I've just bought a used HTC Desire, and after installing only 4 apps (Google Play Store, ES File Explorer, Screen Off and Lock and Swiftkey) it is reporting only 4Mb of free memory. What's the best way of reclaiming memory? Would it be a custom ROM? If so, can anyone recommend something that's very slimline and robust? I don't need the HTC bloatware (including Sense) - just Google Maps, Swiftkey and a few other apps.
The phone is currently running Android 2.2.2, Baseband version 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
Is rooting/ROMing this device pretty straightforward?
The best way is to create an ext partition on your sdcard and use a script (a2sd) to move apps and dalvik cache to the partition. Most custom roms support, or come with these types of scripts. You will also want to change your hboot (internal partition layout) to something more practical that allocates more space to the data partition and less to system and cache. Before doing this you will need to get s-off and a custom recovery. Post your bootloader details (turn phone off, then hold volume down + power to enter bootloader), and i will give you further advice on how to go about doing this.
Chromium_ said:
The best way is to create an ext partition on your sdcard and use a script (a2sd) to move apps and dalvik cache to the partition. Most custom roms support, or come with these types of scripts. You will also want to change your hboot (internal partition layout) to something more practical that allocates more space to the data partition and less to system and cache. Before doing this you will need to get s-off and a custom recovery. Post your bootloader details (turn phone off, then hold volume down + power to enter bootloader), and i will give you further advice on how to go about doing this.
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Thanks for your help. My hboot version is 0.93.001 - does that help?
itm said:
Thanks for your help. My hboot version is 0.93.001 - does that help?
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Yep. Your hboot is compatible with revolutionary, which is a tool used to gain s-off. S-off basically gives you the power to do stuff.
Install these drivers on your PC: http://downloads.unrevoked.com/HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe
Enable USB debugging on the phone
Download revolutionary (create and make note of the beta key too): http://revolutionary.io/
Unzip the file, and run the executable. After thats done you should have s-off and a custom recovery installed.
Let me know when thats done, or if you need more help.
Chromium_ said:
The best way is to create an ext partition on your sdcard and use a script (a2sd) to move apps and dalvik cache to the partition. Most custom roms support, or come with these types of scripts. You will also want to change your hboot (internal partition layout) to something more practical that allocates more space to the data partition and less to system and cache. Before doing this you will need to get s-off and a custom recovery. Post your bootloader details (turn phone off, then hold volume down + power to enter bootloader), and i will give you further advice on how to go about doing this.
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Chromium_ said:
Yep. Your hboot is compatible with revolutionary, which is a tool used to gain s-off. S-off basically gives you the power to do stuff.
Install these drivers on your PC: http://downloads.unrevoked.com/HTCDriver3.0.0.007.exe
Enable USB debugging on the phone
Download revolutionary (create and make note of the beta key too): http://revolutionary.io/
Unzip the file, and run the executable. After thats done you should have s-off and a custom recovery installed.
Let me know when thats done, or if you need more help.
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OK I've run revolutionary and accepted the option to flash a new recovery (clockworkmod). How I do I get to run an a2sd script?
itm said:
OK I've run revolutionary and accepted the option to flash a new recovery (clockworkmod). How I do I get to run an a2sd script?
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First check to see if revolutionary was indeed successful (look for s-off in bootloader details).
Also I would suggest changing your recovery to a better one such as TWRP or 4ext. (clockwordmod that revolutionary flashes is pretty old and there are much better options for the desire).
After that you can pick a rom from the development section. The majority of them have some sort of a2sd script built in.
Then download the rom of your choice and flash using your recovery. Depending on the rom you choose, activating a2sd will differ. Some have it preactivated, while others will need you to run a few commands in terminal to turn it on.
Chromium_ said:
First check to see if revolutionary was indeed successful (look for s-off in bootloader details).
Also I would suggest changing your recovery to a better one such as TWRP or 4ext. (clockwordmod that revolutionary flashes is pretty old and there are much better options for the desire).
After that you can pick a rom from the development section. The majority of them have some sort of a2sd script built in.
Then download the rom of your choice and flash using your recovery. Depending on the rom you choose, activating a2sd will differ. Some have it preactivated, while others will need you to run a few commands in terminal to turn it on.
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OK it seems I now have S-Off!
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the best way of flashing TWRP recovery? Do I need to use ADB bridge?
Also, can you recommend a lightweight ROM that has a2sd built-in?
Thanks so much for your help.
itm said:
OK it seems I now have S-Off!
Pardon my ignorance, but what's the best way of flashing TWRP recovery? Do I need to use ADB bridge?
Also, can you recommend a lightweight ROM that has a2sd built-in?
Thanks so much for your help.
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Sorry forgot the links. If you want TWRP click on the Show Content button in my signature. Ive got a link there to TWRP for the desire. (instructions are in the post).
Do you want to stick with gingerbread or do you want a more recent 4+ rom?
Chromium_ said:
First check to see if revolutionary was indeed successful (look for s-off in bootloader details).
Also I would suggest changing your recovery to a better one such as TWRP or 4ext. (clockwordmod that revolutionary flashes is pretty old and there are much better options for the desire).
After that you can pick a rom from the development section. The majority of them have some sort of a2sd script built in.
Then download the rom of your choice and flash using your recovery. Depending on the rom you choose, activating a2sd will differ. Some have it preactivated, while others will need you to run a few commands in terminal to turn it on.
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Chromium_ said:
Sorry forgot the links. If you want TWRP click on the Show Content button in my signature. Ive got a link there to TWRP for the desire. (instructions are in the post).
Do you want to stick with gingerbread or do you want a more recent 4+ rom?
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Perfect - thanks.
A 4.* ROM would be nice, but would it leave me with less memory (and worse performance)?
itm said:
Perfect - thanks.
A 4.* ROM would be nice, but would it leave me with less memory (and worse performance)?
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Yes, they definitely wont be as fast as a pure AOSP gingerbread rom, but you have to make some compromises if you want the latest and greatest
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Yes, they definitely wont be as fast as a pure AOSP gingerbread rom, but you have to make some compromises if you want the latest and greatest
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TBH I'm more concerned about the memory footprint than the performance (although obviously the two are related). Would a 4.* ROM occupy alot more memory?
Incidentally I tried flashing a TWRP recovery zip from recovery mode, but kept getting "installation aborted". Any ideas??
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TBH I'm more concerned about the memory footprint than the performance (although obviously the two are related). Would a 4.* ROM occupy alot more memory?
Incidentally I tried flashing a TWRP recovery zip from recovery mode, but kept getting "installation aborted". Any ideas??
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By memory Im assuming you mean storage rather than RAM. With gingerbread roms the system size is smaller, meaning that you can use an hboot that shrinks down the system partition a lot, thus leaving you with much more space on data (where apps go). With 4+ you can still do this to some extent, but not system sizes arent as small as on gingerbread. To give you an idea, at some point while on a jellybean rom i had around 50 apps installed with room for probably about 5 more.
Im guessing the issue is due to the fact that your current recovery is too old. Your other option is to use fastboot to flash the image, or use the PB99IMG method (easier). Download the file from here, then follow the instructions here (use the PB99IMG that i just gave you, not the one from that thread with instructions).
Chromium_ said:
Yes, they definitely wont be as fast as a pure AOSP gingerbread rom, but you have to make some compromises if you want the latest and greatest
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Chromium_ said:
By memory Im assuming you mean storage rather than RAM. With gingerbread roms the system size is smaller, meaning that you can use an hboot that shrinks down the system partition a lot, thus leaving you with much more space on data (where apps go). With 4+ you can still do this to some extent, but not system sizes arent as small as on gingerbread. To give you an idea, at some point while on a jellybean rom i had around 50 apps installed with room for probably about 5 more.
Im guessing the issue is due to the fact that your current recovery is too old. Your other option is to use fastboot to flash the image, or use the PB99IMG method (easier). Download the file from here, then follow the instructions here (use the PB99IMG that i just gave you, not the one from that thread with instructions).
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Since my main problem is not being able to install the apps that I need (due to lack of storage), I guess a Gingerbread ROM would make the most sense (much as it pains me to admit it). Do you have any recommendations for a fat-free Gingerbread ROM?
itm said:
Since my main problem is not being able to install the apps that I need (due to lack of storage), I guess a Gingerbread ROM would make the most sense (much as it pains me to admit it). Do you have any recommendations for a fat-free Gingerbread ROM?
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Ok, makes sense. I would go with Mildwilds redux rom. Its themed to look somewhat modern, its got a very small system size and its got built in a2sd (you might not even need to use this since system is so small).
With this rom you can switch your hboot to oxygen r2. This will give you over 330mb for apps and app data (quite a lot compared to 147mb, what you currently have). If you think thats enough, then i would suggest not even using a2sd or creating a partition.
Let me know and ill give you further instructions.
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Ok, makes sense. I would go with Mildwilds redux rom. Its themed to look somewhat modern, its got a very small system size and its got built in a2sd (you might not even need to use this since system is so small).
With this rom you can switch your hboot to oxygen r2. This will give you over 330mb for apps and app data (quite a lot compared to 147mb, what you currently have). If you think thats enough, then i would suggest not even using a2sd or creating a partition.
Let me know and ill give you further instructions.
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OK I've now got MildWIld installed - it looks great.
I've looked at the oxygen r2 link but don't quite follow the fastboot instructions - does this require ADB installed on my PC??
itm said:
OK I've now got MildWIld installed - it looks great.
I've looked at the oxygen r2 link but don't quite follow the fastboot instructions - does this require ADB installed on my PC??
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Fastboot is the harder process. The easier way would be to use the PB99IMG method. On alpharev.nl download the PB99IMG_oxygenr2.zip file. Then rename it to PB99IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sdcard (not in any folders). Turn off the phone, boot into the bootloader and wait a few seconds. It should find the file and ask to install. Press volume up for yes, then reboot once its done.
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Ok, makes sense. I would go with Mildwilds redux rom. Its themed to look somewhat modern, its got a very small system size and its got built in a2sd (you might not even need to use this since system is so small).
With this rom you can switch your hboot to oxygen r2. This will give you over 330mb for apps and app data (quite a lot compared to 147mb, what you currently have). If you think thats enough, then i would suggest not even using a2sd or creating a partition.
Let me know and ill give you further instructions.
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Fastboot is the harder process. The easier way would be to use the PB99IMG method. On alpharev.nl download the PB99IMG_oxygenr2.zip file. Then rename it to PB99IMG.zip and put it on the root of your sdcard (not in any folders). Turn off the phone, boot into the bootloader and wait a few seconds. It should find the file and ask to install. Press volume up for yes, then reboot once its done.
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OK I now have Oxygen R2 installed and seem to have 145Mb of internal storage free :0)
The only issue I have is that the Play Store app seems to be broken - whenever I open it I get "No Connection" (as if there's no internet connectivity). I'm connected to wifi, and other apps have no problems accessing the net. I've tried rebooting, turning wifi on/off, but no luck. Any ideas??
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OK I now have Oxygen R2 installed and seem to have 145Mb of internal storage free :0)
The only issue I have is that the Play Store app seems to be broken - whenever I open it I get "No Connection" (as if there's no internet connectivity). I'm connected to wifi, and other apps have no problems accessing the net. I've tried rebooting, turning wifi on/off, but no luck. Any ideas??
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Google Maps has the same problem - no internet connection. It's as if it's just the Google apps that can't see the internet.
???
Hmmm....the plot thickens. I decided to wipe and re-flash the ROM and Gapps, but after wiping it would not let me re-flash the MildWild ROM - the flash fails. When I boot into Android now the keyboard app seems to be broken - every few seconds I get the error "the application Android keyboard has stopped unexpectedly" (I had previously installed Swiftkey - could that have had anything to do with it?).
So now I seem to have a "broken" ROM - no keyboard and no working Gapps. Any ideas for what I might try??
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Hmmm....the plot thickens. I decided to wipe and re-flash the ROM and Gapps, but after wiping it would not let me re-flash the MildWild ROM - the flash fails. When I boot into Android now the keyboard app seems to be broken - every few seconds I get the error "the application Android keyboard has stopped unexpectedly" (I had previously installed Swiftkey - could that have had anything to do with it?).
So now I seem to have a "broken" ROM - no keyboard and no working Gapps. Any ideas for what I might try??
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Wipe and reflash again. Are you still using cwm?
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Hi!
After flashing latest insertcoin rom I always get stuck at wallpaper, booting goes fine but then a wallpaper with notification bar shows and I can't do anything.. After a while a screen turns off and I can turn it on again but that's all
I have tried flashing Oxygen ROM and everything works fine but I really want to try Insertcoin one.
Thanks for all answers
I have HTC Desire AMOLED, S-OFF
Malcolm. said:
Hi!
After flashing latest insertcoin rom I always get stuck at wallpaper, booting goes fine but then a wallpaper with notification bar shows and I can't do anything.. After a while a screen turns off and I can turn it on again but that's all
I have tried flashing Oxygen ROM and everything works fine but I really want to try Insertcoin one.
Thanks for all answers
I have HTC Desire AMOLED, S-OFF
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Did you make an extended partition ? Do you have custom hboot or stock ?
original HBOOT so I have downloaded A2SD+ version (not CM7) and I have not yet created and extended partition, going to do it now in Oxygen, hope that helps
Malcolm. said:
original HBOOT so I have downloaded A2SD+ version (not CM7) and I have not yet created and extended partition, going to do it now in Oxygen, hope that helps
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You have to have and ext partition.
yep at least 1gb ext3/4
AND - AS USUAL - IT IS ALL IN THE FIRST POST OF INSERTCOIN THREAD
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It's now working like a charm thanks a lot!
and may I also ask, what what software would you recommend me to flash CM7 HBOOT? Somewhere I read Android flasher but it could also be managed through recovery. Also, is it really worth flashing?
Thanks
1) you must be S-OFF to change your hboot (go to alpharev.nl)
2) you dont flash .img files through recovery, it is done through fastboot mode, and you must have ANDROID SDK set up on your pc to use adb/fastboot commands with windows cmd prompt (or try android flasher, but i strongly recommend you do it yourself, less software means less probability something will go wrong)
3) CM7 version will be faster (apps will run from NAND) and also you will get lots of space for them so this is recommended, yes (note that you cant restore a nandroid of stock hboot rom etc, after changing hboot you must flash a CM7 rom
Malcolm. said:
It's now working like a charm thanks a lot!
and may I also ask, what what software would you recommend me to flash CM7 HBOOT? Somewhere I read Android flasher but it could also be managed through recovery. Also, is it really worth flashing?
Thanks
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I did it manually. http://alpharev.nl/ Android flasher works as well but by the time I would've had finished downloading the operation was done.
Yes, it is worth flashing.
S-OFF and then:
1) Nandroid backup in recovery.
2) Verify the MD5SUM of the file you downloaded against the one in the table.
3) Flash HBOOT with your phone in fastboot mode (Back+POWER) -> 'fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl.img' (change into the correct filename for the HBOOT you downloaded)
4) 'fastboot reboot-bootloader'
5) 'fastboot erase cache'
6) Boot recovery, wipe everything and restore.
and one last question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
here they require 130mB for /system but
http://alpharev.nl/ offers only 145mB version for system...
could that make any trouble?
....
145 is MORE than 130 right ?
seriously
Malcolm. said:
and one last question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
here they require 130mB for /system but
http://alpharev.nl/ offers only 145mB version for system...
could that make any trouble?
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Think about it, the answer is not so difficult to find out.
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Hi guys, I had this problem as well.
I've done the partition okay, my problem is this:
Clean install (after wiping dalvik, cache etc) stuck on wall paper.
however when i revert to my stock nand backup and don't wipe any data and try to install, it works fine (except it messes up the people app so I can't add anymore friends).
Some knowledgable insight would be appeciated as I am loosing some good friends.
Desire AMOLED
insertcoin 1.0.8
stock hboot
S-ON
ext3 - 1gb (made with Gparted)
I'm trying to install a new ROM for a friend (first time I use a Desire) and whenever I try to install a Sense 3.5 ROM (Cool3D Sense 3.5 or BlissMod007 for example), I end in a bootloop. CyanogenMod 7, however, works perfectly fine.
So far:
Flashed newest radio.
Flashed newest RIL.
Flashed cm7r2 Hboot.
Flashed 4EXT 2.2.7 RC5 recovery.
Now what do I do to make the phone work with these ROMs?
What EXT partition did you put on SD card? Did you flash the Right version for CM7 Hboot.
rootSU said:
What EXT partition did you put on SD card? Did you flash the Right version for CM7 Hboot.
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1. Don't know?
2. I used the Bravo CM7r2 on alpharev's site.
1) Ok well these roms are very big. Even with standard Hboot, sometimes there is not enough space so some of the ROM is shipped out to SD-EXT, a partition on SD card that you need to create
2) No, I mean these big roms have a stock version and a CM hboot version. Each version only works on the hboot it was intended for.
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1) Ok well these roms are very big. Even with standard Hboot, sometimes there is not enough space so some of the ROM is shipped out to SD-EXT, a partition on SD card that you need to create
2) No, I mean these big roms have a stock version and a CM hboot version. Each version only works on the hboot it was intended for.
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1. How would I go about creating that partition?
2. Oh, like that. Ye, I made sure to get the versions intended for cm7r2. Seeing as I haven't made SD-EXT, I doubt this is the problem.
The best way is a little long winded. Suffice to say you need to use Gparted. This you can either burn to CD and boot from it, make a bootable USB disk to run it or create a virtual server within windows and use it that way.
The last option I recommend to use VMware, I have a tutorial in my signature for this.
rootSU said:
The best way is a little long winded. Suffice to say you need to use Gparted. This you can either burn to CD and boot from it, make a bootable USB disk to run it or create a virtual server within windows and use it that way.
The last option I recommend to use VMware, I have a tutorial in my signature for this.
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Followed your advice (although I used VirtualBox) and everything worked on first try. Made the partition 768 MB since most ROMs said 512+. I appreciate the quick answers.
No probs
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I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.
macmac2008 said:
I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.
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Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.
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Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.
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Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd
bortak said:
Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd
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He's prolly gonna need it eventually when he decides to try one of those unstable roms out there.
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eventually
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Eventually. OP only wanted CM for now
Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated.
You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)
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Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated
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Take your advice and go somewhere else. ROM Manager both sucks and blows and just causes problems. The only "good" use it does have is the ability to download ROM's straight to your phone. Otherwise steer clear.
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You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
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In most cases
gab_hamelin said:
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
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Should do a full wipe, including boot, system etc.
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After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)
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Do not use ROM manager to make backups. Can just cause problems as already stated. Don't be lazy and do it yourself via recovery, now with 4EXT touch it's easier and simpler than ever.
Yes. Go and flash manually. Rom manager is just a middle man that screws up the process. Dont ever use it at least for Desire coz it really doesnt play well with it. Even after you successfully flashed cyanogenmod.
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Use this fine guide?
I used this very fine guide when I wanted to go further than HTC would let me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
And it is maintained on XDA, which is nice.
Hello
Before i start, just like to say that I spent almost two days to read almost all posts related to my phone, but still feel I need your help.
Ok then:
I own an HTC Desire and recently asked an informatic friend to root my phone, mainly for two reasons:
- In order to install more applications, since it was always with the notification of "low memory space" and still had lots of applications to install and,
- To be able to customize, since I see many colleagues with images and icons very beautiful and I'd like to have that
After the root done, my friend installed the ROM CyanogenMod 7.0.1
I was very happy the phone came to my hands, but even before i start to install the applications i noticed that only had about 70MB free space, and then after installing some, quickly came to 30Mb, even using the App2SD. Frankly it seems to me that this program is working exactly the same way it was before the root. One part goes to the SD but another part is the internal memory. I thought with the root, the entire application would go to the SD.
I also noticed that either the cache or system applications were also in the internal memory and not in SD. So i suspect that something is lacking because something is not right.
Another question I have, and probably can be related, is that applications that came in were the Rom Manager and Superuser. However, if you open the Superuser does not appear nothing, not on the page of the application or the registration page. Do not know if it's normal.
As for the rom manager, any action that I want to do such as Install Rom from SD card, or Download Rom or Check for Rom Updates, or Partition SD Card always shows me the message "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing. Install the Recovery Manager through Rom first " followed by the option Install or Cancel. Has im not an expert, i decided not to install and listen to your help first. What is wrong? what should I do?
I hope you understand me (sorry for my English but im from Portugal) and i wait you can help me.
Thanks
FDinis
1. Search for SD partition guide, a2sd/a2sd+/data2ext guide, Hboot flashing guide, recovery flashing guide, rom flashing guide (in no particular order, get them all), learn and figure out what these are. So before you take a step, you know the risk.
2. Maybe your Desire got RMD Recovery on the recovery partition after rooted. So with your finishing "1." , you should know how to get a ClockworkMod Recovery.
Bad english, hope you know what I try to tell. Learn those and you'll know how to get more ram.
Thank you, but can anyone be more especific?
The rooting process installs Superuser on your phone system partition. Superuser is the app that grants root permissions to other apps. Opening it will just show you which apps have been granted root priveledges which I am guessing are none so far.
Do not use ROM manager with the desire it will cause all kinds of problems. You should already have a custom recovery installed when it was rooted.
To get more space for apps you need to install a ROM that supports A2SD+ (not the same as Froyo A2SD) and partition your sd card. ROMs available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328 There is a guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 Follow steps 5 to 7 (you have done 1 to 4 already). There is another good (perhaps better) guide here http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-updated-17-02-11-a.html and some more general information about rooting here http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/503471-desire-all-things-root-guide.html
Alternatively you could change the phone internal partitions in conjunction with an appropriate ROM but that is more complicated.
I hope this helps.
Nick
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You should already have a custom recovery installed when it was rooted.
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How can i know that?!
Shut down phone, then hold vol down and press power - this will take you to bootloader screen. Navigate using vol up/down to Recovery and press power to select - this should take you into custom recovery.
Edit: do you know how your mate rooted your phone? Post the details shown on bootloader screen, and what your original hboot version and software version is if you know.
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Edit: do you know how your mate rooted your phone? Post the details shown on bootloader screen, and what your original hboot version and software version is if you know.
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How do i do that?
Sorry but i dont have experience in Android
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Shut down phone, then hold vol down and press power - this will take you to bootloader screen. Navigate using vol up/down to Recovery and press power to select - this should take you into custom recovery.
Edit: do you know how your mate rooted your phone? Post the details shown on bootloader screen, and what your original hboot version and software version is if you know.
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Revolutionary
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICRO-031d
TOUCH PANEL - SYNW0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
aUG 10 2010,17:52:18
And now?
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Revolutionary
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICRO-031d
TOUCH PANEL - SYNW0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
aUG 10 2010,17:52:18
And now?
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And now you take 15 minutes of your oh so important life which matters to everyone here and actually READ instead of asking to be spoon fed, before I strangle somebody.
And since it was your "friend" that put your phone in that state, it wouldn't be bad to ask him first for help and explain to you what he did.
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And now you take 15 minutes of your oh so important life which matters to everyone here and actually READ instead of asking to be spoon fed, before I strangle somebody.
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Bortak, why that attitud?
If you read my 1st sentence i already told that i spent a lot of time reading this forum, but unfortunatly i dont have technical knowledge so im affraid of doing something wrong.
You are not obliged to help but if you spent some of your precious time posting here, wasnt it better if you helped instead of criticizing? Isn't that the objective of forums?
Fortunatly there are some guys that do that.
Hold that fury for something more important
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And since it was your "friend" that put your phone in that state, it wouldn't be bad to ask him first for help and explain to you what he did.
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Stankyou
As i didnt like what he has done, im not asking him to do other things
Oh dear, I'll help you move on from this forum.
You have now S-OFF'd your device, meaning you can now manipulate any data that is saved onto your nand (layman's terms: built in) memory.
If you want to do further change, such as changing the operating system on your device, you need to flash a custom recovery. There is a tutorial on my guide on how to do so. Do not ask me which one to flash, remember a recovery is a recovery is a recovery is a recovery - they ALL do the same thing, some may have different features than others.
Once you have flashed recovery backup your ROM.
There are a few different variations of Android, here are A FEW you can choose from, I just picked the first one that picked the criteria.
Sense 2.0/2.1
Sense 3.0/3.5
Stock AOSP Gingerbread
Customised AOSP Gingerbread
MIUI AOSP Gingerbread
AOSP ICS (UNSTABLE)
Once you've decided what ROM you would like to choose, read the forum thread, and find out what HBOOT you need from www.alpharev.io (make sure to check the md5 before flashing, there's a tool that does this for you in resources on my guide). And flash the hboot (tutorial on my guide).
A lot of ROMs also support A2SD. For this you need to have a EXT3 or 4 partition on your sd-card. Use Gparted to make a 1024mb EXT3 or 4 partition on your sd-card. Make sure to back it up beforehand as it will be wiped.
Put the ROM on your sd-card, boot into recovery.
In recovery do a full wipe of boot, system, data, cache and dalvik cache.
Flash the ROM you wanted to use.
reboot.
That's as much help as you'll get from anyone here.
Bortak
Thanks
I'll try to do that, but i'm affraid of doing something wrong due to my (lack of) knowledge.
Well, best way to gain some knowledge is a) to read and b) to try out different things. So please, stop complaining and just do it! Most of us learned how to do things by doing them. And that's also the reason why most newbies get some troll posts when asking things.
This post is not meant to insult you, but just to give some advice. There are very few states where your phone will be totally unusable, so just give it a try.
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Bortak
Thanks
I'll try to do that, but i'm affraid of doing something wrong due to my (lack of) knowledge.
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Replied to your Pm, so check your messages
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As for the rom manager, any action that I want to do such as Install Rom from SD card, or Download Rom or Check for Rom Updates, or Partition SD Card always shows me the message "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing. Install the Recovery Manager through Rom first " followed by the option Install or Cancel. Has im not an expert, i decided not to install and listen to your help first.
Thanks
FDinis
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Looks like you haven't got a custom recovery flashed. If you are going to use ClockWorkRecovery then next time when it asks you to flash CMW recovery say Yes and follow the instructions. Personally, I prefer 4EXT recovery (you can search for it in Google play store). But you need a custom recovery on your rooted phone before you can start tinkering with it.
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Looks like you haven't got a custom recovery flashed. If you are going to use ClockWorkRecovery then next time when it asks you to flash CMW recovery say Yes and follow the instructions. Personally, I prefer 4EXT recovery (you can search for it in Google play store). But you need a custom recovery on your rooted phone before you can start tinkering with it.
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you're rocketing your way to 10 posts very quickly...spreading a little bad advice along the way
- you need to be s-off before you can start tinkering with recovery
- also, he has already been advised correctly not to use ROM manager at all...
1.Just install 4ext app from Google Play
2.Flash with it 4ext recovery, boot into recovery and do a backup of your current rom
4.download the customrom zip of your choice.
3.download the required hboot and flash it.
5.boot from the 4ext app into recovery do a full wipe
6. go to install zip from sd ( if needes toggle veryfication off before)
7.Reboot
8. finish
7.Have fun
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- you need to be s-off before you can start tinkering with recovery
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If i recall correctly, the timeline i followed was
stock rom
got my self root and custom recovery (clockwork) ( unrevoked.com)
custom rom, on stock hboot
s-off, custom hboot, custom rom with more space for data (alpharev.nl)
so a custom recovery without s-off is possible
Ive always been running CM roms since I got the phone nearly two years ago, but recently have been reading too many good things about ICS roms. My phone has been laggy as of late, and honestly after nearly 2 years, I wanna see and try something new. I've been reading some stuff about updating 4EXT or something like that. Can someone link me or explain in great details how i do this? What is it? And if I do that, will i still be able to run my old CM rom if i decide the ICS roms arent for me? I dont want to be unable to roll back.
Whats the best ICS roms out there right now?
Many thanks!
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SOLVED AFTER A STEP BY STEP INSTALLATION WITH KB!! MANY THANKS
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Ive always been running CM roms since I got the phone nearly two years ago, but recently have been reading too many good things about ICS roms. My phone has been laggy as of late, and honestly after nearly 2 years, I wanna see and try something new. I've been reading some stuff about updating 4EXT or something like that. Can someone link me or explain in great details how i do this? What is it? And if I do that, will i still be able to run my old CM rom if i decide the ICS roms arent for me? I dont want to be unable to roll back.
Whats the best ICS roms out there right now?
Many thanks!
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Depends on your definition of best, personally I like EliteMod ICS (in my signature) but you may want to try out Andromadus Mimicry 1.3.0, it's pretty nice out of the box and has a graphical installer (aroma).
Just be aware that due to the fact that the Desire-Z/G2 does not have an official ICS release, that some things such as hardware drivers have their limits.
1) Camera drivers are not fully available, so the camera won't function as well as it would have on a GB rom.
2) No Wireless-N, also due to drivers, but Wifi-B/G are available.
and a number of other smaller issues which are mentioned varying on the roms, but the two above are the most common complaints, something to keep in mind before you start updating the thread about lack of it.
4EXT Recovery is just another recovery, like ClockworkMod is another recovery.
I personally prefer 4EXT Touch Recovery ( http://www.4ext.net/ has the app to install it ), but both ClockworkMod (what you may have now) and 4EXT can create backups, and restore your backups to the phone (just make sure you do a factory-reset/wipe cache, when you're flashing a brand new rom on, and when you wish to restore a backup.)
So i can flash ics roms with clock work mod and not use 4ext?
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So i can flash ics roms with clock work mod and not use 4ext?
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You can, they're both recoveries and will both apply a rom zip. I just find 4EXT to have quite a bit more features that pertain to ICS (i.e.: the ability to convert some of your partitions from the older ext3 filesystem to the ext4 filesystem which is better, but not all roms support it, most ICS roms do though), as well as the ability to do tar-based backups (compresses, smaller backup size), and the paid version of the app lets you configure a number of settings in 4EXT (much like the paid version of Rom Manager).
Just don't flash roms via the app, always do that from the actual recovery, or you risk causing problems.
Generally speaking: Reboot into recovery (you can do this from the power menu in CM7.2)
1) Perform a backup of your currently installed Rom to the SD card
2) (toggle USB storage and copy over the rom zip if you haven't already done so)
3) Perform a Factory Reset/Wipe and wipe cache
4) Goto Apply zip from SD Card and select the new ROM
5) Flash any additional zips you want on top, google apps, wifi calling, etc (note the thread for any specifics, for example Mimicry doesn't come with Google Apps so need to flash the ICS google apps if you want them, where as EliteMod includes a custom set of google apps already)
6) reboot and enjoy.
If you decide you don't like it, just repeat the above steps, just do a restore at #4 and reboot.
Both of the ones I mentioned (mimicry, elitemod) by no means require a swap partition or sd-ext partition, but you can partition the card via either clockworkmod or 4EXT, just skip the sd-ext2 option (since elitemod doesn't support a secondary one [and not much point either). And don't set a sd-ext size less than 1.5GB (no sense in making it smaller than your /data partition).
For both though, skipping an SD swap is advised, I only have SD swap on mine cuz no other rom I know of supports dataswap and I'd rather have my SD Card partitioned already to test out other roms than to re-do the SD Card each time (since you gota make sure to back up the content of the SD Card to the PC). 4EXT though will let you repartition the SD card without erasing the FAT32 partition, where as clockworkmod will always wipe the whole card before repartitioning (it's just easier to partition from scratch though).
Yeah the whole partition and swapping was the confusing part. But good to hear I don't have to do any of that. I did see the gapps zip included in the mimicry thread, but where can I find a wifi calling apk to install? Also +1 thanks to u for the detailed reply! Thanks!
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Yeah the whole partition and swapping was the confusing part. But good to hear I don't have to do any of that. I did see the gapps zip included in the mimicry thread, but where can I find a wifi calling apk to install? Also +1 thanks to u for the detailed reply! Thanks!
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In Mimicry the Aroma installer will actually let you pick that option during the graphical install. It's one of those roms that presents you with a nice installation menu after you select the zip to be applied. Just bear in mind though you need the 26.13.04.19 radio in order to use the T-Mobile Wifi calling app (and course be on T-Mobile). EDIT If you're one of those people who end up getting no WIFI at all after flashing the Wifi calling app from the aroma installer and have the 26.13.04.19 radio, in the first post of the mimicry thread there's a mention of a Wifi-Fix app you can install that might be able to fix that.
For EliteMod ICS, you would apply it by downloading the zip in my signature (for the wifi calling) and flashing that after flashing the rom. But again, needs the 26.13.04.19 radio, as the app won't work with an old radio (26.03.*)
The thread on applying the radio is also linked from my signature , if you're on a T-Mobile G2, you can just grab the first 26.13.04.19 zip file, rename it PC10IMG.zip just like the instructions say there, put it on the SD Card, reboot into the boot loader and apply the radio. Also if you're planning on flashing either mimicry or Elitemod immediately after flashing the new radio, both roms already Clean your EFS partition for you when you install them in recovery, so you don't have to run the EFS wipe zip (something you normally need to flash in recovery after changing a radio).
KB suggested EliteMOD to me a few days ago,...... Gota say it is running vnice at the moment, highly recommend it. w/ SD EXT, no swap.
I downloaded the zip file from the Andromadus thread, and proceeded to flash the ROM. It says the flash was successful, however upon rebooting, I would see the HTC screen but it would never make it to the boot animation. I would just get a black screen. I tried flashing through ClockWorldMod v5. I cleared all data and caches, and then flashed the ROM.. still not working?
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I downloaded the zip file from the Andromadus thread, and proceeded to flash the ROM. It says the flash was successful, however upon rebooting, I would see the HTC screen but it would never make it to the boot animation. I would just get a black screen. I tried flashing through ClockWorldMod v5. I cleared all data and caches, and then flashed the ROM.. still not working?
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What's the exact details of your phone, i.e.: hboot information and radio version.
I flashed the radio from your signature. Hboot information: 0.82.0000
blkjack said I needed to do a superwipe. If that is the case, how would I perform one?
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I flashed the radio from your signature. Hboot information: 0.82.0000
blkjack said I needed to do a superwipe. If that is the case, how would I perform one?
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hboot in my signature is a 0.84.2000 which is a desire-z engineering hboot.
0.82.000 would be an S-ON hboot which you wouldn't be able to change much at all. (which would be odd if you managed to get the 26.13.04.19 radio flashed, while S-On since it wouldn't normally allow you to).
May want to reboot into the boot loader mode and verify all your hboot information.
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hboot in my signature is a 0.84.2000 which is a desire-z engineering hboot.
0.82.000 would be an S-ON hboot which you wouldn't be able to change much at all. (which would be odd if you managed to get the 26.13.04.19 radio flashed, while S-On since it wouldn't normally allow you to).
May want to reboot into the boot loader mode and verify all your hboot information.
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I flashed a radio in the past. And it clearly says I have S-OFF on the top. I had the (26.03.02.26) radio before. And it did successfully flash the radio linked from your signature. HBoot says 0.82.0000. Where to go now?
EDIT: I found this link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992) but dunno if this is outdated or not. If not, which of the three files do I want?
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I flashed a radio in the past. And it clearly says I have S-OFF on the top. I had the (26.03.02.26) radio before. And it did successfully flash the radio linked from your signature. HBoot says 0.82.0000. Where to go now?
EDIT: I found this link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044992) but dunno if this is outdated or not. If not, which of the three files do I want?
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I think, the -=SuperWipeG2+=-.zip should be the right one, but as I'm not sure, I did a quick Google search for you and found this:
EdKeys said:
I recently flashed the new 4EXT Mod of ClockworkMod Recovery. The 4EXT Recovery is based off of Koush's CWM Recovery but offers additional power options, one of which is the ability to show the file system format your partitions are formatted in. To my surprise my system was formatted in the Ext 4 format and my data and cache partitions were formatted in Ext 3. The new 4EXT Recovery offers the option to convert the format without deleting any of the data. Your ROM will stay intact after the conversion. I selected that option and changed my data and cache partitions to ext 4 to match my system, rebooted, and notice quite an improvement in speed and smoothness in my current CM7 Nightly. After looking into it further I found out that the SuperwipeG2 that many of us have been flashing is formatting our partitions in the Ext 3 format. The reason only my system was formatted in ext 4 is because I used ClockworkMod Recovery the last time I did a full wipe to first flash the Superwipe, and then I immediately formatted system again with ClockworkMod Recovery. If you've used SuperwipeG2 to do a wipe, more than likely your system, data, and cache partitions are now Ext 3. You might want to check with your ROM developer to see if your ROM will run on the Ext 4 format. If its a CM7 based ROM, it will.
You can find more information about the Ext 4 format here.
Tsubus has since modified SuperwipeG2 so that it now formats the partitions into ext 4 when you flash it. I've used it and it also includes the EFS wipe. You can find it here. As I said, if there is no reason to wipe right now the new 4EXT Recovery can convert your partitions if you choose if they are in currently Ext 3. At the very least you can see what format they're currently in with 4EXT. I highly recommend it. You can always flash back to CWM Recovery if and when you choose. The partitions will remain Ext 4 once you choose to convert.
UPDATE: Several users have reported that checking partition information with Terminal Emulator is not reliable.
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This one should definitely be the right one.
Besides that, the problem might also be a bad download, as your symptom fits a known issue in blk_jack's thread:
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Q) After flashing I'm stuck at the HTC logo screen!
A) This is likely the result of a bad download. Check your downloaded md5sum hash against the one listed next to the download link above....
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I thought it was a bad download too, so I downloaded from one of the mirrors. Still the same problem.
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I thought it was a bad download too, so I downloaded from one of the mirrors. Still the same problem.
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So you did not check the MD5 hash?
Im a bit of a noob and all of this wasnt around when I was flashing CM roms ages ago. How do I do that? Would that fix my issue??
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Im a bit of a noob and all of this wasnt around when I was flashing CM roms ages ago. How do I do that? Would that fix my issue??
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An MD5 hash is something like a fingerprint of a file and it was definitely there when you first flashed CyanogenMod ROMs. The MD5 hash/sum is used to compare two files because it is possible that a downloaded file is slightly different from the original file due to mistakes that could have happened during transfer. So "checking the MD5 hash" means using a program to calculate that "fingerprint" of your downloaded file and comparing it with the "fingerprint" mentioned in blk_jack's thread. If the file you have downloaded is slightly different, its MD5 hash will be different from the MD5 hash that it should have and thus will be unusable and lead to a phone being stuck at HTC boot logo.
By the way, downloading a file from two different mirrors doesn't exclude the risk of getting a corrupt file.
I ran "md5 update.zip" from my Mac's desktop where the file is located. I was returned MD5 (update.zip) = 2a314e5f1361825c83a354aea38c6c4b .. which matches the md5sum of what was given. What next?
And I noticed you have the same H-Boot information that KB was talking about earlier, so I guess that can't be the problem either. Should I just try to Superwipe?
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Ok, so if it is a bad download, how do you remedy it? Because there are only so many options to download the ROM right. And what program are you referring to
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There are actually lots of programs to calculate an MD5 hash. If you are on Linux it usally is as easy as typing md5sum <path to file> in a shell and reading the output. If you are on Windows, I'd recommend a Google search for "md5 generator" or something like this. Maybe even your recovery is able to calculate a file's MD5 hash - I'm using 4EXT and it definitely is, though I don't know if ClockwordMod is.
You can't remedy a bad download except trying to download it again, hoping that the file will be transferred right.
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I ran "md5 update.zip" from my Mac's desktop where the file is located. I was returned MD5 (update.zip) = 2a314e5f1361825c83a354aea38c6c4b .. which matches the md5sum of what was given. What next?
And I noticed you have the same H-Boot information that KB was talking about earlier, so I guess that can't be the problem either. Should I just try to Superwipe?
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Oh, sorry - didn't update the thread's page before submitting my reply.
Just try it, there should be nothing wrong with it.
Okay, I read that I should manually clear all the data and cache first and THEN run the superwipe, followed by installing the ROM right? And I will be downloaded from the thread I listed because I still have ext3 I guess and don't want to deal with a ext4 change right now.