance and don't care about lowered battery life? We want our rigs to scream and this mod seems to help.
Hardly useless. Better to update your OP to say, "If battery life is your number one consideration then this may not be the mod for you, but if you want to phone to run at it's fastest and don't care so much about battery life, you may enjoy this ..."
Users can turn it on when they have access to AC power and turn it off when they are going to be away from the juice for a while.
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i say it is useless because it doesnt do anything you cant already do better. it's being marketed as if it is some new miracle program when it isnt. perseus at 1.8ghz w/ performance gov on will outperform this everyday, simply because the program is writing to your nand constantly, whereas, any kernel overclocked can do this without writing to nand. battery life wasnt really what i was talking about.
i pretty positive the continual writing/erasing of things from your nand is not a good thing and will significantly decrease the life of the emmc/nand on your phone as well as the life of your cpu.
I tried it and It works great on my one. I'm using icy snap 1.5 and it was little bit lagy but now 2x faster than before... :thumbup:
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I thought it was snake oil when I first saw it as well. Such a minor change would have been found long ago. Kinda like you won't see a minor tweak that anyone can do to fuel injectors that will improve gas mileage by 10mpg.
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I think I might slap a Vtec sticker on my phone. I'll see if it gives me a performance bump too.
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mitchellvii said:
Please stop trying to tell me what I am experiencing and what I am not. I have been using smart phones for many years. I KNOW whether something is having a real effect or not.
I don't have the Seeder mod turn on by default. The other day after changing out my battery I opened Tapatalk and noticed that it was loading a half page of threads and then hanging. I turned the Seeder mod on and it immediately started loading the entire page. I turned it off and again it lagged.
There is NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that this mod is making at least certain apps run faster.
The all powerful experts don't say it doesn't work they just say it burns battery (which is fine with me). Please stop projecting your apparent obsession with battery life onto the rest of us.
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Actually, you don't. Even the most experienced developers can't tell if their own applications are running faster specifically due to any one thing just by running them.
To make a causal connection, you not only need to do proper benchmarks, but also understand why.
The mod does have a side effect of keeping your clock speed higher, which can speed up your device...but if you said you've already set your governor to performance, then the mod is doing nothing for you.
And again, tapatalk is a network intensive application. Whatever improvement you see is much ado with network congestion that anything this mod can do.
...but c'mon, really though...tapatalk is your benchmark? My evo shift can handle tapatalk without lag.
Any lag you see in tapatalk is network related. And any improvement you see in tapatalk is network related.
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Oh well. I continue to be amused by the fact that individuals who are not in possession of my phone seem to know better how my phone is performing that I do.
Let me say it again. My phone JUST RUNS FASTER with this mod enabled. Period, end of sentence.
And you claim that SetCPU does exactly what this mod does if I set it at 1.8 performance? But you admit that this mod does it in a completely different way? So how do you know this doesn't add an extra benefit since it is doing something differently? You don't.
You keep talking about how tapatalk is network based and therefore this mod could have no effect. Did you consider that this mod may cause network data to be parsed faster and more efficiently? Image heavy web pages also load faster. The improvement is undeniable.
I promise you I will have sold or thrown away this phone long before the memory gets burned out.
Many many people feel this works for them yet you assume its all in our heads. Its not. Stick to your own head.
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The time I notice the most improvement is after I have been multitasking for a while. Without this mod I have noticed my GN2 kind of bogs down unless I clear memory. With this mod things seem to stay refreshed on their own.
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I'm convinced that by constantly having bowel movements that my toilet flushes faster.
mitchellvii said:
Oh well. I continue to be amused by the fact that individuals who are not in possession of my phone seem to know better how my phone is performing that I do.
Let me say it again. My phone JUST RUNS FASTER with this mod enabled. Period, end of sentence.
And you claim that SetCPU does exactly what this mod does if I set it at 1.8 performance? But you admit that this mod does it in a completely different way? So how do you know this doesn't add an extra benefit since it is doing something differently? You don't.
You keep talking about how tapatalk is network based and therefore this mod could have no effect. Did you consider that this mod may cause network data to be parsed faster and more efficiently? Image heavy web pages also load faster. The improvement is undeniable.
I promise you I will have sold or thrown away this phone long before the memory gets burned out.
Many many people feel this works for them yet you assume its all in our heads. Its not. Stick to your own head.
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The time I notice the most improvement is after I have been multitasking for a while. Without this mod I have noticed my GN2 kind of bogs down unless I clear memory. With this mod things seem to stay refreshed on their own.
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Because it doesn't. It didn't claim to do that. It claims to do one thing and thing only: it keeps /dev/random primed. Read the description of the app.
As a side effect, it keeps your clock "awake" and at a higher level. This is equivalent to switching to performance governor...but doing so in a manual way. (Less efficient way)
I think that's the problem with your over confidence. You are so sure that it's working...You don't even understand what the app does.
And the app definitely has no effect on memory management. Priming /dev/random will do nothing of the sort.
Also,You may not have noticed, I have the same phone as you. Of course, it's possible the app doesn't work for non-believers.
Yes, I know your next argument...it's not placebo because this makes things just seem faster.
I can't argue against that logic, but causality is definitely against you.
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