Hi guys,
its time to renew my mobile contract and I would like to have the HTC Desire.
But before getting it, I would like to ask a question.
At home, at university and at my friends home I have internet connection via Wifi, so I figered out I don't need a data option in my contract.
Now the T-Mobile guy told me I absolutely need one, because the cell phone connects with it to download updates.
In a youtube video I saw someone switching to wifi only at the welcome wizard after first power-on.
So, now my question: I'm really most of the time connected with wifi, do I really need data option????
I don't use social networks, so friends steam has no updates, same with the weather!!
Thanks for answers
Technically you don't need a data contract - you can switch off mobile internet and just rely on WiFi.
However, IMHO, if you're going to do that you're probably better off with a dumbphone and an iPod Touch, because you're really not using the phone as it was intended and you're going to get infinitely superior battery life.
Just an opinion - I appreciate that there are plenty of reasons why you might want the Desire regardless!
Regards,
Dave
Ok, thanks...
And yes, there are plenty of reasons.
Whats with vacation? E.g. when I go for two weeks out of my Wifi area?
Will it go online then or wait until I'm in Wifi again?
Btw: In my area there is only Edge available, so even if I wanted I can not use it as it was intended to!
Dennis
If you switch off mobile internet, it won't go online via the a cellular network.
If you want to be really, really, sure that it will never go online via cellular, you can delete the APN (i.e. you are worried you or someone else will turn on mobile internet accidentally).
Regards,
Dave
OK, that is a good idea.
I made that with my very old phone i bought 2003. There you had the option to set more than one APN profile. So i made up an empty one and made it the default one.
So I could switch to the real on in case I really need it.
Maybe you can tell my how to do this in android if you have time?
But thanks so far for your help.
Dennis
You can add the APN in the Phone settings. Not that different from WM
But I only use the Internet connection switch on my desktop.
I can simply switch it off and the phone will never connect to internet via GSM.
Unless someone messes with your phone and turns it on again it is a 100% guarantee that it will never connect via GSM.
I don't bother with APN anymore.
I don't know what happened, but I can no longer access MediaNet. I was using Wifi this morning without issue. I then turned off Wifi and tried to use Skyfire and kept getting "could not connect to isp.cingular" message. Go into settings and MediaNet is my selected network for both settings, so I don't know why programs are trying to connect through isp.cingular. When I go into the Connection Manager and try to manually turn on my data connection nothing happens. If I click on it to bring up the settings all I get is the ActiveSync dialogue (which is below Data Connection in TF3D settings). It appears that changing my connection settings is doing nothing, it is stuck on isp.cingular somewhere and ignoring the fact that MediaNet is selected. I am now without any data connection on my phone!!! I don't tether and I don't use MediaNet much, so I don't think AT$T wouyld have suddenly blocked me. Soft resets do nothing. I really don't want to do a hard reset and lose all my customizations and have to reinstall all my apps. What could be causing this?
Just spent 45 minutes on the phone with AT$T and after first trying to convince me that the issue was my not having a smartphone plan (I politely insisted they were wrong) they conceded that there is an outage problem in my area. Anyone else in SoCal having problems getting on MediaNet today?
Miami_Son said:
I don't know what happened, but I can no longer access MediaNet. I was using Wifi this morning without issue. I then turned off Wifi and tried to use Skyfire and kept getting "could not connect to isp.cingular" message. Go into settings and MediaNet is my selected network for both settings, so I don't know why programs are trying to connect through isp.cingular. When I go into the Connection Manager and try to manually turn on my data connection nothing happens. If I click on it to bring up the settings all I get is the ActiveSync dialogue (which is below Data Connection in TF3D settings). It appears that changing my connection settings is doing nothing, it is stuck on isp.cingular somewhere and ignoring the fact that MediaNet is selected. I am now without any data connection on my phone!!! I don't tether and I don't use MediaNet much, so I don't think AT$T wouyld have suddenly blocked me. Soft resets do nothing. I really don't want to do a hard reset and lose all my customizations and have to reinstall all my apps. What could be causing this?
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If it is trying to use isp.cingular for what ever reason... unless you are paying for a laptop connect plan, that access point name is turned off in your account. MEdia Net connection profile should be using the wap.cingular APN.
First check under the "network management" page. Where it says "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using" and make sure that is where you are seeing MEdia Net selected. If so, try the "restore proxy" cab in: Start/tools/Proxy Manager/Restore Proxy
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If it is trying to use isp.cingular for what ever reason... unless you are paying for a laptop connect plan, that access point name is turned off in your account. MEdia Net connection profile should be using the wap.cingular APN.
First check under the "network management" page. Where it says "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using" and make sure that is where you are seeing MEdia Net selected. If so, try the "restore proxy" cab in: Start/tools/Proxy Manager/Restore Proxy
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OK, I have the exact same issue as of last evening. I am in Miami with a 305 area code. My GPS, Google Maps, eMail are all down. However, I am able to use PIE to get to the internet. My settings are all correct. ATT suggests a hard reset on my device. I do not believe it is an issue with my device and am not going to do a hard reset so that ATT can figure out what is wrong on their end.
I have MediaNet selected in both drop-down boxes, but when I try to do something like update my weather tab or access the internet I get a connection error referring to isp.cingular or it is blank. I don't know how long it has been out because I have push internet disabled and I mostly use Wifi. I just happened to notice it was out this morning. I tried to update the weather tab in TF3D and kept getting connection errors. It did finally update after repeated tries, but not again since. If anyone else is experiencing problems with MediaNet please post your location.
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I have MediaNet selected in both drop-down boxes, but when I try to do something like update my weather tab or access the internet I get a connection error referring to isp.cingular or it is blank. I don't know how long it has been out because I have push internet disabled and I mostly use Wifi. I just happened to notice it was out this morning. I tried to update the weather tab in TF3D and kept getting connection errors. It did finally update after repeated tries, but not again since. If anyone else is experiencing problems with MediaNet please post your location.
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As I said in an earlier post, Miami (305) and having same problems over last 2 days.
My outage issue spontaneously resolved this morning. All data services on the device are now working again. ATT has no explanation but I knew that a hard reset was not going to be the answer.
No such luck for me, I'm afraid.
Oops.
Turns out I am still "down". Wierd thing though. If I have the phone plugged in to the USB at my office desktop, the communication and data issue goes away. If I unplug it, the problem is back.
I tried charging the phone from a wall jack and the data and communication problem still persisted.
This is very odd.
That's because when connected to a PC that has internet connection the phone uses it as a passthrough connection. I created a new connection on the phone using the wap.cingular access point and I have network connection again, but MediaNet is still a no go. AT$T is supposed to call me tonight to try and figure it out. Can't imagine I did anything to mess it up since MediaNet is a preconfigured connection and can not be changed/edited or even deleted.
OK, finally got the word on why I can no longer access MediaNet on my phone. Apparently, AT$T did some server upgrades recently and they now have the means to identify users on regular data plans who are now using smartphones and they block them. I have had a $15 a month unlimited data plan since February 2009 and have been using it first with an LG Incite and now with my Tilt 2, both smartphones. I originally did this by signing up for the data plan while my SIM was still in my RAZR. I guess in order to better serve their iPhone customers AT$T is now going after us casual users and screwing us out of our unlimited data plans by any means available. The joke's on them, though, as I can still access the network using the wap.cingular connection. Looks like I'll be switching providers when my contract is up in January.
Miami_Son said:
OK, finally got the word on why I can no longer access MediaNet on my phone. Apparently, AT$T did some server upgrades recently and they now have the means to identify users on regular data plans who are now using smartphones and they block them. I have had a $15 a month unlimited data plan since February 2009 and have been using it first with an LG Incite and now with my Tilt 2, both smartphones. I originally did this by signing up for the data plan while my SIM was still in my RAZR. I guess in order to better serve their iPhone customers AT$T is now going after us casual users and screwing us out of our unlimited data plans by any means available. The joke's on them, though, as I can still access the network using the wap.cingular connection. Looks like I'll be switching providers when my contract is up in January.
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Well, that ain't my deal and I don't think it is yours either. With my sons phone I did the same thing as you describe but when ATT discovered it they just charged me full price for the data plan.
In my situation, I spent another hour on the phone with ATT today and they finally kicked me to HTC technical support. HTC is telling me to do a master reset on my phone and just to reinstall my apps and programs. I really don't want to do it but I am not sure I have a choice, unless someone has a better idea.
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Well, that ain't my deal and I don't think it is yours either. With my sons phone I did the same thing as you describe but when ATT discovered it they just charged me full price for the data plan.
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AT$T can not change any part of your plan without your consent, period. You have a contract and they would be violating it by changing any terms without your permission. This would allow you to cancel your contract without having to pay any early termination fees.
Let me know if a hard reset fixes your problem. I may do it just to see if it fixes mine. What a freaking hassle, though.
whatever the problem is, both ATT and HTC are recommending a hard reset. I am not happy about it but I may have no choice.
DLTempler said:
whatever the problem is, both ATT and HTC are recommending a hard reset. I am not happy about it but I may have no choice.
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I'm tempted to do the same just to see if it works. I can't believe they suddenly cut me off from MediaNet, but not wap.cingular. I think Tech Support is full of it.
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I'm tempted to do the same just to see if it works. I can't believe they suddenly cut me off from MediaNet, but not wap.cingular. I think Tech Support is full of it.
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Define what you mean by MEdiaNet? Because he MEdiaNet section of at&t's service (IE, the MEdiaNet home page) is only accessible via the wap.cingular APN and proxy enabled.
Sounds more like the proxy is not enabled on your phone, IMO.
well, I did check my proxy and the phone was still giving me data issues.
I cleared the phone and went back to factory settings. I reinstalled GoogleMaps and my pop email. Both worked fine!
I then did a full restore from backup. My problem was back. Although I did not make any changes prior to the phone faulting, something that is installed is interferring with the phones data connections and I will have to eliminate one app at a time to see which it is.
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well, I did check my proxy and the phone was still giving me data issues.
I cleared the phone and went back to factory settings. I reinstalled GoogleMaps and my pop email. Both worked fine!
I then did a full restore from backup. My problem was back. Although I did not make any changes prior to the phone faulting, something that is installed is interferring with the phones data connections and I will have to eliminate one app at a time to see which it is.
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How did you 'check' the proxy settings? And of course, all you did was restore the problem with a backup of corrupted settings.
I may be wrong, but I don't think an app caused this problem.
Well, the proxy was checked with ATT Tech Assistance on the phone. Didn't do anything.
I am now selectively adding apps. I restored my PIM so my contacts and appointments are all back. When I added Pocket Internet Explorer there was a problem and so I removed it. Problem resolved. Just added Skyfire and seems ok. I have added back my SPB stuff (PP, Weather, Wallet, BackUp, MS), GoogleMaps. I don't have any more time to dcik around with this so I am calling it a day and will play with it a bit more over the next couple of days to see if I can narrow down the problem.
Miami_Son said:
OK, finally got the word on why I can no longer access MediaNet on my phone. Apparently, AT$T did some server upgrades recently and they now have the means to identify users on regular data plans who are now using smartphones and they block them. I have had a $15 a month unlimited data plan since February 2009 and have been using it first with an LG Incite and now with my Tilt 2, both smartphones. I originally did this by signing up for the data plan while my SIM was still in my RAZR. I guess in order to better serve their iPhone customers AT$T is now going after us casual users and screwing us out of our unlimited data plans by any means available. The joke's on them, though, as I can still access the network using the wap.cingular connection. Looks like I'll be switching providers when my contract is up in January.
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just so you know, if you have ANY of your other phones that is NOT a smart phone, you can have them make that your primary phone using the IMEI number on that phone. Then it wont matter what phone you put your sim card in, because the plan rates will have to go by the phones IMEI number they have on file as your PRIMARY phone. I have gone through many supervisors with AT&T, and they confirm (without actually saying so) that as long as they have an IMEI number listed on the account that is NOT a smart phone, then they cannot make you change your data plan. Just FYI. They tried to do it to me, and I made them put my plan back, and it was a grandfathered plan, so it was a little bit of a pain, but I have a old plan, that has earlier nights and weekends, unlimited data, unlimited text, etc, all on a family plan. They thought they were slick, but Im smarter than that.
Hi, its my first post on the Z1C forum.
I just got one yesterday to replace my Nexus 5 and am accounting a few things I need help with since I am new to the xperia line of phones.
So my phone looks like this (for data) however I can't browse anything. I have mobile data enabled, national roaming and preferred network being 4G but nothing is working. With my Nexus 5 my data just worked so I am unsure why this is happening here. I can send texts and make calls just fine. Phone is on lolipop 5.0.2
The wifi signal in my room is terrible and its constantly dropping and when that happens I can't do anything with it.
I am on tesco mobile with a 2GB 4G plan.
http://imgur.com/GBhJJEW
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Edit: So I looked around I went into mobile network and scanned, found tesco and registered. So I have 3G data now, but 4G isn't registering. Maybe I need to phone up Tesco and ask them.
Or maybe it's just not a 4G mast where you're connecting?
Is problem "no mobile data at all" or "no LTE connection" ?
Can you transfer data on 3G?
If so - check twice if your SIM card is LTE compatible.
I had to adjust the APN on my phone when I first got it as the one it autodetected wasnt correct. Try that out.
Hi so i just got a z1c and this happened to me. I could send and get text/calls even get notifications and updates. I called sony and t-mobile, nether could help me. Then i found a option under "more" in settings to update "Internet settings" find your server and hit ok. Try it out, i hope this helps.
In my case I needed to contact my carrier to enable 4G. Tried it?
Not sent by me.
settings.>>other>>>internet settings>>>download internet and mms settings...
this should do the trick...
Inconsistent Connection
I got my Z1C a few days ago and updated it to Lollipop yesterday. Ever since the update, the phone has been dropping data connection. I don't know what's the initial cause yet but as it stands, in order to get it working again I have to take out the SIM and reinsert it multiple times. I'm watching it carefully tho because it seems to happen whenever I start Candy Crush. Is there anybody else having this experience?