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Hi
I have purchased a HTC Desire HD and it is running MoDaCo Custom Rom r3
Can I install "Android Revolution HD™ 5.2.5" without downgrading?
The software number is 1.72.405.3
Kernel - 2.6.32.21- g3d0aaff
Thanks in advance

yes,you can...through recovery

Hi Mate
Thanks for the reply
I have never rooted a phone so can you please explain what you mean by recovery?
Is it a case of downloading the zip file and transferring this over to the SD card then booting the phone into recovery mode via vol+power button and selecting an option in there?

romeospadre said:
Hi Mate
Thanks for the reply
I have never rooted a phone so can you please explain what you mean by recovery?
Is it a case of downloading the zip file and transferring this over to the SD card then booting the phone into recovery mode via vol+power button and selecting an option in there?
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Yes. Do a backup (nandroid) in recovery and do a complete whipe and then flash the new ROM you want. Be sure to read all the steps in the ROM install guide.

You need to root your device in order to perform activity or processes that otherwise cannot be done. It basically means, sort of like "hacking" the device so that you can do anything with it. (eg modifying system data)
You have to downgrade your device to 1.32xxxxx so that you can use Visionary app to root your device. Here is your guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996
You must have S-OFF first to install recovery image.
Cheers.

I thought if it already had a custom rom it would be rooted already?
See if you have an app caled rom manager as you should be able to go through that.
Have a look in mikes thread, read everything!
google search etc... I did 4-5 hours reading before fiddling to make sure I understood what I was doing and in which order.

I think superstick1 misread the OP. Phone already has a custom ROM as stated by the OP.

Thanks for the replys, the is already rooted so I have placed the image on my SD card and installed it that way, i thought id messed up as the HTC white screen on boot stayed that way for a few minutes before giving me the setup.
Pleased with it, now hoping to customise it, any add ons recommended?
Cheers

Stuck in bootloop

Hello,
Today I attempted to root my HTC Desire. I used this site ( youtube.com/watch?v=kvg0i8in96M ) to do so.
I installed several programs that required SU access to check if the rooting was succesful.
I downloaded SystemAppRemover to remove some of the originally installed pieces of software. Unfortunately that didn’t work out too well: some of the buttons on the Phone aren’t responding anymore. So I figured, let’s turn off the Phone and turn it back on.
Then the next program revealed itself: the Phone wont boot, its trapped in the booting proces. I read elsewhere online that I should try to revert to the original firmware, but I have no idea how to do that.
Can anybody advice on this please? I used android 2.3 before.
Thanks in advance,
Veldscholte

Recovery working? Have you done any back up before you tried that app?
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First backup is for saving a lot of troubles, like this one... Was it not worth to make it? You can flash any custom ROM or you can flash ruu-see bortak guide from stickies I'm on the phone limitation of resources ATM
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I see that you're running Runnymede 5.0.3. Looking through the ROM's thread, i've found that it requires that you have an EXT partition on the SD card and that your phone is S-OFF, both of which, i believe, your phone lacks. That might be the reason why it's stuck at the bootscreen.
Runny 5.0.3 ROM's thread said:
REQUIREMENTS:
- CM7r2 or stock HBOOT (from Alpharev)
- Must be S-OFF! (see S-OFF guide).
- A 1GB ext4 partition (see partition guide for 4EXT Recovery).
- A recovery with touch drivers: I recommend 4EXT Recovery. Optional but recommended.
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Before installing ANY ROM, please read its thread carefully. Some ROMs require various types and sizes of EXT partitions, others require different HBOOTS etc. If you don't follow the instructions properly, you will get bootloops.
From my understanding, you are now running the stock HBOOT (250 MB of /system space). If your phone is network-free (unbranded), you should download the latest 2.2 stock RUU from HTC, install it on your phone and that'll solve all of your problems (use Search). You can root/S-OFF afterwards and install any ROM that your heart desires (making sure you follow instructions, this time).

If you read his first post and watched video, he is s-off with stock hboot as he used revolutionary to get root... i think he is missing only ext4 partition and touch recovery

First off. ALways do a Nandroid backup from within recovery. This would have given you the option to restore your original rom,"with S-Off".
Head over to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200261
download and install from recovery,"Wipe data/factory reset & dalvik cache first"
please read Bortaks Guide before messing to much wth your phone.

Go to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
download Install Gparted Live either on CD or USB
Read instructions from site.
Do not use recovery to format ext3 or ext4. This will only lead to errors.

Veldscholte said:
Hello guys. Thanks for all the reply's. I'm sorry to say it, but I'm a beginner in this area. What is the best thing I can do now? How do I format all my partitions into ext4?
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Why do you want to format ALL of your partitions to EXT4? You phone needs a FAT32-partition as well.
So if the ROM you flashed or you want to flash needs an EXT4-partition, backup all important data on your SD card, boot into recovery and partition your SD card with FAT32-partition plus an EXT4-partition with 1 GB (I recommend 1 GB because it will be compatible with nearly every ROM you find here) and copy all data back on FAT32-partition.
You can do this operation either in recovery (worked always well for me) or with GParted. Just do not use software like MiniTool Partition Wizard or any other Windows software which "deals" with EXT-partitions, because these types are Linux-partition-types and I would not trust Windows there if you want to have the rewards of your SD card.
In Q&A you can and will find a very good noob guide which will help you a lot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
If you still have questions / problems, use the search. And if there is still something that bothers you, ask your question here in Q&A.
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bored_stupid said:
Go to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
download Install Gparted Live either on CD or USB
Read instructions from site.
Do not use recovery to format ext3 or ext4. This will only lead to errors.
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This is just not true. Recovery is an easy and very good way to partition your SD card and will work well nearly every time. I cannot remember any partitioning errors (can you name at least one anyway?) or rather problems caused by partition with recovery. As far as I remember, the causes were always crap software like Rom Manager or MiniTool Partition Wizard or something like that.

MatDrOiD said:
Why do you want to format ALL of your partitions to EXT4? You phone needs a FAT32-partition as well.
So if the ROM you flashed or you want to flash needs an EXT4-partition, backup all important data on your SD card, boot into recovery and partition your SD card with FAT32-partition plus an EXT4-partition with 1 GB (I recommend 1 GB because it will be compatible with nearly every ROM you find here) and copy all data back on FAT32-partition.
You can do this operation either in recovery (worked always well for me) or with GParted. Just do not use software like MiniTool Partition Wizard or any other Windows software which "deals" with EXT-partitions, because these types are Linux-partition-types and I would not trust Windows there if you want to have the rewards of your SD card.
In Q&A you can and will find a very good noob guide which will help you a lot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
If you still have questions / problems, use the search. And if there is still something that bothers you, ask your question here in Q&A.
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This is just not true. Recovery is an easy and very good way to partition your SD card and will work well nearly every time. I cannot remember any partitioning errors (can you name at least one anyway?) or rather problems caused by partition with recovery. As far as I remember, the causes were always crap software like Rom Manager or MiniTool Partition Wizard or something like that.
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Apologies, what i should have said was," could possibly cause problems ". I have occasionally had problems with some fussy roms boot-looping after installation, but after reformatting in Gparted, they have worked," this could be coincidence though ". I fully agree with you on the likes of Rom Manager and MiniTools.

Veldscholte said:
***This method only works for users with hboot 0.93 and lower. Sorry 1.06 users, but until unrevoked updates, your stuck on stock htc***
I have hboot 6.93.1002..
Edit: Now I have an ext4 partition on my sd card. How can I install any custom rom on that partition? Windows can't read it.
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Please do some research about installing ROMs etc. You clearly did not even understand the basics.

What hboot do you have? Still the same as first post? Post info from hboot/fastboot, why did you run RUU?
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Ok, flash recovery via fastboot
Fastboot flash recovery "name of recovery IMG file"
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Veldscholte said:
What image file do I need to flash?
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The recovery.img-file.

for rmd recovery see my signature as you have no system yet... flash it then you can flash custom rom

Does RMD backup and restore .android_secure properly now?
Personally I wouldn't recommend anything other than cwm 2.5.0.7 or amonRA 2.0.1 depending on erase size to a newbie
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It should have... i remember there was conversation between you and rastaman if im right... but since new version came out 1.0.3.5, i was using 1.0.3.4 without any problem then I changed over to 4ext... I can't be 100% it was fixed... Can you have a look please?
yes i know cwm or amon ra but these have usb brick function i dont want to have him back if it will happen
Just in case 4EXT recovery
MD5 2D75F6EE7626D98F84E148C2BD8C0855

boot phone to fastboot, connect to pc and run in cmd:
fastboot devices
if you get any HTxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx number you can proceed to flashing recovery

kotag82 said:
It should have... i remember there was conversation between you and rastaman if im right... but since new version came out 1.0.3.5, i was using 1.0.3.4 without any problem then I changed over to 4ext... I can't be 100% it was fixed... Can you have a look please?
yes i know cwm or amon ra but these have usb brick function i dont want to have him back if it will happen
Just in case 4EXT recovery
MD5 2D75F6EE7626D98F84E148C2BD8C0855
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I haven't recommended 4ext to anyone yet, Ive still been recommending what I mentioned, but Ive been using it solidly for a good few weeks now and I think I am about ready to start recommending it...
Veldscholte said:
How can I use fastboot if I can't get an adb connection?
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adb and fastboot are 2 totally different things. It just happens that they both are command line and used to communicate with your android phone. The similarity ends there.
Do what Kotag said.
If you click the link to my guides in my signature, I have an adb and fastboot faq that may be of use to you.

Is it boot loop or stuck on splash screen?
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That splash, that means booting process did not started
What hboot you have, I presume you flashed seb15 Runny, what version? Sd ext done properly?
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[Q] Ways of flashing custom rom. How to install cyanongenMod.

I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.

macmac2008 said:
I'm using a GSM HTC Desire I bought a year ago. Its currently running froyo 2.2. I've used unrevoked to root my phone and did the s-off produce using alpharev a while ago. I'm now trying to flash a custom rom onto it. I read through a couple of tutorials and found out 2 ways to do it. One is to install ROM manager but I have to do a "flash ClockworkMod Recovery" in the software which I don't know if I should do. Another is to download the custom rom and install it through recovery mode by holding on power and volume down.... Is there a difference?
Also reading CyanongenMod installation procedures "3. Update your radio! New radio from HTC 2.2+ roms is required (Desire Radio Thread)." came up and I don't if I need to do this.
Thanks in advance.
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Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.

25092992 said:
Personally IMO i would never use ROM manager. I would upgrade your recovery to '4EXT recovery touch' first, search the forum for the guide, its simple enough.
You should also partition your memory card so it has an EXT partition on it. I would recommend using Gparted to partition the sd.
IMO i would leave the radio update for now.
Search for a suitable ROM to flash, download it, put it on your SD card, go into recovery and flash.
There are loads of guides in the forum just look and follow step by step, if you do everything completely to the guides you will not have a problem.
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Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd

bortak said:
Why would he need to waste his time, effort and sd-space by partitioning for a ROM that does not natively support a2sd
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He's prolly gonna need it eventually when he decides to try one of those unstable roms out there.
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stankyou said:
eventually
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Eventually. OP only wanted CM for now

Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated.
You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)

gab_hamelin said:
Hi! The easiest way to install a new ROM it's by ROM manager. You can use the recovery mode also, but it's more complicated
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Take your advice and go somewhere else. ROM Manager both sucks and blows and just causes problems. The only "good" use it does have is the ability to download ROM's straight to your phone. Otherwise steer clear.
gab_hamelin said:
You can flash your recovery whitout any problem.
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In most cases
gab_hamelin said:
ALWAYS remember to make a nandroid backup before installing a ROM in case anything goes wrong.
You should also wipe data, cache and dalvik.
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Should do a full wipe, including boot, system etc.
gab_hamelin said:
After installing a new ROM, use ROM managers or recovery to make à sd-ext partitions (more space for apps)
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Do not use ROM manager to make backups. Can just cause problems as already stated. Don't be lazy and do it yourself via recovery, now with 4EXT touch it's easier and simpler than ever.

Yes. Go and flash manually. Rom manager is just a middle man that screws up the process. Dont ever use it at least for Desire coz it really doesnt play well with it. Even after you successfully flashed cyanogenmod.
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Use this fine guide?
I used this very fine guide when I wanted to go further than HTC would let me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
And it is maintained on XDA, which is nice.

HTC G2 White Screen with Andromadus ROM 1.1.2

Hi All, let me start with a warning…
total Android n00b here, doing his first ROM flash on a newly rooted T-Mobile G2. I’ve read and searched a bit in the forum threads to see if I could solve this on my own, but I do need help.
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT - 0.82.0000 (PC1010000)
MICROP - 0425
RADIO - 26.02.01.15_M2
eMMC - boot
Aug 20 2010, 16:51:01
This is from using the instructions in Strawmetal’s PDF guide to Downgrading from Gingerbread to Froyo and Root. I am working with a G2 phone that was set to Factory Reset before rooting, so there is no user data to backup or worry about.
1. I downloaded the Andromadus Mimicry 1.1.2 ROM image, and verified the md5 checksum on my sdcard using the AFV Legacy application. The Gapps image also was verified as well.
2. Using ROM Manager 5.0.0.8 from the Google Market, I ran Clockwork Recovery to install the Andromadus image. I left all settings on defaults and the installer ran fine.
3. When it restarted, I was left stuck at the white HTC screen for ages… the longest I left it was 20 mins. After that, I pulled the battery and restarted. Same white HTC screen.
4. I tried using Volume (+) key and Power On to get back to Clockwork Recovery, but the phone vibrated (buzzed) 3x times quickly, and the Power LED lamp pulsed an amber color. Again, yank battery, restart, same white HTC screen.
5. finally I decided to read more of the help for adb, and found the command “adb reboot-bootloader”. This let me get into the default Recovery mode, and it proceeded to find the PC10IMG.zip I still had on the sdcard from doing the Froyo downgrade. Recovery checked it out, ran it and restored the stock Froyo image and my phone did a proper restart. WHEW.
After that, I had to run adb to install the hboot recovery image file, and the busybox checksums were valid according to Strawmetal’s PDF instructions to get permanent root back after restoring the stock Froyo image.
I have done this process about 4 times, and am really good at typing inside adb now
But I’m lost…
-did I pick a ROM that doesn’t work with the G2? Other posters to the forum thread appear to be using the HTC Vision or G2.
-is ROM Manager not a good way to install a ROM?
-when I tried to get back into Recovery, what do the 3x buzzes/amber power LED mean?
-I never got to install the Gapps image; was I supposed to install that first, then the ROM image?
I imagine I did something wrong (duh!), but I can’t spot it. If someone can help me through this, I’d appreciate some advice very much.
thanks!

Rather than clockwork, use 4EXT recovery, much better for our device. ROM manager and clockwork have grown very iffy over the past year. Don't use rom manager to install a rom, download the zip yourself and manually install it in recovery.
Next you need to find the "superwipe+ext4.zip" floating around here, it is indispensable for FULLY wiping your phone when switching roms.
Mimicry works fine on the G2, in fact everything (except a few sense roms that need a Desire Z hboot) in the development section runs fine on the G2.
So....get the ROM, GApps for that ROM, the Superwipe zip (you will flash this right before you begin flashing the rom) on your SD card and make sure you are using 4EXT recovery (find the link in the dev section).
Make sure before you do ANYTHING you make a Nandroid backup (using your recovery).

Your issue is actually addressed in the Mimicry OP, please read it first. That said, the problem is almost certainly because you're coming from GB without a full wipe. You can use 4ext to repartiton/wipe all, or you can use superwipe+ext4 as mentioned by Nospin.
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Hi Nospin,
Thank you very much for your suggestions!
I will revise my root and remove Clockwork, and switch to 4EXT instead.
I appreciate the idea of "superwipe"; I will look for that as well today.
If I understand everything right...
-replace CWM with 4EXT
-place superwipe.zip, Gapps.zip and the Mimicry ROM.zip on the top level of the sdcard first.
-reboot the phone and run 4EXT recovery
-select superwipe to run first, then the ROM and then Gapps
-then restart the phone
When I used CWM before to install the ROM, it rebooted on its own before I could install Gapps. Will 4EXT let me do each install right after each other or do I have to return to 4EXT for each separate install?
regards,
motionmonk
Nospin said:
Rather than clockwork, use 4EXT recovery, much better for our device. ROM manager and clockwork have grown very iffy over the past year. Don't use rom manager to install a rom, download the zip yourself and manually install it in recovery.
Next you need to find the "superwipe+ext4.zip" floating around here, it is indispensable for FULLY wiping your phone when switching roms.
Mimicry works fine on the G2, in fact everything (except a few sense roms that need a Desire Z hboot) in the development section runs fine on the G2.
So....get the ROM, GApps for that ROM, the Superwipe zip (you will flash this right before you begin flashing the rom) on your SD card and make sure you are using 4EXT recovery (find the link in the dev section).
Make sure before you do ANYTHING you make a Nandroid backup (using your recovery).
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Hi blk_jack,
I went back to the Mimicry page and re-read the FAQ section.
I think what I got out of it the first time was that if the ROM flash failed, it could be a corrupt ROM image. I will definitely use 4EXT to repartition before I try again with a ROM flash.
I guess I am still getting used to the terms for everything; can 4EXT do the nandroid backup? or is there a better process for setting that up?
thank you!
motionmonk
blk_jack said:
Your issue is actually addressed in the Mimicry OP, please read it first. That said, the problem is almost certainly because you're coming from GB without a full wipe. You can use 4ext to repartiton/wipe all, or you can use superwipe+ext4 as mentioned by Nospin.
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Yes, you should be able to flash the rom and then GApps without rebooting. Give me a few and I will send you a PM with a few links....

Shot you a PM.

Thanks! I'll check it out :good:
Nospin said:
Shot you a PM.
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Update-not working
Ok...
I re-flashed back to stock Froyo, and did a permanent root.
Installed 4ext Recovery (instead of Clockwork), and got a copy of SuperwipeG2+ext4;
I copied new checksum'd copies of Mimicry 1.1.2 ROM and GApps to my sdcard.
Booted into 4ext Recovery and installed from .zip the SuperwipeG2+ext4 file.
System, data and cache are all converted to ext4 partitions.
Wiped the system and data and cache partitions.
Installed from inside Recovery the Mimicry ROM and then the GApps archives.
No errors reported.
Upon reboot, I still get the white HTC screen. UGH.
I've left it on in that state for 30 mins... I had to yank the battery after that in shame...
I have tried to make sure that I read up on background steps, and I feel I do understand the overall process, but something is still getting in the way. I am doing this as I mentioned in an earlier post on a factory reset G2 with a clean erased SD card (has the stock Froyo image, Andromadus Mimicry ROM and GApps only). There is no SIM card installed either, wifi is off (to avoid OTA upgrade requests).
Are there other things I can try, or info I can supply that would help? I think I'm so close to getting this done... I must be overlooking something obvious.

I run that by rom along with Cm9 beta..... Try adding that to your boot process. Just Cm9 beta..... Other than version of crash.... That's just what I have experienced
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Hi amogil,
Just to be sure I understand, are you saying you are swapping between Andromadus and CM9 beta on your phone?
Did you flash CM9 first? and then Andromadus?
or just carrying the CM9 beta image and running Andromadus?
Sorry, I'm all sorts of confused here lol
thanks
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I run that by rom along with Cm9 beta..... Try adding that to your boot process. Just Cm9 beta..... Other than version of crash.... That's just what I have experienced
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Ugh....it's frustrating isn't it?
Can you boot into any other rom? For example if you downloaded CM7.2? If you don't have any problems we can eliminate some possibilities.....
I had a similar problem booting into Mimicry my first time, in that I could get past the white HTC screen but after that my screen would just go black. After a couple frustrating hours what ended up working for me was downloading the older version (1.1.1 I think?) and that booted up fine . Then after letting that boot I went back into recovery and flashed 1.1.2 without wiping (I might have wiped cache and dalvik...). Everything worked great after that. Not the same problem as you, but similar.....

It's definitely a thought, and I believe that's what amogil is telling me too...
Ya, I can try a different ROM and report back.
I guess I should go back to stock Froyo and then start from CM7.2, and if that boots, try Mimicry again?
-from the Andromadus FAQ, it says it if a different ROM is based on ICS9, you shouldn't have to wipe. But with CM7, I'd have to wipe the Dalvik cache, yes?
-since CM7 is obviously not based on ICS9, would being able to launch into that show some details I can't see at present? Just was curious.
Or, do you think it better to go stock Froyo and then the older Mimicry ROM?
Either way, I'll make sure that I use the Superwipe to set things to ext4 first.
thanks guys for the ideas,
motionmonk
Nospin said:
Ugh....it's frustrating isn't it?
Can you boot into any other rom? For example if you downloaded CM7.2? If you don't have any problems we can eliminate some possibilities.....
I had a similar problem booting into Mimicry my first time, in that I could get past the white HTC screen but after that my screen would just go black. After a couple frustrating hours what ended up working for me was downloading the older version (1.1.1 I think?) and that booted up fine . Then after letting that boot I went back into recovery and flashed 1.1.2 without wiping (I might have wiped cache and dalvik...). Everything worked great after that. Not the same problem as you, but similar.....
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The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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SUCCESS!
Woohoo!
It works!
Since I had an ICS9 ROM already in place and was planning to wipe back to stock anyways, I tried flashing the older Andromadus 1.1.0 ROM.
What a surprise and treat to see the startup animation!
After poking around for an hour inside it, I then tried Recovery to reflash to the newest 1.1.2 ROM.
YAY! It works!
OMG, having a new ROM is like having a new phone-- there are so many improvements to the UI and it's quick and speedy versus GB. Dang, I'm happy now :victory:
Observations:
1. I did notice that inside Recovery, my touchscreen was barely functional when I tried to update from 1.1.0 up to 1.1.2-- I had to use the Volume +/- and the d-pad button to make selections. After the flash, the touchscreen is as responsive as ever.
2. it's got me thinking, that there must be a setting that is expected in the v1.1.2 ROM that the v1.1.0 ROM installed. Or could something else be the issue? I mean absolutely no disrespect to the developers... but on the technical side, I'm just curious what possibilities exist that might lead to this situation.
3. backup question... when I use MyBackup Pro, I know I can make an archive of the apps I've installed, and an archive of the data (documents, music, settings). Is a nandroid backup different from that? when I see the backup/restore options inside of 4ext Recovery, what are those doing that's different from what I get from MyBackup Pro?
thanks for all the help and encouragement. I have a new ROM installed! :good:

strawmetal said:
The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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Oooh, a possibility. We will see if he can boot a different rom.
Whenever you switch roms (even if they are using the same Android version as a base) I suggest a full wipe. (Wipe all user data + Dalvik Cache + Cache, or just flash the superwipe zip). When upgrading the rom you are currently on (say upgrading CM Nightlies or going from Mimicry 1.1.1 to 1.1.2) you only need to really wipe cache and dalvik cache. Unless the dev states otherwise of course.

Hi strawmetal,
It turns out that I did have s-off after all...
1. after one of the many attempts to flash the ROM image and restoring back to stock Froyo, I said that "I'm gonna start this entire process over to be sure." So I get stuck using the fre3vo tool for about 30 minutes, rebooting and trying different address ranges to find the exploit.
Never found one... oh no, what did I do to the phone now??
-then it hit me; if it can't find an exploit... then it must already been used!
2. also, I did check each time I was in bootloader that my S-OFF was there and the radio and hboot were not changing versions.
3. Hehe, and the best indication was... being able to boot up finally!
I also have your Strawmetal.CM.V6.zip on my sdcard; if the downflash (?) to the Andromadus older ROM didn't work, yours was the CM7 image I wanted to try. If it's ok, I think I want to play around inside CM9 for a bit and then try yours out after that. I don't want to overwhelm my poor brain!
thank you for your suggestion... that definitely would be something to check as well.
strawmetal said:
The boot.img should be the issue for a rom to not boot from the. Htc whitescreen. My guess is that you have a false s-off.
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Thank You All!
A big shout out to:
Nospin
blk_jack
amogil
strawmetal
for taking the time out to help a total n00b stumble through his first ROM flash.
I really appreciate the points you guys made, and the help provided.
Thank you!
I hope that one day I can help someone else out with a problem and pass the kindness forward.
Yay! I have a working ROM!
motionmonk

motionmonk said:
Hi strawmetal,
It turns out that I did have s-off after all...
1. after one of the many attempts to flash the ROM image and restoring back to stock Froyo, I said that "I'm gonna start this entire process over to be sure." So I get stuck using the fre3vo tool for about 30 minutes, rebooting and trying different address ranges to find the exploit.
Never found one... oh no, what did I do to the phone now??
-then it hit me; if it can't find an exploit... then it must already been used!
2. also, I did check each time I was in bootloader that my S-OFF was there and the radio and hboot were not changing versions.
3. Hehe, and the best indication was... being able to boot up finally!
I also have your Strawmetal.CM.V6.zip on my sdcard; if the downflash (?) to the Andromadus older ROM didn't work, yours was the CM7 image I wanted to try. If it's ok, I think I want to play around inside CM9 for a bit and then try yours out after that. I don't want to overwhelm my poor brain!
thank you for your suggestion... that definitely would be something to check as well.
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The bootloader can show a false s-off. I've personally experienced this. By the time "HTCDev bootloader unlock" came out i was already rooted. But as curious as I was I decided to try it out. Flashed an RUU ( my my why would I do that ) Got back s-on( guess this was false too) then I used HTCDev method to prove i'm a total noob. Then i relocked it using Nipqer's guide and followed setherio's method again. I was able to use the stock froyo, but no other rom would boot( false s-off being the culprit ). This time I ran to #g2root on freenode. Nipqer saved me.

WOW. i just realized there is SO MUCH I need to catch up on!
I'll have to look up some of these guides later today... but the RUU is the ROM upgrade, right?
Did you ever find a reason why you got the false S-OFF flag? It's clear that the way I was looking at the failed fre3vo exploit as proof of S-OFF isn't always going to be true... but how would you separate a false S-OFF flag from lets say a wrong hboot image?
BTW, your PDF on downgrading and rooting the G2 was a godsend. Very very helpful and clear.
One of the reasons why I took so long to try rooting was that I was confused by the different methods and the replies of X not working, Y is a better way... going through your guide and the info here on xda cleared alot of things up. :good:
strawmetal said:
The bootloader can show a false s-off. I've personally experienced this. By the time "HTCDev bootloader unlock" came out i was already rooted. But as curious as I was I decided to try it out. Flashed an RUU ( my my why would I do that ) Got back s-on( guess this was false too) then I used HTCDev method to prove i'm a total noob. Then i relocked it using Nipqer's guide and followed setherio's method again. I was able to use the stock froyo, but no other rom would boot( false s-off being the culprit ). This time I ran to #g2root on freenode. Nipqer saved me.
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[Q] Stuck in the process of getting more space for app's

Hello XDA members
This is my first post. I've read all the rules and mantra's and watched the video. I hope someone can help me. I've read a lot of threads prior to posting, but i'm stuck. The thing is, i'm not quite sure where i am in the process of rooting my Desire and freeing up space. This is because it's a couple of month's since i began the process, and i stopped because i got stuck back then. I should have posted right away, having everything i've done fresh in memory, but i didn't. I now understand that i tried to do a lot of technical stuff before actually knowing what i was doing. Noob!
End goal: more memory
My Desire runs Gingerbread 2.3.3
This is the guide i was using: techspalace.blogspot.dk/2011/10/perm-root-htc-desire-gingerbread-233.html
My thinking was, that i needed to root to be able to run apps that i can use to install app's to SD card.
I don't think i've rooted the Desire yet.
Well today i followed the guide in the link, and i tried to get into recovery mode, but i couldn't.
When i start in boot mode, it says:
-Revolutionary
BRAAVO PVT4, SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051D
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
AUG. 10 2010, 17:52:18
What to do...?
Thanks

prse said:
Hello XDA members
This is my first post. I've read all the rules and mantra's and watched the video. I hope someone can help me. I've read a lot of threads prior to posting, but i'm stuck. The thing is, i'm not quite sure where i am in the process of rooting my Desire and freeing up space. This is because it's a couple of month's since i began the process, and i stopped because i got stuck back then. I should have posted right away, having everything i've done fresh in memory, but i didn't. I now understand that i tried to do a lot of technical stuff before actually knowing what i was doing. Noob!
End goal: more memory
My Desire runs Gingerbread 2.3.3
This is the guide i was using: techspalace.blogspot.dk/2011/10/perm-root-htc-desire-gingerbread-233.html
My thinking was, that i needed to root to be able to run apps that i can use to install app's to SD card.
I don't think i've rooted the Desire yet.
Well today i followed the guide in the link, and i tried to get into recovery mode, but i couldn't.
When i start in boot mode, it says:
-Revolutionary
BRAAVO PVT4, SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051D
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
AUG. 10 2010, 17:52:18
What to do...?
Thanks
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So ur s off but not rooted do you have superuser app
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sywats said:
So ur s off but not rooted do you have superuser app
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nope, should i install it?

prse said:
nope, should i install it?
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Yes, you should. Flash this file from recovery:
http://download.chainfire.eu/315/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.25.zip
After that, follow the partitioning guide in my sig.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Yes, you should. Flash this file from recovery...
After that, follow the partitioning guide in my sig.
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well, i can't get into recovery mode, so how can i flash?

prse said:
well, i can't get into recovery mode, so how can i flash?
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Then flash a recovery first. The partitioning guide also has a recovery flashing tutorial. Use either the fastboot method, or the pb99img method.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Then flash a recovery first. The partitioning guide also has a recovery flashing tutorial. Use either the fastboot method, or the pb99img method.
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Thank you, i'll try that
/Peter

so far so good
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Then flash a recovery first. The partitioning guide also has a recovery flashing tutorial. Use either the fastboot method, or the pb99img method.
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Ok, I've partitioned the SD card. (BTW, good guide you've made)
- should i continue and install Mounts2sd or CronMod? - but I need to be rooted to do this right?

prse said:
Ok, I've partitioned the SD card. (BTW, good guide you've made)
- should i continue and install Mounts2sd or CronMod? - but I need to be rooted to do this right?
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Thanks.
Now i recommend you to flash the supersu zip i linked earlier, backing up all your apps with titanium backup, and installing a custom rom. A custom rom, besides probably having an integrated a2sd script, is a lot faster than the stock rom, and it doesn't have bloatware.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Thanks.
Now i recommend you to flash the supersu zip i linked earlier, backing up all your apps with titanium backup, and installing a custom rom. A custom rom, besides probably having an integrated a2sd script, is a lot faster than the stock rom, and it doesn't have bloatware.
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Ok, ive flashed supersu, i don't think i need to backup any app because i ran a fresh recovery before starting this thread - or do i? Installing a custom rom you say...does this mean it's rooted now because of supersu?
can you recommend a custom rom?

You backup your personal apps, like.. i don't know... a game with a highscore. If you don't have any, then you don't need to backup. Maybe only contacts, and sms. Check the play store apps that do that.
I recommend starting with MildWild Redux, the one i'm using now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031467
It's fast and stable, and easy to handle, plus you get low battery consumption.
If you want a sense rom, try RSK. It's fast and stable as well, and you can tweak it from the RSK settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431908
Steps to flash:
1. Download the rom zip, and place it on your sd-card.
2. Backup your apps and contacts (optional)
3. Boot in recovery.
4. Select the "backup" option. This is a nandoid backup. If anything goes wrong with the rom you're trying to flash, this will restore your previous rom entirely.
5. In the wipe menu, select "wipe all partitions except sd-card".
6. Install the rom.
7. Wait for it to boot (first boot up to 15 min).
8. Enjoy.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
You backup your personal apps, like.. i don't know... a game with a highscore. If you don't have any, then you don't need to backup. Maybe only contacts, and sms. Check the play store apps that do that.
I recommend starting with MildWild Redux, the one i'm using now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031467
It's fast and stable, and easy to handle, plus you get low battery consumption.
If you want a sense rom, try RSK. It's fast and stable as well, and you can tweak it from the RSK settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431908
Steps to flash:
1. Download the rom zip, and place it on your sd-card.
2. Backup your apps and contacts (optional)
3. Boot in recovery.
4. Select the "backup" option. This is a nandoid backup. If anything goes wrong with the rom you're trying to flash, this will restore your previous rom entirely.
5. In the wipe menu, select "wipe all partitions except sd-card".
6. Install the rom.
7. Wait for it to boot (first boot up to 15 min).
8. Enjoy.
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Thanks a bunch! I need to go to dinner at a friends now..dammit...can't wait to get back and do this
/Peter

prse said:
Ok, ive flashed supersu, i don't think i need to backup any app because i ran a fresh recovery before starting this thread - or do i? Installing a custom rom you say...does this mean it's rooted now because of supersu?
can you recommend a custom rom?
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Yes, you are now rooted, as you have supersu :good: Now you can mess through your system files :silly: Or, you can follow abaaaabbbb63 reccommendations and try some custom ROMs.

Mildwild cm 8 is also good
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DONE!
I Now have i Mildwild installed.Thank you, you have been very patient and helpful.
Everything is running great.
I have installed a ton of app's - mission accomplished.
Take care
Peter