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Anyone getting random reboots on their stock/unrooted E4GTs?

Everything has been perfect with this phone except now I've had two reboots in the past two days and I'm considering swapping it for a new handset (could be indicative of a larger problem). Yesterday it rebooted when I was browsing the internet, it had 70% battery before the reboot and then the phone was reporting 15% right after. I did a battery pull and it came up to 40% after. Weird. Anyone else have any issues like this?
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No issues here. Phone works flawlessly for me under heavy use.
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never happened to me either...fully stock, never rooted
If it happens to you again, if you are within the return window, you may want to exchange it

Yep... watch this youtube.com/watch?v=8pMLxyThxEk
what a piece. And sprint is no help. Not in person. Not "Dan Hesse's Office"

That doesn't sound right at all. I haven't had a single one..not even when messing around overclocked to 1.6
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Happened to me every time I tried to uninstall/go into parts of the phone. Happened a Month ago, dida format stock...all okay like nothing happened.
-jr
Ps, it was after phone got easy too hot using hdmi out for over 3 hours...I believe the phone was well above the 125°, as o could not touch it.
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Never had the problem when it was stock...if anything, it did drain the battery a bit. But that's expected.

tubasteve said:
Happened to me every time I tried to uninstall/go into parts of the phone. Happened a Month ago, dida format stock...all okay like nothing happened.
-jr
Ps, it was after phone got easy too hot using hdmi out for over 3 hours...I believe the phone was well above the 125°, as o could not touch it.
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I have been told that the phone will shut itself down to prevent heat damage.
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I havent had a single one since I posted this thread. I'm thinking it was a fluke. My phone runs like a champ now, especially since I rooted and used autostarts and titanium to get all the bloat under control.

Wait... people on here that don't root? I'm confused...

subcypher said:
Wait... people on here that don't root? I'm confused...
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At the time I posted this thread I was still waiting for a way to root my current ROM, with no flashing involved. With all the problems that people were having with LOS I didn't want to risk flashing a new kernel and potentially starting to get LOS when I never had it before. I still haven't had a single one and I got this phone on release day

Well, thanks to a FUBAR with the CIQ removal script and no backup, I moved away from stock. I'm now running Calkulin's and haven't had any LOS or random reboots. At least, that's what I'm running while I patiently wait for CM9. That being said, I recommend it.

subcypher said:
Well, thanks to a FUBAR with the CIQ removal script and no backup, I moved away from stock. I'm now running Calkulin's and haven't had any LOS or random reboots. At least, that's what I'm running while I patiently wait for CM9. That being said, I recommend it.
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Yeah I had the same FUBAR lol. I ended up using odin to go the EG31 route. I really feel no desire to go with a custom ROM. Back in the EVO days the stock ROM was always so bloated even with just Sense that you HAD to go custom to get any performance or decent battery life out of it. The stock ROM on our E4GTs just blazes and is damn near perfect already. The only thing left for me to do is get rid of CiQ and then it will be absolutely perfect. I have the odexed version of the noCiQ mod waiting to be flashed but I'm 1000 miles from home for the next few weeks and can't risk screwing up my phone. I only brought my macbook with me so using odin in case of a fowl up is not an option right now.

_MetalHead_ said:
Yeah I had the same FUBAR lol. I ended up using odin to go the EG31 route. I really feel no desire to go with a custom ROM. Back in the EVO days the stock ROM was always so bloated even with just Sense that you HAD to go custom to get any performance or decent battery life out of it. The stock ROM on our E4GTs just blazes and is damn near perfect already. The only thing left for me to do is get rid of CiQ and then it will be absolutely perfect. I have the odexed version of the noCiQ mod waiting to be flashed but I'm 1000 miles from home for the next few weeks and can't risk screwing up my phone. I only brought my macbook with me so using odin in case of a fowl up is not an option right now.
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I know what you mean, man. But once you're rooted and have Clockwork on there, you can do Nandroid backups and flash right from your SD card! But, hey, safe journeys.

subcypher said:
I know what you mean, man. But once you're rooted and have Clockwork on there, you can do Nandroid backups and flash right from your SD card! But, hey, safe journeys.
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Oh I'm aware. I still do nandroids just in case now but honestly, stock ROM+removed bloat + autostarts is awesome.
I used to be flash happy when I had my EVO, I flashed new ROMs all the time (and always ended up back at MIUI). With my E4GT I just want it to work with no problems and I'm happy.

I'm stock too. I did the whole flash everything under the sun with my evolution and evo 3d and other phones. Ill root and flash when cm9 is stable. I had one radom reboot once but I think it was an app issue.
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Rooting...good idea or bad??

So im thinkin to root my phone what u guys think should I?? What are the perks of doin it as well??
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Rooting is up to u man. If u want to do it. As far asks what u get it depends on what u flash. If u just want root then u have access to your /system partition. Use apps that require root permission. With a custom recovery U can flash custom kernels for overclock and undervolt purpose. You can flash custom ROMs.
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I would say no right now, to be honest.
I had a ton of troubles finding the right downloads to get it rooted. In the end, I rooted and installed Starburst and wasn't really impressed; I feel like there was nothing to even be able to edit. It was like running the stock ROM with a new lockscreen.
I'd hold off until development increases on this device. I'm probably going to unroot mine.

rooting is lots of fun, IF you know what the hell you are doing, BEFORE you start the process
Most problems that people have come from NOT READING and learning about it before they do it..
Just like anything else in life, if you don't read about it, and learn about it BEFORE you decide to do it, you will have problems.
It just blows my mind how many people get a phone, and root it and start flashing stuff without having any idea what they are doing, and then freak out when some thing goes wrong, and post frantic "please help me" stuff all over the internet..
Take the time to learn about it BEFORE you do it, and ask your questions BEFORE you start messing with your phone..If you won't do that, can't do that, or aren't smart enough to understand what you are reading, then don't root; this is a fantastic phone even if you never root it..

I was pessimistic aswell and took the plunge last night. Running Starburst its not the greatest but MUCH better than stock. Battery life is ludicrous. And much more fluid and responsive... My main reason was battery life and oh boy dose it help!
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See I rooted my evo 4g and I mean I liked it for the fact that I could do hella roms and I could overclock it cuz my friends had updated newer phones and just blowing me out the water with speed so I did it it was nice now in just stuck with this one cuz im not sure if its smart right now to do ya know
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Starbust rom does not come with theme. U have to apply it urself. There are alot of themes out there. SB its main point is to save battery and it did a great job.if u like to customize, remove bloatwares or tweak ur phone, root ur phone.
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I like viperom
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You can always reverse a root. it makes your phone even more functional than it already is.
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I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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ipetloudog said:
I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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THE root method will be the same.

Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.

Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.

saj1jr said:
Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
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Phone is pretty new you may get lucky and there are not enough refurbs out there to give you back a new one
Shimmy808 said:
Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
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I agree its totally up to the person but not like rooting and then unrooting is you difficult.... Hey may favorite line I have read in xda is "It aint yours till you root it" - words to live by....lol

Rooting is pretty easy on this phone, but I know there are not a lot of Devs compared to like the Evo 3d. The Devs we do have are all like pros at developing though, so they will be able to update and bring new things frequently. I rooted on Starburst's rom and I love it, because it's so Stock that it seems like its still and E4GT, but so different that I know its more smooth.

So im sewing u guys all like this starburst rom....I think I will wait lil bit longer to root when more roms comes out
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Convince me to root!

So far I have zero complaints about this phone, there are some ui things I would like fixed, and I know can be fixed via rooting, but they just don't seem to be enough to push me over the edge. I have files downloaded and ready to go, but just can't seem to take the plunge. I thought I had my first los today, but the phone recovered as soon as I was back in signal(if it hadn't that would have done it).
So why should I root?
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You can always revert back to the stock kernel if you have an issue (or have them that frequently that you can't stand it). Anybody who thinks that once you root there is no way to go back is an idiot. "lol, I got no LOS then I rooted and even though I put stock kernel back its all [email protected] lol" not true.
I got 2 LOS in the first week stock...rooted...got a bit more than usual, but nothing crazy. Flashed stock kernel back, still rooted, didn't have another for a few weeks until I flashed a new kernel...flashed back, have had none...etc etc etc, YMMV, but, umm, I don't think you have anything to be afraid of. Just know what you are doing...don't just flash stuff and figure it out later. Know why you want something and how to 'put it back'...also having/making a USB jig would be a good idea, but not necessary.
You can get them for like $3 on amazon or build one with a microUSB cable and $1 worth of stuff from radioshack.
I don't know about you but I certainly didn't get this phone to NOT mod it.

I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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flyboy1100 said:
I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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The only thing I can tell you is that read the directions and understand ODIN for all of the ODIN stuff you do. That is one of the ways you can brick the fnck out of this phone...not paying attention in ODIN. Don't write a partition if you are not told to...and try to only use it to flash a kernel+CWM and flash everything else from CWM if and when possible.
If you aren't worried about LOS (and it is real and under the right circumstances it'll effect every phone...reboot...no big deal...if it is flash a pulled stock kernel) then go for it.
I haven't tried ViperROM on this phone yet, but, I can tell you from my time with the E3D that kid knows what he's doin'....I'm sure this ROM is no different and I've heard nothing but great things about the LoST kernel.

If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Tell us how it goes. You won't be disappointed.
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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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Someone convince me to strangle my puppy. I love him and all and he is very well mannered but if you guys can talk me into strangling him, I will.

ravizzle said:
If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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I agree. You root cause u want to. If u want someone to convince u then maybe u shouldn't.
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I don't understand why some people view this almost like losing their virginity, trying a drug or robbing a liquor store. It's a very well understood technical process with very specific pros and cons that are also very well understood.

Yep. First android phone for me, and I bought it with the full intention of making it MY phone. After all, they are basically an additional limb for most people, no? (I'd say if you're registered with xda that is most likely the case! ) So you might as well go balls to the walls, right? If you're not into that kind of thing, then keep it stock! This phone is AMAZING just sitting at the home screen...it looks awesome! It is a great piece of technology, with plenty of great features and capability, and will serve you very well whether its rooted or not. Good luck with whatever you do!

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If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Not looking for pressure. I will probably root it tomorrow or next week
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Because all the cool kids are doing it!
I broke down and did it yesterday when someone said viper ROM solved his app freezing due to using a ton of CPU usage bug. So far, so good.
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OP if you are on EG30 baseband could you extract the modem.bin file for us so we could test it?

I would just stay stock. Honestly, no offense to the developers, but there is just nothing substantial out there. If you want a couple of different themes, you could consider rooting, but other than that every ROM I have flashed provided close to nothing really.
I mean, what? Battery percentage mod? Removed CIQ? "Speed" tweaks? A reboot option?
Nothing made this phone faster or more efficient than stock touchWiz. There is no real difference except that people like to flash, so they would flash anything.
Sorry. That's just my take on it.
Wait for MIUI or CM.

I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!

Kikoshi said:
I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!
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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.

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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.
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So then you recommend rooting this early?

i rooted so i could have wifi tethering and control over CPU speeds (via setcpu) in addition, there's some neat functionality that starburst ROM allows:
- better lock screens
- motion controlled silencing of phone
- battery % viewing
some people care about the speed tweaks (i haven't noticed any speed increase) and ciq (i don't really care for this), but there are several reasons to root. that being said, if you don't need the additional functionality of the phone, then preserve your phone's warranty!

Yea I'd say stay stock in terms of the ROM and kernel, but hell yea why not root? Right now I'm running stock kernel with CWM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099) and the stock ROM with root and busybox (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415) and I love it. I was running Midnight ROM but I went back to stock to see if that helped the LoS issues at all. If you're like me and really just want control over the hotspot feature and CPU underclocking (things of that nature) then def go stock rooted fo shoski.

Just picked up a Epic 4G Touch. Coming over from a Sprint HTC EVO. Questions!

Well, I stopped on the way home from work today to see what was new at Sprint. I've been thinking about getting the EVO 3D... I came home with a Touch.
So. I want to root, so I can run root apps like um, Ad Free etc. What do I need to know about rooting this before I jump in head first? Do these phones have any stupid security etc or anything I need to know about?
I just wanna make sure I don't mess anything up.
What do we have for a recovery etc?
Any tips would be GREAT!

E4GT doesn't have all the locked bootloader stuff to worry about like EVO 3D.
You can start off here:
[ROOT][EG30] Automated root of your existing stock ROM (w/o ODIN or ROM Flash)
That will get you rooted on stock and won't involve flashing anything. It doesn't use ODIN.
There is also a tool called ODIN which lets you flash stuff to the phone outside of Android. It provides fastboot-like functionality. Using ODIN, if you flash unsigned kernels, your boot screen will get a yellow triangle and there is a flash count that gets incremented. Also it'll identify the phone in the boot screen by the real model name (I9100...) rather Galaxy S2. Other than that it'll still boot and work.

Question about this ODIN flasher thingy and the unsigned kernels. Why the increment count etc? What is the point to that?
Thanks for the info btw. I think the link you sent will be a good start. Don't need to flash any custom roms yet. I wanna get the hang of the stock one first. This Samsung has a very different feel then the HTC EVO/Sense stuff.

Need to ask Samsung.
Probably they want to keep track of whether you installed non-standard software, possibly for service reasons.
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BTW you can use a USB jig to get rid of the Yellow Triangle and reset the flash counter.
If you just want to get rid of the Yellow Triangle, you can flash back the stock kernel, then use other methods like the Root Installation Kit I pointed to earlier.
Once you get CWM, flashes through that won't affect the Yellow Triangle and flash count.

Just watch the roots right now the odin has an issue with LOS from what I have seen. I am currently using a direct root which roots the rom.

I assume LOS means loss of service?
OK! Noted.

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Just watch the roots right now the odin has an issue with LOS from what I have seen. I am currently using a direct root which roots the rom.
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Stock phones suffer from LOS too. Rooting and some kernels MAY make it worse. I've flashed nearly everything available for this device in the last month and have not had 1 serious unexplainable LOS.
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OK! Well I did the MOST important thing I wanted to do which was to get root in there so I could use Adfree!
I also did the EG30+CWM5 while I was there. Now what? What cool stuff is there to play with? Looking around the forums now, just not sure what to check out first.

kdoggy said:
OK! Well I did the MOST important thing I wanted to do which was to get root in there so I could use Adfree!
I also did the EG30+CWM5 while I was there. Now what? What cool stuff is there to play with? Looking around the forums now, just not sure what to check out first.
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If it were me, I would use the phone as is for a few days to get some feel for whether your situation will get LoS and what the battery life is. Then you have a baseline to compare to after you start making changes.
It is easy to get really excited and install a whole bunch of stuff and all of a sudden you get LoS or really bad battery life, and then you can't figure out what caused it or even what to expect with the stock phone.
This could lead you to think the phone is at fault when it is actually something that was installed later.

Also with the official Samsung rom out now most of the roms in development will be getting reworked shortly.
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Can someone point me to a thread that explains LOS and what do you do if you get it?

kdoggy said:
Can someone point me to a thread that explains LOS and what do you do if you get it?
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As far as I know the only thing you can really do is reboot the phone. going back to a stock kernal also helps.

kdoggy said:
I also did the EG30+CWM5 while I was there. Now what? What cool stuff is there to play with? Looking around the forums now, just not sure what to check out first.
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Install set CPU and underclock that puppy! Especially with the screen off. 200 min has worked flawlessly for me, and 800mhz Max still flies for most things.
The battery savings are staggering.

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As far as I know the only thing you can really do is reboot the phone. going back to a stock kernal also helps.
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Install set CPU and underclock that puppy! Especially with the screen off. 200 min has worked flawlessly for me, and 800mhz Max still flies for most things.
The battery savings are staggering.
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completely agree. been underclocked to 800mhz for a while. No difference in performance and battery increased probably 20%

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Install set CPU and underclock that puppy! Especially with the screen off. 200 min has worked flawlessly for me, and 800mhz Max still flies for most things.
The battery savings are staggering.
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I'll have to give that a try. I've never been into overclocking these phones. I don't game, I don't use them for video either. I just use them for work to look up help desk tickets while I'm going building to building.
Beats the hell out of lugging my MacBook around just to read some notes on the go.

To Root or Not To Root?

Coming from an Evo 4G that I had rooted right after I got it... ran a ton of different ROMs and that phone seemed like it needed to be rooted to really make it run right... I'm finding that I really don't see any benefit to rooting this phone (other than free tether)...
So, am I missing something? What are these improvements in these custom ROMs that are making it worth it to root... this thing is so freakin awesome already I just can't think of anything else I need...

There are tons of perks in the custom ROMs: themes, TSM-mod, cm7, MIUI, faster lighter ROMs, debloated, Rouge recovery to name a few. If you flashed roms on the EVO im sure its just a matter of time until you dive into the ET4g dev section.

ignore this

phatmanxxl said:
There are tons of perks in the custom ROMs: themes, TSM-mod, cm7, MIUI, faster lighter ROMs, debloated, Rouge recovery to name a few. If you flashed roms on the EVO im sure its just a matter of time until you dive into the ET4g dev section.
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What's "TSM-mod" and "Rogue recovery".. Or more precisely, what are the advantages of them?
I've looked around at the Dev section but the phone's been out long enough that it's hard to find threads that actually explain what all this is.. it's just assumed that I already know...
I know, I know.. use the search fxn... you dont have to flame me... I'll find out on my own

blakjak220 said:
Yeah, I'm not saying I can deny the "flash bug" for long... but I'm so impressed with the phone as is that I'm content for now I guess...
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If your impressed now, just wait till you start flashin'.
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Reason to flash=MIUI.
Calkulin's rom is great for a boost of performance on a stock rom as well...

Honestly, if you're happy with the phone as is, then maybe you should just leave it as it is until something comes along that makes you change your mind. Having a stock/unrooted phone is not a sin

blakjak220 said:
What's "TSM-mod" and "Rogue recovery".. Or more precisely, what are the advantages of them?
I've looked around at the Dev section but the phone's been out long enough that it's hard to find threads that actually explain what all this is.. it's just assumed that I already know...
I know, I know.. use the search fxn... you dont have to flame me... I'll find out on my own
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Tsm is like Cyanogen settings from the cm7 roms, but compatible with Samsung ROMs, Rogue recovery is clockwork recovery but redone, the options are grouped better, better theme, a lot less pain in the ass to use.
Oh yea check out qbking77's videos, he does a lot of how to's and reviews of ET4g ROMs, great stuff.

cds0699 said:
Honestly, if you're happy with the phone as is, then maybe you should just leave it as it is until something comes along that makes you change your mind. Having a stock/unrooted phone is not a sin
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I completely agree. That's what I do with my phones. It also gives you time to get really comfortable with the new device as I know quite a few things change going from an htc phone to a samsung device. I generally will use the phone as is out of the box until I find something I can't bear, don't like or if there is actually a defect of some sort in the software. At which point, I check xda and see if there are fixes for said problems. If there are fixes and you're comfortable, root it and give it a shot. I'd suggest Calkulin's as it kinda seems like the go to rom for just about everyone on here, then maybe venture into the abyss. I'd suggest staying away from modems and other mods until you understand them and are comfortable.

I agree as well, nothing wrong rocking a completely stock phone. There are times I run a stock (debloated) rom just for a change.

I'm running a rooted with no fancy rom phone here. The only reason I haven't flashed a rom yet is because my first phone had GPS problems and this one doesn't. And plus, my evo with 3.0 rom has its own issues too. So I just don't want to jinx it. My wife's phone has the GPS problem. Thinking about bringing it in to the store for a replacement.
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Root? Root... ROOT!!!!!!

phatmanxxl said:
Tsm is like Cyanogen settings from the cm7 roms, but compatible with Samsung ROMs, Rogue recovery is clockwork recovery but redone, the options are grouped better, better theme, a lot less pain in the ass to use.
Oh yea check out qbking77's videos, he does a lot of how to's and reviews of ET4g ROMs, great stuff.
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Thanks man, for the info and the referral. I'm comfortable enough with rooting and tech that it's just a matter of learning the different names for things, as it all goes by something different over here.
And thanks to everyone else for their input... I think I'm just gonna run it stock until I find something I can't live with.. Because right now, I love this thing.

Ok, scratch that.. I rooted yesterday.. just couldn't help myself, I need to be able to tweak the notifications toggles...

Like a drug, its good stuff you probably don't like nascar anyways either or kies or the allinone messenger battery sucker or the.... well ya dig..?
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Mynaga said:
Like a drug, its good stuff you probably don't like nascar anyways either or kies or the allinone messenger battery sucker or the.... well ya dig..?
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Dig.........

blakjak220 said:
Coming from an Evo 4G that I had rooted right after I got it... ran a ton of different ROMs and that phone seemed like it needed to be rooted to really make it run right... I'm finding that I really don't see any benefit to rooting this phone (other than free tether)...
So, am I missing something? What are these improvements in these custom ROMs that are making it worth it to root... this thing is so freakin awesome already I just can't think of anything else I need...
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To be perfectly honest with you the way to go is stock rooted. None of the TW roms are really offering anything so much more exciting than stock TW. But definitely root it. On the practical side you can use the Wireless Tether app (if needed) block ads (a big thing for me) and access all files through Root Explorer. IMO those are reasons enough to root. In a nutshell, if you root your stock ROM you aren't really altering it and it is super easy to revert to non-rooted so there really is no downside as far as i can tell.

I debated the same thing... to root or not to root? I rooted and i am glad i did!

I held off for a while too but miui and the xplode roms are awesome. Just something different.
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Well I rooted and flashed Calk's ROM... within 5 minutes it was having freezes and what not so I said screw it and restored my nandroid of stock... I'll be stayin here for a while.
Edit: not saying anything bad about Calk's work... It prolly would've been resolved with a wipe and clean install and some tweaking but I'm just wanting fast stability right now and stock TW is super fast and my battery life is awesome