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[Q] Phone won't wake after 2 months with a ROM [SOD]

I have had my phone since launch, and have been rooting and installing ROM's for about 10 months.
I use specific ROMs as daily drivers, and am not the type to be flashing different ROMs every day just to see whats new - I pick one and stick with it.
For the last 8 months, whenever I install a ROM, I get about 10 weeks of use with it, and then my phone stops waking from sleep, and I have to pull the battery and boot to turn it on. I have tried reflashing the ROM, changing kernals, changing to a new ROM, and it still has the same problem. The only way to stop this happening has been to ODIN back to stock, and start from scratch.
This has happened with Epic Experience, Syndicate Frozen ROM 1.1 and 1.2, as well as Bonsai.
Each time, I get about 10 weeks of great use, and then the Sleep of Death (I have not actually timed it on a calendar, but my girlfriend will tell you every 2 and a half months my phone is "broken again").
I have read about some other SOD problems with development fixes, but haven't been able to find a cause (let alone a fix) in any of the Epic forums, specifically.
Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know what causes it, or how to fix it (either pro-actively or when it happens, without going back to stock first)?
My next step would be to potentially go back to stock and use the phone stock for 3 months to see if it happens, and if it does, take it to the Sprint store for a new unit, but I really don't want to deal with this phone stock for 3 months
Thanks in advance for any help.

I am starting to wonder if deodexed ROMs wear down after time. I rooted my ET4G and haven't flashed any ROMs on it because stock runs so great. I have my Nexus specifically to run custom ROMs. Maybe try rooted stock but the keyboard will not be good. Hopefully a solid Gingerbread release will use the phone's resources better
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Run SetCPU and set scaling from 200 Mhz to 1000 Mhz. Eliminate the 100 Mhz step. Lots of phones get SOD at 100 Mhz on custom ROMs. I believe this problem is related to the random reboots on the Gingerbread leaks as well. We are experimenting with different voltages to cure it.
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kennyglass123 said:
Run SetCPU and set scaling from 200 Mhz to 1000 Mhz. Eliminate the 100 Mhz step. Lots of phones get SOD at 100 Mhz on custom ROMs. I believe this problem is related to the random reboots on the Gingerbread leaks as well. We are experimenting with different voltages to cure it.
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Kenny, can you PM me your voltage settings please?
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JohnCorleone said:
Kenny, can you PM me your voltage settings please?
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No problem.
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JohnCorleone said:
I am starting to wonder if deodexed ROMs wear down after time. I rooted my ET4G and haven't flashed any ROMs on it because stock runs so great. I have my Nexus specifically to run custom ROMs. Maybe try rooted stock but the keyboard will not be good. Hopefully a solid Gingerbread release will use the phone's resources better
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I've been deodexed stock snce I rooted in march/april. No problems that weren't user error.
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zanderman112 said:
I've been deodexed stock snce I rooted in march/april. No problems that weren't user error.
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Was it really THAT long ago already?!!!

kennyglass123 said:
Was it really THAT long ago already?!!!
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Yes, I was rooted when I went to summer camp in early june lol, I was afraid my phone would randomly flip out while I was there.
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zanderman112 said:
Yes, I was rooted when I went to summer camp in early june lol, I was afraid my phone would randomly flip out while I was there.
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It seems like yesterday that you were waiting for puzzle lock
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JohnCorleone said:
It seems like yesterday that you were waiting for puzzle lock
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Yeah, it sure does. Although, I knew it was coming before anyone else did. I saw it about 2 weeks before it was released. ACS took care of me lol
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did you recently make an effort to over or underclock your processor?

Tomassbender said:
I have had my phone since launch, and have been rooting and installing ROM's for about 10 months.
I use specific ROMs as daily drivers, and am not the type to be flashing different ROMs every day just to see whats new - I pick one and stick with it.
For the last 8 months, whenever I install a ROM, I get about 10 weeks of use with it, and then my phone stops waking from sleep, and I have to pull the battery and boot to turn it on. I have tried reflashing the ROM, changing kernals, changing to a new ROM, and it still has the same problem. The only way to stop this happening has been to ODIN back to stock, and start from scratch.
This has happened with Epic Experience, Syndicate Frozen ROM 1.1 and 1.2, as well as Bonsai.
Each time, I get about 10 weeks of great use, and then the Sleep of Death (I have not actually timed it on a calendar, but my girlfriend will tell you every 2 and a half months my phone is "broken again").
I have read about some other SOD problems with development fixes, but haven't been able to find a cause (let alone a fix) in any of the Epic forums, specifically.
Has anyone else had this problem? Does anyone know what causes it, or how to fix it (either pro-actively or when it happens, without going back to stock first)?
My next step would be to potentially go back to stock and use the phone stock for 3 months to see if it happens, and if it does, take it to the Sprint store for a new unit, but I really don't want to deal with this phone stock for 3 months
Thanks in advance for any help.
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The rom I never have a problem with is viper rom synergy, you should try it out....
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Thanks for the replies.
I have overclocked in the past and was sure to remove the 100Mhz step.
On my last iteration (on Bonsai rom), I avoided overclocking/undervolting because it had been problematic for me, but as I mentioned, the phone still went to crap 10 weeks later.
I currently have EH17 stock rom with root and may hang with this to see if I get any more longevity out of it.

So im curious about something

Has it been COMPLETELY confirmed by those that only get LOS on custom roms...when you return to stock does everything go back to normal completely? I STILL havnt rooted my phone and installed a custom rom but I think im ready for some custom rom and black and blue themed goodness. Is it becoming more worth it now?

It has been mostly proven that neither kernels nor roms cause los. It is simply the phone itself and the network area you are in. Not all phones are created equal....

+1 cause its time for a custom rom
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I got LOS before I rooted my phone. Stock rom stock kernel no root and had LOS

jase33 said:
It has been mostly proven that neither kernels nor roms cause los. It is simply the phone itself and the network area you are in. Not all phones are created equal....
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Right, this of course is one of those things thats still SLIGHTLY shrouded in I guess whats classifiable as a mystery. Im really just trying to verify that those who DID have problems only when on a custom rom, that those symptoms were remedied by going back to stock. Im really more a less trying to convince myself that even if i wade out into the waters of custom roms and i by chance DO encounter a problem, a stock flash would be the cure all.

rrmzr1 said:
+1 cause its time for a custom rom
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lol
10 char

I got it before...then after rooting and adding a custom rom + kernel. After flashing Chris's LOStKernel 1.0.0.2 and the modem over Starburst 1.7 I went a week without an LOS. Then I flashed to Viperboys ROM, and started getting them again. Went back to my Nandroid backup, and now I am 2 days without LOS again...... So not sure it is strictly the Phone itself.

Starburst ROM with lost kernel = very little LoS
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dkpaladin said:
I got it before...then after rooting and adding a custom rom + kernel. After flashing Chris's LOStKernel 1.0.0.2 and the modem over Starburst 1.7 I went a week without an LOS. Then I flashed to Viperboys ROM, and started getting them again. Went back to my Nandroid backup, and now I am 2 days without LOS again...... So not sure it is strictly the Phone itself.
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BAH, this is what I keep throwing back and fourth in my mind. Lol I havnt had a LOS yet...and im just afraid that after i root and do stuff to the phone....itll be a bug fest :\

I had LOS a few times before rooting (I was only stock for about a week, if I remember correctly). After Rooting and using custom kernels, it got worse. depending on which custom kernel, it could be between 5-20 times in a day. I was very frustrated. I never did go back to completely stock. I tried every kernel that was in these threads. I found 2 that work for me flawlessly. I haven't had a LOS issue since I switched to either of the 2 "Stock Pulled Kernels". I am currently on and have been since flashing the one with CWM. I am still rooted and running the Midnight ROM. I am also rocking the v6 supercharger script with setting 6 and the ACS AIO Mod. I have had the Android OS bug since day one and today I formatted my internal and external sd cards to see if that improves. More than one user claims that it has for them so, my fingers are crossed. I still get decent battery life for how I use it, anyway. If you flash a ROM or kernel, you can always go back to completely stock or partially stock. You really have nothing to worry about. Get a usb jig for a few bucks and it will put you even more at ease. Good luck and happy flashing.

No offense but this is asked daily, a little reading.
Developers have stated that it is a problem with the phones firmware.
It has nothing to do with rooting.
Or Sprint's network.
Or the color of your shoes.
LOSt Kernel is recommended until Samsung gets off their ass.

Doing well here. No LOS ever since purchase on launch day. Rooted a week ago with stock rom and root and no change to kernel. Still no LOS. I work by traveling all over the US and no issues there either.
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I know this has been said before, but I just wanted to get my opinion in! I have flashed almost everything out there on my phone, and read everything on the LOS issue and I'm pretty sure it has very little to do with the rom/kernel. Maybe the rom/kernel could make it worse...but I haven't seen any actual cases of that with the current selection of custom software. It's gotta be the modem software, no? Which I'm pretty sure is totally separate from the rom/kernel.

jedwardmiller said:
Doing well here. No LOS ever since purchase on launch day. Rooted a week ago with stock rom and root and no change to kernel. Still no LOS. I work by traveling all over the US and no issues there either.
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Same here. Got 2 LOSs while testing a kernel. Went back to stock kernel with root and zero issues since launch day
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Everyone has there own opinion on the situation. My opinion is once you root this phone, going back to stock right now is not the same as a stock phone that has not been rooted.
On my first SGS2 I did not see an LOS until the day I rooted. Exchanged for a new phone because of it and I have had my replacement for 2 weeks now and have not seen an LOS on it.
I will not be rooting this one unless I see an LOS pop up to prove to me it happens on un-rooted phones. I know people have made the claim but I have not seen it.
Who knows, maybe on stock, LOS does happen but maybe signal comes back on it's own so that is why I haven't seen it. Anyway, this phone is still amazing running stock. I get great battery life and it is zippy as anything. Now if an ICS working Rom pops up soon, that will be one tough decision on what to do.....
Also, I though after about 2 weeks a a device is out a true stock Odin from either Sprint or Samsung leak out. I do not believe we have seen this yet and correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that truly the only way to return this phone like it was out of the box?

[email protected] said:
Also, I though after about 2 weeks a a device is out a true stock Odin from either Sprint or Samsung leak out. I do not believe we have seen this yet and correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that truly the only way to return this phone like it was out of the box?
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If you Odin this and do a factory reset, you will be back to complete stock.

ran mine stock the first couple days with no LOS. tried a couple of Zedomax's roms, and started getting daily LOS. Went to the pulled stock kernel, over 3 weeks now, not a single LOS.

My wife's E4gT is stock.. mine is on Starburst 1.7 which includes the LoSt Kernel. She gets LoS about once a day... I have had 2 since switching to the Lost Kernel over a week ago.

I got LOS within 4 hrs of receiving the phone (stock obviously). Searching the forum reveals that this issue affects all phones, rooted or not. With all the purported solutions, YMMV.
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Rooting...good idea or bad??

So im thinkin to root my phone what u guys think should I?? What are the perks of doin it as well??
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Rooting is up to u man. If u want to do it. As far asks what u get it depends on what u flash. If u just want root then u have access to your /system partition. Use apps that require root permission. With a custom recovery U can flash custom kernels for overclock and undervolt purpose. You can flash custom ROMs.
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I would say no right now, to be honest.
I had a ton of troubles finding the right downloads to get it rooted. In the end, I rooted and installed Starburst and wasn't really impressed; I feel like there was nothing to even be able to edit. It was like running the stock ROM with a new lockscreen.
I'd hold off until development increases on this device. I'm probably going to unroot mine.

rooting is lots of fun, IF you know what the hell you are doing, BEFORE you start the process
Most problems that people have come from NOT READING and learning about it before they do it..
Just like anything else in life, if you don't read about it, and learn about it BEFORE you decide to do it, you will have problems.
It just blows my mind how many people get a phone, and root it and start flashing stuff without having any idea what they are doing, and then freak out when some thing goes wrong, and post frantic "please help me" stuff all over the internet..
Take the time to learn about it BEFORE you do it, and ask your questions BEFORE you start messing with your phone..If you won't do that, can't do that, or aren't smart enough to understand what you are reading, then don't root; this is a fantastic phone even if you never root it..

I was pessimistic aswell and took the plunge last night. Running Starburst its not the greatest but MUCH better than stock. Battery life is ludicrous. And much more fluid and responsive... My main reason was battery life and oh boy dose it help!
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See I rooted my evo 4g and I mean I liked it for the fact that I could do hella roms and I could overclock it cuz my friends had updated newer phones and just blowing me out the water with speed so I did it it was nice now in just stuck with this one cuz im not sure if its smart right now to do ya know
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Starbust rom does not come with theme. U have to apply it urself. There are alot of themes out there. SB its main point is to save battery and it did a great job.if u like to customize, remove bloatwares or tweak ur phone, root ur phone.
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I like viperom
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You can always reverse a root. it makes your phone even more functional than it already is.
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I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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ipetloudog said:
I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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THE root method will be the same.

Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.

Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.

saj1jr said:
Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
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Phone is pretty new you may get lucky and there are not enough refurbs out there to give you back a new one
Shimmy808 said:
Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
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I agree its totally up to the person but not like rooting and then unrooting is you difficult.... Hey may favorite line I have read in xda is "It aint yours till you root it" - words to live by....lol

Rooting is pretty easy on this phone, but I know there are not a lot of Devs compared to like the Evo 3d. The Devs we do have are all like pros at developing though, so they will be able to update and bring new things frequently. I rooted on Starburst's rom and I love it, because it's so Stock that it seems like its still and E4GT, but so different that I know its more smooth.

So im sewing u guys all like this starburst rom....I think I will wait lil bit longer to root when more roms comes out
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Convince me to root!

So far I have zero complaints about this phone, there are some ui things I would like fixed, and I know can be fixed via rooting, but they just don't seem to be enough to push me over the edge. I have files downloaded and ready to go, but just can't seem to take the plunge. I thought I had my first los today, but the phone recovered as soon as I was back in signal(if it hadn't that would have done it).
So why should I root?
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You can always revert back to the stock kernel if you have an issue (or have them that frequently that you can't stand it). Anybody who thinks that once you root there is no way to go back is an idiot. "lol, I got no LOS then I rooted and even though I put stock kernel back its all [email protected] lol" not true.
I got 2 LOS in the first week stock...rooted...got a bit more than usual, but nothing crazy. Flashed stock kernel back, still rooted, didn't have another for a few weeks until I flashed a new kernel...flashed back, have had none...etc etc etc, YMMV, but, umm, I don't think you have anything to be afraid of. Just know what you are doing...don't just flash stuff and figure it out later. Know why you want something and how to 'put it back'...also having/making a USB jig would be a good idea, but not necessary.
You can get them for like $3 on amazon or build one with a microUSB cable and $1 worth of stuff from radioshack.
I don't know about you but I certainly didn't get this phone to NOT mod it.

I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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flyboy1100 said:
I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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The only thing I can tell you is that read the directions and understand ODIN for all of the ODIN stuff you do. That is one of the ways you can brick the fnck out of this phone...not paying attention in ODIN. Don't write a partition if you are not told to...and try to only use it to flash a kernel+CWM and flash everything else from CWM if and when possible.
If you aren't worried about LOS (and it is real and under the right circumstances it'll effect every phone...reboot...no big deal...if it is flash a pulled stock kernel) then go for it.
I haven't tried ViperROM on this phone yet, but, I can tell you from my time with the E3D that kid knows what he's doin'....I'm sure this ROM is no different and I've heard nothing but great things about the LoST kernel.

If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Tell us how it goes. You won't be disappointed.
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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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Someone convince me to strangle my puppy. I love him and all and he is very well mannered but if you guys can talk me into strangling him, I will.

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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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I agree. You root cause u want to. If u want someone to convince u then maybe u shouldn't.
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I don't understand why some people view this almost like losing their virginity, trying a drug or robbing a liquor store. It's a very well understood technical process with very specific pros and cons that are also very well understood.

Yep. First android phone for me, and I bought it with the full intention of making it MY phone. After all, they are basically an additional limb for most people, no? (I'd say if you're registered with xda that is most likely the case! ) So you might as well go balls to the walls, right? If you're not into that kind of thing, then keep it stock! This phone is AMAZING just sitting at the home screen...it looks awesome! It is a great piece of technology, with plenty of great features and capability, and will serve you very well whether its rooted or not. Good luck with whatever you do!

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If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Not looking for pressure. I will probably root it tomorrow or next week
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Because all the cool kids are doing it!
I broke down and did it yesterday when someone said viper ROM solved his app freezing due to using a ton of CPU usage bug. So far, so good.
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OP if you are on EG30 baseband could you extract the modem.bin file for us so we could test it?

I would just stay stock. Honestly, no offense to the developers, but there is just nothing substantial out there. If you want a couple of different themes, you could consider rooting, but other than that every ROM I have flashed provided close to nothing really.
I mean, what? Battery percentage mod? Removed CIQ? "Speed" tweaks? A reboot option?
Nothing made this phone faster or more efficient than stock touchWiz. There is no real difference except that people like to flash, so they would flash anything.
Sorry. That's just my take on it.
Wait for MIUI or CM.

I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!

Kikoshi said:
I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!
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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.

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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.
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So then you recommend rooting this early?

i rooted so i could have wifi tethering and control over CPU speeds (via setcpu) in addition, there's some neat functionality that starburst ROM allows:
- better lock screens
- motion controlled silencing of phone
- battery % viewing
some people care about the speed tweaks (i haven't noticed any speed increase) and ciq (i don't really care for this), but there are several reasons to root. that being said, if you don't need the additional functionality of the phone, then preserve your phone's warranty!

Yea I'd say stay stock in terms of the ROM and kernel, but hell yea why not root? Right now I'm running stock kernel with CWM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099) and the stock ROM with root and busybox (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415) and I love it. I was running Midnight ROM but I went back to stock to see if that helped the LoS issues at all. If you're like me and really just want control over the hotspot feature and CPU underclocking (things of that nature) then def go stock rooted fo shoski.

Hello, Epic 4G Touch on its way

It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!

monkeybone12 said:
It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!
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You might want to look into QBKing77's videos, it'll probably help you out a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6B97247164921053&feature=plcp
Also, if you go into the development section and look around a bit, you'll be able to find useful things, as well as answers to questions you may have, quite quickly.
Hope it helps, and enjoy this awesome phone!

monkeybone12 said:
It should be here Tuesday. Been doing some homework, however, some quick Q's for you pros.
I'm coming from an HTC Evo4G and Evo3D, so Odin is somewhat unfamiliar...
What is the "best" root method?
Is most everything on the Epic similar to that of the Fascinate? I've rooted and flashed MIUI on one of those...
Anything I need to avoid like the plague????
Thanks!!!!
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Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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I use Touch Recovery and I have no issues at all..

Mark.J.Linskiy said:
You might want to look into QBKing77's videos, it'll probably help you out a lot.
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6B97247164921053&feature=plcp
Also, if you go into the development section and look around a bit, you'll be able to find useful things, as well as answers to questions you may have, quite quickly.
Hope it helps, and enjoy this awesome phone!
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Thanks a bunch! Been looking through the wiki and development. Looking like some great Devs on this phone!

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Touch recovery unless u like pretty bricks lol, i came from og evo and used oneclick odin and auto root to root my et4g only took about 10mins search the dev thread for them they were buried a little ways down when i rooted on friday and i had to read for a cpl hours to familiarize my self with all the new terms and the real differnces in the setup of this phone vs the evo but i previously owned a samsung intercept which was similar in setup so a refresher was all i really needed and familiarizing myself with the updated methods (odin vs swupdater) etc
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Using Touch Recovery on my Evo4G, LOVE IT!
Thanks for the heads up on the auto root method, sounds up my alley coming from revolutionary and unr3voked.

monkeybone12 said:
Thanks a bunch! Been looking through the wiki and development. Looking like some great Devs on this phone!
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No problem.
There are definitely great Developers on this phone.
My personal favorite ROM is by Rujelus22, he also just released a Beta Kernel with Touch Recovery.
Good Luck!

the "Touch Recovery" as long as you use one that is baked into a kernel is fine (ie rogue Hitman Kernel) Part of the issue at least with everything I've been reading is that when people use the "TEMP" touch (from say the clockwork app in market that allow a "temporary" touch recovery to be put in place) is when a lot of people have had issues. I use the Hitman repack and I've yet to experience any issues with it ever.
As for rooting the phone I do it the tried and true way always with Odin. I kept a Stock EG30 (what this phone came with at launch) Odin restore on my computer with sfhub's auto root. It takes a few longer to do a root process (I do believe that sf made a EG30 auto root that comes in Odin form Odin that and you have root with busybox and superuser)
Like I said I just go about it differently. That's how I root my friends phones and they don't mind the few extra minutes or so that it takes cause once it's done they have a phone always in 100% working order and ready to go.

Touch recovery bricks when you try to come back to GB from ics through cwm.
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globalninja said:
Touch recovery bricks when you try to come back to GB from ics through cwm.
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Thanks for the heads up.

cidica said:
the "Touch Recovery" as long as you use one that is baked into a kernel is fine (ie rogue Hitman Kernel) Part of the issue at least with everything I've been reading is that when people use the "TEMP" touch (from say the clockwork app in market that allow a "temporary" touch recovery to be put in place) is when a lot of people have had issues. I use the Hitman repack and I've yet to experience any issues with it ever.
As for rooting the phone I do it the tried and true way always with Odin. I kept a Stock EG30 (what this phone came with at launch) Odin restore on my computer with sfhub's auto root. It takes a few longer to do a root process (I do believe that sf made a EG30 auto root that comes in Odin form Odin that and you have root with busybox and superuser)
Like I said I just go about it differently. That's how I root my friends phones and they don't mind the few extra minutes or so that it takes cause once it's done they have a phone always in 100% working order and ready to go.
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I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?

monkeybone12 said:
I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?
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there is a counter in the bootloader. After a non standard ROM is flashed, the counter is triggered and you get the "triangle of shame" that let's service people know you've flashed a ROM on your phone / voided your warranty. A USB jig can reset the triangle and the counter. you can get 'em on Amazon, Ebay, or you can make a jug for next to nothing...
Good luck and welcome to the fold! You're gonna love it!
P.S. I'm a firm proponent of the 4.0 Blazer ROM. Buttery smooth fast and great battery life... (FB15 modem)

Achristocat said:
there is a counter in the bootloader. After a non standard ROM is flashed, the counter is triggered and you get the "triangle of shame" that let's service people know you've flashed a ROM on your phone / voided your warranty. A USB jig can reset the triangle and the counter. you can get 'em on Amazon, Ebay, or you can make a jug for next to nothing...
Good luck and welcome to the fold! You're gonna love it!
P.S. I'm a firm proponent of the 4.0 Blazer ROM. Buttery smooth fast and great battery life... (FB15 modem)
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Oh, THAT'S ALL? Lol... I was thinking it was something different.
It should be here in a matter of 12-16 hours... Freaking stoked. Thanks for the Rom recommendation! Looking to try a few off of the bat. MIUI has always been one of my faves, but 4.0 Blazer will be flashed too!

I came from the evo too this phone was a little confusing at first but a little reading and it makes sense real quick ive settled on team nocturnals dark ics blend rom with stock kernel and fb21 modem and im getting about 6-8hrs screen on time
Edit: im at 10hrs 36mins on battery 8hrs 46mins screen on been trying to see how long it would last me with heavy use today been browsing xda most of the time and my display is 83% battery use cuz i have my brightness at about 80%
Edit 2: i forgot to mention im at 46% battery left on stock 1800 battery as well with that usage rediculous compared to my evo that was 3500 battery times for me my 1800 in my evo would be dead at 8 hrs screen on
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I'm gonna throw this out there and hopefully prevent some bad things, I am a lurker who reads a TON. I am gonna strongly caution you against using touch recovery. Far too many phones have been getting bricked lately. Also, don't pay too much attention to modems or odin at first, eventually you'll get curious and go for it, but it's not really necessary for most things. If you are gonna go for odin, I'd suggest buying the mobile odin app from the market. Very handy app.
But be warned, stay away from touch recovery for now. Wait for the kinks to be ironed out.

monkeybone12 said:
I'd love a link if you have any handy.
Odin did seem pretty simple when I've used it before. What is this I keep reading about a flash count? Is there a limited time you can flash roms?
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look up qbking77 on youtube, he has great videos for this phone including the 1-click method to root this phone. Also, I believe buying a jigg will reset the counter on odin

Freeroot said:
I'm gonna throw this out there and hopefully prevent some bad things, I am a lurker who reads a TON. I am gonna strongly caution you against using touch recovery. Far too many phones have been getting bricked lately. Also, don't pay too much attention to modems or odin at first, eventually you'll get curious and go for it, but it's not really necessary for most things. If you are gonna go for odin, I'd suggest buying the mobile odin app from the market. Very handy app.
But be warned, stay away from touch recovery for now. Wait for the kinks to be ironed out.
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Thanks for the advice. Not falling on deaf ears.
Snagged up mobile odin BTW, looks pretty slick!

DAMN.... THAT was easy!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I came from the evo too this phone was a little confusing at first but a little reading and it makes sense real quick ive settled on team nocturnals dark ics blend rom with stock kernel and fb21 modem and im getting about 6-8hrs screen on time
Edit: im at 10hrs 36mins on battery 8hrs 46mins screen on been trying to see how long it would last me with heavy use today been browsing xda most of the time and my display is 83% battery use cuz i have my brightness at about 80%
Edit 2: i forgot to mention im at 46% battery left on stock 1800 battery as well with that usage rediculous compared to my evo that was 3500 battery times for me my 1800 in my evo would be dead at 8 hrs screen on
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I heard BATT life was outstanding on this little devil. Let's hope!

I ended up almost 15 hrs onbattery with close to 12 hrs screen on when i plugged in at18% last night
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