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HiApk vs InsertCoin

Hello there,
I'm looking for a gingerbread ROM with 3.0 Sense to it, and both HiApk and InsertCoin look amazing.
What are the major differences and which is recommended?
Thanks in advance!

InsertCoin is better !i use it for a long time !

Also, I would definitely go for InsertCoin. I tried both, but HiApk was a bit laggy.

Kudos you two

Just FYI, InsertCoin is mostly based on RcMixS.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Another question:
I had my desire rooted by using unrevoked few months ago. I now notice I have ClockWork 2.5 and my device is S-ON.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
Thanks!!

The-Q said:
Another question:
I had my desire rooted by using unrevoked few months ago. I now notice I have ClockWork 2.5 and my device is S-ON.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
Thanks!!
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S-OFF using alpharev, also i would suggest going for CM7 HBOOT if you gonna use InsertCoin, and yes you probably need CWM 3.x.x.x because its supporting new installer scripts which are required in some ROM's.
Use 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08 or 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23 Radio, see which is best for you.

InsertCoin is constantly developed and the stable version is very reliable and fast.

Insertcoin!!!

InsertCoooin

More questions:
1. Which alpharev version should I use?
2. What is the difference between "download" and "PB99IMG" on alpharev website?
Thank you for your time!

HBOOT and recovery...
The-Q said:
More questions:
1. Which alpharev version should I use?
2. What is the difference between "download" and "PB99IMG" on alpharev website?
Thank you for your time!
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hboot partition table
if you mean which HBOOT to use,
then you need
"Bravo Stock 1.8" for ROM InsertCoin a2sd
"Bravo CM7" for the ROM InsertCoin cm7 (hence the cm7 in the name)
The "download" files are for updating the hboot with fastboot command from your computer (you need the ADB toolkit or one the of fastboot GUI interfaces you can find in the HTC Desire development thread).
The "PB99IMG" files are for updating the hboot directly on your phone without computer. It requires to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode and is probably riskier than the computer method.
Anyway you need to first S-OFF with alpharev iso (which will also update the recovery to CWM-AlphaRev 2.5.1.8 with dark blue color and keep the default bravo stock 1.8 partition table) and then you can update the partition table to CM7.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
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Radio
InsertCoin rom does not come with radio.
You should flash the recommended radio. it is better to do it with fastboot command (or GUI tool) from a computer. And it is the only way to do it after flashing the CM7 HBOOT as the cache partition is then too small (5Mb) for allowing radio flashing from recovery.
Recovery fake flash
If you don't want to change your recovery you could try to fake flash the 3.2 recovery when you need it.
Fake flash means to load another recovery (3.2) while in recovery (2.5) by simply applying a zip file. You then have all the feature of the 3.2 recovery without permanently installing it.
1) put the zip with 3.2 recovery on your SD card (zip in thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039954)
2) boot in recovery
3) apply the zip (like you would flash a rom, but it only loads the 3.2 recovery operating system without removing/deleting any file in your phone). You should notice the text color change and a few more options in the menu.
4) enjoy
I've been doing this for all the InsertCoin GB versions (well at least 30 times so...) and never had any problem. This allows to flash zip with amend and edify scripts by selecting either the default recovery or the 3.2.
You can also use the fake flash method to run Amon-RA recovery.
Fake Flash is more or less what what Rom Manager is doing when you use it to reboot in recovery mode (but it only supports a restricted set of recovery versions that have been tuned to work with Rom Manager).
Another benefit of fake flash is that you can still use your old nandroid backups, as it it not recommended to restore with recovery X a backup made with recovery Y.
[advanced] You can also fake flash the img recovery with fastboot from your computer
By the way there are also detailed info in the wiki (it was for the InsertCoin HD but most of it still applies):
http://insertcoin.baadnwz.eu/wiki/InsertCoin_Data%2B%2B_RoM
Hope it helps...

Helps? This is golden! Thank you so much for your time and effort!

I prefer IC, more than HiApk.
I don't mean to be OT but what about IC vs Reflex? I tried both and maybe Reflex is a little faster than IC.

I prefer InsertCoin for gingerbread and Sense over other ROM. I tried both , but InsertCoin is faster and more stable.

1. Why can't I flash alpharev's Bravo CM7 .img immediately?
2. Where is alpharev's livecd .iso? Is it necessary to use it and not to fastboot flash immediately?
3. Why shouldn't I use "unrevoked forever" (1) s-off tool?

1. If s-off goes wrong, it won't change partition table's sizes
2. http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
3. It supports only few Desires

JUst to throw a cat among the pigeons...RCMix, FTW!!

Update:
First of all, I gparted the sd-card (3.5 fat32, 512mb ext3, 32mb swap).
Then I had success doing s-off (I flashed a stock rom prior to that) using alpharev's cd, flashbooted (so easy using these tools on linux) alpharev's Bravo CM7 .img, wiped it all, flashbooted CWM 3.2 and now flashing InsertCoin v45 Nightly <3 <3
More updates soon, and ofcourse, many thanks to all of you!

Update:
It's working quite good, besides few lags and slow-downs of Sense.
Flashed a new radio as well, and right now it seems wonderful.
Kudos to alpharev, baadnwz and all you guys too!

Help needed, InsertCoin Rom stuck at wallpaper

Hi!
After flashing latest insertcoin rom I always get stuck at wallpaper, booting goes fine but then a wallpaper with notification bar shows and I can't do anything.. After a while a screen turns off and I can turn it on again but that's all
I have tried flashing Oxygen ROM and everything works fine but I really want to try Insertcoin one.
Thanks for all answers
I have HTC Desire AMOLED, S-OFF

Malcolm. said:
Hi!
After flashing latest insertcoin rom I always get stuck at wallpaper, booting goes fine but then a wallpaper with notification bar shows and I can't do anything.. After a while a screen turns off and I can turn it on again but that's all
I have tried flashing Oxygen ROM and everything works fine but I really want to try Insertcoin one.
Thanks for all answers
I have HTC Desire AMOLED, S-OFF
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Did you make an extended partition ? Do you have custom hboot or stock ?

original HBOOT so I have downloaded A2SD+ version (not CM7) and I have not yet created and extended partition, going to do it now in Oxygen, hope that helps

Malcolm. said:
original HBOOT so I have downloaded A2SD+ version (not CM7) and I have not yet created and extended partition, going to do it now in Oxygen, hope that helps
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You have to have and ext partition.

yep at least 1gb ext3/4
AND - AS USUAL - IT IS ALL IN THE FIRST POST OF INSERTCOIN THREAD
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It's now working like a charm thanks a lot!
and may I also ask, what what software would you recommend me to flash CM7 HBOOT? Somewhere I read Android flasher but it could also be managed through recovery. Also, is it really worth flashing?
Thanks

1) you must be S-OFF to change your hboot (go to alpharev.nl)
2) you dont flash .img files through recovery, it is done through fastboot mode, and you must have ANDROID SDK set up on your pc to use adb/fastboot commands with windows cmd prompt (or try android flasher, but i strongly recommend you do it yourself, less software means less probability something will go wrong)
3) CM7 version will be faster (apps will run from NAND) and also you will get lots of space for them so this is recommended, yes (note that you cant restore a nandroid of stock hboot rom etc, after changing hboot you must flash a CM7 rom

Malcolm. said:
It's now working like a charm thanks a lot!
and may I also ask, what what software would you recommend me to flash CM7 HBOOT? Somewhere I read Android flasher but it could also be managed through recovery. Also, is it really worth flashing?
Thanks
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I did it manually. http://alpharev.nl/ Android flasher works as well but by the time I would've had finished downloading the operation was done.
Yes, it is worth flashing.
S-OFF and then:
1) Nandroid backup in recovery.
2) Verify the MD5SUM of the file you downloaded against the one in the table.
3) Flash HBOOT with your phone in fastboot mode (Back+POWER) -> 'fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl.img' (change into the correct filename for the HBOOT you downloaded)
4) 'fastboot reboot-bootloader'
5) 'fastboot erase cache'
6) Boot recovery, wipe everything and restore.

and one last question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
here they require 130mB for /system but
http://alpharev.nl/ offers only 145mB version for system...
could that make any trouble?

....
145 is MORE than 130 right ?
seriously

Malcolm. said:
and one last question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
here they require 130mB for /system but
http://alpharev.nl/ offers only 145mB version for system...
could that make any trouble?
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Think about it, the answer is not so difficult to find out.
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Hi guys, I had this problem as well.
I've done the partition okay, my problem is this:
Clean install (after wiping dalvik, cache etc) stuck on wall paper.
however when i revert to my stock nand backup and don't wipe any data and try to install, it works fine (except it messes up the people app so I can't add anymore friends).
Some knowledgable insight would be appeciated as I am loosing some good friends.
Desire AMOLED
insertcoin 1.0.8
stock hboot
S-ON
ext3 - 1gb (made with Gparted)

unbootable desire

i have changed sd partition to have 1gb ext2, converted to ext3 and converted to ext4.
I have installed Cool3d sense rom with sense 3.0 but i forgot to change hboot.
Now when i turn on the phone appair htc quiety brilliand and reboot itself.
How can i install original froyo back now ? I cannot have access to phone, only bootloader and recovery.
thank you

I'm all for helping people, but you have access to bootloader AND recovery?
Use the search button, or just restore your nandroid and start again, doing it properly

Something tells me, that there are dozens of answered questions like this.

Install the HBOOT you need to use that ROM and flash the ROM again.
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if you want to run a froyo ruu, just put your phone in fastboot and run the ruu

left the scene now back and im a noob, help please

I have had a desire for approx 2 years now and was flashing roms like mad when i first got it but now with having a 2 and a half year old and a 10 week old simply dont have time for much.
Would love to flash a new rom as im on a leedroid rom and would like to flash this: MildWild V-3.0.
He mentions that i need the cm7r2 hboot.
here are my details:
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-on
Hboot-0.80.0000
microp-031d
touchpanel-synt0101
radio-5.09.05.30_2
I also have a very old recovery, one by Koush that i used to jailbreak my ps3.
please help me to flash to MildWild V-3.0
cheeers

ajoesmith said:
I have had a desire for approx 2 years now and was flashing roms like mad when i first got it but now with having a 2 and a half year old and a 10 week old simply dont have time for much.
Would love to flash a new rom as im on a leedroid rom and would like to flash this: MildWild V-3.0.
He mentions that i need the cm7r2 hboot.
I also have a very old recovery, one by Koush that i used to jailbreak my ps3.
please help me to flash to MildWild V-3.0
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You don't NEED the cm7r2 hboot. The ROM will flash fine on stock hboot. cm7r2 will give you more space for apps though.
There are many variations on rooting/S-OFF/recovery installing/ flashing these days. For every person who chooses to reply here, you will probably get a different set of recommendations. The following is my personal recommendation:
1) Download the ROM.
2) Save to SD card.
S-OFF:
3) S-OFF your phone using alpharev
4) Flash cm7r2 hboot via fastboot if required
Install a New Recovery:
5) Download 4ext Recovery Updater from the market (free)
6) Run the app
7) From the app, install 4ext Touch Recovery 1.0.0.3 RC3
Backup:
8) Boot into recovery and nandroid backup your current ROM
9) Boot into android on current ROM
9a) Backup all apps with MyBackup Root if required
10) Copy your entire SD card contents to pc in case of screw-ups later (or new partitions)
Partition:
Do you have an ext3 or ext 4 partition on your SD card (between 500MB &1GB)?
If yes, go to (13), otherwise:
11) Format SD card (from recovery) with 500-1000 MB ext 4 partition, the remainder FAT 32
12) Copy SD card contents back to card from PC (with card reader)
Wipe & Flash:
13) Boot back into recovery (Power up while Volume-down button held in, then select Recovery with volume-down followed by power button)
14) Full wipe of phone (Format all partitions except SD card)
15) Flash ROM
16) Boot into Android
17) Restore apps if required
Radio:
18) Flash of newer radio recommended. The one in my sig is popular (not the very latest, but reportedly better battery life than the newer .23 version). You can't flash the zip if you have cm7r2 as the /cache/ partition is to small - you will need to flash the .img via fastboot. Alternatively you could flash the radio.zip after stage (5) and before stage (9).
EDIT (17 Feb): S-OFF is required before using 4ext recovery. Above sequence of events edited to reflect this.

excellent guide thank you very much for taking the time to write that.
I have an issue though, when trying to install 4ext Touch Recovery 1.0.0.3 RC3 everything seems to install fine but when i reboot to recovery its still my old recovery by koush that i used for jailbreaking my ps3.
am i doing something wrong?

ajoesmith said:
excellent guide thank you very much for taking the time to write that.
I have an issue though, when trying to install 4ext Touch Recovery 1.0.0.3 RC3 everything seems to install fine but when i reboot to recovery its still my old recovery by koush that i used for jailbreaking my ps3.
am i doing something wrong?
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I see in the OP that you are S-ON if you want to flash a different recovery you have to be S-OFF.....
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ajoesmith said:
excellent guide thank you very much for taking the time to write that.
I have an issue though, when trying to install 4ext Touch Recovery 1.0.0.3 RC3 everything seems to install fine but when i reboot to recovery its still my old recovery by koush that i used for jailbreaking my ps3.
am i doing something wrong?
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you need to be s-off to flash recovery
more info here

ok thanks but i have flashed cwm mod before and also koushs recovery before ans i was s-on, so i dont understand.....

ajoesmith said:
ok thanks but i have flashed cwm mod before and also koushs recovery before ans i was s-on, so i dont understand.....
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You flash them during rooting via unrevoked? Which will unlock nand to flash recovery
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ajoesmith said:
excellent guide thank you very much for taking the time to write that.
I have an issue though, when trying to install 4ext Touch Recovery 1.0.0.3 RC3 everything seems to install fine but when i reboot to recovery its still my old recovery by koush that i used for jailbreaking my ps3.
am i doing something wrong?
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Hi,
Sorry, been away on holiday for the last week so only just catching up with the thread.
My mistake in post 2. As several others have pointed out, S-OFF is required before using 4ext. I will edit post 2 to show the correct sequence of events.

[Q] PB99IMG.zip not being recognized!!??

Okay so i have been running CM10.1 VJ 4.2.2 ROM for a couple of days now and love it. I have using the stock Hboot so only 140MB of app space. I went onto the XDA page for the ROM and saw it was compatible with Data++ Hboot so I went to Alpharev.nl and downloaded the zip file so I could do it without using a pc. I renamed as "PB99IMG.zip" not .zip.zip or pb99img.zip, I named it properly!
I have s-off and root permissions so everything should be correct so far.
Once I boot into the Hboot screen, it does its usual check for all the img stuff but everytime it comes to the PB99IMG.zip one it says the usual thing "Could not be found/incorrect" or something along those lines. Anyway I have tried this multiple times and it still doesn't work and it is really annoying me now.
If anyone has any ideas that would be useful. I know I could use the pc and android flasher and I probably will end up doing it but it would be useful to know how to do it without in case I want to go back to stock hboot for another ROM or such.
Thanks for any suggestions. I have read the similar post on this but it is quite old now and thought I would start a new one and also no one posted a solution for the PB99IMG.zip way of doing it so don't have a go at me!!
Thanks again

Put the PB99IMG.zip on the root of ur sdcard (not in a folder)
Also do a nandroid backup before u change hboot then once u change hboot, full wipe, reboot recovery and restore backup, reboot.

jmcclue said:
Put the PB99IMG.zip on the root of ur sdcard (not in a folder)
Also do a nandroid backup before u change hboot then once u change hboot, full wipe, reboot recovery and restore backup, reboot.
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It was on my root and I did a nandroid backup. But i have just cleared my SD card and done it again and it worked surprisingly (2nd attempt). I then tried to load my backup and then realised what a noob I was as I was trying to load a backup which was only compatible with stock hboot (Doh!). So I am downloading the Data++ compatible CM10.1 ROM and i am itching to get it going after so long with very little space, I can breathe a little now!!
Thanks for the advice anyway!

Stock hboot
One more query.
If i ever want to go back to stock hboot can i just use the PB99IMG.zip method but use the stock one off the Alpharev site or is it a long and twisted route back?
Thanks for any help

nshyam668 said:
One more query.
If i ever want to go back to stock hboot can i just use the PB99IMG.zip method but use the stock one off the Alpharev site or is it a long and twisted route back?
Thanks for any help
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yh just use the PB99IMG method, i always did.
also if u ever want to use a different smaller rom then i created these hboots for the Desire, all different sizes.
Custom hboots for desire <--- Link