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Hey everyone... this phone has gotten excellent reviews, and I was psyched to replace my tired Diamond with it until I saw all the problems people have been having with it (LOS, battery drain, gaming, etc.), especially considering it's Samsung. Thinking of getting a photon or 3vo instead, or just waiting it out for something better (yeah, i know it's always around the corner). But of course the people who have issues are more likely to post than those who don't. So how many of you actually haven't had major problems? Is this thing worth the risk? And does anyone know if TEP would cover this if the problems laid low until after the 14 day trial period?
No issues here. I came from the 3vo and photon, do yourself a favor and get the epic.
I have had it since launch day, no problems, in fact this phone is the only one that I have had that I haven't insta rooted... because it's just bad ass, I'm in no rush
I had no problems for 6 days till I rooted, then I had LOS 4 times the first day. Went back to stock kernel and now 2 days in no problems.
blahzace said:
No issues here. I came from the 3vo and photon, do yourself a favor and get the epic.
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+1 same here. Well said. Treat yourself to the best mobile experience available
sent from my DAMN phone!
No problems yet either. haven't rooted yet but thinking about it...
No problem here...loving it..
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I have LOS issue at least once a day, but mine can be fixed by going into airplane mode and coming out of it. Don't believe all the hype, this phone DOES have issues, but it's still a great phone.
Also, I would mention check out sprint's forums and android central to get a good overall view of the connection issues on this phone. It seems Samsung has once again released a phone with buggy modem software. It will get ironed out, its just a matter of when, be it 1 month from now or 6 months from now.
Just as a personal example, I get 300-400kbps less on 3g than my girlfriend gets on her evo 4g in the same exact spot, using speedtest.net app at the same exact time. I have repeated this test multiple times at various spots in my city just to confirm.
I hate to be a naysayer, I love the phone and don't intend on returning it. But keep that in mind, you will be getting a phone that is less than perfect on day one. Once we get an actual update and ruu from Samsung, then the real Roms and Kernels will start rolling out. For now, we are just playing a waiting game it seems.
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I had no problems for 6 days till I rooted, then I had LOS 4 times the first day. Went back to stock kernel and now 2 days in no problems.
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My experience as well.... may just be coincidence, but no problems while unrooted.
I love it when people post " I was fine until I rooted and then all these problems, what's wrong with the phone." Well duh have you ever thought it was your rooting.
Have had it since day one. No real problems to speak of. Some people are just way too picky. Talk with a non-geek about the phone and there is nothing wrong, talk with a geek and there are all sorts of nit pick. Honestly some of these people are so anal it makes me wonder. The Epic 4G Touch is a great phone with a lot going for it. Had a Photon and that phone had a lot of issues that prevented it from fulfilling it's most basic purpose, to send and receive phone calls. *ugh*
Ive had this phone since day one, haven't had a single issue with it. No LOS, no gaming bugs, no force closes, nothing. Battery life is nothing short of stellar, and overall performace is pretty much without parallel in the mobile world. This is easily the best phone in the us market right now and you'll be extremely happy with it should you decide to get it. I had an EVO 3D for a month and absolutely HATED it. Get the ET4G, you won't be sorry.
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I have had the phone for 8 days now, I am impressed with the battery life, I leave it on wifi all day long at work and the phone roams with 1 bar of signal. This building is terrible as far as cell service goes. Even so, I leave work and my battery is ~ 40-50%. I usually unplug it around 4:00am and leave work at 5:30pm. I did get the no smoking circle yesterday but I was in the basement of our library, I'm pretty sure that wsa legit and my signal came back when I walked outside. This phone is running phenominal for me, it is by far the best phone I have ever owned or played with.
I went from: POS Crackberry (Curve 8320), MyTouch 3g, Samsung Moment, Evo Shift, E4GT
have the phone since day one, no problems at all. first smartphone that has no issues for me. and its fast.
Same for me. Unrooted zero issues great battery life super fast.
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No issues here since purchase on launch day. Not one single LOS, good signal strength in the areas I frequent here in San Diego, respectable 3G data speeds by Sprint standards, excellent battery life, no unexpected heat, nothing.
14 days is tomorrow, so I'm expecting the thing to completely friggin explode on Saturday. I've never had a smartphone run this well out of the box. I'm a bit floored to be honest.
Get it. I'm coming from Evo3D (Evo and NS4G before that). It it well worth it. I haven't had an issue with it at all. It is the only phone I have had that I have not felt the need to root....yet.
No issues here save for a WiFi connection that dies every now and then, but I think it's an issue with my router.
Otherwise it's by far the best phone I've ever used. It just works.
Still stock, haven't found an overwhelming reason to root.
I have to agree with everyone, i have had like 20 different phones this year and all have been rooted the day i got them except this one, its just so damn fast, but i expect that will change omce cm7 is out for it
I've yet to encounter a single problem with this phone. First time I haven't been rooted within days of buying one too. It really amazes me that I'm satisfied with a smart phone right out of the box.
This phone has worked perfectly out of the box. So well that there's almost no point in rooting or modding it. Battery, GPS, connectivity, everything...
In fact, I didn't have any issues until I rooted it and installed a modded ROM. After that random LOS after resuming from sleep. Guess what? Returning to stock eliminated that problem. So the issues people are facing are from messing around and modding things not from the hardware or the stock software.
Anyway, now I'm on the stock kernel with root access without issues and I'll probably stay this way for a while until a nice stable rom comes along
Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing the problems.. what are ypur thoughts
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Lol, no.
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I feel the same way... I'm getting serious battery loss after flashing a few of these roms.. with stock Rom I was getting a good 20 hours moderate use.. now with custom roms I'm getting like 10 hourz... I'm In noway knocking on any devs.. I do appreciate everyones contribution... I think it's a lil still early in the galaxy development
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Mine ran great fresh out the box for sure, but thats also because it was fresh and had no apps installed etc lol.
Some roms seem to work better than others. Running Starbust 1.2 with zedo's 4.1 kernel and it's running absolutely great now, better than unrooted IMO.
Could be grass in greener on the other side syndrome, try unrooting and see if you still feel that it runs better stock. With ODIN it's pretty quick and easy to jump back from rooted to not and back again.
I will always be rooted because I love trying out new things and custom roms and overclocking/undervolting etc.. it's fun, like a hobby for sure. And sometimes that hobby especially with beta stuff isnt that stable lol!
Just having adfree and wifi tethering is more than enough reason for me to root. But when the really cool custom roms start coming out, it's gunna be on like donkey kong
I did run a rooted rom with the stock kernel, and I have to say I like zedo's better.
My 2 cents
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Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing t runninghe problems.. what are ypur thoughts
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Source?
My stock-rooted E4GT is working just fine. No LoS, no random reboots, no freezing up, no locking up... no bloat, great battery life, no BS.
I had a ton of issues with LOS and some random reboots on Zedomax's root kernel. Flashed to the stock + CMR and havent had an issue since.
I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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nabbed said:
I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
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I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
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I'm stock with root, and it runs smoother than when I was on oc kernel
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I agree that LOS is not caused by rooted kernal. But, I did experience LOS alot more often than stock kernal. When I got the phone I stayed unrooted for a little over a week. I experienced 2 LOS during that time period. Once I finally rooted I was experiencing LOS @ least 3 times a day. LOS also drains the battery like crazy. One night I left the phone off the charger with 100% battery life. When I woke up, the phone was in LOS and only had 40% battery life. Well, today last night I finally switched to stock kernal. So far today no LOS.
I digress. Stock rom works perfect but I needed so mods that require root. The battery percent mod, wireless tether, and roam control. I think I'll wait for an AOSP rom before I try anything different roms.
I've tried all the currently available kernals for ths phone. I've rooted and unrooted. Right now, i'm on stock rooted. I'm still experiencing LOS, but it seems less frequent than when I was on custom kernals. It could be other criteria, though. I haven't tried any of the ROMs, only because I want a stock ROM to flash, if something goes wrong. I don't remember the epic taking this long to get the stock ROM available to us. My memory may be slipping, though.
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jok3sta said:
Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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Stop whining!
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Stop whining!
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Not really sure where you see whining. But I do see a clown who has nothing better to do that reply to my "whining". thanks for the post bump though. Now back on topic.. lets keep this sucka free please
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this is why I will wait another week or 2 before rooting....this phone is awe sum as stock, but, like any newly released phone, it takes a few weeks before all the truly revolutionary stuff gets developed.
Most devs have a real job, a family, and a real life, so you can't really expect flashing "nirvana" only a week or so after a phone comes out.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
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Same mentality here my man. It's either rooted... Overclocked.... Or supercharged. I like things over the top lol. Heck even my gas powered scooters and rc cars are souped up. Sorry.... Back on target.
Samsung Galaxy S II
I'm stock since day 1, when the phone first released, and I get LOS once a day. It's killing me not to have root, but I am not modding unless there is a factory RUU available straight from Samsung. Personally, and to no discredit to the developers, I don't trust the stock rom pulled from another phone. This phone is just a bit too new for me to be permanently altering it without a 100% safe way back. The OG Epic was made almost unbrickable, so it's reasonable to assume that a year from now, we will be rolling like pigs in **** with cool stuff to flash.
But I get what you are saying, and honestly, the community did not explode like I thought it would. Seems to be more HTC fans these days then Samsung, and just judging from Samsung's post launch support, or lack thereof, I can understand why...
Furthermore, my 3G speeds were horrible day 1 and continue to suck balls. Most times at work I can't even browse the market because of timeouts. 4G seems to work good though, and that's the only reason I haven't just returned this phone yet.
Check this thread:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/76962?start=0&tstart=0
This is sprint's official forum, and they are just now admitting to the crappy radio implementation on this phone. Should have seen this coming a mile away, but honestly I was just too busy looking at this gorgeous 4.52" AMOLED+ screen to notice...
This is the first phone I've had were I don't feel the need to root, and I wouldn't have rooted until it had been perfected more.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!
my main reason for rooting was a few apps i had that needed root. as well as the battery percentage
Well, I broke down and got the Epic Touch. This is my 3rd android, and so far, it's been 3/3 Sammy. Funny thing is, when owning the Moment, I swore I'd never get another Sammy. Ha! I moved on to the Epic 4G, and was actually pretty happy with that phone, except for battery life. Well, the new shiny came out (I call it my precious...) and I had an opportunity to get it, and here I sit. Man this is a nice phone! Love the battery life, but kind of miss the narrower, chunkier 4G. (I know... that's counter to everyone else... But I liked the ability to rest the phone on my shoulder while talking if I had by 3500mA battery in there)
Anyway, howdy all! Just figured I'd make my greetings here. I'm an old hand at Android phones (Lord knows I installed enough ROMS on that damned Moment) and using the wonderful mods from the devs here, and look forward to a long run of great add ons in the months and maybe even years to come!
I know the feeling. I was never a fan of Samsung phones but I now own the Epic 4g touch, and a Galaxy tab 10.1. I was strictly a HTC fan but Samsung has made me a believer...
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Even with the crappy updates im rolling with Sammy.
The Moment actually turned into a great phone once the guys over at SDX got 2.2.2 running on it. No more data lock! I'm convinced it was a kernel issue.
I'm hoping that the devs can come to the rescue again, because the ET has the same issue, only we're calling it LOS instead of data lock!
Samsung has a crappy record for updating their phones, and Sprint's updates always address things that either were never a problem, or don't actually fix the problem they claim to be fixing.
Its all about 3rd party developers, and having to void our warranties to get a working phone!
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The Moment actually turned into a great phone once the guys over at SDX got 2.2.2 running on it. No more data lock! I'm convinced it was a kernel issue.
I'm hoping that the devs can come to the rescue again, because the ET has the same issue, only we're calling it LOS instead of data lock!
Samsung has a crappy record for updating their phones, and Sprint's updates always address things that either were never a problem, or don't actually fix the problem they claim to be fixing.
Its all about 3rd party developers, and having to void our warranties to get a working phone!
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It's not the same issue. Every moment I've ever touched had the airplane mode issue. I went through over 10 at least. My first Epic Touch had the LOS issue and after getting that replaced I haven't seen it since. I go into areas of low coverage, no coverage, rooming, wifi on and off and no LOS. My moment would have done this 50 times at least under the same conditions.
oboroninja said:
I know the feeling. I was never a fan of Samsung phones but I now own the Epic 4g touch, and a Galaxy tab 10.1. I was strictly a HTC fan but Samsung has made me a believer...
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Ditto here man. I avoided any Sammy like the plague and always liked HTC, but Sense was just getting old to me. I am loving this thing and I am not real sure that I care too much about Sammy's really wretched update history. I'll be rooting once ICS gets a stable release.
I have only had LOS once and it was at a football tailgate on over taxed towers in a really weak signal area....so I can't say is my phone or its everywhere.
Same boat. The Moment told me I'd be going somewhere else next, and then the Epic 4G hit and I was back with Samsung. But I had enough issues with it that I was convinced I'd go HTC or Motorola next. And here I am, back with Samsung, and so far glad I stuck around.
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It's not the same issue. Every moment I've ever touched had the airplane mode issue. I went through over 10 at least. My first Epic Touch had the LOS issue and after getting that replaced I haven't seen it since. I go into areas of low coverage, no coverage, rooming, wifi on and off and no LOS. My moment would have done this 50 times at least under the same conditions.
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Did you ever flash Froyo onto your Moment?
I seriously hadn't had a lockup from February until I activated my ET on 9/22... And that included traveling from Milwaukee to the middle of the woods up north, going from roam to network to roam SEVERAL times along the way.
The reason why I think its the same issue is because, like the Moment, when you get the lockup on the ET, you can then manually go INTO airplane mode, but it refuses to let you come back out again (the option is grayed out). That's exactly the way it manifested on the Moment.
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Well, I broke down and got the Epic Touch. This is my 3rd android, and so far, it's been 3/3 Sammy. Funny thing is, when owning the Moment, I swore I'd never get another Sammy. Ha! I moved on to the Epic 4G, and was actually pretty happy with that phone, except for battery life. Well, the new shiny came out (I call it my precious...) and I had an opportunity to get it, and here I sit. Man this is a nice phone! Love the battery life, but kind of miss the narrower, chunkier 4G. (I know... that's counter to everyone else... But I liked the ability to rest the phone on my shoulder while talking if I had by 3500mA battery in there)
Anyway, howdy all! Just figured I'd make my greetings here. I'm an old hand at Android phones (Lord knows I installed enough ROMS on that damned Moment) and using the wonderful mods from the devs here, and look forward to a long run of great add ons in the months and maybe even years to come!
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Same thing here, same three phones. I don't know how they keep suckering me in.
I am having doubts about this phone already though. Hopefully they will be fixed in an update. I fear the update will be too far down the road though.
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Did you ever flash Froyo onto your Moment?
I seriously hadn't had a lockup from February until I activated my ET on 9/22... And that included traveling from Milwaukee to the middle of the woods up north, going from roam to network to roam SEVERAL times along the way.
The reason why I think its the same issue is because, like the Moment, when you get the lockup on the ET, you can then manually go INTO airplane mode, but it refuses to let you come back out again (the option is grayed out). That's exactly the way it manifested on the Moment.
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I gave up the moment when the Epic was released. Back then we didn't have 2.2 for the moment. So by the time I was no longer using the device.
I understand your comparison. I only disagreed because of the nature of the error. I could force the moment into airplane mode any time that I wanted. So when I got my og epic I did everything I could do to get into airplane and succeeded a few times sadly enough, though it was much harder. When I got the epic touch my first one had the LOS. My second one refused to do it. I'm not saying it isn't possible. I just couldn't force the error like I could with the moment and with the og epic.
I'm not saying my phone doesn't have the LOS bug. I just haven't seen it. My first one did. I did the same things. I did the same things and went around the same areas and haven't seen this bug on my new device yet.
I lost my point. I just wanted to say that the LOS bug is no where near as common and at least it gives you a error that you can see when you have it. The moment will just look at you and smile and you'll go through your day wondering why nobody was calling you...
I'm right there with ya OP, my 1st Android device was the Moment, then I had the Epic 4G, then I got a Galaxy Tab 10.1, and now I have a Epic 4G Touch. I actually like Samsung for the most part, definitely not a perfect company, but I've never experienced a perfect company ever.
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I gave up the moment when the Epic was released. Back then we didn't have 2.2 for the moment. So by the time I was no longer using the device.
I understand your comparison. I only disagreed because of the nature of the error. I could force the moment into airplane mode any time that I wanted. So when I got my og epic I did everything I could do to get into airplane and succeeded a few times sadly enough, though it was much harder. When I got the epic touch my first one had the LOS. My second one refused to do it. I'm not saying it isn't possible. I just couldn't force the error like I could with the moment and with the og epic.
I'm not saying my phone doesn't have the LOS bug. I just haven't seen it. My first one did. I did the same things. I did the same things and went around the same areas and haven't seen this bug on my new device yet.
I lost my point. I just wanted to say that the LOS bug is no where near as common and at least it gives you a error that you can see when you have it. The moment will just look at you and smile and you'll go through your day wondering why nobody was calling you...
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Unfortunately, I got my moment about 1 month before they discontinued it, so I was stuck with it longer than a lot of folks.
I've been fortunate, and only encountered the problem twice so far with the ET. I'll be traveling up north this weekend, and we'll see how it goes. If I'm unable to get data (where I always could with the lowly Moment), there will be some words exchanged with Sprint.
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I know the feeling. I was never a fan of Samsung phones but I now own the Epic 4g touch, and a Galaxy tab 10.1. I was strictly a HTC fan but Samsung has made me a believer...
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The same exact thing happened to me!
Also, I was talking to a Samsung rep, and he said there are some "really cool things" coming that you will be able to do between your Samsung phone and your tablet.
I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
try it, you can always return it. i've never once got LOS. 3g sucks but that's sprint's network, not the phone. my battery life is really good. the phone takes forever to charge but i don't have any weird draining issues like some people.
sometimes i think xda has a tendancy to blow things out of proportion. i'd say give it a try, if it sucks you can exchange it and swap it out or go back to your evo.
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I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
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No one can tell you what phone to get.
Here's some comments on your concerns:
1) The LoStkernel from chris41g almost completely eliminates LOS.
2) Slow 3g speeds are coming to an end with Sprint Network Vision
3) Battery life seems to be phone dependent. Some get great life, I for one get crappy life. As AOSP ROMs come out I have a feeling the battery issues will be resolved.
4) With AOSP, ICS will for sure come to this device. No question. No debate.
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I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
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LOS = n/a: When I use a stock kernel; I had two instances when I didn't. Which is why I use stock now.
Slow 3G speeds = they are all about the same - 1.1-1.6Mbps. Was about the same on Evo 3D recently.
Battery = best battery ever. Twice battery of Evo 3D and Evo4G.
OP its a tiny % that have all these issues. Odds say you will ne fine my brother. Its a good phone.
I brought up the 3G speeds not because of Sprints network, but because some people said there were issues where they would get CRAPPY speeds on this device, and test on say an EVO, and get amazing speeds. Reminded me of when the Nexus S 4G came out, and had reception issues (particularly with 4G), so thats where my concern was. I figured im just going to go ahead and pick it up!
Woot! Lol
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the only thing i HATE about this phone is the battery life. But like others have said, I'm just one of the few. The battery just drains like crazy, losing 12%/hr over night. It's insane. I'll be rooting it in a few days but that' hasn't been a verified fix. And i'm too cheap to get a replacement (refurb) from Sprint for $35 lol.
just remember, people with the problems are going to be the most prominent and loudest.
how often will someone make a post like " my phone is great, absolutely nothing to complain about!"?
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just remember, people with the problems are going to be the most prominent and loudest.
how often will someone make a post like " my phone is great, absolutely nothing to complain about!"?
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+1 I couldn't agree more
All i have to say "get this beast"!!
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this phone is the best android phone out right now. if you can wait a month im sure we will hear about something better coming around the corner. i would recommend this phone, it isnt perfect but its still great.
Best phone out if u can't wait for the galaxy nexus.i love mines
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I'd say if you had Sprint, this is argubaly th best phone you can get. Those problems aren't a big deal and you won't find another phone without problems. These problems you say are really things that will be fixed in prob 3 months?
So best buy would be the best bet? Even if the upgrade is on a total different account? I just dont want to lose the discount on the phone!
Mines worked great until I rooted it. I went from never having LoS to random LoS
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Both of mine LOS'd from the get go. In fact the First one LOS'd on the way home from the Sprint store. It's a really fast, really pretty phone....If Sam/Sprint give it a little love it would be the best phone they have. Until then, I wouldn't recommend this phone.
Rooted phone does not cause the LOS!! Rooted phone just makes u to access more stuffs with ur phone than unrooted phone.
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skykc0401 said:
Rooted phone does not cause the LOS!! Rooted phone just makes u to access more stuffs with ur phone than unrooted phone.
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And honestly if Rooting your phone did cause LOS's that would be just another reason not to buy it.
I got 3 of epic touchs none of them los but i know one thing for sure is not the rooting. I like this phone alot
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I have been a EVO users for (2) years making the change to SGIII. I hope I am making the right decision. Couple of questions:
S-off obtainable?
Bootloader Y/N?
Battery Life?
Good Stable Rom?
Tell me what you guys think.
We don't need some soff because Samsung usually isn't a ****
Everything else hell yeah
Some things even hit this phone first
Hell I'm testing something for a guy that will be one of a kind once he shows it off
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The bootloader on the SGIII is not locked (so the equivalent of S-OFF on the HTC bootloaders does not apply). You simply use the Samsung Odin tool to flash a custom recovery so that you can then root or install a custom ROM. It is very easy to do.
The battery life has been good in the two weeks that I have had the phone but of course it depends on phone usage. I can burn the battery down if I am using the phone constantly but with my normal usage it lasts considerably longer than my Evo did.
When I look around I do find some other ROMs around but I have not made that leap yet. I am just running rooted stock. There is enough of an adjustment for me coming from Gingerbread Sense to Samsung ICS. I have not felt the need to do anything other than simple mods at this time.
I came to the SGIII after being on the Evo 4G for two years... I was torn between the Evo LTE and the Galaxy SIII. The things that drove me to the SIII were: replaceable battery, 2GB RAM, USB OTG...
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The bootloader on the SGIII is not locked (so the equivalent of S-OFF on the HTC bootloaders does not apply). You simply use the Samsung Odin tool to flash a custom recovery so that you can then root or install a custom ROM. It is very easy to do.
The battery life has been good in the two weeks that I have had the phone but of course it depends on phone usage. I can burn the battery down if I am using the phone constantly but with my normal usage it lasts considerably longer than my Evo did.
When I look around I do find some other ROMs around but I have not made that leap yet. I am just running rooted stock. There is enough of an adjustment for me coming from Gingerbread Sense to Samsung ICS. I have not felt the need to do anything other than simple mods at this time.
I came to the SGIII after being on the Evo 4G for two years... I was torn between the Evo LTE and the Galaxy SIII. The things that drove me to the SIII were: replaceable battery, 2GB RAM, USB OTG...
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Thanks for the update. I came for OG EVO to EVO LTE which I currently have but many problems have pushed me away. I did an (OTA) and brick my first EVO LTE. One thing that drives me nuts when i am in a call screen goes black. Non removable battery not a big fan either.
I will see tomorrow when I get my SGIII!!
S-off obtainable?
Samsung doesn't have S-On and S-Off but instead Locked and Unlocked. Unlike HTC's ****ty unlock, the samsung unlock fully unlocks your phone.
Bootloader Y/N?
There's a bootloader, but the place where you flash stuff like radio, recovery, etc. is in something called Download Mode. You can use an official samsung tool called ODIN to flash the stuff really easily.
Also every computer has a bootloader. A bootloader is what checks if all your hardware is working and initializes it when you start the device.
Battery Life?
Excellent. I can get 5 hours of screen on time. Similar to the Evo LTE.
Good Stable Rom?
All of the touchwiz ROMs are stable and good. They are all pretty similar so I'd recommend Blazer or FreeGS3.
If you want AOSP, Cyanogenmod nightlies are the best in terms of stability but AOKP and Paranoidandroid are still pretty stable. Keep in mind that none of the AOSP ROMs are stable, but are good enough for a daily driver. If you need stability, use touchwiz.
Wont regret it, my wife has an Evo LTE which i rooted (what a pain in the ass to get s-off) and the Gs3 feels way superior. Dev support for evo lte is not even close to the GS3. My previous phone was an EVO 3d and after having this phone no way im going back to HTC.
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That is exactly want I was hoping to hear. I am unrooting LTE as we speak and taking it back later today.
Thanks
Welcome to lag free world.
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That is exactly want I was hoping to hear. I am unrooting LTE as we speak and taking it back later today.
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I think you'll be a happy camper. Just make sure you don't root it the second you get it out of the box. Make sure you provision everything first and make sure your 3G connection is working. I jumped too quick and didn't have any data and had to call Sprint.
Check the Dev sub forum and you'll find videos by qbking that will guide you step-by-step on how to root your phone. It's a simple process if you have any knowledge in the subject at all.
Yep... I think if HTC wants to survive, they need to take a few lessons from Samsung. They need to give up on the control thing. They are gaining nothing by doing that.
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Yep... I think if HTC wants to survive, they need to take a few lessons from Samsung. They need to give up on the control thing. They are gaining nothing by doing that.
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I never thought I'd ever hear anyone say this! Back when I was suffering through my T-Mobile Vibrant (Samsung Galaxy S) days, I was firmly in the #neveragain camp. I couldn't wait to jump to HTC. Then sometime around a year or so ago, things started changing. First, I guess because of the success of the galaxy line in general, a lot of devs started working on the Samsung phones. The Vibrant still suffered, because it had horrendous GPS (still does to some extent) locks and Samsung wouldn't release either the source code or updates. But the open source community worked wonders. I think the Vibrant was possibly amongst the first phones with an ICS ROM - working ICS ROM. I have been using ICS since December on my Vibrant. It got the JB ROM almost 2 months ago - a stable daily driver JB ROM.
Even so, this was all the open source community with Samsung doing Jack. When I saw the specs for the HTC One X, I was sure I was switching to HTC. Then Samsung hired Steve Kondik and I'm sure he's had something to do with this, but Samsung suddenly started releasing source codes left right and center. As others have said, they never locked the boot loader in the first place and now with the same device on millions of phones (with very minor changes), they have the best of both worlds. But I was still determined to get the One X - especially when Sprint added a SD Card, a kickstand and a dedicated camera button. The display is phenomenal (the one place it totally kicks the S3's butt), but the non removable battery was giving me some pause. I spent some time in the HTC EVO LTE forums and started seeing the multi tasking problems and decided that with the 2GB RAM and the removable battery and the developer community, I was better off with the S3. On top of that, I think HTC went in the other direction. From a nudge-nudge-wink-wink co-inhabitation with the open source community, they went with locked boot loaders, slower releases of the source code.
I finally pulled the plug and decided to go with the S3 - although I must say, I did debate for 5 minutes whether I should wait for the Note 2.
I don't anticipate running any custom ROMS yet on the S3 that I'll be getting next week. But I'll definitely be rooting it and installing Nova launcher. If Samsung hasn't released JB by next month, I'll probably be using CM10. It's already very stable on my Vibrant. It's sure to be stable on the S3 in a month's time.
I wish HTC well and hope they come out with a good phone the next time I'm in the market for a phone.
Made the switch myself today after my 4th defective evolution lte..
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I had the evo lte for 3 days and could not get a 4g lte signal in my house. I never loose lte in my house with the s3
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When I was due for an upgrade, well a line was eligible on my account, I was looking at going with the HTC LTE and decided that I wanted to be able to pull my battery so I didn't give it another thought. I upgraded from the S II to the S III, it was a good move. I had the phone for about 4 hours before I decided to root it and about a day and a half before I decided to put a custom ROM on it
I chose Team Sonic-FreeGS3 mainly because it has the same look and feel as the original stock with added tweaks.
I unplug my phone at around 7 am each morning and use my phone for email and text mainly while at work with some phone calls peppered in, when I get home usually around 530pm, I will have 75% battery life left. I'm very impressed with this ROM and it continues to get better and better. It's very stable and I haven't run into any issues with this ROM
You should check Motorola's policy. No single way to unlock bootloader :crying:
Next phone...definitely Samsung, maybe from Nexus line
Hey Derek, I came from the originals evo also. This has some keyboard lag at random times, and very minor issues, but hardly noticeable. Better than the new evo, compared to the old evo, this is heaven. Look at this, just from texting all day, kik, facebook, xda, and some web browsing and YouTube a little. But one thing I must warn you about, when you get it, at first battery life will seem to suck but it doesn't. You just happen to be going crazy with it not putting it down XD and downloading stuff and personalizing and all that. Screen on in the screen shot is total time on.
I sold my EVO 4G LTE and got a S3. Couldn't be happier.
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I sold my EVO 4G LTE and got a S3. Couldn't be happier.
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why sell it? Its so new you can go back to sprint and ask to return it for the S3? XD
after reading this thread, glad I'm getting a s3 over the evo 4g lte!
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why sell it? Its so new you can go back to sprint and ask to return it for the S3? XD
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I used my upgrade for the iPhone 4S is why. Bought the EVO new for $549.95 from Sprint.
Sold the iPhone for $450 on eBay 2 weeks prior to the EVO release. I pre-ordered two. Sold one EVO for $350 and bought the S3 for $360 with an otterbox case of eBay. Couldn't pass that deal.
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