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[Q] Getting rid of my dINC, should i get an X or a Fascinate

I've had nothing but bad experiences with every HTC phone i've ever had. From the Touch Pro, to the TP2, to the incredible.
I sent my old INC in and got a new one because it would boot loop for no apparant reason, the only thing i could think of is the 2150maH battery but tried with the stock battery and same thing.
So the first replacement phone i never received because somehow fedex got the shipping address fine, except the wrong city and zip code and they said verizon would have to call and have it changed, which they did, but it never got delivered and returned to sender. so they sent me a 2nd replacement. I got that one. Activated it yesterday morning, and not 4 hours into it, its boot looping again. I've had to factory reset 3 times and activate it twice (not counting the initial activation)
ugh

User error? Ive had all 3, the dinc is the best overall. did you root it and install custom roms?

Refurb?
Was the replacement (or original) DInc refurbished? I've heard nothing good about refurbs.
Are you using an SD card from another device in the DInc? An old SD card?
Is the SD card full or nearly so?
Rooting w/ UnrEVOked?
The 2 DInc's in our family have none of the issues you listed, we have one each of the AMOLED and SLCD. Both have been extensively modified - ROMs, kernels, PRL's, etc etc. Both run the 2150 battery from VZW. Is your 2150 from elsewhere?
Subjective Opinion:
FWIW, the DX is severely limited in what can be modified since it's not fully rooted. Compared to the DInc, essentially all you can really do on the DX is theme variants of the stock ROM. Then there is the small, and seemingly dis-interested group of devs. There just aren't as many devs because there is so little you can actually truly develop for the device.
IDK anything about the Samsung, but a quick look @ the Fascinate forum here on XDA..... the number of ROMs or mods isn't anywhere near what there are for the DInc.
To be fair, the DInc community has the benefit of time and has a strong bench of interested developers, but browsing the Fascinate forum doesn't look so interesting as the DInc forum.
So, it really depends on what you want to do w/ your device - if you want to be able to modify it six ways from Sunday, it's the DInc, no question.
DX, not so much.
Fascinate - meh.
that's my $0.02

I had both the TP1 & TP2, used mightymike (from ppcgeeks) roms on both of them and the phones were amazing. The Inc is the best phone I have ever owned. I too am going to have to go with user error.
Are you stock or rooted? If you are rooted what have you installed? What kernel are you using? What type of screen is the refurb?
If you don't care to try and fix it, and you must have a different phone now, I would go with the Samsung. The DX is horrible, screen looks like crap, not fully rooted, etc... The Samsung is a bit better, but I don't think it is anywhere near as good as the Inc.

Verizon has a batch of crap Incs that they got back in as warranty phones and instead of actually fixing the problem (bootloop) they factory reset the damn things and set them back out broken. Its just a big cycle, it took me 3 Incs in a week to get one that actually worked. They offered the X and honestly I probably would've taken that over the Fascinate, neither phone has the developer support that the Inc has, and at least the X will be supported by the manufacture.

Wait a couple weeks and get the Thunderbolt. Just don't mess up your phone again and you won't have to bug Verizon for a replacement.

Agreed
I am on DINC 3 myself. The 'bad batch' would be the first batch of DINC's as they shipped with a faulty hardware radio. They would struggle so hard to get a signal, that the phone would superheat, and bootloop. That happened to my DINC 1.
DINC 2 shipped to me with an already blown speaker (I guess running 30 seconds of electronic diagnostics before shipping out a returned phone, doesn't test for that).
I have had DINC 3 since August, and while I think I may have a small power issue, it is fine.
I would not get the X. My wife has the Droid 2 and I just can't stand MotoBlur. Combine that with the relative difficulty of getting a custom ROM on the 2/X (you have to use a few market solutions to force one on), and you may as well pass on Motorola products.

I'll just tell you that I've had nothing but problems with my Droid 1 and 2. I went through 7 (I lost count) before they sent me the Droid 2. I had two replacements for the Droid 2 before they sent me the Incredible. My 3rd incredible is on the way tomorrow. In general I've had terrible luck with refurbs. The quality control is non existent. But if I had to give you advise on the X over the Samsung I would go with Samsung. Knowing how many problems I've had with Motorola phones I'd hesitate to ever own one again.

I got a refurb in November. AMOLED and works perfectly. My fault I needed to get it replaced, too.

Jes7er said:
I got a refurb in November. AMOLED and works perfectly. My fault I needed to get it replaced, too.
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I hope I have your luck then. I don't care about the whole AMOLED vs LED deal. I just want a freakin phone that works correctly.

At first the fascinate was an okay phone and slow on developement and me being use to my d1 development amount got frustrated by the lack of it. Now however, I have to say with froyo being here and other ROMs at around 80% done with more on their way I'm beginning to love this phone like I should have in the first place. You honestly can't beat the internals on this phone right now with anything on the market and I highly recommended it over the DX due to the locked bootloader (and let's not even get into the screen/camera differences)
As always remember that any kind of post on here (including mine) is subject to bias and you should really just get the one that suits your needs best if you really want to even leave the dinc. Just my 2cents.
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if you constantly like to flash things, i would not recommend either, but just stick with the incredible and wait for something else.

I would wait as well. I've not had a lot of confidence in moto phones since my pos Moto Q (which I stall have and works if anyone wants to buy that junk lol). I've also seen the fascinate from a coworker, and while the screen looks nice, the rest doesn't seem to impress me.
Get yourself a free flip, cancel the data plan and wait a month or 3, take the money you saved from no data plan and get some newer nicer phone than all the rest of us on aa 1 year contract. Or get another Dinc, find someone on CL or something that wants to trade you for a samsung and a couple of bucks and swap or something.

A buddy of mine hates his Droid x. Don't know anything about the others
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Don't get either.
X sucks
Fascinate sucks and buggy and not well supported. Get the thunderbolt or wait for the LG or MOTO dual core phones. There might even be a dInc 2 coming soon.

trillonometry said:
User error? Ive had all 3, the dinc is the best overall. did you root it and install custom roms?
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The first one I did, but it happened while stock as well as rooted, with any kernel/rom combination i tried.
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box. I highly doubt its user error as I didnt even do anything outside of activate it and add my google account before it started
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Was the replacement (or original) DInc refurbished? I've heard nothing good about refurbs.
Are you using an SD card from another device in the DInc? An old SD card?
Is the SD card full or nearly so?
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Yes, it was a refurb. thats all they will give me.
I've tried a number of SD's and even bought a brand new one. no change
g00s3y said:
I had both the TP1 & TP2, used mightymike (from ppcgeeks) roms on both of them and the phones were amazing. The Inc is the best phone I have ever owned. I too am going to have to go with user error.
Are you stock or rooted? If you are rooted what have you installed? What kernel are you using? What type of screen is the refurb?
If you don't care to try and fix it, and you must have a different phone now, I would go with the Samsung. The DX is horrible, screen looks like crap, not fully rooted, etc... The Samsung is a bit better, but I don't think it is anywhere near as good as the Inc.
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See above, but there is absolutely zero way this is a user error and so many people are having problems. there is literally a 20 page topic on the VZW forums of people having this issue who are on their 7th and 8th dINCs
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I am on DINC 3 myself. The 'bad batch' would be the first batch of DINC's as they shipped with a faulty hardware radio. They would struggle so hard to get a signal, that the phone would superheat, and bootloop. That happened to my DINC 1.
DINC 2 shipped to me with an already blown speaker (I guess running 30 seconds of electronic diagnostics before shipping out a returned phone, doesn't test for that).
I have had DINC 3 since August, and while I think I may have a small power issue, it is fine.
I would not get the X. My wife has the Droid 2 and I just can't stand MotoBlur. Combine that with the relative difficulty of getting a custom ROM on the 2/X (you have to use a few market solutions to force one on), and you may as well pass on Motorola products.
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Yea mine was pre-ordered so it would definitely have been from the first batch
bomber889 said:
if you constantly like to flash things, i would not recommend either, but just stick with the incredible and wait for something else.
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this phone is literally unusable. hopefully number 3 (4 actually, though i never received 2 to know if it would work) will be better.

xmilkmanx said:
The first one I did, but it happened while stock as well as rooted, with any kernel/rom combination i tried.
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box. I highly doubt its user error as I didnt even do anything outside of activate it and add my google account before it started
Yes, it was a refurb. thats all they will give me.
I've tried a number of SD's and even bought a brand new one. no change
See above, but there is absolutely zero way this is a user error and so many people are having problems. there is literally a 20 page topic on the VZW forums of people having this issue who are on their 7th and 8th dINCs
Yea mine was pre-ordered so it would definitely have been from the first batch
this phone is literally unusable. hopefully number 3 (4 actually, though i never received 2 to know if it would work) will be better.
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Good luck man, I know how your feeling.

the refurb i got was jewed out of the box.
Wtf does that mean?

hexon said:
I'll just tell you that I've had nothing but problems with my Droid 1 and 2. I went through 7 (I lost count) before they sent me the Droid 2. I had two replacements for the Droid 2 before they sent me the Incredible. My 3rd incredible is on the way tomorrow. In general I've had terrible luck with refurbs. The quality control is non existent. But if I had to give you advise on the X over the Samsung I would go with Samsung. Knowing how many problems I've had with Motorola phones I'd hesitate to ever own one again.
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Hmmm what's the common denominator here? 12 phones total over 3 models?

midnight assassin said:
the refurb i got was jewed out of the box.
Should watch what you say a little closer. No offense, I'm not anyone's dad, but that's crossing the line.
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Should I get this phone?

I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.

try it, you can always return it. i've never once got LOS. 3g sucks but that's sprint's network, not the phone. my battery life is really good. the phone takes forever to charge but i don't have any weird draining issues like some people.
sometimes i think xda has a tendancy to blow things out of proportion. i'd say give it a try, if it sucks you can exchange it and swap it out or go back to your evo.

dw3bb10 said:
I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
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No one can tell you what phone to get.
Here's some comments on your concerns:
1) The LoStkernel from chris41g almost completely eliminates LOS.
2) Slow 3g speeds are coming to an end with Sprint Network Vision
3) Battery life seems to be phone dependent. Some get great life, I for one get crappy life. As AOSP ROMs come out I have a feeling the battery issues will be resolved.
4) With AOSP, ICS will for sure come to this device. No question. No debate.

dw3bb10 said:
I really want it, but searching this forum, it seems to be flooded with issues from LOS, slow 3G speeds, and battery. What do you guys think? And what are the chances of it getting ICS?! Coming from an OG EVO btw.
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LOS = n/a: When I use a stock kernel; I had two instances when I didn't. Which is why I use stock now.
Slow 3G speeds = they are all about the same - 1.1-1.6Mbps. Was about the same on Evo 3D recently.
Battery = best battery ever. Twice battery of Evo 3D and Evo4G.

OP its a tiny % that have all these issues. Odds say you will ne fine my brother. Its a good phone.

I brought up the 3G speeds not because of Sprints network, but because some people said there were issues where they would get CRAPPY speeds on this device, and test on say an EVO, and get amazing speeds. Reminded me of when the Nexus S 4G came out, and had reception issues (particularly with 4G), so thats where my concern was. I figured im just going to go ahead and pick it up!

Woot! Lol
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the only thing i HATE about this phone is the battery life. But like others have said, I'm just one of the few. The battery just drains like crazy, losing 12%/hr over night. It's insane. I'll be rooting it in a few days but that' hasn't been a verified fix. And i'm too cheap to get a replacement (refurb) from Sprint for $35 lol.

just remember, people with the problems are going to be the most prominent and loudest.
how often will someone make a post like " my phone is great, absolutely nothing to complain about!"?

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just remember, people with the problems are going to be the most prominent and loudest.
how often will someone make a post like " my phone is great, absolutely nothing to complain about!"?
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+1 I couldn't agree more

All i have to say "get this beast"!!
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this phone is the best android phone out right now. if you can wait a month im sure we will hear about something better coming around the corner. i would recommend this phone, it isnt perfect but its still great.

Best phone out if u can't wait for the galaxy nexus.i love mines
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I'd say if you had Sprint, this is argubaly th best phone you can get. Those problems aren't a big deal and you won't find another phone without problems. These problems you say are really things that will be fixed in prob 3 months?

So best buy would be the best bet? Even if the upgrade is on a total different account? I just dont want to lose the discount on the phone!

Mines worked great until I rooted it. I went from never having LoS to random LoS
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Both of mine LOS'd from the get go. In fact the First one LOS'd on the way home from the Sprint store. It's a really fast, really pretty phone....If Sam/Sprint give it a little love it would be the best phone they have. Until then, I wouldn't recommend this phone.

Rooted phone does not cause the LOS!! Rooted phone just makes u to access more stuffs with ur phone than unrooted phone.
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Rooted phone does not cause the LOS!! Rooted phone just makes u to access more stuffs with ur phone than unrooted phone.
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And honestly if Rooting your phone did cause LOS's that would be just another reason not to buy it.

I got 3 of epic touchs none of them los but i know one thing for sure is not the rooting. I like this phone alot
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Evo 4g lte

I live in west Michigan and am waiting for the LTE system to be up and runningg to get my new phone after getting burned on the WiMax deal. I have become a huge fan of rooting since i did it on my evo earlier this year. I started thinking earlier today...
i wonder how long it will be before we can root the new evo 4g lte... I am not waiting to root this one, it will be done as soon as I can. I waited over a year to do my OG evo and i love the customization.

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I live in west Michigan and am waiting for the LTE system to be up and runningg to get my new phone after getting burned on the WiMax deal. I have become a huge fan of rooting since i did it on my evo earlier this year. I started thinking earlier today...
i wonder how long it will be before we can root the new evo 4g lte... I am not waiting to root this one, it will be done as soon as I can. I waited over a year to do my OG evo and i love the customization.
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From what I've heard, it may be a long time. Read the other threads regarding the EVO LTE. Someone posted some bad news in all of them earlier today. Seems that HTC screwed us.
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The new bootloaders are unlockable through HTC dev. So we will be able to unlock, but they are limited as they cannot mount usb in recovery.
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They will find a way to s-off after 3-4 months. They found a crazy way to get s-off on the htc rezound using a wire and touching two pins on the back of the phone when the rooting software says to. I would like to know who figured that out. Amazing
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PsiPhiDan said:
From what I've heard, it may be a long time. Read the other threads regarding the EVO LTE. Someone posted some bad news in all of them earlier today. Seems that HTC screwed us.
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I believe that NOTHING is impossible... no matter how hard phone manufacturers try to "screw" us and keep us from rooting, some dev will find a way to root/hack it. Im not eligible for my upgrade til October so that'll give them time to work it out.

One of the biggest factors for me is the non-removable battery.... I feel like that is my failsafe whenever the phone isnt responding. There better be a hot restart like holding the home and power putton like on the iPhone

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One of the biggest factors for me is the non-removable battery.... I feel like that is my failsafe whenever the phone isnt responding. There better be a hot restart like holding the home and power putton like on the iPhone
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There is. Plus there's a button combo to shut off the phone entirely, allowing you to theoretically either turn back on, or boot into recovery if something is really wrong. I think I heard you have to hold down the power button for like ten seconds straight or something like that. No worries, HTC wasn't THAT stupid.
But yes, I am of the belief that we will have our s-off eventually, and honestly, I don't need it for a while. I'm going to enjoy my new product stock, and I don't think I'll miss my flashing at all - that's how awesome this phone appears to perform. Now, down the road (6 to 12 months) when things are getting old and I want some tweaks, sure. But I bet by then, given the massive amount of popularity this phone will garner, I feel safe assuming someone will find a way around the issues.
As a side note, WOW to that story about the Rezound! That's incredible! Who decided once to just stick pins in their phone and see if that works??

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There is. Plus there's a button combo to shut off the phone entirely, allowing you to theoretically either turn back on, or boot into recovery if something is really wrong. I think I heard you have to hold down the power button for like ten seconds straight or something like that. No worries, HTC wasn't THAT stupid.
But yes, I am of the belief that we will have our s-off eventually, and honestly, I don't need it for a while. I'm going to enjoy my new product stock, and I don't think I'll miss my flashing at all - that's how awesome this phone appears to perform. Now, down the road (6 to 12 months) when things are getting old and I want some tweaks, sure. But I bet by then, given the massive amount of popularity this phone will garner, I feel safe assuming someone will find a way around the issues.
As a side note, WOW to that story about the Rezound! That's incredible! Who decided once to just stick pins in their phone and see if that works??
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Thanks for clearing that up for me!

How you got into this...

Well i was sitting back wondering how i got into rooting phones and decided to post this, How did you guys get into modding, rooting phones and when you started?
Well i got into this just before i got my tablet, which was a coby kryos, and it wasnt very good and didnt have the android market, so i did some research and found a website, and proceeded to do this thing called rooting. after it was all said and done, i thought i was done messing around with the phone, but then i find out about this other OS that is android but runs a little better than the stock rooted OS. Called Cyanogen mod 7. followed the instructions and it worked. so i took it further and rooted my phone i had at the time, the intercept. Thus this addiction was formed.
Everyday i would look to see if there was an update for my phone. or a updated version of cm7. Once i found out that there wasnt really a big community for either the kyros or the intercept i decided to go to a galaxy phone. took my sisters upgrade and got the E4gT. and since then its almost been smooth sailing for rooting, etc.
Now i am to the point where i want to start developing roms and what not, just have to get the courage to start such a big project.
How did you guys start with this? Whats your story? Keep us occupied while we wait for source and leaks.

Well I started all the way back from the sony psp days, I was super desperate to play final fantasy 7 and wasn't willing to buy my 3rd ps2 just to play it and the thought of it being portable and play it anywhere is too good to pass up, then learned how to start flashing custom firmwares for it, then moved to jailbreaking ipod touches(yes I had three) but jailbreaking is annoying, i actually had to go leaps and bounds just to make it do what android is capable of as stock(play any videos format, flash content, download anything online,etc) so just decided to buy my first android the galaxy s fascinate(redhead step child of the galaxy s line) and now here

i went to sprint and i had the choise to get a I-SUCK OR A galaxyi got a galaxy never like apples i saw videos on youtube of people modding the galaxy so i gave a try and here im learning
well for started i almost bricked my phone the first day lol tell how i came here and i went to the galaxy s2 forum not epic 4g touch.. lucky i figure it out that i was in the wrong forum and i came here and use sfhub one click l29 since i follow his instruction never had a problem again...

My first android phone was the HTC Hero. It got a couple updates and the last one sucked. It was horrible. Phone was super laggy and froze all the time. By then Gingerbread was out and Spirit said the phone would not run it. Did some research here on XDA and found people running GB who said the phone was much faster and more responsive. Did a bunch more reading to make sure I knew what I was doing and flashed a GB Rom. It was much better and had all kinds of new features.
Had to run the stock rom on this phone for awhile, but as soon as I found an easy way to root and mod it (thanks Sfhub), I flashed a custom Rom and never went back. I doubt if I will ever use a stock Rom again. I'll be getting a GS3 in September and there will be many great Rom choices by then. No doubt I will root it the day I buy it.This thread was a good idea. Thanks

How i started rooting phones, thank the htc touch pro for that. Ive used developers talents to modify 4 different platforms ;windows mobile palm,apple (ipad) and now my second android
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Started hacking and cracking years ago. Mostly on PC's and Linux based machines. Then saw this thing called Android sweeping the market. Then saw the galaxy s. I had to have it. So I got the Mesmerize. I took a few days to familiarize myself with it. Then hit the web and found XDA. It was on froyo so I used z4root to root it. Then I started reading all the stuff I could do to it. With the help of some great devs and nice people I was flashing away. We had a lot of great devs for that phone. The Mesmerize and Fascinate was like brother and sister. We could swap kernels and such. And the fassy devs was nice enough to do things for the mes too. It was an awesome first phone. Then got this thing and love it. The devs here are nice and do great work. I miss some of the old devs but some of them show up in here from time to time. Times and sbrissen are some. I miss it JT1134 but heard he quite development cause he didn't have the time. Anyway. I love android and couldn't imagine a better hobby.

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Started hacking and cracking years ago. Mostly on PC's and Linux based machines. Then saw this thing called Android sweeping the market. Then saw the galaxy s. I had to have it. So I got the Mesmerize. I took a few days to familiarize myself with it. Then hit the web and found XDA. It was on froyo so I used z4root to root it. Then I started reading all the stuff I could do to it. With the help of some great devs and nice people I was flashing away. We had a lot of great devs for that phone. The Mesmerize and Fascinate was like brother and sister. We could swap kernels and such. And the fassy devs was nice enough to do things for the mes too. It was an awesome first phone. Then got this thing and love it. The devs here are nice and do great work. I miss some of the old devs but some of them show up in here from time to time. Times and sbrissen are some. I miss it JT1134 but heard he quite development cause he didn't have the time. Anyway. I love android and couldn't imagine a better hobby.
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i think its a great hobby too. Even when im doing other hobbies, i seem to sneak away and go on premium and look around. i know theres flashaholics, well i think im more of a xdaholic.
and everytime i see people with android phones, i try to explain to them that they dont have full advantage of their phone, then i tell them to come here. most of them do some of them dont. This is a great community and the more the merrier. its always nice to be able to ask things about your phone with other people that have your phone. anyways continue...

I got into rooting devices during the Windows Phone days, with the HTC Touch Diamond. I remember the old days of roms kitchens and building roms, things will a little different back then.

I started with the original Samsung behold because I wanted free games and ever since then I can't stop lol
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Ahh my HTC ppc 6700... Makes me feel old lol. Back when wm was the ****. I used to get stopped all the time by people asking me about my phone. And then when skyfire came out and we could watch flash videos. I use to show off.
Mightymike use to have the best roms. When he released roms his servers would crash. Nrg would come out with the latest and greatest for EVERY phone. Thats where sense started and always was memory hog. Back when xda was mainly a gsm website. Cdma people were all at ppcgeeks. I still see a few guys every now and then from ppcgeeks. Calkulins a legend. And ziggy, tsowen, santod with their themes. No2chem, conflipper, cmonex just to name a few. Lol
Sorry i was just reminiscing.
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Sorry double post

I used to have a Motorola hint. Always tried to play games, but no luck. Started learning about unlocking and got Motorola phone tools. I was able to fix my phone after I thought I killed it sideloading music onto my sd card. After that, me and my honey got Ascends, and I wanted to be able to fix my phone if I did something...stupid. read a bunch on rooting and one day, I took the plunge. I was a little apprehensive about voiding my warranty, but loved being rooted and Rom'ed. Got my Ascend 2 in December and rooted that. Then my buddy gave me his old HTC mytouch3g Fender edition. That was a beast to root, but I finally got it. Just waiting to save up for a better phone now...must mod!!! That's my story.
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DevalB said:
I got into rooting devices during the Windows Phone days, with the HTC Touch Diamond. I remember the old days of roms kitchens and building roms, things will a little different back then.
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Yep, same here. Good ol' Flipz fresh kitchen FTW. Lol.
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How I got into this
I've been reading about flashing and rooting ever since I got an evo 4g 2 yrs ago. Upgraded to the evo 3d and it came with a defective screen. I Ordered a Epic touch 4g to replace it and I got tired of all the b.s. about ics and decided to root. I can't believe I waited so long to do it. The bottom line is a week ago I flashed my 1st Rom using Odin one click, thank u qbking77, sfhub, sextape, chainfire , and everybody else who helped.Now I'm running cm9 nightlies after trying stock ff02 and ff11 and couldnt be happier. Im hooked. I rooted my girls evo earlier (s off and all) just to quench my thirst for a new rom to play with. I got a little to used to holding an evo again and accidently walked out the door with it on my way to work,lol. She's probably looking all over for the phone right now! Sorry honey. Hopefully she checks her email or fb on the PC ( cant call her) and sees my messages b4 she ends up tearing the house apart.

I have always been messing with everything electronic since I can remember. My dad worked on PC's so they where always around. I started really getting into phones with my Samsung a900 back in 05. I made a website on my home server that it could go to so I could side load apps and ring tones to it. Then I went on to WM and it just never stopped.

i had the HTC hero and wanted live wallpaper but i couldn't on stock so i rooted and ended up running cm7

rujelus22 said:
I have always been messing with everything electronic since I can remember. My dad worked on PC's so they where always around. I started really getting into phones with my Samsung a900 back in 05. I made a website on my home server that it could go to so I could side load apps and ring tones to it. Then I went on to WM and it just never stopped.
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Yeah I've been working on computers since I was a little kid. I remember helping my dad build his comp. When I was like 8. So I've been into computers for awhile. But i never had a forum I went to as much as this one. Even right now as I wait to go to work I'm on here 3-4am. Fb doesn't even get this much attention. Lol continue...
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I bought a Samsung Moment, what choice did i have
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I've always tinkered with electronics since I was little. Pissed my dad off a number of times taking apart computers and frying the HDD (didn't know static=bad day for a HDD when I was that little). I moved on to software from there. All of it is self taught the hard way or from the magic of Google. Eventually I got a Blackberry and started flashing "hybrid" setups on them until Android came out. My first Android was the MyTouch 3G Slide. I learned a lot from that phone before I moved to a G2. Overclocking a phone to 2GHz+ was just insane It was like having a nuclear reactor in my pocket. Now here I am. I've progressed to being able to decompile apk's, do what I want, and recompile a working app. We'll see what the future holds.
Good luck to every other aspiring dev on here. Don't get discouraged by any complexity or any trolls on here. I promise you're probably over thinking most things and trolls are just trolls.

Mytouch 3g. HTC decided to skip the 2.1 update and make me wait longer for 2.2 I took matters into my own hands. Thought I messed up when it got stuck at the splash screen. Turns out I missed the gapps file.(used to have to flash it before cm). After that all my phones were rooted within 24 hrs. G2,Mt4g, g2x, nexus s, and now my et4g. Unofficialy updated the dell streak 7 to honeycomb. And am currently trying to convince the gf that I won't turn the transformer prime into a $500 brick.
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[POLL] How Long Before You Rooted SGS3?

Quick Poll: how long before you had your brand-new Samsung Galaxy S III before you rooted it?

Really just depends on familiarity of the process. As I came from a Nexus S, I was used to the google experience. I could not stand TouchWiz. Basically within hours of obtaining the phone, I rooted and flashed custom rom/kernel.

I would have to say anyone coming to this forum. And are reading this has already done it within the first week.

I thought I would root it the first day because I've never really been a fan of the touchwiz stuff but to my surprise it had some nice features and didn't look half bad. The motion stuff in particular is handy, and Wi-Fi calling is great. But at the end of the day I like a pretty clean notification area plus all the customisatiocustomization, so now I'm running a hybrid of CyanogenMod, AOKP, and ParanoidAndroid called Paranoid Kangdroid. Loving all the tweaks even if I sacrifice a little stability.

You'd be surprised how long some will stay on stock if it works right, and battery life is good. I've read people in these forums that say, non rooted and stock rom.
me on the other hand, since root was already achievable and un-root was a guarantee I rooted and flashed a rom within 1 hour lol.

As soon as my wife gave the green light (about a month after purchase) so that i could install wifi hotspot root required version (that i now cannot get working after the JB update!) LOL.

I rooted mine within 30 mins of getting home and the ONLY reason it took that long was because I had to Root my wife's phone first (my vote was for "Right out of the box").
BUT, Rooting didn't mean Flashing. Yes I did Root it that quick, but I stayed on Stock LH2 for about 3 days or so and then flashed a kernel and finally succumbed to the "need" to flash. So I think that your question is valid, but I don't think it is really what you want to know (or maybe it is).
Main reasons I rooted was because I was restoring through Titanium and, this is a personal preference, I will root any and every device I own and have since I first came to this site. That does not mean that I haphazardly flash something or run some auto-root.apk without reading and know what will happen *during* the root process.
Once you are Rooted, it is Cake City, USA. Getting there is where the fun is. My very first phone was rooted with an apk, but then we had to run terminal hacks to force App2sd on Eclair. Imagine your very first Android phone and having to run terminal hacks. Not fun or easy back then.

I did it in the parking lot at Costco about 5 minutes after getting it while my wife shopped. Had my laptop and my company hot spot with me. : )

Within an hour of taking it out of the box.
Coming from a long line of Sense use (Hero roms on G1, Desire roms on HD2, myTouch 4G and Amaze 4G), the only reason I got the phone was because I broke my Amaze 4G (best phone I've owned so far, better than SGS III imho) T-Mobile didn't carry HTC One X and One S wouldn't have felt like an upgrade from my Amaze 4G (and from what I've read, it wasn't).
I had never owned a Samsung android device, so I played with it for about 30 minutes. I couldn't stand it. Between all the hints, hand holding, and constant nagging of motion "features", plus the bloat, and a general feeling of slugishness, I decided to go with CM 9.
It was the "features" I had the most problems with. They were very, very, very unintuitive. You had to learn them, and I've tried, since I actually went back to touch wiz after problems with CM and gave it a week, but still, I couldn't put up with Samsung's changes, which felt like they were just changes to stock android just for the sake of being different and often added nothing or even made functionality worse. It pretty much felt like every CM rom pre-CM9 if you ever used those, "features" upon features and menus upon menus upon menus that complicated the experience and robbed the build of any sort of cohesion. I'm glad CM 9 and 10 did better, otherwise I would have had to make my bone-stock AOSP rom.

I rooted just getting home from tmobile. Want to restore all my stuff as soon as possible. Then I flashed a rom later that night when I got home drunk lol
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As soon as I got home and after taking a dump.
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"Right out of the box."
I was busy flashing my old Hercules for my mom's purposes on the car ride home.
Dif. modem, wallpaper, ringtone, and contacts.
Used zedomax's method.
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