Hi guys,
its time to renew my mobile contract and I would like to have the HTC Desire.
But before getting it, I would like to ask a question.
At home, at university and at my friends home I have internet connection via Wifi, so I figered out I don't need a data option in my contract.
Now the T-Mobile guy told me I absolutely need one, because the cell phone connects with it to download updates.
In a youtube video I saw someone switching to wifi only at the welcome wizard after first power-on.
So, now my question: I'm really most of the time connected with wifi, do I really need data option????
I don't use social networks, so friends steam has no updates, same with the weather!!
Thanks for answers
Technically you don't need a data contract - you can switch off mobile internet and just rely on WiFi.
However, IMHO, if you're going to do that you're probably better off with a dumbphone and an iPod Touch, because you're really not using the phone as it was intended and you're going to get infinitely superior battery life.
Just an opinion - I appreciate that there are plenty of reasons why you might want the Desire regardless!
Regards,
Dave
Ok, thanks...
And yes, there are plenty of reasons.
Whats with vacation? E.g. when I go for two weeks out of my Wifi area?
Will it go online then or wait until I'm in Wifi again?
Btw: In my area there is only Edge available, so even if I wanted I can not use it as it was intended to!
Dennis
If you switch off mobile internet, it won't go online via the a cellular network.
If you want to be really, really, sure that it will never go online via cellular, you can delete the APN (i.e. you are worried you or someone else will turn on mobile internet accidentally).
Regards,
Dave
OK, that is a good idea.
I made that with my very old phone i bought 2003. There you had the option to set more than one APN profile. So i made up an empty one and made it the default one.
So I could switch to the real on in case I really need it.
Maybe you can tell my how to do this in android if you have time?
But thanks so far for your help.
Dennis
You can add the APN in the Phone settings. Not that different from WM
But I only use the Internet connection switch on my desktop.
I can simply switch it off and the phone will never connect to internet via GSM.
Unless someone messes with your phone and turns it on again it is a 100% guarantee that it will never connect via GSM.
I don't bother with APN anymore.
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OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG ! ****, I HATE ROGERS !!!!
352 $ DATA CHARGES ON MY ACCOUNT...!
i swear i'm so ****in pissed at this point...i have the new HTC s621 and all these days the internet i've been using is ROGERS DATA, and i thought it was wi-fi - i always connected to wi-fi....guys, if it does say it's connecting to wi-fi and if it can't connect - it connects to the rogers data network without you knowing :S - that's ****ing ********. CALL ROGERS NOW AND TELL THEM YOU DIDN'T KNOW, YOU WERE UNAWARE, AND YOUR VERY DISAPPOINTED AND FRUSTRATED.A
i swear, you have no idea how pissed off i am...this is a ripoff - all these days i was connecting to free wi-fi points but guess what? that's not "FREE" it's rogers internet all this time :S - atleast some kinda notification or warning would be good. i swear, such a bunch of liars...i spoke to this girl in the data dept. and she said i can't do anything as of now because your bill's not registered yet. she blocked the internet access, though so that in future i don't get charged but they should have warned me before, i had no clue - i was going through the posts when i saw someone post a link about how somone got 1600 $ charges. anyway, i'm gonna call back the moment my bill comes...
rogers is LYING TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, OVERCHARGING CUSTOMERS, MAKING FALSE PROMISES AS WELL AS NOT PROVIDING ANY VITAL INFORMATION...i'm sick and tired of this ********. everything with them is getting messed....guys, please be AWARE if any of you have SMART PHONES OR BLACK BERRY'S - be careful, especially if you have wi-fi, you might want to get rogers data serviced blocked.
p.s: WHY SHOULD ANYONE PAY FOR SOMETHING THEY AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF? honestly speaking, rogers defaulted the GPRS?EDGE option on the s621 so it connects to rogers internet without your permission - that's just WRONG on every level - that's like tresspassing onto someone's property and getting charged for it while you thought your on a public property....seriously, think about it guys - i'm waiting for my bill to come so i can get them to credit me that charge, i ain't paying a penny - otherwise i'll cancel everything with them.
i hope you can get the charges removed if you didnt know you were being charged. the real problem is that you do not know how to use your phone. i have had several versions of the phone you are using, as well as several others that have similar capabilities and i have yet to have this kind of a problem. read your manual and learn what the indicators mean that run accross the top of your screen. it will show you when you are attached to a wifi network and when you are connecting to a wifi network. if you are surfing the net without a wifi network these icons will not be present. there is also a speed difference in downloading info. learn to protect yourself, bro.
i am not pro rogers, either. i spent 55min on the phone with them last night trying to adjust my plan and it should only have been a 15 min conversation. i am aware of how difficult they can be to deal with but the problem you are having is not really their fault
You should familiarize yourself with the device, and how to tell when it's connected to WiFi. For one thing, if it's not WiFi, it's a heck of a lot slower than when it is. For another, your homescreen shows when you're connected to an access point, as does the iconbar up top.
its annoying there is no way to disable gprs and keep the settings stored. most of the time I delete the gprs settings then if i ever want to use it i just add the account in. I'm on vodafone so its simply internet for the ap and web/web user pass. Pretty easy to type in when ever you need to. Basically if you see the 2 arrows where the signal icon usually is, you will be being billed.
I have to agree... I mean you should easily notice the difference between wifi and grps...
i have to admit - i just bought this phone on the weekend and i got a basic data plan ($15CDN) through Rogers for the times I will not have wi-fi access. So I am sitting at work conncted to WiFi (there are 4 valid hotspots in my office ) - I am conncted to one (I know because it says so) HOWEVER, the E is still displayed over the signal strength indicator telling me that EDGE is in use even though I am connected to a Wi-Fi...I am so confused. So I went to the Rogers site to try and check my usage but no joy there as there was no information ... even my phone upgrade charge has not yet appeared...can someone a little more knowledgeable on this unit please confirm whats happening either way? I mean - even if you are connected to WiFi will E appear since technically it is available - however not being used since it should be over-ridden by the availability of WiFi?
You should call Rogers...
enroh said:
i have to admit - i just bought this phone on the weekend and i got a basic data plan ($15CDN) through Rogers for the times I will not have wi-fi access. So I am sitting at work conncted to WiFi (there are 4 valid hotspots in my office ) - I am conncted to one (I know because it says so) HOWEVER, the E is still displayed over the signal strength indicator telling me that EDGE is in use even though I am connected to a Wi-Fi...I am so confused. So I went to the Rogers site to try and check my usage but no joy there as there was no information ... even my phone upgrade charge has not yet appeared...can someone a little more knowledgeable on this unit please confirm whats happening either way? I mean - even if you are connected to WiFi will E appear since technically it is available - however not being used since it should be over-ridden by the availability of WiFi?
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Ok if you see the little E logo over the signal that doesn't always mean your using GPRS because if I send a picture message it will stay on all day and night but it doesn't use it.
Easy way to find out is to just go into your comm manager and look for the data transfer... if its "lit up" then it's on, all you have to do is click it to turn it off manually.
Rogers is not to blame, but rather HTC. I have the same issue with my Titan/Mogul on Telus. Even if you shut down your EVDO/EDGE connection through Comm Manager, it will reconnect. There should be an option to set priority to WiFi when a hotspot connection is established, but there isn't and that's an awful feature.
I'm around a WiFi connection most of the time so the solution to this is to delete the wireless profile. Fortunately Telus doesn't require user names and passwords to connect so it's just a matter of having it dial #777 to establish a connection when needed.
Its a shame dude. I have a 200 meg plan so I am covered for data.
BUT I still use a GPRS data tracker to keep an eye on hwo much data I use. A well spent $US7.95 - dont try using a pirated version of these, as the DASH/S620/S621 uses a different .DLL than that is supplied in the pirate version. Just pay the $$ to save some $$
I use this for added assurance:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/gprsmonitor/?en
Spb GPRS Monitor
Spb GPRS Monitor is a complete solution for measuring the amounts of data transfers via your GPRS, CDMA or GSM network connection and calculating network usage costs. Spb GPRS Monitor monitors all data transfers you perform and calculates the cost of your GPRS usage taking into account your service plan details: inclusive data amount, data block size. etc.
# Taskbar icon that shows GPRS connection speed and other indicators
# Pop-up window that shows all GPRS information
# Warning notifications on daily/monthly traffic limits
# Detailed connection usage and cost charts
# Detailed text reports of your connection usage and cost
# Export to CSV for use with Microsoft® Excel and Access
# 440+ pre-defined service plans
# Today plug-in that shows GPRS speed and other statistics
# Skin format interface
Oh man this site is the best. There is a tool in this thread that allows you to toggle your provider's data connection on/off and contrary to HTC's Conn Manager, it keeps it off
Working like a charm on my Mogul !
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I use this for added assurance:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/gprsmonitor/?en
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This is for Pocket PCs. They have a special Smartphone version but that does not run properly on WM5 on my S620: I can not make any changes in the preferences because there is no "OK/done etc" button to press once I've chosen new settings.
Rogers is owned, run and supported by a bunch of idiots. Anyway I got one of those bills once and now everything else than voice is blocked. Goddamned retards!
But since we're in Canada, that's still the best available option.
BTW It took me over a month to get a TyTN from them. They lost packages, orders, didn't know who I was, kept me on the phone for hours and much more. It's not over yet, since we're not sure if we are going to pay the right price.
when i had my treo 680 my friend opened yahoo sports on my pda (auto refreshes) and i didnt know he did that. i never knew internet was open so i didnt bother with it. got a 300$ phone bill cuz for internet. they were nice enough to wave it off. just call them and be really nice and polite. i dont see why they wont do the same for u.
i canceled data on my account so its not possible to anyone to use data on it anymore thank god
Rogers
I got the same problem as you but i did not pay anthing when i told them thats was by mistake and you can disactivate Rogers data dawnload without any problems to be more sure in the future.
I disabled my GPRS on my s621 by going to the connections and changing the settings for that account (I removed the m form internet.com so it says internet.co). This way if I loose my wifi it cant switch to GPRS. If I absolutely need GPRS I just go and change it back. You can test it by stopping wifi and opening IE and trying to connect to a site. You should get an error message.
As for the original post on this thread:
defaulting the grps/edge option on the S621 is like trespassing? I don't think so. You're buying a windows smartphone and the whole point is to use data on the device - why wouldn't they have that option programmed in and turned on? Everyone would complain that they can't use data on a phone that they purchased specifically for that purpose - gimme a break. I know the phone has wifi, but its of course going to have the means to connect to the cell phone network for data usage as well, use your brain a little.
Anyways, I do agree that there should be a better indicator or a pop-up of some sort that comes up when wifi drops out and gprs/edge kicks in - but it should be user beware either way when it comes to data charges.
Easiest and best solution is yeah, delete out the profile or block it from the provider side. It sucks though if you really need to use data on the cell network for an emergency and you have to redo the settings.
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OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG ! ****, I HATE ROGERS !!!!
352 $ DATA CHARGES ON MY ACCOUNT...!
i swear i'm so ****in pissed at this point...i have the new HTC s621 and all these days the internet i've been using is ROGERS DATA, and i thought it was wi-fi - i always connected to wi-fi....guys, if it does say it's connecting to wi-fi and if it can't connect - it connects to the rogers data network without you knowing :S - that's ****ing ********. CALL ROGERS NOW AND TELL THEM YOU DIDN'T KNOW, YOU WERE UNAWARE, AND YOUR VERY DISAPPOINTED AND FRUSTRATED.A
i swear, you have no idea how pissed off i am...this is a ripoff - all these days i was connecting to free wi-fi points but guess what? that's not "FREE" it's rogers internet all this time :S - atleast some kinda notification or warning would be good. i swear, such a bunch of liars...i spoke to this girl in the data dept. and she said i can't do anything as of now because your bill's not registered yet. she blocked the internet access, though so that in future i don't get charged but they should have warned me before, i had no clue - i was going through the posts when i saw someone post a link about how somone got 1600 $ charges. anyway, i'm gonna call back the moment my bill comes...
rogers is LYING TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, OVERCHARGING CUSTOMERS, MAKING FALSE PROMISES AS WELL AS NOT PROVIDING ANY VITAL INFORMATION...i'm sick and tired of this ********. everything with them is getting messed....guys, please be AWARE if any of you have SMART PHONES OR BLACK BERRY'S - be careful, especially if you have wi-fi, you might want to get rogers data serviced blocked.
p.s: WHY SHOULD ANYONE PAY FOR SOMETHING THEY AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF? honestly speaking, rogers defaulted the GPRS?EDGE option on the s621 so it connects to rogers internet without your permission - that's just WRONG on every level - that's like tresspassing onto someone's property and getting charged for it while you thought your on a public property....seriously, think about it guys - i'm waiting for my bill to come so i can get them to credit me that charge, i ain't paying a penny - otherwise i'll cancel everything with them.
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lol, it's always funny when people like to blame everyone but themselves for their own ignorance.
Rogers did not program the software, HTC did.
Rogers did NOT tell you not to read your manual did they?
Your phone tells you what type of connection you are using you just need to know how to use your phone.
If you call up Rogers and tell them you thought you were using WiFi and ask NICELY (Don't go off half cocked like you did above) they Will remove the charges.
enroh said:
i have to admit - i just bought this phone on the weekend and i got a basic data plan ($15CDN) through Rogers for the times I will not have wi-fi access. So I am sitting at work conncted to WiFi (there are 4 valid hotspots in my office ) - I am conncted to one (I know because it says so) HOWEVER, the E is still displayed over the signal strength indicator telling me that EDGE is in use even though I am connected to a Wi-Fi...I am so confused. So I went to the Rogers site to try and check my usage but no joy there as there was no information ... even my phone upgrade charge has not yet appeared...can someone a little more knowledgeable on this unit please confirm whats happening either way? I mean - even if you are connected to WiFi will E appear since technically it is available - however not being used since it should be over-ridden by the availability of WiFi?
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You were not properly informed of data plans. You should cancel your $15 / 1.5MB data plan and get the $10 / 10MB mobile internet plan instead. Plus you get 33% off of a mobile internet plan, but not a data plan, if you have and value pack (ie, call display & voicemail) so it would actually only be $6.67
Is there a way to do this for the SX66? My internet no longer works since AT&T changed their networks. In order to get internet access again, I was told I needed a new phone *and* new SIM card. Can't afford a new phone right now, so...
I've been reading that there may be a program out there that can allow you to override your phone's settings so that it will *only* search and use WiFi. My phone always looks for GPRS, no matter what I do, so I have been without Internet for some time now.
Can anyone point in the right direction for the correct program for a BA?
Many thanks!
Debbie
Hi there,
Maybe I haven't searched in the right area's, but I certainly have had a look around and couldn't find anything to match my exact issue.
I've just purchased an HTC Desire from Telstra in Australia, but I'm based in New Zealand and so didn't want or need all of the built in Telstra stuff so I rooted the device and installed the HTC official Froyo build for the device.
All worked perfectly and the upgrade was successful and all I needed to do was to add 2 APN's, one for mobile data and one for MMS.
Now they connect up perfectly when I manually connect them, but if I open up Internet for example, I'd have expected it to automatically connect up to 3G data if no wireless is available but it doesn't it just says no connection.
The mobile data APN is set as the default and has a green selection next to it when I look at them.
Am I missing something ?? I'm an Android newbie so please excuse this if it's something obvious and I'm being dumb !
Geeeez I'd have expected someone to have been able to answer what I'm sure is such a simple feature / expectation.
All my previous windows mobile devices just hooked up with WIFI if available and 3G if not, I didn't have to manually connect. As soon as a program needed access to 3G it just hooked up and did what it needed.
One thing I was hoping for in Android was that it would hook up as the windows mobile did, but would switch itself off if it wasn't used for a while......... something Windows Mobile didn't do so it would go flat pretty quick if you had it checking the web on a regular basis as it would just leave the 3G connection running even though there was no data flowing.
Come on people.......... do other peoples Android devices hook up automatically when required ??? or am I just expecting too much ?
canman said:
Come on people.......... do other peoples Android devices hook up automatically when required ??? or am I just expecting too much ?
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Yes it does. Other than turning mobile internet off and on, I'm not even certain how you would "manually connect"?
Regards,
Dave
canman your Desire ought to automatically grab the APN settings with a SIM card installed, when you power it up. Failing that, once you manually enter correct settings it should automatically use those. There is no "manual connection" I know of, just enter the APN settings, or verify they are correct, and you never have to do this again. Double-check that the settings are correct. Also, if you are using wifi turn that off until you are sure that your mobile data is working ok. If you have done everything correctly and you are getting error messages, the phone is defective and should be returned.
I don't know what happened, but I can no longer access MediaNet. I was using Wifi this morning without issue. I then turned off Wifi and tried to use Skyfire and kept getting "could not connect to isp.cingular" message. Go into settings and MediaNet is my selected network for both settings, so I don't know why programs are trying to connect through isp.cingular. When I go into the Connection Manager and try to manually turn on my data connection nothing happens. If I click on it to bring up the settings all I get is the ActiveSync dialogue (which is below Data Connection in TF3D settings). It appears that changing my connection settings is doing nothing, it is stuck on isp.cingular somewhere and ignoring the fact that MediaNet is selected. I am now without any data connection on my phone!!! I don't tether and I don't use MediaNet much, so I don't think AT$T wouyld have suddenly blocked me. Soft resets do nothing. I really don't want to do a hard reset and lose all my customizations and have to reinstall all my apps. What could be causing this?
Just spent 45 minutes on the phone with AT$T and after first trying to convince me that the issue was my not having a smartphone plan (I politely insisted they were wrong) they conceded that there is an outage problem in my area. Anyone else in SoCal having problems getting on MediaNet today?
Miami_Son said:
I don't know what happened, but I can no longer access MediaNet. I was using Wifi this morning without issue. I then turned off Wifi and tried to use Skyfire and kept getting "could not connect to isp.cingular" message. Go into settings and MediaNet is my selected network for both settings, so I don't know why programs are trying to connect through isp.cingular. When I go into the Connection Manager and try to manually turn on my data connection nothing happens. If I click on it to bring up the settings all I get is the ActiveSync dialogue (which is below Data Connection in TF3D settings). It appears that changing my connection settings is doing nothing, it is stuck on isp.cingular somewhere and ignoring the fact that MediaNet is selected. I am now without any data connection on my phone!!! I don't tether and I don't use MediaNet much, so I don't think AT$T wouyld have suddenly blocked me. Soft resets do nothing. I really don't want to do a hard reset and lose all my customizations and have to reinstall all my apps. What could be causing this?
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If it is trying to use isp.cingular for what ever reason... unless you are paying for a laptop connect plan, that access point name is turned off in your account. MEdia Net connection profile should be using the wap.cingular APN.
First check under the "network management" page. Where it says "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using" and make sure that is where you are seeing MEdia Net selected. If so, try the "restore proxy" cab in: Start/tools/Proxy Manager/Restore Proxy
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If it is trying to use isp.cingular for what ever reason... unless you are paying for a laptop connect plan, that access point name is turned off in your account. MEdia Net connection profile should be using the wap.cingular APN.
First check under the "network management" page. Where it says "Programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using" and make sure that is where you are seeing MEdia Net selected. If so, try the "restore proxy" cab in: Start/tools/Proxy Manager/Restore Proxy
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OK, I have the exact same issue as of last evening. I am in Miami with a 305 area code. My GPS, Google Maps, eMail are all down. However, I am able to use PIE to get to the internet. My settings are all correct. ATT suggests a hard reset on my device. I do not believe it is an issue with my device and am not going to do a hard reset so that ATT can figure out what is wrong on their end.
I have MediaNet selected in both drop-down boxes, but when I try to do something like update my weather tab or access the internet I get a connection error referring to isp.cingular or it is blank. I don't know how long it has been out because I have push internet disabled and I mostly use Wifi. I just happened to notice it was out this morning. I tried to update the weather tab in TF3D and kept getting connection errors. It did finally update after repeated tries, but not again since. If anyone else is experiencing problems with MediaNet please post your location.
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I have MediaNet selected in both drop-down boxes, but when I try to do something like update my weather tab or access the internet I get a connection error referring to isp.cingular or it is blank. I don't know how long it has been out because I have push internet disabled and I mostly use Wifi. I just happened to notice it was out this morning. I tried to update the weather tab in TF3D and kept getting connection errors. It did finally update after repeated tries, but not again since. If anyone else is experiencing problems with MediaNet please post your location.
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As I said in an earlier post, Miami (305) and having same problems over last 2 days.
My outage issue spontaneously resolved this morning. All data services on the device are now working again. ATT has no explanation but I knew that a hard reset was not going to be the answer.
No such luck for me, I'm afraid.
Oops.
Turns out I am still "down". Wierd thing though. If I have the phone plugged in to the USB at my office desktop, the communication and data issue goes away. If I unplug it, the problem is back.
I tried charging the phone from a wall jack and the data and communication problem still persisted.
This is very odd.
That's because when connected to a PC that has internet connection the phone uses it as a passthrough connection. I created a new connection on the phone using the wap.cingular access point and I have network connection again, but MediaNet is still a no go. AT$T is supposed to call me tonight to try and figure it out. Can't imagine I did anything to mess it up since MediaNet is a preconfigured connection and can not be changed/edited or even deleted.
OK, finally got the word on why I can no longer access MediaNet on my phone. Apparently, AT$T did some server upgrades recently and they now have the means to identify users on regular data plans who are now using smartphones and they block them. I have had a $15 a month unlimited data plan since February 2009 and have been using it first with an LG Incite and now with my Tilt 2, both smartphones. I originally did this by signing up for the data plan while my SIM was still in my RAZR. I guess in order to better serve their iPhone customers AT$T is now going after us casual users and screwing us out of our unlimited data plans by any means available. The joke's on them, though, as I can still access the network using the wap.cingular connection. Looks like I'll be switching providers when my contract is up in January.
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OK, finally got the word on why I can no longer access MediaNet on my phone. Apparently, AT$T did some server upgrades recently and they now have the means to identify users on regular data plans who are now using smartphones and they block them. I have had a $15 a month unlimited data plan since February 2009 and have been using it first with an LG Incite and now with my Tilt 2, both smartphones. I originally did this by signing up for the data plan while my SIM was still in my RAZR. I guess in order to better serve their iPhone customers AT$T is now going after us casual users and screwing us out of our unlimited data plans by any means available. The joke's on them, though, as I can still access the network using the wap.cingular connection. Looks like I'll be switching providers when my contract is up in January.
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Well, that ain't my deal and I don't think it is yours either. With my sons phone I did the same thing as you describe but when ATT discovered it they just charged me full price for the data plan.
In my situation, I spent another hour on the phone with ATT today and they finally kicked me to HTC technical support. HTC is telling me to do a master reset on my phone and just to reinstall my apps and programs. I really don't want to do it but I am not sure I have a choice, unless someone has a better idea.
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Well, that ain't my deal and I don't think it is yours either. With my sons phone I did the same thing as you describe but when ATT discovered it they just charged me full price for the data plan.
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AT$T can not change any part of your plan without your consent, period. You have a contract and they would be violating it by changing any terms without your permission. This would allow you to cancel your contract without having to pay any early termination fees.
Let me know if a hard reset fixes your problem. I may do it just to see if it fixes mine. What a freaking hassle, though.
whatever the problem is, both ATT and HTC are recommending a hard reset. I am not happy about it but I may have no choice.
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whatever the problem is, both ATT and HTC are recommending a hard reset. I am not happy about it but I may have no choice.
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I'm tempted to do the same just to see if it works. I can't believe they suddenly cut me off from MediaNet, but not wap.cingular. I think Tech Support is full of it.
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I'm tempted to do the same just to see if it works. I can't believe they suddenly cut me off from MediaNet, but not wap.cingular. I think Tech Support is full of it.
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Define what you mean by MEdiaNet? Because he MEdiaNet section of at&t's service (IE, the MEdiaNet home page) is only accessible via the wap.cingular APN and proxy enabled.
Sounds more like the proxy is not enabled on your phone, IMO.
well, I did check my proxy and the phone was still giving me data issues.
I cleared the phone and went back to factory settings. I reinstalled GoogleMaps and my pop email. Both worked fine!
I then did a full restore from backup. My problem was back. Although I did not make any changes prior to the phone faulting, something that is installed is interferring with the phones data connections and I will have to eliminate one app at a time to see which it is.
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well, I did check my proxy and the phone was still giving me data issues.
I cleared the phone and went back to factory settings. I reinstalled GoogleMaps and my pop email. Both worked fine!
I then did a full restore from backup. My problem was back. Although I did not make any changes prior to the phone faulting, something that is installed is interferring with the phones data connections and I will have to eliminate one app at a time to see which it is.
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How did you 'check' the proxy settings? And of course, all you did was restore the problem with a backup of corrupted settings.
I may be wrong, but I don't think an app caused this problem.
Well, the proxy was checked with ATT Tech Assistance on the phone. Didn't do anything.
I am now selectively adding apps. I restored my PIM so my contacts and appointments are all back. When I added Pocket Internet Explorer there was a problem and so I removed it. Problem resolved. Just added Skyfire and seems ok. I have added back my SPB stuff (PP, Weather, Wallet, BackUp, MS), GoogleMaps. I don't have any more time to dcik around with this so I am calling it a day and will play with it a bit more over the next couple of days to see if I can narrow down the problem.
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OK, finally got the word on why I can no longer access MediaNet on my phone. Apparently, AT$T did some server upgrades recently and they now have the means to identify users on regular data plans who are now using smartphones and they block them. I have had a $15 a month unlimited data plan since February 2009 and have been using it first with an LG Incite and now with my Tilt 2, both smartphones. I originally did this by signing up for the data plan while my SIM was still in my RAZR. I guess in order to better serve their iPhone customers AT$T is now going after us casual users and screwing us out of our unlimited data plans by any means available. The joke's on them, though, as I can still access the network using the wap.cingular connection. Looks like I'll be switching providers when my contract is up in January.
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just so you know, if you have ANY of your other phones that is NOT a smart phone, you can have them make that your primary phone using the IMEI number on that phone. Then it wont matter what phone you put your sim card in, because the plan rates will have to go by the phones IMEI number they have on file as your PRIMARY phone. I have gone through many supervisors with AT&T, and they confirm (without actually saying so) that as long as they have an IMEI number listed on the account that is NOT a smart phone, then they cannot make you change your data plan. Just FYI. They tried to do it to me, and I made them put my plan back, and it was a grandfathered plan, so it was a little bit of a pain, but I have a old plan, that has earlier nights and weekends, unlimited data, unlimited text, etc, all on a family plan. They thought they were slick, but Im smarter than that.
On the note 8 even with Verizon factory build we could turn off data, turn on hotspot, turn on data...and the mobile hotspot worked.
Tries it on the note 10 and it didn't seem to work.
Anyone figure out how to turn it on?
I have T-mo FW and hotspot/USB tethering is under settings/connections as usual, if it doesn't show up there, most likely Verizon took it out. One of many reasons I got rid of them and got T-mo.
After seeing your post it reminded me I not tested it out on my Note 10. I just tested with my Samsung UK Note 10 and options were in a similar place as the Note 9.
I went to Settings, Connections, Mobile Hotspot and Tethering, turned on Mobile Hotspot and then was able to join my Mobile Hotspot with my windows devices and browse the web.
I Just seen pete4k and he is right it could be Verizon removed it as an option in their firmware. Some still might prefer not allowing their customers that ability.
To be clear. I never actually signed up for Hotspot with verizon. The trick I laid out in my op was a way to turn it on without paying for it.
Interesting.....
when I turn it on in settings, it says "authentication error"....then it just turns on.
I think when I did the phone sync from my old phone it remembered those settings and is able to use them.
Problem solved.
Thanks for giving me the idea to try it.
cheers!
How petty if you're Telco limits the hotspot sharing in the firmware...
They are happy to sell the plan and hardware but want to tell you how to use it?
That's like the power company telling you what appliances are allowed to be used in your home...
Personally, I'd find another Telco unless the pros far outweigh the cons...