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I've searched for answers to these questions and I'm sure they exist but with how busy this forum is, it's tough to find answers. Sorry if these have been asked and answered. AT&T at my house has become nearly unusable at times so I'm considering trying Sprint. Having a Captivate and an unusable GPS (and no interest in a physical keyboard) I'm leaning towards the EVO.
1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly? Captivate is my first Android phone so I've never tried...
1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
Pretty difficult. 99 times out of 100 if you screw something up, there is a way to fix it.
2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
Absolutely. It's really easy to do too. Search the development forum, there is a thread there that details how to do it.
3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
I do not have a way to compare, but I put a fresh battery in my EVO yesterday morning, used it moderately throughout the day and still have 40% battery life.
4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
Not sure. I don't ever plug it in to charge, I use a spare battery charger. I have 5 batteries so when one dies, I put a fresh one in.
5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly? Captivate is my first Android phone so I've never tried...
I'd imagine it would work fine. i used Titanium to restore a ****load of my own apps (free ones, of course) onto my buddy's phone and it worked fine. I would stay away from trying to restore the system data though.
evancg said:
1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
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It isn't easy to brick the Evo, but it isn't as brick proof as the captivate.
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2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
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Much easier than the Captivate, in my opinion (odin sucks). I had to unroot my wife's Captivate recently because she was having the random shut down issue. After dinking around with Odin for way to long I finally ended up nandroid restoring her original stock jf6, through clockwork, that I made immediately after rooting, and then using one click unroot.
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3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
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My Evo seems to get slightly better battery life (Running Fresh 3.3.0.1) than my wife's Captivate does with rooted JF6. That said, I have had my Evo for 3 months and have learned how to set it up to get best battery life, whereas with my wife's Cappy, I only dink with it when she is having a problem. I suspect that if I worked with her phone a bit the battery life could be a bit better than the Evo.
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4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
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We both charge our phones at night, so I can't say which takes longer, but my Evo takes about 1-2 hours to get full charge from less than 10% left.
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5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly?
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I don't know, I have copied some apps between our phones, but always installed them manually. My guess is TB might work for some apps and not for others. I personally wouldn't do it that way.
Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Maybe because it's Saturday. I'm surprised they haven't jumped on you for posting this in this section. None of the roms that are gingerbread will have the life you had on 2.2 unless the code gets released and the guys that make kernels can make new ones. Battery life on the roms vary but if it means alot you should try Calkulin's rom. He has an undervolting script built in that may work for you. If you flash a kernel from the 2.2 roms you might get better battery life but something will break in the rom, ie camera.
Awesome development work dude!!!!!! Cant wait to try it out. Where's the download link??
My first idea would be posting in the correct section, or, it sucks that Skype and battery life blow on this rom you developed.
Since that is over, are you wiping properly with a formatall.zip? Are you making sure to flash the correct kernels with the corresponding rom? Are you restoring any data with titanium backup?
Move this to the q&a and you will get the information you are looking for.
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I thought you had to have 10 posts before you could post in the dev section?
simple answer - skype though awesome also sucks.
for example just think about a laptop. my 7 hr macbook pro dies in under 2 hrs when i'm video or phone chatting on skype... shouldn't the same be expected for a cell? you're getting 3 hours, albeit only chatting as you say, but skype has been and remains a highly demanding application which although is convenient and widely used IMO is poorly written considering it's cpu and battery drainage. compared to simple web based google chat w/ video I get far superior battery life. like i said, my opinion, my experience. and yes as mentioned, try undervolting or SBC kernels or both. My EVO has ranged from stock settings 5 hr life to deck's w/ tiamat sbc + vipermod approx 40 hours (the 40 was when it was honestly just idle most of the time, occasional call or text a little bit of browsing, i was sick so on laptop mostly- although typical moderate daily use I would still be above 20% before plug in before sleep)
as long as you mentioned it, anyone happen to know a stable skype apk with video that was pulled? i've tried different sources and a bunch of my usual roms and I either get only back camera for a little then crashing or front camera green fuzziness and crash instantly.
Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
OP created his/her account before the 10 post restriction went into effect. The change was not retroactive.
tango is cool....i also use ClearSea...it's got the pc support so you can video chat between cell and pc...works pretty nice over 3g...
just an idea....
Decks 1.2.1 stable ROM in "advanced settings" in settings go to performance, go to VM heap set to 48
Savaged Zen 2.2.1 cfs SBC kernel
Battery calibration (market app) follow in app instructions
Setcpu (market app) my settings are 1152 Max 245 min savagedzen governor
Download rom manager and run fix permissions
Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
I get great battery life. I get upwards of 20 hours easy and I use my phone heavily so, hopefully this will help
Next time please post your questions in the q and a section, dev is for someone who has something they have developed for the community to use. Thanks
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You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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+1. It's easy to screw up when you've been up all night downloading and flashing the newest versions of your favorite ROMs or desperately seeking the answers you need. No need to grab your torches once the first 14 people have cried "wrong section" (most of whom then offer advice afterward, enabling much?)
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Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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I have a better question:
Why is it that someone felt it necessary to bump a post that clearly was ignored by everyone and put on the second or third page just to flame someone?
This thread went unnoticed with no replies for over an hour and yet someone felt that necessary.
That **** is just as bad as posting in the wrong section, if not worse.
i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
Check out my sig, AOSP setup would probably help you with battery life. Current radios too
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Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
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First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
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Thanks for the tip. I wasn't directing the 10 post mark at you btw, more at moderators/XDA in general. My first account was locked for "spamming" I presume to get 10 posts whereas I actually spent hours answering ppl's questions in the q & a but I guess the short time frame wasn't liked. But I digress, I'm not so in need for cell to cell as much as a nice universal cell to cell/desktop cross platform and unfortunately skype is the most popular. My girlfriend as well as many friends/relatives also don't have the latest phones so the cell to desktop is wanted. for now I'm just sticking to gtalk, with isn't without it's errors either.
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
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... Kernel to set meaning it takes a bit for it to settle down to the way it will normally function, call it "breaking it in" or like how you gotta drive a car a few thousand miles before your performance and MPG are where the manufacturer claims itll be... Yeah I kinda like the second analogy, go me!
Frequent flashing or flashing too soon sort of doesn't give the rom or kernel a chance because they haven't stabilized, often why some people praise while at the same time others curse a rom/kernel. Myself included :/ yikes. I found that to be true when deck was held up on his updates for almost a week and my phone was amazing, but I updated and went back into the loop of constant flashing so keep that in mind, if you're set on giving s rom and kernel a shot, give it at least a few days of the kind of use you NORMALLY would. If you're playing with it all day and it dies don't call it shotty battery life until you keep it in your pocket most of the day during the week. Not trying to berate anyone, I've done these same things myself, patience is a virtue after all.
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i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
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lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
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lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
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Well then the issue lies with the network not your Rom
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Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing the problems.. what are ypur thoughts
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
Lol, no.
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I feel the same way... I'm getting serious battery loss after flashing a few of these roms.. with stock Rom I was getting a good 20 hours moderate use.. now with custom roms I'm getting like 10 hourz... I'm In noway knocking on any devs.. I do appreciate everyones contribution... I think it's a lil still early in the galaxy development
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Mine ran great fresh out the box for sure, but thats also because it was fresh and had no apps installed etc lol.
Some roms seem to work better than others. Running Starbust 1.2 with zedo's 4.1 kernel and it's running absolutely great now, better than unrooted IMO.
Could be grass in greener on the other side syndrome, try unrooting and see if you still feel that it runs better stock. With ODIN it's pretty quick and easy to jump back from rooted to not and back again.
I will always be rooted because I love trying out new things and custom roms and overclocking/undervolting etc.. it's fun, like a hobby for sure. And sometimes that hobby especially with beta stuff isnt that stable lol!
Just having adfree and wifi tethering is more than enough reason for me to root. But when the really cool custom roms start coming out, it's gunna be on like donkey kong
I did run a rooted rom with the stock kernel, and I have to say I like zedo's better.
My 2 cents
jok3sta said:
Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing t runninghe problems.. what are ypur thoughts
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Source?
My stock-rooted E4GT is working just fine. No LoS, no random reboots, no freezing up, no locking up... no bloat, great battery life, no BS.
I had a ton of issues with LOS and some random reboots on Zedomax's root kernel. Flashed to the stock + CMR and havent had an issue since.
I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
I'm stock with root, and it runs smoother than when I was on oc kernel
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I agree that LOS is not caused by rooted kernal. But, I did experience LOS alot more often than stock kernal. When I got the phone I stayed unrooted for a little over a week. I experienced 2 LOS during that time period. Once I finally rooted I was experiencing LOS @ least 3 times a day. LOS also drains the battery like crazy. One night I left the phone off the charger with 100% battery life. When I woke up, the phone was in LOS and only had 40% battery life. Well, today last night I finally switched to stock kernal. So far today no LOS.
I digress. Stock rom works perfect but I needed so mods that require root. The battery percent mod, wireless tether, and roam control. I think I'll wait for an AOSP rom before I try anything different roms.
I've tried all the currently available kernals for ths phone. I've rooted and unrooted. Right now, i'm on stock rooted. I'm still experiencing LOS, but it seems less frequent than when I was on custom kernals. It could be other criteria, though. I haven't tried any of the ROMs, only because I want a stock ROM to flash, if something goes wrong. I don't remember the epic taking this long to get the stock ROM available to us. My memory may be slipping, though.
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jok3sta said:
Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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Stop whining!
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Stop whining!
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Not really sure where you see whining. But I do see a clown who has nothing better to do that reply to my "whining". thanks for the post bump though. Now back on topic.. lets keep this sucka free please
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this is why I will wait another week or 2 before rooting....this phone is awe sum as stock, but, like any newly released phone, it takes a few weeks before all the truly revolutionary stuff gets developed.
Most devs have a real job, a family, and a real life, so you can't really expect flashing "nirvana" only a week or so after a phone comes out.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
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Same mentality here my man. It's either rooted... Overclocked.... Or supercharged. I like things over the top lol. Heck even my gas powered scooters and rc cars are souped up. Sorry.... Back on target.
Samsung Galaxy S II
I'm stock since day 1, when the phone first released, and I get LOS once a day. It's killing me not to have root, but I am not modding unless there is a factory RUU available straight from Samsung. Personally, and to no discredit to the developers, I don't trust the stock rom pulled from another phone. This phone is just a bit too new for me to be permanently altering it without a 100% safe way back. The OG Epic was made almost unbrickable, so it's reasonable to assume that a year from now, we will be rolling like pigs in **** with cool stuff to flash.
But I get what you are saying, and honestly, the community did not explode like I thought it would. Seems to be more HTC fans these days then Samsung, and just judging from Samsung's post launch support, or lack thereof, I can understand why...
Furthermore, my 3G speeds were horrible day 1 and continue to suck balls. Most times at work I can't even browse the market because of timeouts. 4G seems to work good though, and that's the only reason I haven't just returned this phone yet.
Check this thread:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/76962?start=0&tstart=0
This is sprint's official forum, and they are just now admitting to the crappy radio implementation on this phone. Should have seen this coming a mile away, but honestly I was just too busy looking at this gorgeous 4.52" AMOLED+ screen to notice...
This is the first phone I've had were I don't feel the need to root, and I wouldn't have rooted until it had been perfected more.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!
my main reason for rooting was a few apps i had that needed root. as well as the battery percentage
It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!
monkeybone12 said:
It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!
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You might want to look into QBKing77's videos, it'll probably help you out a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6B97247164921053&feature=plcp
Also, if you go into the development section and look around a bit, you'll be able to find useful things, as well as answers to questions you may have, quite quickly.
Hope it helps, and enjoy this awesome phone!
monkeybone12 said:
It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!
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Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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I use Touch Recovery and I have no issues at all..
Mark.J.Linskiy said:
You might want to look into QBKing77's videos, it'll probably help you out a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6B97247164921053&feature=plcp
Also, if you go into the development section and look around a bit, you'll be able to find useful things, as well as answers to questions you may have, quite quickly.
Hope it helps, and enjoy this awesome phone!
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Thanks a bunch! Been looking through the wiki and development. Looking like some great Devs on this phone!
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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Using Touch Recovery on my Evo4G, LOVE IT!
Thanks for the heads up on the auto root method, sounds up my alley coming from revolutionary and unr3voked.
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Thanks a bunch! Been looking through the wiki and development. Looking like some great Devs on this phone!
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No problem.
There are definitely great Developers on this phone.
My personal favorite ROM is by Rujelus22, he also just released a Beta Kernel with Touch Recovery.
Good Luck!
the "Touch Recovery" as long as you use one that is baked into a kernel is fine (ie rogue Hitman Kernel) Part of the issue at least with everything I've been reading is that when people use the "TEMP" touch (from say the clockwork app in market that allow a "temporary" touch recovery to be put in place) is when a lot of people have had issues. I use the Hitman repack and I've yet to experience any issues with it ever.
As for rooting the phone I do it the tried and true way always with Odin. I kept a Stock EG30 (what this phone came with at launch) Odin restore on my computer with sfhub's auto root. It takes a few longer to do a root process (I do believe that sf made a EG30 auto root that comes in Odin form Odin that and you have root with busybox and superuser)
Like I said I just go about it differently. That's how I root my friends phones and they don't mind the few extra minutes or so that it takes cause once it's done they have a phone always in 100% working order and ready to go.
Touch recovery bricks when you try to come back to GB from ics through cwm.
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globalninja said:
Touch recovery bricks when you try to come back to GB from ics through cwm.
Sent from my Epic™ 4G Touch
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Thanks for the heads up.
cidica said:
the "Touch Recovery" as long as you use one that is baked into a kernel is fine (ie rogue Hitman Kernel) Part of the issue at least with everything I've been reading is that when people use the "TEMP" touch (from say the clockwork app in market that allow a "temporary" touch recovery to be put in place) is when a lot of people have had issues. I use the Hitman repack and I've yet to experience any issues with it ever.
As for rooting the phone I do it the tried and true way always with Odin. I kept a Stock EG30 (what this phone came with at launch) Odin restore on my computer with sfhub's auto root. It takes a few longer to do a root process (I do believe that sf made a EG30 auto root that comes in Odin form Odin that and you have root with busybox and superuser)
Like I said I just go about it differently. That's how I root my friends phones and they don't mind the few extra minutes or so that it takes cause once it's done they have a phone always in 100% working order and ready to go.
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I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?
monkeybone12 said:
I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?
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there is a counter in the bootloader. After a non standard ROM is flashed, the counter is triggered and you get the "triangle of shame" that let's service people know you've flashed a ROM on your phone / voided your warranty. A USB jig can reset the triangle and the counter. you can get 'em on Amazon, Ebay, or you can make a jug for next to nothing...
Good luck and welcome to the fold! You're gonna love it!
P.S. I'm a firm proponent of the 4.0 Blazer ROM. Buttery smooth fast and great battery life... (FB15 modem)
Achristocat said:
there is a counter in the bootloader. After a non standard ROM is flashed, the counter is triggered and you get the "triangle of shame" that let's service people know you've flashed a ROM on your phone / voided your warranty. A USB jig can reset the triangle and the counter. you can get 'em on Amazon, Ebay, or you can make a jug for next to nothing...
Good luck and welcome to the fold! You're gonna love it!
P.S. I'm a firm proponent of the 4.0 Blazer ROM. Buttery smooth fast and great battery life... (FB15 modem)
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Oh, THAT'S ALL? Lol... I was thinking it was something different.
It should be here in a matter of 12-16 hours... Freaking stoked. Thanks for the Rom recommendation! Looking to try a few off of the bat. MIUI has always been one of my faves, but 4.0 Blazer will be flashed too!
I came from the evo too this phone was a little confusing at first but a little reading and it makes sense real quick ive settled on team nocturnals dark ics blend rom with stock kernel and fb21 modem and im getting about 6-8hrs screen on time
Edit: im at 10hrs 36mins on battery 8hrs 46mins screen on been trying to see how long it would last me with heavy use today been browsing xda most of the time and my display is 83% battery use cuz i have my brightness at about 80%
Edit 2: i forgot to mention im at 46% battery left on stock 1800 battery as well with that usage rediculous compared to my evo that was 3500 battery times for me my 1800 in my evo would be dead at 8 hrs screen on
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I'm gonna throw this out there and hopefully prevent some bad things, I am a lurker who reads a TON. I am gonna strongly caution you against using touch recovery. Far too many phones have been getting bricked lately. Also, don't pay too much attention to modems or odin at first, eventually you'll get curious and go for it, but it's not really necessary for most things. If you are gonna go for odin, I'd suggest buying the mobile odin app from the market. Very handy app.
But be warned, stay away from touch recovery for now. Wait for the kinks to be ironed out.
monkeybone12 said:
I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?
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look up qbking77 on youtube, he has great videos for this phone including the 1-click method to root this phone. Also, I believe buying a jigg will reset the counter on odin
Freeroot said:
I'm gonna throw this out there and hopefully prevent some bad things, I am a lurker who reads a TON. I am gonna strongly caution you against using touch recovery. Far too many phones have been getting bricked lately. Also, don't pay too much attention to modems or odin at first, eventually you'll get curious and go for it, but it's not really necessary for most things. If you are gonna go for odin, I'd suggest buying the mobile odin app from the market. Very handy app.
But be warned, stay away from touch recovery for now. Wait for the kinks to be ironed out.
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Thanks for the advice. Not falling on deaf ears.
Snagged up mobile odin BTW, looks pretty slick!
DAMN.... THAT was easy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I came from the evo too this phone was a little confusing at first but a little reading and it makes sense real quick ive settled on team nocturnals dark ics blend rom with stock kernel and fb21 modem and im getting about 6-8hrs screen on time
Edit: im at 10hrs 36mins on battery 8hrs 46mins screen on been trying to see how long it would last me with heavy use today been browsing xda most of the time and my display is 83% battery use cuz i have my brightness at about 80%
Edit 2: i forgot to mention im at 46% battery left on stock 1800 battery as well with that usage rediculous compared to my evo that was 3500 battery times for me my 1800 in my evo would be dead at 8 hrs screen on
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I heard BATT life was outstanding on this little devil. Let's hope!
I ended up almost 15 hrs onbattery with close to 12 hrs screen on when i plugged in at18% last night
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First off the evo was officially released in june 2010. Only a few months till we are wishing our evo happy third birthday. Oh I have heard a rumor floating around that the Og Evo is one of the most active devices on XDA.
I have been a member here for a few years. I started with the cricket zio. Then the Og Evo, a 3vo for my girlfriend at the time, and then I fell victim to a boot loop of death. So back to my old a$$ Samsung Messenger II (I had already given the zio to my son as a music/media/911 device) till I could pick up another evo. Found a bad esn hybrid black front/white back og with no battery and seller stated vibration did not work. For $40 shipping paid. Thankfully I didn't sell my 3500 mA extended battery or mid-grade otter box case when I sold my first evo on ebay for $80. Remember it had bootloop of death and also a bad esn.
With some of our phones actually being three years old there are bound to be cataclysmic failures showing up. Over the past few weeks I have noticed a common problem spread out over the massive selection of roms we have. There was nothing really that the roms shared except for the fact that just this one person, never the same one that I can remember, would have this STATUS 7 ERROR during the flash causing the installer to abort. The first couple of times it came up I just passed it over as some wierd error due to something completely different than the real problem.
The following is from a the cm7 unchained thread.
Well with these problems popping up I have been thinking about implementing an old trick. You know about changing partion sizes. We can enlarge the boot and system partions and reduce the data size. We then use a2sd to make up for what we used on the other two. Now all I need to do is add the adjustment to the installer-script.
Although there is a side effect of this. When a different kernel is flashed it will not know how to read the partions. So then the user has to flash another script to change the partion parameters in the new kernel.
Now to shine a light on what the issue is that is causing what seems to be a random problem. The evo has been around since June 2010 and is getting old. The more recovery logs I see the more bad blocks I see. The memory only has so many write cycles before it burns out.
Now with all rom flashing we do just takes another write cycle from the evos life. If we start digging further into the lives of our users we will notice two groups with issues. The older phones (from '10 or '11) and the addicted flashers/developers. Both of which have used up some of their lives testing and flashing.
True be told we can bandaid the evos memory with symlinks to the sdext till we only have the files needed to symlink everything else to the sdext. Only problem will be the transfer rate of sdcard.
Hope this was enlightening and informative. Also if you have not noticed I am working on the TNN Rom toolbox which will help everyone in finding a solving the problems as they pop up.
The thread is in general discussion but only gives highlights of what will be coming. I still have to write the install script to copy logcat automatically to the TNN folder and create a md5sum of the rom flashed. Now I will have to add in the partion adjustments and make a kernel fix script so different kernels can be flashed.
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness
Extra power for my development
Well I have recently lost my job which is why I have been able to get all the roms out so quickly and with very few if any bugs.
Then on a few days ago PlatinumPenguin tells me that he has a 3vo sitting unused in his desk drawer. He states that the Og Evo just sounds so much better than the 3vo on his headphones. Long story short he is packing up the 3vo and giving it to me. Talk about a nice guy. So I will move to the 3vo as my phone with service and have the Og completely free for developing purposes.
Then yesterday my buddy tells me that he has an Inspire that his wife wants to put back on att. The problem is that he dropped it and shattered the screen. Then got upset about it and threw it at the wall damaging the power button and volume keys. No power button no phone right. Well it just so happens that I know a trick or two. He hands me the phone and started to walk away. I quickly do my trick and power up the phone before he gets a few feet away. I tell him to watch this phone boot up. Trick is you take the battery out, connect the charger to phone and wall, and then reinsert the battery. B.I.N.G.O. Houston we have lift off.
Now he offers me his bad esn evo with shattered screen if I can replace the screen and get the buttons working on the Inspire. For those unfamiliar with the Inspire it is part of the evo family. It was an att phone almost exactly like the Thunderbolt except it has no ffc.
Now I have two Og Evo's to use for development purposes. Now I can flash two roms at the same time First I have to root the two new to me evos and an Inspire.
Then maybe I can get the TNN Toolbox written up on post 1. With a collection of other tips and tricks for our evo on post two.
Umm time to hit the rooting section of all three phone. It has been awhile since I have done the Og (hw003 latest update from sprint installed Nov '11) the second evo came rooted. I did the 3vo back around august of last year. It took me some time to figure out exactly how to do it. I didn't use the wire trick which had just come out for the 3vo.
Anyways stay tuned for more innovations from Team No Name. They will be coming to a server near you soon. Long live the Evo. Even if we end up running 90% of our roms from a symlinked sdext. Heck who needs internal storage anyways.
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Re: The State of the elderly Evo Hopefully help will be on the way.
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Look forward to this. Count me in to assist where I can. Still noobish as far as development but pretty savvy in regards to understanding how this works and a quick learner.
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Re: The State of the elderly Evo Hopefully help will be on the way.
Oh wow I just powered up this bone stock evo 4.67.651.3. I am going to do a timed boot comparison but it sure looks like the stock one takes twice as long to boot.
It is kind of mind blowing to think that there really is that much difference between a stock and modded phone. They are both hw004 so I can use all my nands on both phones. Oh just so you know I had already booted my newly acquired evo a few time before I started both at the same time. No cheating since both already had a dc made.
Re: The State of the elderly Evo Hopefully help will be on the way.
This is almost like finding out my old EVO has cancer and the more I flash it the more the cancer spreads.
I've had my OG Evo since December 2010 (still stock and unrooted). I recently BOYD'd it over to Ting and bought my wife a used OG Evo off of Glyde. Hers I rooted (my first root ever) without issue and am running MBQsniper's Triple S. I am planning to root my device once I get all the bugs worked out of hers, get SMS copied over, etc.
So, needless to say, I've recommitted to the OG Evo at least until Sprint (and therefore Ting) kills wimax and maybe longer. I'm glad there are people around that are much more knowledgable than I that are still paying attention to this device. It's also funny how everyone seems to be from Texas...
jlmancuso said:
The evo has been around since June 2010 and is getting old. The more recovery logs I see the more bad blocks I see. The memory only has so many write cycles before it burns out.
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If this is the point you are making the thread title camouflages it somewhat. But it's a very good point.
Can I add another important point regarding the advanced age of our "elderly" Evos?
Batteries also decline with age.
There was a recent discussion around here about buying a replacement battery, which size, which brand, blah blah.
If you are replacing an original launch day stock battery that has been through hundreds of charge/discharge cycles, I can guarantee the details of your replacement battery do not matter as long as it is new.
I had been using a replacement battery for a while and just for the hell of it put in my original battery a week ago. After calibrating and letting it go through a few cycles, I was completely blown away by how bad the battery life was. Same ROM, same usage pattern, just went back to the old battery. I just ended a 13 minute call and watched my battery go from 50 to 15. What is that, 40 minutes of talk time on a full charge? No one would sell a mobile phone like that (not today, not three years ago, 1986 or ever).
So all you people inheriting old Evos (or trying to find new life for your own vintage Evos), please, before you clutter up ROM development threads with comments on battery life, REPLACE YOUR FREAKIN BATTERY FIRST.
Now if they could just "recondition" the non-replaceable flash memory to get rid of those bad blocks..
NxNW said:
If this is the point you are making the thread title camouflages it somewhat. But it's a very good point.
Can I add another important point regarding the advanced age of our "elderly" Evos?
Batteries also decline with age.
There was a recent discussion around here about buying a replacement battery, which size, which brand, blah blah.
If you are replacing an original launch day stock battery that has been through hundreds of charge/discharge cycles, I can guarantee the details of your replacement battery do not matter as long as it is new.
I had been using a replacement battery for a while and just for the hell of it put in my original battery a week ago. After calibrating and letting it go through a few cycles, I was completely blown away by how bad the battery life was. Same ROM, same usage pattern, just went back to the old battery. I just ended a 13 minute call and watched my battery go from 50 to 15. What is that, 40 minutes of talk time on a full charge? No one would sell a mobile phone like that (not today, not three years ago, 1986 or ever).
So all you people inheriting old Evos (or trying to find new life for your own vintage Evos), please, before you clutter up ROM development threads with comments on battery life, REPLACE YOUR FREAKIN BATTERY FIRST.
Now if they could just "recondition" the non-replaceable flash memory to get rid of those bad blocks..
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True that. I had to go back to my original battery and it's stupid how bad battery life is.
As for the bad blocks, funny how 2 years ago, we believed you could write/re-write millions of times with no ill effects
Looks like you've been doing your homework brother,this looks to be promising.
Well actually most of the partition adjusting is old stuff. I just have to find a way to change the boot size. They were doing this back in the hero days.
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I am getting a status 7 error. Sucks, I loved my OG Evo
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Status 7 error is a fail on installing boot image. I suggest removing the lines in the installer script for the boot.img and flashing a kernel separate. The use of a smaller kernel may solve the issue.
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Write cycles for NAND chips are in the order of 10k. Do we have fruity modders surpassing this number?!?
Wild!
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Well lets look at it this way. 10,000 writes over 3 years (oldest evo) over 365 days and we have 9.13 writes a day. So while a 10k life sounds long it is over quicker than you think.
Hope this helped shine some light on the subject.
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