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I don't know if this is the right place to put this so mods move it if necessary please.
Something got me thinking today "What if I could dual boot my Evo with Windows Phone 7 and Android?". I think that would make it the ultimate phone. The HD2 can run windows and android so why not the Evo also.

this is already released. there is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working

I'm sure you can, I doubt developers who use their time on making it though
Edit: (post above) I stand corrected
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milkit said:
this is already released. There is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working
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hahahahaha

Running haret.exe within windows to boot linux to launch android can be done...
As far as i know there is no way to do the similar on andoid to launch windows mobile.
that is why most windows mobile phones can get a port to android and not android to windows mobile.

milkit said:
this is already released. there is a android 3.0/windows 7 combo rom running at 2ghz with pretty much everything working
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Haha got me too
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gator2k83 said:
Running haret.exe within windows to boot linux to launch android can be done...
As far as i know there is no way to do the similar on andoid to launch windows mobile.
that is why most windows mobile phones can get a port to android and not android to windows mobile.
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That's just because nobody has any interest in putting WinMo 6.5 on their Android phone... WP7 on the other hand may be worth the work.

EtherealRemnant said:
That's just because nobody has any interest in putting WinMo 6.5 on their Android phone... WP7 on the other hand may be worth the work.
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may be worth the work but not the trouble... not open source...

looneylu said:
may be worth the work but not the trouble... not open source...
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Considering that some WP7 devices will most likely use Snapdragon it really shouldn't be terribly difficult to do - but yes, it would be illegal.

Actually, it would not be illegal, as of yesterday.

mrsato said:
Actually, it would not be illegal, as of yesterday.
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no, it would still be illegal because you did not obtain the microsoft portion of the software legally. To be protected under the DMCA changes made yesterday you would have to legally own the software, then it would be ok

[Q] Windows Mobile 7 on HTC Desire Z

Hello all,
I have just recently purchased a HTC desire z, therfore i have become a big fan (already linux geek) of android. However with windows mobile 7 phones recently released on the market i would like to know if anyones working or done a dual boot feature on the desire series with android and windows mobile 7?
ANY help would be amazing and thanks you

Impossible. Especially since there is no WM7. Windows Phone 7 on the other hand will be difficult if anything since there is no source.
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This being said.....i have heard that iphones can now dual boot to android or Ios. Haha
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jark99 said:
This being said.....i have heard that iphones can now dual boot to android or Ios. Haha
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Yup. iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPhone 4, iPad, iPod Touch 1G and iPod Touch 4G.
No support for my 2G Touch though

i to just got a desire z on bell and wanted to go back to wm ( been useing a 6800 for 3 years) is there a rom for that for the desire???
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Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.

Lennyuk said:
Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
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I doubt that is going to stop anyone. It will just take longer.

rewen said:
I doubt that is going to stop anyone. It will just take longer.
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i just figured that sence i can put wm 6.1 or 6.5 on my treo why not on my desire????after alll it is just a operiating system on a small pc...
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joeblow_666 said:
i just figured that sence i can put wm 6.1 or 6.5 on my treo why not on my desire????after alll it is just a operiating system on a small pc...
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Doesn't the Treo have some sort of relation to a WM phone?
If anything will get WP7, it'll be the Desire HD. With it being such a close relation and all.

TheDeadCpu said:
No. No Android phone will ever have WP7.
Sendt with a HW Keyboard from my Desire Z, woop!
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This can't be true since the hardware is WP7 compatible.
My question is WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO?.
If it's to try the new OS, just go to your local dealer and play with there's for about 10 minutes, which is about how long it will take to play with all the features it comes with.

Thanks for all replies,
obviously windows mobile 7 and the desire seriers are all new products and its mostly correct that the desire hardware is compatible, this hopefully is going to be something that will be done sometime in the new year by a very clever professional programer.
so please update if you hear that someone is working on this.
the reason i want WM7 on my htc desire is because currently im iphone programming, next i will be java programming then lastly wm7 programming if all goes to plan.

The htc hd2 isnt suported for a update since it doesnt have the three hardware buttons required for wp7...im with everyone else in this thread i doubt it will get ported to android..i mean it would be nice to dual boot into wp7 but i doubt it will happen...theres not many devs for the desire z right now..well in comparison to the desire and the hero...lets just hope it may may may may happen
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I personally would like to see it happen or at least an emu, so i can watch some netflix.
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Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.

rewen said:
Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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haha yep. It's not a matter of, "WP7 is better than Android" or vice versa...it's just because we can =P

rewen said:
Also for Xbox Live and various other exclusive features. Plus it's just part of getting the most from our phones. I'd love to dual-boot and get the best of both worlds.
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From what I understand, the version of WP7 that runs on the HD2 can't access any of the Live services at the moment because it hasn't got the necessary certificate. This is likely to be another barrier to this sort of thing, though I imagine someone will get over that in time.

android 22 said:
Thanks for all replies,
obviously windows mobile 7 and the desire seriers are all new products and its mostly correct that the desire hardware is compatible, this hopefully is going to be something that will be done sometime in the new year by a very clever professional programer.
so please update if you hear that someone is working on this.
the reason i want WM7 on my htc desire is because currently im iphone programming, next i will be java programming then lastly wm7 programming if all goes to plan.
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i have had various Android smart phones in the last few Years, rooted and installed MANY many m-a-n-y ROMs and launchers. I was amazed with the 'LAUNCHER7' launcher that does not require root access. How ever, it is not the genuine Windows 7 mobile, it is the closest thing to it. It even has the 'live' tiles that you see so many times.
Go to the Android market, and search for Launcher7. I don't want to sound like an advertisement, but the author has done a good job on how it looks and feels. It even has the little fly in and out animations when you select a certain tile.

I doubt anybody even wants a wp7 port to make it worth the devs time to make it. just let that junk go... like someone else said use the launcher7 or better yet buy a windows phone! I did and took it back within two hours! Maybe if u never used a smartphone u could lke it, but anyone who is used to the freedom of android could ever backstep into that poop.
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Lennyuk said:
Windows Mobile is not open source you can't build it for other devices.
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Exactly and this being said how would an Android device such as the Desire Z be able to support the Windows Mobile 7 Apps? On the other hand they have a home launcher in the market that changes your home interface to look exactly like the HTC HD7. You should check it out! Hope I helped a bit

nehemiahfff said:
I personally would like to see it happen or at least an emu, so i can watch some netflix.
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I doubt if there were emulator that could emulate a windows 7 phone it would not be able to run movies or much in that matter. The processing power to emulate a WP7 phone would drastically slow down the G2 even over clocked.
If we are talking about WM6... i would kind of like to see that... but wouldn't use it as a daily driver.

Ditching my Samsung Focus for Galaxy Nexus

Hello there,
I have been following and reading these forums for years but today I finally decided to post something. After reading about the ban on Nexus devices, I went online today very early and bought my own. I'm frankly very tired of the way Microsoft has been dealing with its WPhone platform and after reading what Jelly Bean brings to the table for Android, I'm hooked up!
As this is going to be my first Android phone I would appreciate any comments or insights you guys could provide me with.
Thanks for your time!

barroco said:
As this is going to be my first Android phone. I would appreciate any comments or insights you guys could provide me with.
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As a brand new android / nexus owner the main thing you need to know is that Apple is the devil and to hate everything about them

I'm also in the same boat. I'm not sure whether to get either the HTC One X, LG Optimus 4X HD or the Galaxy Nexus. I dont care about updates as I use custom roms. Or shall I wait for a quad core Nexus phone?
P.s. the phones in my signature are review devices so I have tried the Nexus and One X... just need insight
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When you first get the phone. Unlock the bootloader (search the forums on how to do it). After that, enjoy the phone and look around the Play Store for apps that you may like. There are a lot of apps to look around from.
The reasoning behind unlocking the bootloader (first thing) is because if you DO decide to root and flash custom ROMs after you already set your phone up. You can back up your apps / data whereas if you want to root/flash... you'll have to unlock bootloader (which will wipe everything).

ap3604 said:
As a brand new android / nexus owner the main thing you need to know is that Apple is the devil and to hate everything about them
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Thanks!
I was really pissed yesterday night after knowing about the injunction on the Galaxy Nexus phones!
Also, when it comes to my previous experience with MS/Windows Phone 7 this is what I have to say:
ATT and their update schedule sucks. Do yourself a favor and never buy a phone from them, especially if it's Android or Wp7. You will never see timely or meaningful updates for your phone.
Lack of Swype. Swype is a very sweet technology that we don't get to enjoy in the Wp7 platform. I mean, symbian and meego have swype! Wp7 don't have anything but a very crappy kb and and ****ty autocorrect. I was also very tired of dealing with that.
Lack of over the air updates. Seriously MS? I still have to connect my phone to zune and update that way? Not to mention that can only happen if ATT thinks I, as a customer, deserve to update my phone.
Lack of interesting/appealing apps. We all know how this is in Wp7.
Lack of interesting in keeping legacy devices updated. Which honestly happens with android as well, with the difference being that if you have an android phone, you have the chance of flashing a new rom/forcing the updates as the code is open source. Go try that with a Wp7 and see if it's that easy... NOT!
No custom ring tones still, really... after more than two years? Give me a goddamn break!
And franky, there's more, a lot more, but those are things I can think of right away.
*sighs*

weeo said:
I'm also in the same boat. I'm not sure whether to get either the HTC One X, LG Optimus 4X HD or the Galaxy Nexus. I dont care about updates as I use custom roms. Or shall I wait for a quad core Nexus phone?
P.s. the phones in my signature are review devices so I have tried the Nexus and One X... just need insight
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I was excited about quad core phones and so on until I read what Intel had to say on android not being optimized to deal with dual/quad cores. The hardware is there, ready to ship with multiple cores. However, according to intel (they have been developing their own android phones), android as it is right now isn't optimized to take advantage of multiple cores. Maybe in the next major release of the OS that won't be an issue anymore, but as it is right now the software isn't ripe enough to do that. So, in my case, I decided to save a few bucks and buy the galaxy nexus for 350 from google. Maybe in the future when the software is up to par with the hardware I will consider a quad core android phone.

If you want to unlock the bootloader go and find the thread about toolkit 7,it is verkligen easy to use.
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If you're a flashaholic like me, the Galaxy Nexus is what you want I had Jelly Bean only a few hours after Google announced it
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Pjodor said:
If you want to unlock the bootloader go and find the thread about toolkit 7,it is verkligen easy to use.
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I definitely will once I receive the phone next week. Although I think I will be using the official rom more often than not, unless I find something better out there =)
Thanks for all the helpful advice guys!

barroco said:
I was excited about quad core phones and so on until I read what Intel had to say on android not being optimized to deal with dual/quad cores. The hardware is there, ready to ship with multiple cores. However, according to intel (they have been developing their own android phones), android as it is right now isn't optimized to take advantage of multiple cores. Maybe in the next major release of the OS that won't be an issue anymore, but as it is right now the software isn't ripe enough to do that. So, in my case, I decided to save a few bucks and buy the galaxy nexus for 350 from google. Maybe in the future when the software is up to par with the hardware I will consider a quad core android phone.
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The thing is I cant change my phone until i raise enough money... so surely going ahead of the game is better? Is there going to be a new Nexus out this year?

weeo said:
The thing is I cant change my phone until i raise enough money... so surely going ahead of the game is better? Is there going to be a new Nexus out this year?
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No one is really quite sure. Some people argue that the Nexus 7 was the "nexus device of the year" while others say that there will be multiple nexii being released in Q4 of this year (each from different manufacturers). So to sum up... nobody really knows for sure! But, Google has a history of releasing one Nexus phone a year, and so companies tend to follow their previous trends. Now whether it'll have a new or updated OS (4.2, 5.0) is a whole 'nother story...

barroco said:
Thanks!
I was really pissed yesterday night after knowing about the injunction on the Galaxy Nexus phones!
Also, when it comes to my previous experience with MS/Windows Phone 7 this is what I have to say:
ATT and their update schedule sucks. Do yourself a favor and never buy a phone from them, especially if it's Android or Wp7. You will never see timely or meaningful updates for your phone.
Lack of Swype. Swype is a very sweet technology that we don't get to enjoy in the Wp7 platform. I mean, symbian and meego have swype! Wp7 don't have anything but a very crappy kb and and ****ty autocorrect. I was also very tired of dealing with that.
Lack of over the air updates. Seriously MS? I still have to connect my phone to zune and update that way? Not to mention that can only happen if ATT thinks I, as a customer, deserve to update my phone.
Lack of interesting/appealing apps. We all know how this is in Wp7.
Lack of interesting in keeping legacy devices updated. Which honestly happens with android as well, with the difference being that if you have an android phone, you have the chance of flashing a new rom/forcing the updates as the code is open source. Go try that with a Wp7 and see if it's that easy... NOT!
No custom ring tones still, really... after more than two years? Give me a goddamn break!
And franky, there's more, a lot more, but those are things I can think of right away.
*sighs*
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WP7 has one of the best keyboards on the market that is arguably rivals iPhone keyboard. But I agree with the other points you listed.

anton2009 said:
No one is really quite sure. Some people argue that the Nexus 7 was the "nexus device of the year" while others say that there will be multiple nexii being released in Q4 of this year (each from different manufacturers). So to sum up... nobody really knows for sure! But, Google has a history of releasing one Nexus phone a year, and so companies tend to follow their previous trends. Now whether it'll have a new or updated OS (4.2, 5.0) is a whole 'nother story...
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Thanks. If i buy the GN, would it be classed as "outdated". I know all phones get outdated but I don't wanna get a outdated (specswise) phone. Its really tough... thanks for your reply, gotta thank this now. Btw sorry at @OP for thread jacking..
I am also gonna buy the Nexus 7 so that could be my Quad Core device... really stuck here
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RogerPodacter said:
WP7 has one of the best keyboards on the market that is arguably rivals iPhone keyboard. But I agree with the other points you listed.
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SwiftKey X
@weeo: Galaxy Nexus isn't outdated in any form or shape. People may criticize that it's outdated because of core numbers.
But honestly... who needs a Quad Core? Is it nice to have? yeah... is it a necessity? not really.
Jelly Bean.... what's the first phone getting it? Galaxy Nexus... Is it really outdated? In hardware perspective, it may be somewhat outdated but not to the extent that it has NO hardware that it can't compete with other devices.
Software wise... Galaxy Nexus is more than relevant and it will stay this way for the next two years.

zephiK said:
SwiftKey X
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FTW! I'm really happy with the Android 4.0 keyboard. Very predictive and I've heard 4.1 has a better keyboard
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weeo said:
FTW! I'm really happy with the Android 4.0 keyboard. Very predictive and I've heard 4.1 has a better keyboard
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Yeah I heard it does as well, but I never gave it a chance because I'm addicted to SwiftKey X.... also I modified my post about "Galaxy Nexus" being outdated

4.1 has the exact same vanilla keyboard as 4.0 had... nothing special or new that I can tell

zephiK said:
SwiftKey X
@weeo: Galaxy Nexus isn't outdated in any form or shape. People may criticize that it's outdated because of core numbers.
But honestly... who needs a Quad Core? Is it nice to have? yeah... is it a necessity? not really.
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Bro that touched me right at the end. :crying:

zephiK said:
Yeah I heard it does as well, but I never gave it a chance because I'm addicted to SwiftKey X.... also I modified my post about "Galaxy Nexus" being outdated
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Yes, SwiftKey X is really great, highly recommended.

zephiK said:
When you first get the phone. Unlock the bootloader (search the forums on how to do it). After that, enjoy the phone and look around the Play Store for apps that you may like. There are a lot of apps to look around from.
The reasoning behind unlocking the bootloader (first thing) is because if you DO decide to root and flash custom ROMs after you already set your phone up. You can back up your apps / data whereas if you want to root/flash... you'll have to unlock bootloader (which will wipe everything).
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You can use Ezekeel's app to unlock the bootloader without wiping.. it costs money and I've never tried it though. Also, you have to root it yourself afterwards.
barroco said:
I was excited about quad core phones and so on until I read what Intel had to say on android not being optimized to deal with dual/quad cores. The hardware is there, ready to ship with multiple cores. However, according to intel (they have been developing their own android phones), android as it is right now isn't optimized to take advantage of multiple cores. Maybe in the next major release of the OS that won't be an issue anymore, but as it is right now the software isn't ripe enough to do that. So, in my case, I decided to save a few bucks and buy the galaxy nexus for 350 from google. Maybe in the future when the software is up to par with the hardware I will consider a quad core android phone.
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Uhh, you have to keep in mind Intel is trying to sell their (at present, single-core) chips. They're not exactly an unbiased observer here.
The Nexus is still a good choice, however. It's now pretty cheap (though may not remain that way once the injunction sets in) and it'll be the first to get jellybean and project butter.
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Thanks. If i buy the GN, would it be classed as "outdated". I know all phones get outdated but I don't wanna get a outdated (specswise) phone.
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But, uh, I have to disagree with the other person here. The GN is a last-generation phone (not just in cores, but in stuff like camera, GPU) and, as such, it can be called "somewhat outdated".

A quick word about JB hate.

We've seen lots of complaining in the last couple of days about what is and isn't working in these ports.
It seems GPS may or may not be working correctly, that it may or may not be due to the Leap Second.
WiFi, Bluetooth, volume... if you have these issues, they can mostly be remedied. If not, gratz.
The fact is, these Roms are ports of development previews on a phone slightly but importantly different than yours running an OS that hasn't been released yet.
I was deeply amazed and impressed that some developers had working ports to CDMA the very night it was announced for GSM.
I'd you are running one of these JB ports and you find that it works well enough as a daily driver, consider yourself fortunate and hit the thanks button on the OP, maybe even donate.
If you are trying it out, but find that it lacks the stability or functionality that you require, click the thanks button on the OP anyway because they spent the time to give you something now for free that which you would otherwise have to wait weeks for, or, considering VZW's track record, maybe never.
This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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Jubomime said:
This is how I'm looking at it- I'm getting to preview the latest update for free before it officially comes available. Just like those lucky bastards at Google I/O, except how much did they pay per ticket?
Thanks, devs, for doing what you do.
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They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
Nevertheless I'm very pleased with JB. Everything is working beautiful for me. I using daily driver now without any issues. Just the stock JB at that. I'm not much for all the features of Roms. More into kernel tweaks which I do miss from glados kernel. But Franco is doing fine for now.

M3drvr said:
They paid $900 per ticket. But they get $1200 or so free of stuff. So they actually received 300 for going to it if you look at it that way.
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Thats why I put going to Google IO one year at least on my bucket list.

i think people are forgetting these roms are from nandroids! lol!

I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.

Half of the JB "hate" posts are not "my app doesn't work, JB sucks!" but rather "my app doesn't work, I'm posting it in case someone has stumbled upon a fix"

The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).

CMNein said:
The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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chancy319 said:
Thanks for such an insightful comment. Any more bright ideas?
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No, it succinctly indicates the issue at hand.
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oldblue910 said:
I most definitely appreciate the efforts. I ran the Vicious JB stock port on my VZW Gnex but in the end, I couldn't stick with it because the Verizon framework apps don't work on Jelly Bean yet. This means I couldn't use the My Verizon or NFL Mobile apps, and that's a deal breaker. I understand that you can blame Verizon for requiring the back end framework in order for their branded apps to work, and that's all fine and well, but at the end of the day, I couldn't run them.
Be that as it is, I still appreciate the efforts of those developers to have a working CDMA port the same night. Thanks to all who do what you do. I'm a software developer myself so I know how tedious this crap can be.
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I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.

well you know what the say "everything's amazing these days, nobody's happy"

[email protected] said:
I used My Verizon on JB. You just need to install the VerizonSSO apk in order for it to work...I can upload the file if you need it.
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Would you mind? I can find download locations out there but I'm not sure what version's needed.

CMNein said:
The problem is 80% of the people who own a GN are:
a. Bronies (so they're inherently tools),
b. it's their first Android device (so they're inherently tools).
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I hate you for making me google bronies.

jesusice said:
I hate you for making me google bronies.
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Bring on the hate :cyclops:

These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.

I had to look up bronies as well.... I am sending along my hate alone with jesusice

akira02rex said:
These aren't "ports" of Jelly Bean roms. They are the real deal made specifically for this chipset and device. And, everything works.
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That sort of depends. There are some changes that have to be made to a ROM for the GSM model to be 'ported' to the CDMA models. So, it's a 'port' for those phones, because only the GSM developer preview was 'released'.

They do realize other top phones are just getting ice cream sandwich, and we Nexii already have Jelly Beans sweet taste in our mouths?? Ridiculous!
Sent from my Nexus Prime

One of those lucky ones everything is working just fine, still couldn't see any issues, and I flashed my phone on the 28/06

Funny how ICS was the major update but jb is more of a complete experience.
butter and jelly please...

Firefox OS on SGH-T989

The Samsung Galaxy S2 is actually listed by Mozilla as a supported device for Firefox OS....
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Firefox_OS_build_prerequisites
... with one important note:
Samsung Galaxy S2
The only model that works is the i9100; no other variants are officially compatible. (i9100P might work, since the only change is a NFC chip added)
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Does this mean our SGH-T989 will not be compatible? Has anyone actually tried Firefox OS with our model?

If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.

RXDriv3r said:
If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.
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Still to this day android is still a beta imo
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Redsmurf said:
Does this mean our SGH-T989 will not be compatible?
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Is
The only model that works is the i9100; no other variants are officially compatible.
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not clear enough?

don728871 said:
Still to this day android is still a beta imo
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You could say that. I personally think it was beta back in the Gingerbread days, and ICS was a huge improvement and JB is the topping to the ice cream sandwich lol, imo JB is like rc, its a finished product, it can only get better.

RXDriv3r said:
You could say that. I personally think it was beta back in the Gingerbread days, and ICS was a huge improvement and JB is the topping to the ice cream sandwich lol, imo JB is like rc, its a finished product, it can only get better.
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Then sooo were iOS 1,2 and 3 lol. You guys just say that because even in the 2.x days android was faaaaar lagging behind iOS in both the software AND hardware requirements. Jellybean was the first rendition to properly render GUI elements using the GPU (ICS started it, wasn't complete though) hence the notorious "android lag.". IOS was smooth from the start, powervmr .
That being said, I personally dislike Apple products, go figure

RXDriv3r said:
If someone tried it, there would probably be a thread on it somewhere. About it working on our devices, just take a step back and think, can we run i9000 roms? Our phones and the i9000 are pretty different and I doubt Mozilla would go out of their way to get a t989 and do the work themselves, since our phone isnt International and only sold in a handful or markets. Can it be made to work on our phones? Possibly, with a knowledgeable Dev doing the work, and even then who knows.
The OS as a whole seems to be still in a "beta" form so its not ready yet for the consumer so I doubt anyone would do all the work to port it over to have a half assed OS on their phones, but possibly with time, when the OS is good to go for the market someone will do the leg work to port it over to our phones, but I probably wouldnt hold my breath.
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don728871 said that Android is still a Beta. In a sense, that is true. It's a work in progress that will probably not end. Ever. In that sense, it is still a beta as it also takes in data and user submitted reviews about their issues, likes, dislikes and the such to make it better and better and better.
Now, for Firefox OS, I'd consider it more of a pre-release alpha. They've got the concept down, they've got a working-ish OS for the most part but yes, like you said, it's a half assed ish OS for the most part and probably, nobody would use this as their daily driver until a stable beta (after extensive testing, updates and stuff) is released.
So for now, nothing to expect here. Let's move along shall we?
Wait a sec, let's look at iOS.
Now, yeah, people say it's lag free. True-ish for the most part...
but let's look at it from another perspective. Has iOS 6 changed in any way?
Yeah, I guess in optimization and whatnot but come on, what OS has changed so dramatically?
Evolved in such a way that it's already awesome but it just keeps getting better and better?
That, as we all know, is android. From Cupcake, we've come a long way to Jelly Bean.
That was 4 years ago. Took a while...
Now knowing how other OS's evolved,
it is now safe to assume that Firefox OS isn't going anywhere far for now.

Ooshi said:
don728871 said that Android is still a Beta. In a sense, that is true. It's a work in progress that will probably not end. Ever. In that sense, it is still a beta as it also takes in data and user submitted reviews about their issues, likes, dislikes and the such to make it better and better and better.
Now, for Firefox OS, I'd consider it more of a pre-release alpha. They've got the concept down, they've got a working-ish OS for the most part but yes, like you said, it's a half assed ish OS for the most part and probably, nobody would use this as their daily driver until a stable beta (after extensive testing, updates and stuff) is released.
So for now, nothing to expect here. Let's move along shall we?
Wait a sec, let's look at iOS.
Now, yeah, people say it's lag free. True-ish for the most part...
but let's look at it from another perspective. Has iOS 6 changed in any way?
Yeah, I guess in optimization and whatnot but come on, what OS has changed so dramatically?
Evolved in such a way that it's already awesome but it just keeps getting better and better?
That, as we all know, is android. From Cupcake, we've come a long way to Jelly Bean.
That was 4 years ago. Took a while...
Now knowing how other OS's evolved,
it is now safe to assume that Firefox OS isn't going anywhere far for now.
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Excellent point! Android Evolution has been gradual and drastic ... but still, when it did pick up, it was different. I think if Firefox OS can include a captivating element right from the start, it can make an impact. However, I don't see it being too radically remarkable.