I've searched for answers to these questions and I'm sure they exist but with how busy this forum is, it's tough to find answers. Sorry if these have been asked and answered. AT&T at my house has become nearly unusable at times so I'm considering trying Sprint. Having a Captivate and an unusable GPS (and no interest in a physical keyboard) I'm leaning towards the EVO.
1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly? Captivate is my first Android phone so I've never tried...
1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
Pretty difficult. 99 times out of 100 if you screw something up, there is a way to fix it.
2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
Absolutely. It's really easy to do too. Search the development forum, there is a thread there that details how to do it.
3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
I do not have a way to compare, but I put a fresh battery in my EVO yesterday morning, used it moderately throughout the day and still have 40% battery life.
4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
Not sure. I don't ever plug it in to charge, I use a spare battery charger. I have 5 batteries so when one dies, I put a fresh one in.
5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly? Captivate is my first Android phone so I've never tried...
I'd imagine it would work fine. i used Titanium to restore a ****load of my own apps (free ones, of course) onto my buddy's phone and it worked fine. I would stay away from trying to restore the system data though.
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1. How easy is it to brick or break the EVO? I'm pretty careful but the Captivate is nearly unbrickable. Just wondering how much more careful I need to be.
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It isn't easy to brick the Evo, but it isn't as brick proof as the captivate.
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2. Is it easy (possible?) to fully restore the EVO back to stock everything, unrooted, if I decide to return it or have to do a warranty exchange?
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Much easier than the Captivate, in my opinion (odin sucks). I had to unroot my wife's Captivate recently because she was having the random shut down issue. After dinking around with Odin for way to long I finally ended up nandroid restoring her original stock jf6, through clockwork, that I made immediately after rooting, and then using one click unroot.
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3. I know it's a long shot but any former Captivate owners (or perhaps Epic owners) that can offer a comparison of battery life?
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My Evo seems to get slightly better battery life (Running Fresh 3.3.0.1) than my wife's Captivate does with rooted JF6. That said, I have had my Evo for 3 months and have learned how to set it up to get best battery life, whereas with my wife's Cappy, I only dink with it when she is having a problem. I suspect that if I worked with her phone a bit the battery life could be a bit better than the Evo.
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4. How long does it take to fully charge from 10% battery remaining? I know that sounds like a silly question but one thing I (and others have noticed) regarding the Galaxy S phones is they take a really long time to charge. The battery life isn't great, so I feel like I'm always trying to plug my phone in because it's slow to charge but fast to drain.
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We both charge our phones at night, so I can't say which takes longer, but my Evo takes about 1-2 hours to get full charge from less than 10% left.
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5. Not EVO specific, but as many of you may have switched from a previous Android phone to an EVO, does Titanium Backup move from one device to another? In other words, if I move my titaniumbackup folder from my Captivate running Froyo to an EVO running a custom ROM (say, Fresh), would it restore apps and data (NOT system data necessarily) correctly?
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I don't know, I have copied some apps between our phones, but always installed them manually. My guess is TB might work for some apps and not for others. I personally wouldn't do it that way.
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So I'm getting a new epic 4g touch on Tuesday. What steps do you guys recommend doing on a new epic 4g touch? A couple things I wasn't sure about was calibrating the battery and which version ROM I should install? Any other tips/advice from the start would be appreciative!
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So I'm getting a new epic 4g touch on Tuesday. What steps do you guys recommend doing on a new epic 4g touch? A couple things I wasn't sure about was calibrating the battery and which version ROM I should install? Any other tips/advice from the start would be appreciative!
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My friend welcome to xda and your new purchase. I suggest the best thing to do because you can get a lot of different answers to your questions is to check out this thread here.
Do a lot of reading more over the next couple of days to get a hang of how things operate in here. I dont know what phone you are coming from but this is definitely a nice phone and easy to root w/ a few rom choices.
Like I said start with what I linked and just go through development section and read, read, read and then read some more.. I know it sucks but its going to pay off. Oh yea don't lose your mind over LOS either its been solved for mostly everyone...lol
Quick Answers:
Q: calibrating the battery
A: recovery has option and there are apps on the market
Q: which version ROM
A: Your choice I advise try them all if you like. Thats what nandroid is all about
Again welcome
Thankyou for the insight! I am coming from iphone 3G/3Gs and currently have had the iphone 4 since it came out. I've always loved android but up until now haven't had an android-based phone. I've become bored of iOS and seems that android is a lot more open which is something that I like. With the phone being new and all is the battery calibration really recommended/needed? Again, thanks for your input!
Battery calibration isn't really needed, that is to say that your phone will work fine without doing this. However, after flashing new roms or even after a few months of discharge cycles, it's adviseable to clear the battery stats referenced by the OS. You will need root access to do this.
Easiest way to do this is plug the phone to the charger, go to sleep, when you wake up, open the app Battery Calibration, press the button, unplug, and use the phone all day and night until it dies on its own. It's important to charge the phone fully after that in a single session.
For starter roms, I recommend sticking with the latest stock Samsung release. Use it for a week or two in order to get a baseline of what you like, dislike, and to help find your own personal preferences. You can then start test-driving the other offerings, while making nandroid backups as needed for the ability to quickly go back. I find myself cycling back and forth between Calkulin's rom and Blazer. The former for the reputed battery life and the latter for general eye candy. Neither comes with a kernel capable of being overclocked with the easy methods, so if that's what you're after, you can try the "Desperado" (v1.3 is latest) and clock it up to 1.6ghz if you find a game that needs it. Suffice it to say, my E4GT is now underclocked at 1GHZ whereas my Epic 4G was typically at 1.5-1.6ghz... yes, the phone is quick.
pardon my fng-ness. it's been awhile since i've thought about any of this stuff, and i only read and learned enough the first time a few months back to be dangerous. and, well, annoying, i'm sure.
so, i've got 2 evo 4g's, one rooted, one stock. the one that's rooted now has a usb charge port issue - it will not charge because the port slides too far into the phone. neither phone had been updated to the latest sprint my question is, if i do a back up via nandroid or titanium, can i save that file on the pc, move it to the stock evo, flash it and have the unrooted evo now magically be a mirror image (including root status) of the one i need to take in for service?
as i write this i am now starting to realize probably not, but it's worth asking.
thanks.
n/m. if i can't charge the damn phone, i certainly can't transfer files from it. grrr....
I don't recommend using a nandroid on a different phone. You can restore your apps from titanium backup, just not system apps. There's too many differences between phones.
"We're coming from a pure power source."
A minor note.. If once evo charges, why not charge both batteries with that one to get your other up and running...
And try to get my root backup or titanium to backup the files for you.
i've actually got the two evo's and an Anker charger/backup battery, so i've always got a fresh battery. but...i'm in sales and always on the phone (or surfing between calls, thanks ADD!), so i'm always needing to swap batteries. i could keep going on like that, but prefer to have everything working properly.
I have two EVOS my wife and I, I should say and yes I have very readily swapped nandroids back and forth like nothing. Even when both systems were running diffrent OTAs but both phones were rooted. My advice is root the other phone load the broken phone nandriod on to the good phone SD card and run recovery on the good phone. Also... Back up the existing nandriod on your computer (just in case)
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About eight months ago I traded in my Verizon BlackBerry for a Droid Incredible 2, but I still have a LOT to learn, so please bare with me
When I got my Inc2 I immediately got it rooted & flashed with a LOT of help as it took numerous steps and two days to complete. So from day one I've been using Skyraider Zeus, and have really enjoyed it. But recently the battery icon has started turning red with an exclamation point. After having been told by a number of people that this sounded like a battery issue, so I purchased a new battery. Unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. It was then suggested that I flash a new ROM to see if that would fix it. I assumed it would, to an extent, since most ROM's use different battery icon images.
So I traded (begrudgingly) my beloved Skyraider Zeus this weekend for ViperINC 1.3.1. Unfortunately I only used this ROM about 24-hours because I could no longer use wireless tether, which for me was a deal-breaker
I then traded ViperINC for Magnolia 2.1.1, which I very much liked because it was so similar to Skyraider Zeus, and I was once again able to use my wireless tether. Unfortunately I started experiencing the red battery icon issue again, as well as it would not allow me to connect my Google account, thus preventing me from using a lot of features.
So last night I went back to the nandroid backup from over the weekend and am now back to my beloved Skyraider Zeus *SMH*
All this having been said, I have two questions....
First... does anyone have an idea of what could be causing the issue with the battery icon turning red?
Second... can anyone recommend a ROM similar to Skyraider Zeus that can handle my excessive use (email, web, SMS & voice), that supports wireless tether and (if possible) allows me to take screenshots (preferably from the power button like Skyraider)? Oh, and the fewer steps to flash, the better LOL!
Thanks in advance to those who reply!!
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About eight months ago I traded in my Verizon BlackBerry for a Droid Incredible 2, but I still have a LOT to learn, so please bare with me
When I got my Inc2 I immediately got it rooted & flashed with a LOT of help as it took numerous steps and two days to complete. So from day one I've been using Skyraider Zeus, and have really enjoyed it. But recently the battery icon has started turning red with an exclamation point. After having been told by a number of people that this sounded like a battery issue, so I purchased a new battery. Unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. It was then suggested that I flash a new ROM to see if that would fix it. I assumed it would, to an extent, since most ROM's use different battery icon images.
So I traded (begrudgingly) my beloved Skyraider Zeus this weekend for ViperINC 1.3.1. Unfortunately I only used this ROM about 24-hours because I could no longer use wireless tether, which for me was a deal-breaker
I then traded ViperINC for Magnolia 2.1.1, which I very much liked because it was so similar to Skyraider Zeus, and I was once again able to use my wireless tether. Unfortunately I started experiencing the red battery icon issue again, as well as it would not allow me to connect my Google account, thus preventing me from using a lot of features.
So last night I went back to the nandroid backup from over the weekend and am now back to my beloved Skyraider Zeus *SMH*
All this having been said, I have two questions....
First... does anyone have an idea of what could be causing the issue with the battery icon turning red?
Second... can anyone recommend a ROM similar to Skyraider Zeus that can handle my excessive use (email, web, SMS & voice), that supports wireless tether and (if possible) allows me to take screenshots (preferably from the power button like Skyraider)? Oh, and the fewer steps to flash, the better LOL!
Thanks in advance to those who reply!!
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It means the phone can't read the battery information (charge level, temperature, etc)... I would first try pulling out the battery and checking the contacts on the battery and the phone. If they are bent or messed up, return the phone to stock and take it back to Verizon for a replacement.
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It means the phone can't read the battery information (charge level, temperature, etc)... I would first try pulling out the battery and checking the contacts on the battery and the phone. If they are bent or messed up, return the phone to stock and take it back to Verizon for a replacement.
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Thanks for the reply, antoniodz95!
I had a number of people suggest it was a battery issue, but cleaning the contacts didn't solve it, so I just got a new battery. But even with the new battery it still happens. I've had days where it barely happens at all, and then I have days where it will stay red almost all day. So I'm thinking it isn't a battery issue at all, but instead is something with the device itself. Which is why I tried a new ROM over the weekend, but again the issue persisted.
Also, I purchased the device outright from someone, so taking it into Verizon isn't an option. That is why I am hoping someone will know how I can fix it since it doesn't appear to be the battery or the ROM causing it
Thanks again!
Your problem definitely sounds like a hardware issue. It could be as simple as a lose connection on the back side of the battery contacts inside your phone. If it isn't negatively affecting the phone's actual battery life and you don't want to crack open the case, you may just have to accept it's imperfection.
As for Rom suggestions... In all honesty, if SkyRader works for you, stick with it. It really is one of the most complete, thorough, and fully functionl GB-basd Sense Roms available for the phone. You could give UKB Evolution a try. But being ICS-based will lend to some "quirks" that may or may not dissuade you from using it.
My wife's phone has the same issue and it is stock unrooted. If memory serves me correctly doesn't skyraider have the option to hide the battery from the status bar? If so just hide it so you don't see it and maybe get a battery widget. The widget may not work either. My wife's phone works fine so it doesn't appear to affect it. And I agree with the above statement that skyraider is hard to beat. As far as gingerbread sense it is my go to rom. I always keep it on my phone in case my phone acts up and I need something dependable.
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Your problem definitely sounds like a hardware issue. It could be as simple as a lose connection on the back side of the battery contacts inside your phone. If it isn't negatively affecting the phone's actual battery life and you don't want to crack open the case, you may just have to accept it's imperfection.
As for Rom suggestions... In all honesty, if SkyRader works for you, stick with it. It really is one of the most complete, thorough, and fully functionl GB-basd Sense Roms available for the phone. You could give UKB Evolution a try. But being ICS-based will lend to some "quirks" that may or may not dissuade you from using it.
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Thanks for the reply, Card83!
It's hard to say if it's having a negative affect or not. My battery has drained like crazy since day one, but I don't know if it's a normal amount of battery drain or not, nor do I know what causes it. I am a heavy user at times, but there are still those days where it seems to drain much quicker than it should in my opinion. All I do know is when compared to my old BlackBerry, this device is as bad and even sometimes worse when it comes to battery drain.
As far as ROM's go, I think I will just stick with Skyraider unless something really catches my eye, especially since the whole process really isn't all that fun for me LOL!
Thanks again!!
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My wife's phone has the same issue and it is stock unrooted. If memory serves me correctly doesn't skyraider have the option to hide the battery from the status bar? If so just hide it so you don't see it and maybe get a battery widget. The widget may not work either. My wife's phone works fine so it doesn't appear to affect it. And I agree with the above statement that skyraider is hard to beat. As far as gingerbread sense it is my go to rom. I always keep it on my phone in case my phone acts up and I need something dependable.
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Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
I don't honestly know if it can be hid or not to tell you the truth. But it isn't that it bothers me, it just concerns me is all. Especially when I started looking into possible causes and had even the most Android knowledgeable people I know stumped. But it doesn't appear that there is any cut and dry explanation for it, so I guess all I can do is wait hope whatever it is doesn't get worse.
In the meantime I will be sticking with Skyraider. It was nice having a different appearance for the weekend, but it sure wasn't worth all the function that was lost.
Thanks again!!
Its probably hardware but you might try clearing battery stats in recovery. That will probably not do anything but it won't hurt. For full functionality if you want something different try cm7 or the gb miui.
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Thanks in advance to those who reply!!
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Thanks for the reply, antoniodz95!
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the reply, Card83!
Thanks again!!
Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
Thanks again!!
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JavaBratt said:
Thanks for the reply, Card83!
It's hard to say if it's having a negative affect or not. My battery has drained like crazy since day one, but I don't know if it's a normal amount of battery drain or not, nor do I know what causes it. I am a heavy user at times, but there are still those days where it seems to drain much quicker than it should in my opinion. All I do know is when compared to my old BlackBerry, this device is as bad and even sometimes worse when it comes to battery drain.
As far as ROM's go, I think I will just stick with Skyraider unless something really catches my eye, especially since the whole process really isn't all that fun for me LOL!
Thanks again!!
Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
I don't honestly know if it can be hid or not to tell you the truth. But it isn't that it bothers me, it just concerns me is all. Especially when I started looking into possible causes and had even the most Android knowledgeable people I know stumped. But it doesn't appear that there is any cut and dry explanation for it, so I guess all I can do is wait hope whatever it is doesn't get worse.
In the meantime I will be sticking with Skyraider. It was nice having a different appearance for the weekend, but it sure wasn't worth all the function that was lost.
Thanks again!!
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Unless you are using an official charger, try a different one, in particular, try the one made for our phones...
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We have 2 DI2 - one has been running SR Zeus continuously (95% of the time) for 15+ months with no issues, with light usage & minimal mobile data/3G - get 3 days+ of standby as it's mostly on voice calls. Mine has been flashed with variety of Roms sourced from XDA, been running lately on HTCI2-MROM based on CM7, battery life is a notch better or equal to SK Zeus - otherwise, it runs on the following Stock Sense Rom, which has nice tweaks - very similiar and as good as Zeus, if not better. It has given me good battery / standby time - average of 2 to 3 days, 25 to 30 hours if I'm really pushing it (tethering, GPS, video streaming, etc.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219471
What Recovery are you using - as others suggested, it could be hardware issues (loose connection/dropped or even (*gasp*) water-damaged pre-owned device that you are now holding, especially with a brand new/fresh battery & HTC's OEM batteries are very good, my old HTC Ozone running Windows 6 is still holding a great charge with its original battery after 4 years.
I would suggest letting the battery drain and fully charge it, go into Recovery & wipe battery stats and use it normally - let it run and stablize for 2 or 3 cycles with the new battery, and see how it go. Keep the "old" battery charged as a spare and carry it with you for the next few days so that you won't be holding a paperweight.
Assumed you are on the CDMA/Verizon side and not using GSM bands - are you using mostly WiFi or 3G, or a mix of both signals - as all of these do affect (depending on signal strength) your battery life, and that your PRL (*228 option 2) are updated on a regular basis. Running background Apps such as FB, Twitter, etc. also do affect how much usable time you get on a charge, as you know.
Have you tried fixing permissions? Could be the issue.
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First off the evo was officially released in june 2010. Only a few months till we are wishing our evo happy third birthday. Oh I have heard a rumor floating around that the Og Evo is one of the most active devices on XDA.
I have been a member here for a few years. I started with the cricket zio. Then the Og Evo, a 3vo for my girlfriend at the time, and then I fell victim to a boot loop of death. So back to my old a$$ Samsung Messenger II (I had already given the zio to my son as a music/media/911 device) till I could pick up another evo. Found a bad esn hybrid black front/white back og with no battery and seller stated vibration did not work. For $40 shipping paid. Thankfully I didn't sell my 3500 mA extended battery or mid-grade otter box case when I sold my first evo on ebay for $80. Remember it had bootloop of death and also a bad esn.
With some of our phones actually being three years old there are bound to be cataclysmic failures showing up. Over the past few weeks I have noticed a common problem spread out over the massive selection of roms we have. There was nothing really that the roms shared except for the fact that just this one person, never the same one that I can remember, would have this STATUS 7 ERROR during the flash causing the installer to abort. The first couple of times it came up I just passed it over as some wierd error due to something completely different than the real problem.
The following is from a the cm7 unchained thread.
Well with these problems popping up I have been thinking about implementing an old trick. You know about changing partion sizes. We can enlarge the boot and system partions and reduce the data size. We then use a2sd to make up for what we used on the other two. Now all I need to do is add the adjustment to the installer-script.
Although there is a side effect of this. When a different kernel is flashed it will not know how to read the partions. So then the user has to flash another script to change the partion parameters in the new kernel.
Now to shine a light on what the issue is that is causing what seems to be a random problem. The evo has been around since June 2010 and is getting old. The more recovery logs I see the more bad blocks I see. The memory only has so many write cycles before it burns out.
Now with all rom flashing we do just takes another write cycle from the evos life. If we start digging further into the lives of our users we will notice two groups with issues. The older phones (from '10 or '11) and the addicted flashers/developers. Both of which have used up some of their lives testing and flashing.
True be told we can bandaid the evos memory with symlinks to the sdext till we only have the files needed to symlink everything else to the sdext. Only problem will be the transfer rate of sdcard.
Hope this was enlightening and informative. Also if you have not noticed I am working on the TNN Rom toolbox which will help everyone in finding a solving the problems as they pop up.
The thread is in general discussion but only gives highlights of what will be coming. I still have to write the install script to copy logcat automatically to the TNN folder and create a md5sum of the rom flashed. Now I will have to add in the partion adjustments and make a kernel fix script so different kernels can be flashed.
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Well I have recently lost my job which is why I have been able to get all the roms out so quickly and with very few if any bugs.
Then on a few days ago PlatinumPenguin tells me that he has a 3vo sitting unused in his desk drawer. He states that the Og Evo just sounds so much better than the 3vo on his headphones. Long story short he is packing up the 3vo and giving it to me. Talk about a nice guy. So I will move to the 3vo as my phone with service and have the Og completely free for developing purposes.
Then yesterday my buddy tells me that he has an Inspire that his wife wants to put back on att. The problem is that he dropped it and shattered the screen. Then got upset about it and threw it at the wall damaging the power button and volume keys. No power button no phone right. Well it just so happens that I know a trick or two. He hands me the phone and started to walk away. I quickly do my trick and power up the phone before he gets a few feet away. I tell him to watch this phone boot up. Trick is you take the battery out, connect the charger to phone and wall, and then reinsert the battery. B.I.N.G.O. Houston we have lift off.
Now he offers me his bad esn evo with shattered screen if I can replace the screen and get the buttons working on the Inspire. For those unfamiliar with the Inspire it is part of the evo family. It was an att phone almost exactly like the Thunderbolt except it has no ffc.
Now I have two Og Evo's to use for development purposes. Now I can flash two roms at the same time First I have to root the two new to me evos and an Inspire.
Then maybe I can get the TNN Toolbox written up on post 1. With a collection of other tips and tricks for our evo on post two.
Umm time to hit the rooting section of all three phone. It has been awhile since I have done the Og (hw003 latest update from sprint installed Nov '11) the second evo came rooted. I did the 3vo back around august of last year. It took me some time to figure out exactly how to do it. I didn't use the wire trick which had just come out for the 3vo.
Anyways stay tuned for more innovations from Team No Name. They will be coming to a server near you soon. Long live the Evo. Even if we end up running 90% of our roms from a symlinked sdext. Heck who needs internal storage anyways.
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Re: The State of the elderly Evo Hopefully help will be on the way.
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Look forward to this. Count me in to assist where I can. Still noobish as far as development but pretty savvy in regards to understanding how this works and a quick learner.
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Re: The State of the elderly Evo Hopefully help will be on the way.
Oh wow I just powered up this bone stock evo 4.67.651.3. I am going to do a timed boot comparison but it sure looks like the stock one takes twice as long to boot.
It is kind of mind blowing to think that there really is that much difference between a stock and modded phone. They are both hw004 so I can use all my nands on both phones. Oh just so you know I had already booted my newly acquired evo a few time before I started both at the same time. No cheating since both already had a dc made.
Re: The State of the elderly Evo Hopefully help will be on the way.
This is almost like finding out my old EVO has cancer and the more I flash it the more the cancer spreads.
I've had my OG Evo since December 2010 (still stock and unrooted). I recently BOYD'd it over to Ting and bought my wife a used OG Evo off of Glyde. Hers I rooted (my first root ever) without issue and am running MBQsniper's Triple S. I am planning to root my device once I get all the bugs worked out of hers, get SMS copied over, etc.
So, needless to say, I've recommitted to the OG Evo at least until Sprint (and therefore Ting) kills wimax and maybe longer. I'm glad there are people around that are much more knowledgable than I that are still paying attention to this device. It's also funny how everyone seems to be from Texas...
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The evo has been around since June 2010 and is getting old. The more recovery logs I see the more bad blocks I see. The memory only has so many write cycles before it burns out.
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If this is the point you are making the thread title camouflages it somewhat. But it's a very good point.
Can I add another important point regarding the advanced age of our "elderly" Evos?
Batteries also decline with age.
There was a recent discussion around here about buying a replacement battery, which size, which brand, blah blah.
If you are replacing an original launch day stock battery that has been through hundreds of charge/discharge cycles, I can guarantee the details of your replacement battery do not matter as long as it is new.
I had been using a replacement battery for a while and just for the hell of it put in my original battery a week ago. After calibrating and letting it go through a few cycles, I was completely blown away by how bad the battery life was. Same ROM, same usage pattern, just went back to the old battery. I just ended a 13 minute call and watched my battery go from 50 to 15. What is that, 40 minutes of talk time on a full charge? No one would sell a mobile phone like that (not today, not three years ago, 1986 or ever).
So all you people inheriting old Evos (or trying to find new life for your own vintage Evos), please, before you clutter up ROM development threads with comments on battery life, REPLACE YOUR FREAKIN BATTERY FIRST.
Now if they could just "recondition" the non-replaceable flash memory to get rid of those bad blocks..
NxNW said:
If this is the point you are making the thread title camouflages it somewhat. But it's a very good point.
Can I add another important point regarding the advanced age of our "elderly" Evos?
Batteries also decline with age.
There was a recent discussion around here about buying a replacement battery, which size, which brand, blah blah.
If you are replacing an original launch day stock battery that has been through hundreds of charge/discharge cycles, I can guarantee the details of your replacement battery do not matter as long as it is new.
I had been using a replacement battery for a while and just for the hell of it put in my original battery a week ago. After calibrating and letting it go through a few cycles, I was completely blown away by how bad the battery life was. Same ROM, same usage pattern, just went back to the old battery. I just ended a 13 minute call and watched my battery go from 50 to 15. What is that, 40 minutes of talk time on a full charge? No one would sell a mobile phone like that (not today, not three years ago, 1986 or ever).
So all you people inheriting old Evos (or trying to find new life for your own vintage Evos), please, before you clutter up ROM development threads with comments on battery life, REPLACE YOUR FREAKIN BATTERY FIRST.
Now if they could just "recondition" the non-replaceable flash memory to get rid of those bad blocks..
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True that. I had to go back to my original battery and it's stupid how bad battery life is.
As for the bad blocks, funny how 2 years ago, we believed you could write/re-write millions of times with no ill effects
Looks like you've been doing your homework brother,this looks to be promising.
Well actually most of the partition adjusting is old stuff. I just have to find a way to change the boot size. They were doing this back in the hero days.
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I am getting a status 7 error. Sucks, I loved my OG Evo
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Status 7 error is a fail on installing boot image. I suggest removing the lines in the installer script for the boot.img and flashing a kernel separate. The use of a smaller kernel may solve the issue.
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Write cycles for NAND chips are in the order of 10k. Do we have fruity modders surpassing this number?!?
Wild!
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Well lets look at it this way. 10,000 writes over 3 years (oldest evo) over 365 days and we have 9.13 writes a day. So while a 10k life sounds long it is over quicker than you think.
Hope this helped shine some light on the subject.
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Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
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Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
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Honestly, based on what you wrote I'd say just disable the apps you don't want showing up and call it good. The Sense based ROMs are actually quite nice and HTC has been good about timely updates. Turning things off like Facebook notifications, weather updates, location service, and Google Now if you don't need it will all help. Enjoy your new phone.
I agree with mmuzy. I got my One right after they blocked HTCDev on this phone and the phone it worked perfect with out root. Speed was good, battery life was ok considering the size of the battery. My only reason for being hell bent on rooting this phone was ads on YouTube lol Pretty sure you already know this but disabling the animations in the developer settings speeds up the phone just a tad as well.
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Coste5a9 said:
Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
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First things first, with the latest 4.3 update rumrunner doesn't work so even if you wanted to root and s-off it wouldn't be possible yet. Second, unlike Samsung devices, this thing is buttery smooth with or without the bloat so honestly your experience will still be excellent either way. I had an S4 before this phone that was rooted, all bloat removed, ad blocking, greenify, etc and I can tell you right now that right out of the box the HTC One was STILL way smoother than the S4 with NOTHING done to it. I'm running BoneStock at the moment which is basically just a stock rom, so I think HTC did an excellent job with Sense 5 on this phone.
I'm not going to try to sway you one way or another, just sharing my story. I've had the VZW HTC One since launch (Aug 22nd) and never saw a need to root or unlock it out the box. Everything was running great, the phone was smooth.
Suddenly, the 4.3 update arrived and my previously (close to) perfect phone has been plagued by issues. Multiple FCs from core and basic apps, piss poor data connectivity, and worst of all, terrible battery. Since accepting the update, my phone radio has been sucking roughly 45-60% battery at all time. Now I'm growing desperate for a way to unlock my device and control it. I went from around 14-16 hours of medium to heavy usage to barely getting 8 hours from light use. Once again, this is only my story, but, I know that having more control over my device will give me the ability to change my radio and fix my issues. So I vote yay to unlock/root.
LightAeterna said:
I'm not going to try to sway you one way or another, just sharing my story. I've had the VZW HTC One since launch (Aug 22nd) and never saw a need to root or unlock it out the box. Everything was running great, the phone was smooth.
Suddenly, the 4.3 update arrived and my previously (close to) perfect phone has been plagued by issues. Multiple FCs from core and basic apps, piss poor data connectivity, and worst of all, terrible battery. Since accepting the update, my phone radio has been sucking roughly 45-60% battery at all time. Now I'm growing desperate for a way to unlock my device and control it. I went from around 14-16 hours of medium to heavy usage to barely getting 8 hours from light use. Once again, this is only my story, but, I know that having more control over my device will give me the ability to change my radio and fix my issues. So I vote yay to unlock/root.
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Try a factory reset. I was running the 4.3 OTA rom for a few days and I didn't experience any of the issues you just mentioned. I'm now on 4.3 BoneStock with zero issues as well.
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Try a factory reset. I was running the 4.3 OTA rom for a few days and I didn't experience any of the issues you just mentioned. I'm now on 4.3 BoneStock with zero issues as well.
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I agree with this. OTAs are nice in that we don't lose all our apps and settings but they're kind of like dirty flashing a custom ROM. If you have a gremlin infestation with the OTA then I'd start with a factory reset and see if things run better when you clean install your apps.
Well, after a few days of time to test after the full wipe and manual restore I'm still experiencing terrible battery life. As I stated before, it was mainly phone radio taking the brunt of the battery, and that still seems to be the case. On the positive side of things, I do have twice the free space available now.