Hi,
My desire is currently s-off, and is normally left as s-off. I dont change back to s-on when I use the phone normally. Should I?
I guess that there is a potential risk all the time that s-off is set, but is this a real risk in reality if the phone is being used normally?
Also I dont use the stock partion tables (I normally use cm r2). Is it possible to apply s-on to non stock partition.
zaphodbeeb said:
Hi,
My desire is currently s-off, and is normally left as s-off. I dont change back to s-on when I use the phone normally. Should I?
I guess that there is a potential risk all the time that s-off is set, but is this a real risk in reality if the phone is being used normally?
Also I dont use the stock partion tables (I normally use cm r2). Is it possible to apply s-on to non stock partition.
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If it's not broken, don't fix it. The only way to restore S-ON is by flashing the stock hboot via PB99IMG.zip, which also restores the stock partitions, so leave it alone.
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Hi I rooted with unrevoked (now running Leedroid) but I noticed in the bootloader it still says S-ON. Is this normal and wtf does the S stand for?
Thanks!
s stands for security, and has nothing to doo with rooting, s-on means that you can't write to the /system and /recovery outside of the recovery mode, and s-off is not needed to run a custom rom, or use rooted apps... so youre good even with s-on...
Ah ok good, probably fine to leave that on then I guess
And if you should wan't s-off, here's the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314
As the topic says, whats the difference on hvaing s-off and s-on?
I had a rooted Wildfire and never had S-off on it.
Do i gain anything by S-off my desire?
If you don't know what it's for then you don't need it...but it basically gives you FULL root access to the /system partition
S-OFF makes it so you're not dependant on booting into recovery every single time you edit something in /system
Makes life easier.
Most phones until very recently when you have root it automatically has given you full root. On the desire (and probably all new htc android phones) they have added an extra layer of security that locks the nand while in use. This stops us being able to use things like Fastboot, and adb to edit /system files while booted.
Luckily we always had partial root and could do most things when in a custom recovery.
Now with S-Off or Security Off we can have full access like what a normal root on most phones enables.
So technically your wildfire does not have s-off because it was never s-on in the first place.
Lennyuk said:
Most phones until very recently when you have root it automatically has given you full root. On the desire (and probably all new htc android phones) they have added an extra layer of security that locks the nand while in use. This stops us being able to use things like Fastboot, and adb to edit /system files while booted.
Luckily we always had partial root and could do most things when in a custom recovery.
Now with S-Off or Security Off we can have full access like what a normal root on most phones enables.
So technically your wildfire does not have s-off because it was never s-on in the first place.
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In bootloader on my Wildfire:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
CrimzonEyed said:
In bootloader on my Wildfire:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
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+1 alpharev are working on a modified bootloader for the buzz, i rooted and flashed my brothers wildfire yesterday, although rom development looked a bit thin on the ground to me lol as far as i know all htc's come with a security locked bootloader, even back in the days of win mo, we needed hard spl, which was just an unlocked bootloader
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Hi
I want to S-OFF my desire, and just came across the revolutionary tool.
In their documantation file, they say they tested it only on HBOOT 0.93, and 1.02.
I didn't S-off my desire yet so I have STOCK HBOOT (0.90).
has anyone tried to use the revolutionary tool with this HBOOT ?
or if not, is there any SAFE way to change HBOOT (like 0.93) without S-OFF your device?
Alpharev.nl
1)if u try revolutionary, it will say you that ur hboot is not supported of course
2)if you don't have the 0.93 mean u are not up to date..the latest htc stock rom have 0.93 (ar least the unbranded one)
3)0.90? i think is 0.80? is it? it is an older hboot
4)u cant charge hboot if u have the stock one..the stock one is S-ON, mean u cant change it in no way..after s-off, u can change it
5)alpharev.nl could work
I meant to write HBOOT 0.92.0001 .. somehow the numer had mixed up.... that was weird..
anyway, I have an HBOOT 0.92.0001 with a PVT3 (yea, the device is preaty old, bought it about a year ago..)
too bad.. I thought I could do it more easily (and safe) and not go for the IMAGE way.. but if there is no choise, that what I'll do.
anyway, after I'll S-OFF by alpharev's IMAGE, how can I change the HBOOT? just flash it from recovery, or another way should be done?
many thanks for your help!
alhparev will replace ur actual hboot with the 0.93 "hacked hboot" with S-OFF flag (the same is for revolutionary)
after that u can change it (if u need a different partitions table to get more space on the data partition for example) through fastboot command, booting ur phone in fastboot mode
both alpharev and revolutionary do the same, give u s-off replacing ur actual hboot..revolutionary is an evolution of alpharev but only support 0.93.x and 1.02.x
btw to use alpharev first u have to root it with unrevoked
changing the hboot is only to get s-off and have the ability to use different partitions table..no other advantages in it
And of course in the rare event that revolutionary does not work on the old hboot, the old hboot can be upgraded with the froyo ruu
Sent from my Desire running Supernova Extreme - Gingerbread goodness with Unlimited Internal memory
Hi everybody.
Yesterday a friend of mine tried to root my htc. He went through htc bootloader and didnt do it properly so i end up with unrooted phone. Thank god its still working,but im so angry since i know,that he messed up something.We try togheter with process of goldcard and that didnt went through too. So im wondering if anybody know,how to downgrade properly so i can root my phone.
I think before unrooting was on hboot 0.93.001,and know is on 1.0.003 . So please if anybody can help me with some suggestion or anything else i would be realy greatfull.
MY HBOOT :
*** LOCEKD (OOW) ***
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-on
HBOOT- 1.03.0003
Microp-031d
Touch Panel-Synt0101
Radio-5.11.05.27
Thanks and regards from Slovenia
At the moment it is impossible to root your phone. It was a bad idea to unlock your bootloader with the software by HTC. Now you have to wait and hope that someone find a way to root + S-OFF with bootloader-version 1.03.0003.
Hi
Any news for my phone ?
Thanks
unlock it with the HTC utility, then place the attached file onto the root of your sd-card, and boot into the bootloader (not fastboot), when it asks to update click yes, you should then have a custom recovery that you can boot into.
Because you updated the bootloader, there is as of yet no way to get "true" S-OFF and flash one of alpharev's bootloaders, so tough luck.
So as i understand,with above method i can gain root access to load custom roms ?
Aids76 said:
So as i understand,with above method i can gain root access to load custom roms ?
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With that method, you gain access to recovery, giving you the possibility to a) gain root access to your stock ROM (not necessary), backup your nand memory to SD-Card (do before flashing), wipe nand memory, flash root ROMs, and many more features.
bortak said:
With that method, you gain access to recovery, giving you the possibility to a) gain root access to your stock ROM (not necessary), backup your nand memory to SD-Card (do before flashing), wipe nand memory, flash root ROMs, and many more features.
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Aleluja Bortak Thank you very much,for all the help you give me
Regards :=)
What is the exwct meaning and significance of S-OF AND S-OFF device
I frequently came to read this terms so i wanna know what exectly it is...plz help
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
S-ON is pretty much a locked bootloader. Some things are restricted.y.
S-OFF means you have complete control of the phone. Security off. Do whatever you want from whatever mode you want.
S-OFF means "security off" and that the NAND partition of the device is unlocked and writable to. With S-OFF you could easily flash kernels and recoveries directly on phone without a PC.
S-ON restricts partitions and thus prevents us from writing to e.g. boot partition. You are always able write boot with an unlocked bootloader and a PC if you want.
No S-OFF for One X at the moment.