Hi I rooted with unrevoked (now running Leedroid) but I noticed in the bootloader it still says S-ON. Is this normal and wtf does the S stand for?
Thanks!
s stands for security, and has nothing to doo with rooting, s-on means that you can't write to the /system and /recovery outside of the recovery mode, and s-off is not needed to run a custom rom, or use rooted apps... so youre good even with s-on...
Ah ok good, probably fine to leave that on then I guess
And if you should wan't s-off, here's the guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314
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i rooted via unrevoked 3.2.1 and now i need to unroot to return the phone... i downloaded the new RUU but i need to turn S-on first right? i keep flashing the s-on tool and it says it installs correctly but the next time i boot it up it still says s-off. i flashed it like 35 times and it keeps saying s-off, why isnt it working? Please help... time is of the essence.
That is easy. What boot loader are you using? If it is an engineering boot, like the one Needed for cyanogenmod, it will always say s-off. Just flash s-on a few times and then use the ruu. Boot into boot loader after to make sure s is on. Should Be as simple as that.
As the topic says, whats the difference on hvaing s-off and s-on?
I had a rooted Wildfire and never had S-off on it.
Do i gain anything by S-off my desire?
If you don't know what it's for then you don't need it...but it basically gives you FULL root access to the /system partition
S-OFF makes it so you're not dependant on booting into recovery every single time you edit something in /system
Makes life easier.
Most phones until very recently when you have root it automatically has given you full root. On the desire (and probably all new htc android phones) they have added an extra layer of security that locks the nand while in use. This stops us being able to use things like Fastboot, and adb to edit /system files while booted.
Luckily we always had partial root and could do most things when in a custom recovery.
Now with S-Off or Security Off we can have full access like what a normal root on most phones enables.
So technically your wildfire does not have s-off because it was never s-on in the first place.
Lennyuk said:
Most phones until very recently when you have root it automatically has given you full root. On the desire (and probably all new htc android phones) they have added an extra layer of security that locks the nand while in use. This stops us being able to use things like Fastboot, and adb to edit /system files while booted.
Luckily we always had partial root and could do most things when in a custom recovery.
Now with S-Off or Security Off we can have full access like what a normal root on most phones enables.
So technically your wildfire does not have s-off because it was never s-on in the first place.
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In bootloader on my Wildfire:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
CrimzonEyed said:
In bootloader on my Wildfire:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
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+1 alpharev are working on a modified bootloader for the buzz, i rooted and flashed my brothers wildfire yesterday, although rom development looked a bit thin on the ground to me lol as far as i know all htc's come with a security locked bootloader, even back in the days of win mo, we needed hard spl, which was just an unlocked bootloader
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Hi,
My desire is currently s-off, and is normally left as s-off. I dont change back to s-on when I use the phone normally. Should I?
I guess that there is a potential risk all the time that s-off is set, but is this a real risk in reality if the phone is being used normally?
Also I dont use the stock partion tables (I normally use cm r2). Is it possible to apply s-on to non stock partition.
zaphodbeeb said:
Hi,
My desire is currently s-off, and is normally left as s-off. I dont change back to s-on when I use the phone normally. Should I?
I guess that there is a potential risk all the time that s-off is set, but is this a real risk in reality if the phone is being used normally?
Also I dont use the stock partion tables (I normally use cm r2). Is it possible to apply s-on to non stock partition.
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If it's not broken, don't fix it. The only way to restore S-ON is by flashing the stock hboot via PB99IMG.zip, which also restores the stock partitions, so leave it alone.
Hi everybody.
Yesterday a friend of mine tried to root my htc. He went through htc bootloader and didnt do it properly so i end up with unrooted phone. Thank god its still working,but im so angry since i know,that he messed up something.We try togheter with process of goldcard and that didnt went through too. So im wondering if anybody know,how to downgrade properly so i can root my phone.
I think before unrooting was on hboot 0.93.001,and know is on 1.0.003 . So please if anybody can help me with some suggestion or anything else i would be realy greatfull.
MY HBOOT :
*** LOCEKD (OOW) ***
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-on
HBOOT- 1.03.0003
Microp-031d
Touch Panel-Synt0101
Radio-5.11.05.27
Thanks and regards from Slovenia
At the moment it is impossible to root your phone. It was a bad idea to unlock your bootloader with the software by HTC. Now you have to wait and hope that someone find a way to root + S-OFF with bootloader-version 1.03.0003.
Hi
Any news for my phone ?
Thanks
unlock it with the HTC utility, then place the attached file onto the root of your sd-card, and boot into the bootloader (not fastboot), when it asks to update click yes, you should then have a custom recovery that you can boot into.
Because you updated the bootloader, there is as of yet no way to get "true" S-OFF and flash one of alpharev's bootloaders, so tough luck.
So as i understand,with above method i can gain root access to load custom roms ?
Aids76 said:
So as i understand,with above method i can gain root access to load custom roms ?
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With that method, you gain access to recovery, giving you the possibility to a) gain root access to your stock ROM (not necessary), backup your nand memory to SD-Card (do before flashing), wipe nand memory, flash root ROMs, and many more features.
bortak said:
With that method, you gain access to recovery, giving you the possibility to a) gain root access to your stock ROM (not necessary), backup your nand memory to SD-Card (do before flashing), wipe nand memory, flash root ROMs, and many more features.
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Aleluja Bortak Thank you very much,for all the help you give me
Regards :=)
I've been looking at updating my EVO through stock roms, and just recently noticed at some point i have updated to hboot 2.18, though still rooted. Is it possible to obtain s-off at this point? and if so, possible without downgrading and flashing everything to stock and rerooting? my obvious concern here is that, while my info on 2.18 is slight, I have heard it can't be tweaked.
Just curious... Currently am trying Derp3D out as many of the roms I wish to play with (CM9, for example) don't play well with PDroid (a must have for numerous reasons on my system)
How are you still rooted? as in s-off? 2.18 is a locked bootloader so you would have to unlock it to flash recovery. Just not sure what you mean?
As for ICS, its just not there yet for me so I am not any help...
dunno... on bootloader it says UNLOCKED at top, s-on, but have no problems with pdroid, superuser, cwm...
All root-req apps are still 100% functional, too.
basically, i'm looking to get s-off to update the radios, wimax, etc, and still use an older rom that functions with pdroid.
There's a guide by Captain Throwback that explains how to gain s-off with an unlocked, s-on 2.18 hboot. Do a search, you should be able to find it.
plainjane said:
There's a guide by Captain Throwback that explains how to gain s-off with an unlocked, s-on 2.18 hboot. Do a search, you should be able to find it.
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Yes and here is that guide:
http://goo.gl/SM45G