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For Bell I9000M users - Samsung Canada Facebook Page To Comment On 3 Button Issue

I encourage anyone concerned about the availability of the 3 button download mode, or other issues, to comment on the Samsung Facebook page. I already posted a comment and got a response I find somewhat disturbing... maybe there is strength in numbers.
http://www.facebook.com/samsungmobi...omment#!/samsungmobilecanada?v=wall&ref=notif

Make sure he doesn't duck the question. 3 button means that experienced end users can actually fix a bad flash (lol @ Kies) without having to lose their phone for a month (Allgamer is at the 3 week mark now after sending his phone in).

Hopefully they will provide an answer. I have since returned mine back to Future Shop. I've tried 4 other phones hoping to be able to do an exchange, but all of them had 3 button recovery disabled. If they release a fix for this I will buy the phone in an instant.

I saw your post over there...
Exactly what I figured their response would be... I for one am not holding my breath for an update through Samsung to enable 3 button recovery.
They messed though by inexplicably letting some through with it enabled...Makes it hard to justify why some have it and some don't... If anything, expect an update to disable it on the ones that have it enabled!
I hope otherwise, but in all seriousness, the majority of users will likely never have to use recovery and the average user out there is not an xda-developpers member. Yes, Samsung will have to deal with bricks but probably in their mind, they are making it slightly harder to do 'unauthorized' stuff.

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I am also not holding my breath...

n0th1ng said:
Hopefully they will provide an answer. I have since returned mine back to Future Shop. I've tried 4 other phones hoping to be able to do an exchange, but all of them had 3 button recovery disabled. If they release a fix for this I will buy the phone in an instant.
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I'm pretty much in the same boat. No recovery mode, no sale.

xtoad said:
I saw your post over there...
Exactly what I figured their response would be... I for one am not holding my breath for an update through Samsung to enable 3 button recovery.
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Please add a comment, the more the better!
DarthV said:
I'm pretty much in the same boat. No recovery mode, no sale.
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Meh, I am not going that far. Recovery mode is a nice to have but it is not going to deprive me of the best phone on the market by miles (there is not a phone that is going to be better than the 3GS for at least 6 months or more, nothing is in the pipeline that comes close)

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Please add a comment, the more the better!
Meh, I am not going that far. Recovery mode is a nice to have but it is not going to deprive me of the best phone on the market by miles (there is not a phone that is going to be better than the 3GS for at least 6 months or more, nothing is in the pipeline that comes close)
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Until you accidentally brick it, then you are paying $60 a month while it goes off to get fixed. Yes, it's awesome hardware, but without 3 button, it's not worth it to me. I'm also stubborn enough to demand a resolution to this issue before forking out the money a 2nd time

I've left a comment of the Facebook page. Let's hope someone hears something. Going back to using my iPhone has killed me.

wow samsung come on your slacking
Samsung Mobile Canada Hi Jason. 3 button download mode is for internal firmware functions and is not recommended to end-users. It’s typically used by technicians to service malfunctioning phones. Modifying the internal firmware on a mobile phone device may void the warranty. What function you are trying to do? Maybe we can help find another way. Feel free to reach out to us at 1-800-SAMSUNG and we'll see how we can help. Thank
sounds like they could fix it but might not if your dumb enough to flash your bell sgs and have the 3 button combo disabled best of luck to you

haha sumsung cant ignore facebook
ive taken back 6 phones 600x6 is 3600 worth of phones lol and they all didnt have recovery so i took them back best buys 100% satisfaction guarantee gotta love it

Smash them boys!

I strongly recommend that you start new fresh posts each time instead of replying into a long one. Multiple posts on the wall are much more visible and potentially effective.
Come one guys, hit them hard (while staying polite obviously)

Posted on the wall.

Good idea will post to wall
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done my part
they will hate it, i hope they don't remove it

just for reference the correct link to the wall is
http://www.facebook.com/samsungmobilecanada#!/samsungmobilecanada

DarthV said:
Until you accidentally brick it, then you are paying $60 a month while it goes off to get fixed. Yes, it's awesome hardware, but without 3 button, it's not worth it to me. I'm also stubborn enough to demand a resolution to this issue before forking out the money a 2nd time
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If I am unlucky enough to brick it (which, despite my rants, is pretty hard to actually do in practice.... as long as you are flashing with a stable laptop it is not going to brick), then I'll get it replaced under warranty. The odds of me flashing it again after Froyo is out are near zero.
See, unlike WinMo, you don't have to re-flash Android to customize it, nearly everything on the phone can be customized in-line. All the stuff Cyogen etc. are doing can be done without flashing the phone, so you don't have to worry about bricking it
I learned from my years with my HTC dev. that re-flashing every few weeks is a huge pain in the butt, and I don't plan on doing that again with this phone.

astralmind said:
I strongly recommend that you start new fresh posts each time instead of replying into a long one. Multiple posts on the wall are much more visible and potentially effective.
Come one guys, hit them hard (while staying polite obviously)
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Be careful, if you post too many things on the wall, they will just get frustrated and get Facebook to remove all the posts. You can do that with paid Facebook pages like this.

they removed one of my messages

buttons quit working

so i bought a second hand slide for my wife maybe a month ago. it was supposedly brand new (i believe it was). i've rooted it and have cyan's latest running on it. today, however, several of the buttons quit working. home is okay and so is the genius button. but the menu, back, and touchpad have all stopped responding. is this something that's occuring with this phone with frequency? i haven't called tmobile yet as i'm currently restoring her app's from a fresh wipe but i'd thought i'd see if this has happened to anyone else.

damngood98 said:
so i bought a second hand slide for my wife maybe a month ago. it was supposedly brand new (i believe it was). i've rooted it and have cyan's latest running on it. today, however, several of the buttons quit working. home is okay and so is the genius button. but the menu, back, and touchpad have all stopped responding. is this something that's occuring with this phone with frequency? i haven't called tmobile yet as i'm currently restoring her app's from a fresh wipe but i'd thought i'd see if this has happened to anyone else.
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No, never happened to me, did you say you already tried doing a full wipe/reflash? If that didn't work try flashing a different ROM like cr_mod or 3rd sense and see if the buttons work in those. Could be a corrupted ROM, redownload and reflash it. If you haven't already, update to 6.1.1.

next day the touch screen stopped working next. can't even answer a phone call. phone is fried. that was after upgrading. beginning to doubt htc as a phone maker. went through several g1's. my nexus has screen issues, now this. not a fan of motorola's phones. and samsung sucks too. well, she's due for an upgrade, just at a loss as to what she's going to get now. thanks for trying to offer help though

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next day the touch screen stopped working next. can't even answer a phone call. phone is fried. that was after upgrading. beginning to doubt htc as a phone maker. went through several g1's. my nexus has screen issues, now this. not a fan of motorola's phones. and samsung sucks too. well, she's due for an upgrade, just at a loss as to what she's going to get now. thanks for trying to offer help though
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What kind of torcher you putting your phones through? Lol
Seriously though, never heard of someone going through phones the way you describe. I have yet to have even 1 issue with an HTC phone. Same with any other HTC users i know.
Might i recommened the motorola defy to you lol
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guitarist5122 said:
What kind of torcher you putting your phones through? Lol
Seriously though, never heard of someone going through phones the way you describe. I have yet to have even 1 issue with an HTC phone. Same with any other HTC users i know.
Might i recommened the motorola defy to you lol
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Haha, same here. I received a used g1 from a friend, I was its fifth owner I think, it had no issues, I ended up accidentally breaking it because I fell asleep on a recliner chair and it fell out of my pocket into the recliner mechanism and got its chin crushed. Poor thing. I took it apart and wiggled the bent connector a little bit, and it actually worked for a few more months, although fragile. Now it won't turn on anymore though, totally done. It lived a long life though.
Now I'm using the same friend's old slide, which he spilled a full glass of lemonade on. It didn't work for a week, then randomly started booting, so he gave it to me since he had already gotten a vibrant. The only thing that doesn't work on it is the camera, which I couldn't care less about.
HTC phones have been great for me, you must be treating your phones like they are $40 dumbphones made by nokia.

lol! no, that would be my son who treats his g1 like a hacky sack. it's my wife who's having all the bad luck. i may try taking it apart and seeing what i can do but believe me she pretty much uses her phone as a phone and to facebook. otherwise it sits in her purse. although she has gotten into angry birds lately and i do see her getting frustrated more & more.....

You bought a second hand phone that is now failing and you're blaming the manufacturer? It sounds like to me the previous owner may not have foreclosed some previous "incident" happening to the phone.

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next day the touch screen stopped working next. can't even answer a phone call. phone is fried. that was after upgrading. beginning to doubt htc as a phone maker. went through several g1's. my nexus has screen issues, now this. not a fan of motorola's phones. and samsung sucks too. well, she's due for an upgrade, just at a loss as to what she's going to get now. thanks for trying to offer help though
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I realize I'm arriving a little late to this conversation but Im wondering if you ever figured anything out with this? My phone did the exact same thing this last weekend and after completely tearing it apart and cleaning all the connections I could, with not fix, I finally gave up and bought a G2. If you do have any ideas it would be awesome!

Same thing happened to me, I have a thread in the general section, I'm on my fifth slide
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One of the Cyanogen Mod nightlies was very unresponsive on touch and a few other things.
You can try a more stable cyanogen rom, and see if that makes a difference.

Its not that. The slide isnt just unresponsive, its not working at all. I wiped it all to start over and try a stable but now I cant get past the start up screen where you have to tap the android haha. I bought a G2 so if I fix it, it would just be to sell or as a backup. Anyone know anyone that wants to buy it?

When did you know...

...that you became hopelessly addicted to your smartphone? I realized mine when my Evo got stolen and I realized that not only was my very expensive and awesome phone gone, but now if I wanted to see any new emails, I had to open up my laptop and go to google periodically to check instead of having the Governator shout at me to "get in da choppa" every time a new email arrived.

but I'm not addicted I can stop any time.......

Yea, I can put my Evo down any time I want....and I could easily stop checking xda 100 times a day. No addiction here bro...
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jdelforge5684 said:
...that you became hopelessly addicted to your smartphone? I realized mine when my Evo got stolen and I realized that not only was my very expensive and awesome phone gone, but now if I wanted to see any new emails, I had to open up my laptop and go to google periodically to check instead of having the Governator shout at me to "get in da choppa" every time a new email arrived.
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mind sending/posting that notification sound? i'm already running 'bed intruder song' as my ringtone...
btw if you aren't rooted yet, you don't know what you're taking about...
bcuz i can stop anytime...

Not addicted, here cuz I want to be.
But not addicted.

for me it was the first 4am night modding my htc hero a year ago. little did i know on that first night, how many more similar nights would follow.
im not addicted, i just cant put my evo down...or stop refreshing xda pages...nm, im hooked.
edit: also, most of my bookmarks on my pc are xda pages. another sign

Yep, I had the all nighter session too! And the next day and the next.... I really knew it when I bricked my phone at work, stayed up late to fix it but couldn't, then had to be without the whole next day till I could sit down again and sort it out... So I flashed a new ROM!!! And it hasn't stopped, on my 5th Rom now in about 10 days....

I was actually late for work one day because I found a rom I really wanted to try and no freaking way was I gonna stop in the middle of a setup and no freaking way was I gonna go to work without my phone working right. I run the shipping dept at work and spend half the night all alone on my forklift on the other side of the plant than everyone else other than three guys work for me. We all been there awhile so other than tell them quick schedule for night they know what to do. I'd need rehab without my evo,power amp and bose earbuds. LOL I bet I check this place 3 times a night at least!

I would say I'm addicted I love trying out different builds for my evo. I just got it last Friday been loving it every since. Started off with a white hw 003 but didn't like the white anymore plus had this light leakage right below the captive buttons and the power button was sinking in so returned it for a black 004. day before yesterday but now my power button starting to sink in...is this normal, I don't even press on the power button hard fml
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Hi my name is Dave..... I'm a flashaholic.

JDM_HD2 said:
I would say I'm addicted I love trying out different builds for my evo. I just got it last Friday been loving it every since. Started off with a white hw 003 but didn't like the white anymore plus had this light leakage right below the captive buttons and the power button was sinking in so returned it for a black 004. day before yesterday but now my power button starting to sink in...is this normal, I don't even press on the power button hard fml
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My daughter has gone through 2 Evos (2 broken screens) and those 2 had the sinking power button prob....

I knew I as a addict
1. when my friends told me I spend to much time with the phone
2. When I first got the phone back in November and flashed every available rom for the Evo..I mean every one!!! This over a course of 2 or 3 months.
3. When I copy my nandroid backups to my computer. All 12 gigs of it...on my laptop.
4. When I first put on anon recovery and could flash new rooms without adb. It felt like I was having a secret affair..
5. When I used to read xda over my ebooks..
6. When my girl told me to put the darn phone down and eat dinner with her.
7. When I would go in titanium backup and delete every damn bloatware I did not need or think I would give a 0.000000000001 percent better battery life...
Now I am a recovering flashaholic...satiesfied with cm7(because of wimax support) the modified wireless tether..list goes on...

I, too, have flashed about every ROM there is, and I've only had my EVO for 3 months.
I thought I had it beat when, just for the hell of it, I ran the RUU, and started all over again from scratch.
I thought I had it beat last month when I put Koni III on. I thought i was finally satisfied with a ROM I could live with every day. Then King had to go and release his 4th Sense ROM. And THEN, VaelPak had to come out with RC2. Now Koni's working on Elite 4, and since I'm a donor, I can't sleep at night, waiting for the beta to be released......
I got it bad, man. I got it REAL bad....

Hipkat,
You are not alone...I know the feeling...let me put some other items I knew when I was addicted....I forget theses when I wrote first article..
A. When somebody sees my phone and says it that a droid...not android but the darn locked Droid from moto.. I say hell NO...
B. When another user is on a puny smaller screen..different phone..hero..incredible...and such...then pull out my evo and pretend to read my text and see their eyes get wide...real wide...
C. When somebody at work use a tablet with 3G built in...then I simply pull out my nook color or iPad and tether it to my baby..
D. When a iPhone user brags about their phone...then I pull up my evo..hold their phone close to my hand side to side and say...nice screen on your phone...you must have great eyesight and small fingers.....
E. Last but not least...have every copy of a rom..from different version up grade...and worst of all...look at my nandroid backups and just the time stamp and try to remember what backup was that?....hehe...

When I first jailbroke my iphone 3 years ago. It introduced me to modding on a whole new level.
Sent from my......ummm...let me get back at'chya!

chefdave12118 said:
My daughter has gone through 2 Evos (2 broken screens) and those 2 had the sinking power button prob....
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This is kind of a disspointment. I'm on my second evo also and my new one is almost leveled flat. I'm still within my 30 days so I might end up returning this one for another one. And with the new one see if I can remap the power button to the volume down or up button instead.

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This is kind of a disspointment. I'm on my second evo also and my new one is almost leveled flat. I'm still within my 30 days so I might end up returning this one for another one. And with the new one see if I can remap the power button to the volume down or up button instead.
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Remapping the buttons?????? Now that's good thinking..... oh btw I just checked my wifes Evo and her power button is sinking a bit.

The real addiction is not being able to stop trying to tweak it.

After reading all this I am starting to itch. Be right back after another flash.
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chefdave12118 said:
Remapping the buttons?????? Now that's good thinking..... oh btw I just checked my wifes Evo and her power button is sinking a bit.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850464
Yes remapping the buttons lol.
Edit: For now I just remapped the power button as the search button(Never use the search button anyway) The Volume Up button is now the Power button and the Search Button is now the Volume Up button haha.

[Q] After Power Button Pressed.....Stuck on Splash Screen made by SoCalDevs.Com

its rooted. s-off supersonic....i cant tell ya all the specifics of the phone but i wanted to change to 4g start up screen with the blocks and the start up sound. I think it was called a splash screen? Anyways. The phone doesn't hold a battery charge as it is. it went dead in my pocket and when i charged it back up and tried to start it up it just sticks on the splash screen i think its called? its a pic of my daughter and i. then usually it would then go to htc 4g evo quietly brilliant screen. it does not. the only thing it will do at this point is go to the screen of my pic i put in of me and my daughter. it does a lil vibrate for a sec as well. where do i go from here? lol lol im already invested in this phone for about two weeks of time. i get through everyother prob thanks to you guys but im stumped on this one.... please help...plus my screen is cracked. anyway to get a new screen cheaper than trying to use insurance to get a new one? thank you.....DuBBzILLa

Try to power off the phone. Then hold volume down + power buttons at the same time until the bootloader appears. Use the volume down button until RECOVERY IS HIGHLIGHTED, followed by the power button. You should see an option on the list to wipe. If you can, try to find and wipe only the Cache and then Dalvik cache. The reboot the phone.

got into clockworkmod
thanks a ton.....NOW...hehe. Can ya help me out with gettin my wifi back on and let me know two other things? can you get the alpha.apk or blackmarketalpha app american link. i downloaded it so i can grab apps for free but its in islamic writing. i can see some american writing but the site usaually crashes. and the other thing was how can i get the free hot spot wifi tethering? can some one line me up with what a rom is and which one is best for this htc evo 4g. i think i have a clue but im trying to get something where you can store up to 5 different roms on the sd card? also. i would like to get some links to some cool kernels. i have no idea what a kernel is either but some of these guru are blowing my phone out the water and i have the same phone. if poss. list the direct sites to guides and lead me to the up to date software outthere. is there anything i should be staying away from and i have cracked screen as well. is that easily replaceable because dubbzilla.weber is broke and has no insurance on this rooted device thanks short doggs. that was way cool of you because i almost chucked it into the mississippi. whew. amen to you guru's. what are you using and can ya teach me the way?

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thanks a ton.....NOW...hehe. Can ya help me out with gettin my wifi back on and let me know two other things? can you get the alpha.apk or blackmarketalpha app american link. i downloaded it so i can grab apps for free but its in islamic writing. i can see some american writing but the site usaually crashes. and the other thing was how can i get the free hot spot wifi tethering? can some one line me up with what a rom is and which one is best for this htc evo 4g. i think i have a clue but im trying to get something where you can store up to 5 different roms on the sd card? also. i would like to get some links to some cool kernels. i have no idea what a kernel is either but some of these guru are blowing my phone out the water and i have the same phone. if poss. list the direct sites to guides and lead me to the up to date software outthere. is there anything i should be staying away from and i have cracked screen as well. is that easily replaceable because dubbzilla.weber is broke and has no insurance on this rooted device thanks short doggs. that was way cool of you because i almost chucked it into the mississippi. whew. amen to you guru's. what are you using and can ya teach me the way?
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My friend it sounds like you need to take a ride over to development section ahd just read. There are tons of options for your Evo and the best bet would be to do some research on everything Sense, AOSP and MIUI roms. All have there pros and cons. Now for wifi tethering you can get that in the market. For up to date software just google latest software for your Evo. Not trying to discourage you but I think the more you learn on your own the better you feel at the end.
Cracked screen once again not sure where you live but check craigslist for people who fix them or once again check google. Take your time man and just read up on things it will be well worth it in the end to understand why you are doing what you are doing and not because a thread said you could....
Goog luck

I am currently Evo LTE coming to SGIII

I have been a EVO users for (2) years making the change to SGIII. I hope I am making the right decision. Couple of questions:
S-off obtainable?
Bootloader Y/N?
Battery Life?
Good Stable Rom?
Tell me what you guys think.

We don't need some soff because Samsung usually isn't a ****
Everything else hell yeah
Some things even hit this phone first
Hell I'm testing something for a guy that will be one of a kind once he shows it off
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The bootloader on the SGIII is not locked (so the equivalent of S-OFF on the HTC bootloaders does not apply). You simply use the Samsung Odin tool to flash a custom recovery so that you can then root or install a custom ROM. It is very easy to do.
The battery life has been good in the two weeks that I have had the phone but of course it depends on phone usage. I can burn the battery down if I am using the phone constantly but with my normal usage it lasts considerably longer than my Evo did.
When I look around I do find some other ROMs around but I have not made that leap yet. I am just running rooted stock. There is enough of an adjustment for me coming from Gingerbread Sense to Samsung ICS. I have not felt the need to do anything other than simple mods at this time.
I came to the SGIII after being on the Evo 4G for two years... I was torn between the Evo LTE and the Galaxy SIII. The things that drove me to the SIII were: replaceable battery, 2GB RAM, USB OTG...

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The bootloader on the SGIII is not locked (so the equivalent of S-OFF on the HTC bootloaders does not apply). You simply use the Samsung Odin tool to flash a custom recovery so that you can then root or install a custom ROM. It is very easy to do.
The battery life has been good in the two weeks that I have had the phone but of course it depends on phone usage. I can burn the battery down if I am using the phone constantly but with my normal usage it lasts considerably longer than my Evo did.
When I look around I do find some other ROMs around but I have not made that leap yet. I am just running rooted stock. There is enough of an adjustment for me coming from Gingerbread Sense to Samsung ICS. I have not felt the need to do anything other than simple mods at this time.
I came to the SGIII after being on the Evo 4G for two years... I was torn between the Evo LTE and the Galaxy SIII. The things that drove me to the SIII were: replaceable battery, 2GB RAM, USB OTG...
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Thanks for the update. I came for OG EVO to EVO LTE which I currently have but many problems have pushed me away. I did an (OTA) and brick my first EVO LTE. One thing that drives me nuts when i am in a call screen goes black. Non removable battery not a big fan either.
I will see tomorrow when I get my SGIII!!

S-off obtainable?
Samsung doesn't have S-On and S-Off but instead Locked and Unlocked. Unlike HTC's ****ty unlock, the samsung unlock fully unlocks your phone.
Bootloader Y/N?
There's a bootloader, but the place where you flash stuff like radio, recovery, etc. is in something called Download Mode. You can use an official samsung tool called ODIN to flash the stuff really easily.
Also every computer has a bootloader. A bootloader is what checks if all your hardware is working and initializes it when you start the device.
Battery Life?
Excellent. I can get 5 hours of screen on time. Similar to the Evo LTE.
Good Stable Rom?
All of the touchwiz ROMs are stable and good. They are all pretty similar so I'd recommend Blazer or FreeGS3.
If you want AOSP, Cyanogenmod nightlies are the best in terms of stability but AOKP and Paranoidandroid are still pretty stable. Keep in mind that none of the AOSP ROMs are stable, but are good enough for a daily driver. If you need stability, use touchwiz.

Wont regret it, my wife has an Evo LTE which i rooted (what a pain in the ass to get s-off) and the Gs3 feels way superior. Dev support for evo lte is not even close to the GS3. My previous phone was an EVO 3d and after having this phone no way im going back to HTC.
Sent from my GS3 on the **** network

That is exactly want I was hoping to hear. I am unrooting LTE as we speak and taking it back later today.
Thanks

Welcome to lag free world.
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Derekao said:
That is exactly want I was hoping to hear. I am unrooting LTE as we speak and taking it back later today.
Thanks
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I think you'll be a happy camper. Just make sure you don't root it the second you get it out of the box. Make sure you provision everything first and make sure your 3G connection is working. I jumped too quick and didn't have any data and had to call Sprint.
Check the Dev sub forum and you'll find videos by qbking that will guide you step-by-step on how to root your phone. It's a simple process if you have any knowledge in the subject at all.

Yep... I think if HTC wants to survive, they need to take a few lessons from Samsung. They need to give up on the control thing. They are gaining nothing by doing that.

edufur said:
Yep... I think if HTC wants to survive, they need to take a few lessons from Samsung. They need to give up on the control thing. They are gaining nothing by doing that.
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I never thought I'd ever hear anyone say this! Back when I was suffering through my T-Mobile Vibrant (Samsung Galaxy S) days, I was firmly in the #neveragain camp. I couldn't wait to jump to HTC. Then sometime around a year or so ago, things started changing. First, I guess because of the success of the galaxy line in general, a lot of devs started working on the Samsung phones. The Vibrant still suffered, because it had horrendous GPS (still does to some extent) locks and Samsung wouldn't release either the source code or updates. But the open source community worked wonders. I think the Vibrant was possibly amongst the first phones with an ICS ROM - working ICS ROM. I have been using ICS since December on my Vibrant. It got the JB ROM almost 2 months ago - a stable daily driver JB ROM.
Even so, this was all the open source community with Samsung doing Jack. When I saw the specs for the HTC One X, I was sure I was switching to HTC. Then Samsung hired Steve Kondik and I'm sure he's had something to do with this, but Samsung suddenly started releasing source codes left right and center. As others have said, they never locked the boot loader in the first place and now with the same device on millions of phones (with very minor changes), they have the best of both worlds. But I was still determined to get the One X - especially when Sprint added a SD Card, a kickstand and a dedicated camera button. The display is phenomenal (the one place it totally kicks the S3's butt), but the non removable battery was giving me some pause. I spent some time in the HTC EVO LTE forums and started seeing the multi tasking problems and decided that with the 2GB RAM and the removable battery and the developer community, I was better off with the S3. On top of that, I think HTC went in the other direction. From a nudge-nudge-wink-wink co-inhabitation with the open source community, they went with locked boot loaders, slower releases of the source code.
I finally pulled the plug and decided to go with the S3 - although I must say, I did debate for 5 minutes whether I should wait for the Note 2.
I don't anticipate running any custom ROMS yet on the S3 that I'll be getting next week. But I'll definitely be rooting it and installing Nova launcher. If Samsung hasn't released JB by next month, I'll probably be using CM10. It's already very stable on my Vibrant. It's sure to be stable on the S3 in a month's time.
I wish HTC well and hope they come out with a good phone the next time I'm in the market for a phone.

Made the switch myself today after my 4th defective evolution lte..
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I had the evo lte for 3 days and could not get a 4g lte signal in my house. I never loose lte in my house with the s3
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When I was due for an upgrade, well a line was eligible on my account, I was looking at going with the HTC LTE and decided that I wanted to be able to pull my battery so I didn't give it another thought. I upgraded from the S II to the S III, it was a good move. I had the phone for about 4 hours before I decided to root it and about a day and a half before I decided to put a custom ROM on it
I chose Team Sonic-FreeGS3 mainly because it has the same look and feel as the original stock with added tweaks.
I unplug my phone at around 7 am each morning and use my phone for email and text mainly while at work with some phone calls peppered in, when I get home usually around 530pm, I will have 75% battery life left. I'm very impressed with this ROM and it continues to get better and better. It's very stable and I haven't run into any issues with this ROM

You should check Motorola's policy. No single way to unlock bootloader :crying:
Next phone...definitely Samsung, maybe from Nexus line

Hey Derek, I came from the originals evo also. This has some keyboard lag at random times, and very minor issues, but hardly noticeable. Better than the new evo, compared to the old evo, this is heaven. Look at this, just from texting all day, kik, facebook, xda, and some web browsing and YouTube a little. But one thing I must warn you about, when you get it, at first battery life will seem to suck but it doesn't. You just happen to be going crazy with it not putting it down XD and downloading stuff and personalizing and all that. Screen on in the screen shot is total time on.

I sold my EVO 4G LTE and got a S3. Couldn't be happier.
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james33440 said:
I sold my EVO 4G LTE and got a S3. Couldn't be happier.
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why sell it? Its so new you can go back to sprint and ask to return it for the S3? XD

after reading this thread, glad I'm getting a s3 over the evo 4g lte!

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why sell it? Its so new you can go back to sprint and ask to return it for the S3? XD
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I used my upgrade for the iPhone 4S is why. Bought the EVO new for $549.95 from Sprint.
Sold the iPhone for $450 on eBay 2 weeks prior to the EVO release. I pre-ordered two. Sold one EVO for $350 and bought the S3 for $360 with an otterbox case of eBay. Couldn't pass that deal.
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