Develop Bugs

[Q] RCMixS 1.7.2 - branded Desire

Hi,
I'm going to risk and ask question. I'm read HTC Desire section for 4 days. More read less know. Too many information (especially when some of them is out of date) i null information.
So, I've branded HTC Desire. I've already made root (Unrevoked3) and S-OFF (Alpharev 1.8) and have Clockworkmod.
I would like to install RCMixS 1.7.2, but I don't know that root and s-off is enought and I can copy zipped rom to desire and install it or I've to make something with radio, install other bootloader - tutorial for RCMixS have a lot of information, so many that I've lost in it.
Can anybody tell me, that root (Unrevoked3) and S-OFF(alpharev) is enough and now I can download RCMixS 1.7.2 and install or I've to do something else ? (I know about wipe, davlik and others).
thanx for help

Go look at the sticky topics that's for noobs in the android dev thread.
Swyped...

No, it isn't enough.
You have to create an ext partition for A2SD (How-to: Noob Proof Everything Desire Guide go to STEP FIVE).
After that it's enough to flash RCMixS_v1.7.2_A2SD+_BravoHboot.zip. That is the Bravo HBOOT version, that means, it's the stock HBOOT and if you haven't changed the HBOOT you're having this one.
The disadvantage of the Bravo HBOOT is, that the Dalvik Cache is on the ext and that means that your phone is slower.
So you can change your HBOOT to CM7 HBOOT and install RCMixS_v1.7.2_A2SD_CM7Hboot.zip
How-to change HBOOT:
Download PB99IMG_bravo_cm7.zip and follow this instructions:
You can also download the corresponding PB99IMG zipfile, put it on your sdcard, and rename it to PB99IMG.zip. Then start the phone in HBOOT mode (VolDown+POWER) to flash the HBOOT without a PC. It is however still necessary to either restore your nandroid, or reflash your ROM after doing this. The partition LAYOUT has changed, the actual data still needs to be 'moved'.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Instruction to flash RCMixS:
1. Download RCMixS_v1.7.2_A2SD+_BravoHboot.zip
2. Download ROM Manager from Market and run the RCMixS_v1.7.2_A2SD+_BravoHboot.zip with ROM Manager
3. Check "Wipe Dalvik Cache", "Wipe data and cache" "Backup current ROM"
4. Now it's going to flash RCMixS automaticly
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Note: The Rom is rebooting three times at the first start.

HiApk vs InsertCoin

Hello there,
I'm looking for a gingerbread ROM with 3.0 Sense to it, and both HiApk and InsertCoin look amazing.
What are the major differences and which is recommended?
Thanks in advance!

InsertCoin is better !i use it for a long time !

Also, I would definitely go for InsertCoin. I tried both, but HiApk was a bit laggy.

Kudos you two

Just FYI, InsertCoin is mostly based on RcMixS.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Another question:
I had my desire rooted by using unrevoked few months ago. I now notice I have ClockWork 2.5 and my device is S-ON.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
Thanks!!

The-Q said:
Another question:
I had my desire rooted by using unrevoked few months ago. I now notice I have ClockWork 2.5 and my device is S-ON.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
Thanks!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
S-OFF using alpharev, also i would suggest going for CM7 HBOOT if you gonna use InsertCoin, and yes you probably need CWM 3.x.x.x because its supporting new installer scripts which are required in some ROM's.
Use 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08 or 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23 Radio, see which is best for you.

InsertCoin is constantly developed and the stable version is very reliable and fast.

Insertcoin!!!

InsertCoooin

More questions:
1. Which alpharev version should I use?
2. What is the difference between "download" and "PB99IMG" on alpharev website?
Thank you for your time!

HBOOT and recovery...
The-Q said:
More questions:
1. Which alpharev version should I use?
2. What is the difference between "download" and "PB99IMG" on alpharev website?
Thank you for your time!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hboot partition table
if you mean which HBOOT to use,
then you need
"Bravo Stock 1.8" for ROM InsertCoin a2sd
"Bravo CM7" for the ROM InsertCoin cm7 (hence the cm7 in the name)
The "download" files are for updating the hboot with fastboot command from your computer (you need the ADB toolkit or one the of fastboot GUI interfaces you can find in the HTC Desire development thread).
The "PB99IMG" files are for updating the hboot directly on your phone without computer. It requires to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode and is probably riskier than the computer method.
Anyway you need to first S-OFF with alpharev iso (which will also update the recovery to CWM-AlphaRev 2.5.1.8 with dark blue color and keep the default bravo stock 1.8 partition table) and then you can update the partition table to CM7.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Radio
InsertCoin rom does not come with radio.
You should flash the recommended radio. it is better to do it with fastboot command (or GUI tool) from a computer. And it is the only way to do it after flashing the CM7 HBOOT as the cache partition is then too small (5Mb) for allowing radio flashing from recovery.
Recovery fake flash
If you don't want to change your recovery you could try to fake flash the 3.2 recovery when you need it.
Fake flash means to load another recovery (3.2) while in recovery (2.5) by simply applying a zip file. You then have all the feature of the 3.2 recovery without permanently installing it.
1) put the zip with 3.2 recovery on your SD card (zip in thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039954)
2) boot in recovery
3) apply the zip (like you would flash a rom, but it only loads the 3.2 recovery operating system without removing/deleting any file in your phone). You should notice the text color change and a few more options in the menu.
4) enjoy
I've been doing this for all the InsertCoin GB versions (well at least 30 times so...) and never had any problem. This allows to flash zip with amend and edify scripts by selecting either the default recovery or the 3.2.
You can also use the fake flash method to run Amon-RA recovery.
Fake Flash is more or less what what Rom Manager is doing when you use it to reboot in recovery mode (but it only supports a restricted set of recovery versions that have been tuned to work with Rom Manager).
Another benefit of fake flash is that you can still use your old nandroid backups, as it it not recommended to restore with recovery X a backup made with recovery Y.
[advanced] You can also fake flash the img recovery with fastboot from your computer
By the way there are also detailed info in the wiki (it was for the InsertCoin HD but most of it still applies):
http://insertcoin.baadnwz.eu/wiki/InsertCoin_Data%2B%2B_RoM
Hope it helps...

Helps? This is golden! Thank you so much for your time and effort!

I prefer IC, more than HiApk.
I don't mean to be OT but what about IC vs Reflex? I tried both and maybe Reflex is a little faster than IC.

I prefer InsertCoin for gingerbread and Sense over other ROM. I tried both , but InsertCoin is faster and more stable.

1. Why can't I flash alpharev's Bravo CM7 .img immediately?
2. Where is alpharev's livecd .iso? Is it necessary to use it and not to fastboot flash immediately?
3. Why shouldn't I use "unrevoked forever" (1) s-off tool?

1. If s-off goes wrong, it won't change partition table's sizes
2. http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
3. It supports only few Desires

JUst to throw a cat among the pigeons...RCMix, FTW!!

Update:
First of all, I gparted the sd-card (3.5 fat32, 512mb ext3, 32mb swap).
Then I had success doing s-off (I flashed a stock rom prior to that) using alpharev's cd, flashbooted (so easy using these tools on linux) alpharev's Bravo CM7 .img, wiped it all, flashbooted CWM 3.2 and now flashing InsertCoin v45 Nightly <3 <3
More updates soon, and ofcourse, many thanks to all of you!

Update:
It's working quite good, besides few lags and slow-downs of Sense.
Flashed a new radio as well, and right now it seems wonderful.
Kudos to alpharev, baadnwz and all you guys too!

[Q] Multiple Issue!!!

I would appreciate if someone can help me...
Now, think that problems started with this new Hboot's (r2)... I installed oxygen r2 hboot just to try AOSP roms.
Now I have cm7 r2 hboot but something is very wrong since I can't flash many roms I flashed before. For example I tried to flash Reflex s (I saw many people on xda with cm7r2 hboot and Reflex s CM7 rom.) It reboots over and over at the point when first sense screen shows. Same thing with Insert Coin or StarBurst ROM.
Furthermore, it shows cash error when I use android flasher for Hboot flash so I flash my Hboot's via Hboot (zip file on sd-card and update), also Amon Ra recovery reports that some E: cash (something) can't be found.
I can, however, flash AOSP roms, and some sense roms (Sense-O-Villian CM7 ROM which i use now), but flashlight stoped working at all some time ago, and yesterday camera went blank and now have no camera also (maybe they broke but I cant figure it out since I can't flash other rom's).
I started to think that problem lies in Hboot and tried to downgrade Hboot 6.93.1002. to 0.93 but don't know how because when I used android flasher with Alpharev downgrade.img file i stucked at Hboot which says Alpharev Unlocked and I dont know what next should be done...
So phone works and also doesn't work and for now I'can't find solution and asking for help... Feels like I stucked on one or two roms... I'm not to experienced but tried to follow rules and threads I found here. Sorry for bad english also!
I partitioned sd card with MiniTool Partition Wizard (FAT32 6,5 gb, EXT4 1,5 gb)
--------------------------------
Desire PVT4 AMOLED, S-Off, Alpharev Hboot 6.93.1002. (cm7r2/oxygen r2) Amon Ra Recovery (latest) ROM: Don't know anymore

okay.. to address some of your issues:
1. The Alpharev downgrader is used when you need to S-ON your Desire. Alpharev HBoots are "locked", so they cannot be overwritten when you run a RUU, so you will remain S-OFF. So when you flash the downgrader, then run the RUU, you will be S-ON as the Hboot is "unlocked" and can be overwritten.
2. Some ROM's will not work on the CM7 R2 hboot because the /system partition is too small, so you would need to flash one with a bigger partition.
3. Try this:
- Backup your current rom (nand backup)
- boot into fastboot and use fastboot commander (requires Java SDK). Go to "Misc" and wipe system, cache, userdata & boot.
- flash the stock bravo hboot with fastboot commander (in the hboot, radio & rec tab - select the hboot.img and click flash SPL) (still S-OFF, just stock partition sizes)
- reboot into recovery and flash a new ROM.
Once you've done that and everything works fine go ahead and flash different HBoots that suit your ROM needs
Hboot MD5 7bd5234711364880de1fa982dcf3a2d6

Thanks for reply, but I did similar thing with android flasher and flashed stock Hboot, but it didnt downgraded my Hboot to 0,93 for Bravo PVT, I stucked with Hboot 6.93.1002, same thing here with fastbootComander... I,ll try flashing old CM7 with commander now... and same thing... i get msg that I cant revert to old Hboot... wich means that I can't flash old CM7 Hboot on Hboot ver. 6.93.1002. And here somewhere is prob. cause I saw that many people have Reflex s CM7 rom on phone but with new CM7r2 Hboot partitioning which means that it's compatible with new CM7r2 and that is logical cause new CM7r2 is bigger than old . It doesn't work for me... it simply reboots all the time and I allways pay attention about rom system partition... and sd card partitions ext3/4 (rom supports etc)
Practicly every ROM I flash rebots itself constantly, for example Villain rom which is compatible with cm7r2 reboots but good thing I have it's nand backup and when I restore everything seems ok...!!!??
Anyway I'll thank you for your help.... one more thing.... i think that I should be able to downgrade somehow without flashing RUU and S-ON again?!

When using r2 hboots, you always have to flash downgrader before you can change hboot (especially when you want to flash ruu). After this you can flash any hboot you want and you will still be s-off.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

MatDrOiD said:
When using r2 hboots, you always have to flash downgrader before you can change hboot (especially when you want to flash ruu). After this you can flash any hboot you want and you will still be s-off.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, tnx for info but how can I flash downgrade?
I mean, I flashed it and get to the poit where Hboot says Alpharev unlocked... what next... how to flash another hboot... With FastbootCmomander maybee? (After I flashed downgrader I flashed again r2 via hboot zip file cause I don't have old Hboot's zip files... but now I'll use FastbootCommander... i have old cm7 here somewhere...
And furthermore... I don't know what is the problem at all... cause I don't have probs with new Hboot but phone started to act weird, as I said, when I flash a new ROM, Villain for ex. it want let me to start using it due to constant reboots at startup and Villain suports CM7r2, cause I flashed it before and I also have nand backup of Villain which works when restored!!?? (now I have Villain ROM) Strange...
tnx

You flash the new hboot like any other hboot before, so with fastboot:
Code:
fastboot flash hboot <filename>
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot erase cache
<filename> is only a placefolder which has to be replaced which the real filename without the "< >".
Did you flash hboot before or after flashing rom? You should always do it before flashing rom.

wait... my HBoot is 6.93.1002 and I haven't got any problems flashing hboots...... and you don't need to flash the downgrader every time!, only need it when you need S-ON when flashing a RUU.

bortak said:
wait... my HBoot is 6.93.1002 and I haven't got any problems flashing hboots...... and you don't need to flash the downgrader every time!, only need it when you need S-ON when flashing a RUU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know, thanks. Was not completely sure the downgrader is needed when you do not flash a ruu. When I change hboot I would always flash the downgrader, just to be on the safe side.

MatDrOiD said:
Good to know, thanks. Was not completely sure the downgrader is needed when you do not flash a ruu. When I change hboot I would always flash the downgrader, just to be on the safe side.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fair do's, I could never be bothered.. and plus it saves me like.. 3 seconds of my time

Well I know all that and I also flashed Hboots without downgrader. But my problem still stands. For some reason I can't flash Roms I mean I can flash but then it bootloops forever. It feels like I have some files on sistem that can't be wiped anymore.
At the other hand when I restore my old nand of same rom, it works, as long as I don't flash mods, kernels or something that changes system, then I get android.
phone force closes on every home key press.
So now I'm bit scared to turn back S-ON and RUU and I'll have to do that because of warranty issue (camera works no more) Urgh...
Sent by mesage in the bottle ...

before you flash the downgrader make sure you flash the right RUU!!! otherwise if you get the wrong one you'll be stuck with S-ON and a ill-functioning phone. It's better for you to have to do it twice than be in trouble lol

I agree... but strange thing happened, after flashing few roms I tought that camera's gone. Yesterday in 2 am suddenly camera reappears and till now works fine. So I dont know if that's hard or soft error. I think it's soft but that's another reason to reflash s-on and RUU and back again, maybe sistem clears itself.
How can I know which RUU is right for my desire? I forgot to backup when did s-off...
----------------------
Desire Bravo Pvt4 amoled, hboot 6.93... cm7r2, rom: villain 2.7 aosp, ra recovery & cwm recovery both...
Sent by mesage in the bottle ...

If your phone's branded you should've made a goldcard so you can flash the WWE RUU's, if it's not branded.. then just flash the latest WWE RUU.
If it is branded, look here, for the right RUU for your phone.. obviously download the RUU for your network.
Secondly, if you made a backup of your original stock ROM, it helps a lot since you can look at the build version and match it with the RUU (What I did )
Or instead of flashing a RUU, why don't you just get fastboot commander, it allows you to wipe system, userdata, cache, boot & recovery.. which would solve your problem.. if there is one in the first place xD

[Q]Problems w/ Installing Sense 3.0 CM7/r2 Roms

Hi all!
I'm a little noobish on Android and customizing it, but I've been playing around and I've been trying to install Sense 3.0 Roms like:
Cool3D RunnyMede v2
Cool3D AceS v3
Aurora v03
Aced Off!
PyramidMod007
And every time when I try to install them I would get stuck at the HTC Splash screen(quietly brilliant); it would just constantly reboot that screen for some reason. I've tried letting it sit for 30 minutes but nothing happened
Here's what I have on my phone:
Revolutionary CWM
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
And my installing procedure is:
1. Backup current nandroid
2. Delete cache, delete user data, delete dalvik cache
3. Install ROM
4. Install the rom converter CM7 --> HBoot.zip
5. Install Dalvik cache to ext. zip file
6. Reboot
I've actually tried installing them on CM7 too, but I reverted back to HBoot because my current rom requires Stock hboot.
Any help would be awesome! Thanks!

Try installing one at a time, rebooting between each one.

That's very weird something u are doing wrong for sure but can't understand what from what u wrote because there is no way that roms with sense 2.1 works and others with 3 no... It's impossible
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

@ craftycarper1
What I did was backup and install one rom at a time, and when it doesn't work I revert back to my original rom, then I would try installing another one hours after or something, and I just repeated the process. I didn't install one on top of another.
@ halaros2
I was just actually trying to install other roms. I'm not sure what you mean by that 2.1 doesn't work with 3.0?
Thanks for the replies!

Are you rebooting after installing the rom?.....or are you installing rom, then Hboot, then Dalvik zip?

You need an ext partition on your SD card, do you not read the requirements before flashing?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

@ craftycarper1
I actually just install the rom, then install the hboot converter.zip and the dalvik zip. Am I supposed to reboot then install the zip files?
@ elliottg61
I do have an 1gb ext4 partition

hiohokaybye said:
And my installing procedure is:
1. Backup current nandroid
2. Delete cache, delete user data, delete dalvik cache
3. Install ROM
4. Install the rom converter CM7 --> HBoot.zip
5. Install Dalvik cache to ext. zip file
6. Reboot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe add one more step before (3)
2.5. Install Hboot CM7/r2
Then replace step 4 with a reboot, making sure the rom works first, then following by installing any mod. When installing mod, also clear dalvik cache before and after

ikidntu said:
Maybe add one more step before (3)
2.5. Install Hboot CM7/r2
Then replace step 4 with a reboot, making sure the rom works first, then following by installing any mod. When installing mod, also clear dalvik cache before and after
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just followed your instruction, did a backup, cleared my data/cache/dalvik cache, installed CM7/r2 to HBoot, it's still giving me the whole constant reboot at the HTC splash screen

hiohokaybye said:
I just followed your instruction, did a backup, cleared my data/cache/dalvik cache, installed CM7/r2 to HBoot, it's still giving me the whole constant reboot at the HTC splash screen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sad to hear that.
Maybe check following things :
1) On Hboot screen, does it show CM7 r2 - S-OFF, once you sure about that, can ignore any hboot installation later, it is because of other problem
2) Does it get to the 2nd stage of the boot i.e. showing "quite brilliant" ? if yes... should be booting to your rom soon, so wait !
3) Boot to recovery, mount sd-card to usb, and use gparted to check if you ext is there, 1GB and it's ext4, the other should be FAT32
- or you can remake it by using the partition sdcard on the recovery, and use gparted to convert it to ext4

This is really strange, you must be doing something wrong but I just can't work out what haha
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

ikidntu said:
Sad to hear that.
Maybe check following things :
1) On Hboot screen, does it show CM7 r2 - S-OFF, once you sure about that, can ignore any hboot installation later, it is because of other problem
2) Does it get to the 2nd stage of the boot i.e. showing "quite brilliant" ? if yes... should be booting to your rom soon, so wait !
3) Boot to recovery, mount sd-card to usb, and use gparted to check if you ext is there, 1GB and it's ext4, the other should be FAT32
- or you can remake it by using the partition sdcard on the recovery, and use gparted to convert it to ext4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1) Should I check the CM7/r2 screen on the Bootloader after installing the cm7/r2 to HBoot converter.zip file? I just did that and my boot loader still shows HBoot. And Yes it says S-OFF.
2) When I first boot up after installing the rom, the "quietly brilliant" screen reboots, so it would load HTC quietly brilliant, then do that over and over again. Am I supposed to wait there?
3) I created the partition with a partition wizard, and I double checked that I have an ext 4 partition on my mac.

1) which ROM are you trying to install ? If it's cool3d or aurora, just install the CM7r2, don't install the converter whatsover, once you get it done you will see CM7r2 in pink at your hboot screen. if you don't know what you're having, just download the new one here http://alpharev.nl/
2) Something went wrong... probably hboot
3) OK

ikidntu said:
1) which ROM are you trying to install ? If it's cool3d or aurora, just install the CM7r2, don't install the converter whatsover, once you get it done you will see CM7r2 in pink at your hboot screen. if you don't know what you're having, just download the new one here http://alpharev.nl/
2) Something went wrong... probably hboot
3) OK
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Attempt #94820
I just tried to install cool3D without flashing the converter, I went to my boot loader, it's showing AlphaRev in pink then:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
Did I do something wrong again?

Last attempt of mine...
Is it "Alpharev CM7 r2" ? If not, install it by downloading the flasher ultilities
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638
Flash the hboot with the tool using the bravo CM7 r2 image from Alpharev website http://alpharev.nl/bravo_alphaspl-cm7r2.img
If you sure it's already CM7r2, then you can go on try AURORA or COOl3D ( dun install the D2EXT version , you will need another hBoot). If still cannot, I suggest you replace your SDCARD and try again.

hiohokaybye said:
Attempt #94820
I just tried to install cool3D without flashing the converter, I went to my boot loader, it's showing AlphaRev in pink then:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
Did I do something wrong again?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If its only showing Alpharev then you are still on stock hboot. If you are on CM7 hboot you will get:
AlphaRev CM7r2
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

ikidntu said:
Last attempt of mine...
Is it "Alpharev CM7 r2" ? If not, install it by downloading the flasher ultilities
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638
Flash the hboot with the tool using the bravo CM7 r2 image from Alpharev website http://alpharev.nl/bravo_alphaspl-cm7r2.img
If you sure it's already CM7r2, then you can go on try AURORA or COOl3D ( dun install the D2EXT version , you will need another hBoot). If still cannot, I suggest you replace your SDCARD and try again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
&@ itachi1706
I actually thought that I could just be on stock hboot and install them then use the ROM converter.zip to boot up the ROM, but I guess not I will give it another try today! Thanks for the help!

hiohokaybye said:
&@ itachi1706
I actually thought that I could just be on stock hboot and install them then use the ROM converter.zip to boot up the ROM, but I guess not I will give it another try today! Thanks for the help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually for cool's roms, you can remain on stock hboot. All you do is flash stock_users.zip after the Rom. Although it is better to be on CM7r2 as it gives more space for apps.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

itachi1706 said:
Actually for cool's roms, you can remain on stock hboot. All you do is flash stock_users.zip after the Rom. Although it is better to be on CM7r2 as it gives more space for apps.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just flashed CM7/r2 HBoot now when I'm at the boot loader it shows:
AlphaRev CM7 r2
and I just cleared my data, cache and dalvik cache and installed the Cool3D rom, still stuck at the quietly brilliant thing again constant reboot of that screen
EDIT: I'm gunna try to recreate my SD card for 1gb ext4
EDIT2: I recreated the partition, everything is working great now! thanks for the help!

Best way to reclaim memory?

I've just bought a used HTC Desire, and after installing only 4 apps (Google Play Store, ES File Explorer, Screen Off and Lock and Swiftkey) it is reporting only 4Mb of free memory. What's the best way of reclaiming memory? Would it be a custom ROM? If so, can anyone recommend something that's very slimline and robust? I don't need the HTC bloatware (including Sense) - just Google Maps, Swiftkey and a few other apps.
The phone is currently running Android 2.2.2, Baseband version 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
Is rooting/ROMing this device pretty straightforward?

The best way is to create an ext partition on your sdcard and use a script (a2sd) to move apps and dalvik cache to the partition. Most custom roms support, or come with these types of scripts. You will also want to change your hboot (internal partition layout) to something more practical that allocates more space to the data partition and less to system and cache. Before doing this you will need to get s-off and a custom recovery. Post your bootloader details (turn phone off, then hold volume down + power to enter bootloader), and i will give you further advice on how to go about doing this.

Chromium_ said:
The best way is to create an ext partition on your sdcard and use a script (a2sd) to move apps and dalvik cache to the partition. Most custom roms support, or come with these types of scripts. You will also want to change your hboot (internal partition layout) to something more practical that allocates more space to the data partition and less to system and cache. Before doing this you will need to get s-off and a custom recovery. Post your bootloader details (turn phone off, then hold volume down + power to enter bootloader), and i will give you further advice on how to go about doing this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your help. My hboot version is 0.93.001 - does that help?

itm said:
Thanks for your help. My hboot version is 0.93.001 - does that help?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. Your hboot is compatible with revolutionary, which is a tool used to gain s-off. S-off basically gives you the power to do stuff.
Install these drivers on your PC: http://downloads.unrevoked.com/HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe
Enable USB debugging on the phone
Download revolutionary (create and make note of the beta key too): http://revolutionary.io/
Unzip the file, and run the executable. After thats done you should have s-off and a custom recovery installed.
Let me know when thats done, or if you need more help.

Chromium_ said:
The best way is to create an ext partition on your sdcard and use a script (a2sd) to move apps and dalvik cache to the partition. Most custom roms support, or come with these types of scripts. You will also want to change your hboot (internal partition layout) to something more practical that allocates more space to the data partition and less to system and cache. Before doing this you will need to get s-off and a custom recovery. Post your bootloader details (turn phone off, then hold volume down + power to enter bootloader), and i will give you further advice on how to go about doing this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Chromium_ said:
Yep. Your hboot is compatible with revolutionary, which is a tool used to gain s-off. S-off basically gives you the power to do stuff.
Install these drivers on your PC: http://downloads.unrevoked.com/HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe
Enable USB debugging on the phone
Download revolutionary (create and make note of the beta key too): http://revolutionary.io/
Unzip the file, and run the executable. After thats done you should have s-off and a custom recovery installed.
Let me know when thats done, or if you need more help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK I've run revolutionary and accepted the option to flash a new recovery (clockworkmod). How I do I get to run an a2sd script?

itm said:
OK I've run revolutionary and accepted the option to flash a new recovery (clockworkmod). How I do I get to run an a2sd script?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First check to see if revolutionary was indeed successful (look for s-off in bootloader details).
Also I would suggest changing your recovery to a better one such as TWRP or 4ext. (clockwordmod that revolutionary flashes is pretty old and there are much better options for the desire).
After that you can pick a rom from the development section. The majority of them have some sort of a2sd script built in.
Then download the rom of your choice and flash using your recovery. Depending on the rom you choose, activating a2sd will differ. Some have it preactivated, while others will need you to run a few commands in terminal to turn it on.

Chromium_ said:
First check to see if revolutionary was indeed successful (look for s-off in bootloader details).
Also I would suggest changing your recovery to a better one such as TWRP or 4ext. (clockwordmod that revolutionary flashes is pretty old and there are much better options for the desire).
After that you can pick a rom from the development section. The majority of them have some sort of a2sd script built in.
Then download the rom of your choice and flash using your recovery. Depending on the rom you choose, activating a2sd will differ. Some have it preactivated, while others will need you to run a few commands in terminal to turn it on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK it seems I now have S-Off!
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the best way of flashing TWRP recovery? Do I need to use ADB bridge?
Also, can you recommend a lightweight ROM that has a2sd built-in?
Thanks so much for your help.

itm said:
OK it seems I now have S-Off!
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the best way of flashing TWRP recovery? Do I need to use ADB bridge?
Also, can you recommend a lightweight ROM that has a2sd built-in?
Thanks so much for your help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry forgot the links. If you want TWRP click on the Show Content button in my signature. Ive got a link there to TWRP for the desire. (instructions are in the post).
Do you want to stick with gingerbread or do you want a more recent 4+ rom?

Chromium_ said:
First check to see if revolutionary was indeed successful (look for s-off in bootloader details).
Also I would suggest changing your recovery to a better one such as TWRP or 4ext. (clockwordmod that revolutionary flashes is pretty old and there are much better options for the desire).
After that you can pick a rom from the development section. The majority of them have some sort of a2sd script built in.
Then download the rom of your choice and flash using your recovery. Depending on the rom you choose, activating a2sd will differ. Some have it preactivated, while others will need you to run a few commands in terminal to turn it on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Chromium_ said:
Sorry forgot the links. If you want TWRP click on the Show Content button in my signature. Ive got a link there to TWRP for the desire. (instructions are in the post).
Do you want to stick with gingerbread or do you want a more recent 4+ rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Perfect - thanks.
A 4.* ROM would be nice, but would it leave me with less memory (and worse performance)?

itm said:
Perfect - thanks.
A 4.* ROM would be nice, but would it leave me with less memory (and worse performance)?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, they definitely wont be as fast as a pure AOSP gingerbread rom, but you have to make some compromises if you want the latest and greatest

Chromium_ said:
Yes, they definitely wont be as fast as a pure AOSP gingerbread rom, but you have to make some compromises if you want the latest and greatest
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
TBH I'm more concerned about the memory footprint than the performance (although obviously the two are related). Would a 4.* ROM occupy alot more memory?
Incidentally I tried flashing a TWRP recovery zip from recovery mode, but kept getting "installation aborted". Any ideas??

itm said:
TBH I'm more concerned about the memory footprint than the performance (although obviously the two are related). Would a 4.* ROM occupy alot more memory?
Incidentally I tried flashing a TWRP recovery zip from recovery mode, but kept getting "installation aborted". Any ideas??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By memory Im assuming you mean storage rather than RAM. With gingerbread roms the system size is smaller, meaning that you can use an hboot that shrinks down the system partition a lot, thus leaving you with much more space on data (where apps go). With 4+ you can still do this to some extent, but not system sizes arent as small as on gingerbread. To give you an idea, at some point while on a jellybean rom i had around 50 apps installed with room for probably about 5 more.
Im guessing the issue is due to the fact that your current recovery is too old. Your other option is to use fastboot to flash the image, or use the PB99IMG method (easier). Download the file from here, then follow the instructions here (use the PB99IMG that i just gave you, not the one from that thread with instructions).

Chromium_ said:
Yes, they definitely wont be as fast as a pure AOSP gingerbread rom, but you have to make some compromises if you want the latest and greatest
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Chromium_ said:
By memory Im assuming you mean storage rather than RAM. With gingerbread roms the system size is smaller, meaning that you can use an hboot that shrinks down the system partition a lot, thus leaving you with much more space on data (where apps go). With 4+ you can still do this to some extent, but not system sizes arent as small as on gingerbread. To give you an idea, at some point while on a jellybean rom i had around 50 apps installed with room for probably about 5 more.
Im guessing the issue is due to the fact that your current recovery is too old. Your other option is to use fastboot to flash the image, or use the PB99IMG method (easier). Download the file from here, then follow the instructions here (use the PB99IMG that i just gave you, not the one from that thread with instructions).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since my main problem is not being able to install the apps that I need (due to lack of storage), I guess a Gingerbread ROM would make the most sense (much as it pains me to admit it). Do you have any recommendations for a fat-free Gingerbread ROM?

itm said:
Since my main problem is not being able to install the apps that I need (due to lack of storage), I guess a Gingerbread ROM would make the most sense (much as it pains me to admit it). Do you have any recommendations for a fat-free Gingerbread ROM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, makes sense. I would go with Mildwilds redux rom. Its themed to look somewhat modern, its got a very small system size and its got built in a2sd (you might not even need to use this since system is so small).
With this rom you can switch your hboot to oxygen r2. This will give you over 330mb for apps and app data (quite a lot compared to 147mb, what you currently have). If you think thats enough, then i would suggest not even using a2sd or creating a partition.
Let me know and ill give you further instructions.

Chromium_ said:
Ok, makes sense. I would go with Mildwilds redux rom. Its themed to look somewhat modern, its got a very small system size and its got built in a2sd (you might not even need to use this since system is so small).
With this rom you can switch your hboot to oxygen r2. This will give you over 330mb for apps and app data (quite a lot compared to 147mb, what you currently have). If you think thats enough, then i would suggest not even using a2sd or creating a partition.
Let me know and ill give you further instructions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK I've now got MildWIld installed - it looks great.
I've looked at the oxygen r2 link but don't quite follow the fastboot instructions - does this require ADB installed on my PC??

itm said:
OK I've now got MildWIld installed - it looks great.
I've looked at the oxygen r2 link but don't quite follow the fastboot instructions - does this require ADB installed on my PC??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fastboot is the harder process. The easier way would be to use the PB99IMG method. On alpharev.nl download the PB99IMG_oxygenr2.zip file. Then rename it to PB99IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sdcard (not in any folders). Turn off the phone, boot into the bootloader and wait a few seconds. It should find the file and ask to install. Press volume up for yes, then reboot once its done.

Chromium_ said:
Ok, makes sense. I would go with Mildwilds redux rom. Its themed to look somewhat modern, its got a very small system size and its got built in a2sd (you might not even need to use this since system is so small).
With this rom you can switch your hboot to oxygen r2. This will give you over 330mb for apps and app data (quite a lot compared to 147mb, what you currently have). If you think thats enough, then i would suggest not even using a2sd or creating a partition.
Let me know and ill give you further instructions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Chromium_ said:
Fastboot is the harder process. The easier way would be to use the PB99IMG method. On alpharev.nl download the PB99IMG_oxygenr2.zip file. Then rename it to PB99IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sdcard (not in any folders). Turn off the phone, boot into the bootloader and wait a few seconds. It should find the file and ask to install. Press volume up for yes, then reboot once its done.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK I now have Oxygen R2 installed and seem to have 145Mb of internal storage free :0)
The only issue I have is that the Play Store app seems to be broken - whenever I open it I get "No Connection" (as if there's no internet connectivity). I'm connected to wifi, and other apps have no problems accessing the net. I've tried rebooting, turning wifi on/off, but no luck. Any ideas??

itm said:
OK I now have Oxygen R2 installed and seem to have 145Mb of internal storage free :0)
The only issue I have is that the Play Store app seems to be broken - whenever I open it I get "No Connection" (as if there's no internet connectivity). I'm connected to wifi, and other apps have no problems accessing the net. I've tried rebooting, turning wifi on/off, but no luck. Any ideas??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google Maps has the same problem - no internet connection. It's as if it's just the Google apps that can't see the internet.
???

Hmmm....the plot thickens. I decided to wipe and re-flash the ROM and Gapps, but after wiping it would not let me re-flash the MildWild ROM - the flash fails. When I boot into Android now the keyboard app seems to be broken - every few seconds I get the error "the application Android keyboard has stopped unexpectedly" (I had previously installed Swiftkey - could that have had anything to do with it?).
So now I seem to have a "broken" ROM - no keyboard and no working Gapps. Any ideas for what I might try??

itm said:
Hmmm....the plot thickens. I decided to wipe and re-flash the ROM and Gapps, but after wiping it would not let me re-flash the MildWild ROM - the flash fails. When I boot into Android now the keyboard app seems to be broken - every few seconds I get the error "the application Android keyboard has stopped unexpectedly" (I had previously installed Swiftkey - could that have had anything to do with it?).
So now I seem to have a "broken" ROM - no keyboard and no working Gapps. Any ideas for what I might try??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wipe and reflash again. Are you still using cwm?