The option to update my phone just popped up on my Arc (with Rogers.)
Any body know if it will keep my root, like the previous update, or will I have to reroot afterwards?
I am aware that there is a forum for QnA, but I imagine that this thread will be a common occurance in the upcomming days, and it may be beneficial to have
one that will hopefully be answered here for a few days while people get their udpate notifications.
I also should have named the thread "2.3.4 OTA Update: Keep root?"...
bunktacular said:
The option to update my phone just popped up on my Arc (with Rogers.)
Any body know if it will keep my root, like the previous update, or will I have to reroot afterwards?
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You had right now 2.3.3??
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Yes, I currently have stock Rogers 2.3.3 rooted, and just got the notification that OTA update is available.
I also have a bunch of bloatware frozen with titanium backup. Should I unfreeze it before updating?
I need to keep root and want to avoid flashing if at all possible, so if OTA doesn't work I'll just live with 2.3.3 until I have the time to deal with flashing.
Last time my contact book was completely messed up by the backup and restore.
bunktacular said:
Yes, I currently have stock Rogers 2.3.3 rooted, and just got the notification that OTA update is available.
I also have a bunch of bloatware frozen with titanium backup. Should I unfreeze it before updating?
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Download latest 2.3.4 and update via flashtool. How about root i dont know. I have bootloader relocked and then root is always.
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So I would need to update with a separate tool?
I'm sorry but your english is a little hard to understand and I want to be sure about this before I do it.
bunktacular said:
So I would need to update with a separate tool?
I'm sorry but your english is a little hard to understand and I want to be sure about this before I do it.
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Flashtool is good. If you uncheck "wipe data" than you data will be keept. When you do OTA(overtheair) update then i dont know about root. Problably you lose it. And i think over wire update is best option.
And via flahtool you keep Root.
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Alright, I'll just be patient and wait for someone who has tried it.
2.3.2 root -> OTA update -> 2.3.3 did not remove root
It would be great if I could keep it that simple again.
Thanks for your help though, I'll do what you suggested if OTA doesn't work.
Look neo forum and ther is thread about updating 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 via flashtool without losing root.
Regards!
Taavi
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taaviu said:
Look neo forum and ther is thread about updating 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 via flashtool without losing root.
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There's enough threads in this section that cover it.
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I don't want to use flashtool though,
I just want to know if I will lose root from an OTA update,
as the last OTA update did not remove it.
You wont lose root if you do an ota update
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I decided to try doing the OTA update, and now I'm suddenly "up-to-date" but I only have 2.3.3.
Did they remove update, or would there be a reason I suddenly can't get the update?
bunktacular said:
I decided to try doing the OTA update, and now I'm suddenly "up-to-date" but I only have 2.3.3.
Did they remove update, or would there be a reason I suddenly can't get the update?
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Because i recommend flashtool for you.....
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bunktacular said:
Alright, I'll just be patient and wait for someone who has tried it.
2.3.2 root -> OTA update -> 2.3.3 did not remove root
It would be great if I could keep it that simple again.
Thanks for your help though, I'll do what you suggested if OTA doesn't work.
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No problem at all with rooted arc to update by OTA... ;-) Just relock your bootloader (otherwise you brick your phone when you use the official OTA :-S)
After you updated, you stil have complete root access..! ;-)
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Awesome, now I just have to figure out why the update has disappeared.
And I don't believe I unlocked bootloader, is there any way to confirm?
My phone has gone 2.3.2 -> 2.3.3 OTA -> flash 2.3.2 -> root -> 2.3.3 OTA
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Hello everyone from XDA, im new to posting here and new to rooting phones and all that. This Xperia PLAY is the R800at model from at&t running 2.3.3, and its also my first Android phone. I love it but i read about people who root their phones and can make their phone do so much more and run faster and all that. I am not a complete newb to tech stuff, for example i can jailbreak a ps3 and an iPhone. But androids are alot tougher, or so they seem to be since there's many different versions of the same phone like the Xperia PLAY, there's like 4 or 5 different ones. Anyway i just want a complete noob guide to rooting this version phone, (if that's even possible). If there's words or terms that you include that have a specific meaning that you don't think a newb would know, please tell me what it means. One more thing, will i need to unlock boot loader??? Btw wtf does that even mean! Lol..... Thank you so much guys for reading and hopefully responding with a good super newbee tutorial!
Edit: I'm sorry if i made anyone mad, like i said i'm new so i probably should have posted this in the Q and A's section.
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What build number do you have? If you've updated to .285 there isn't a way to root yet that we've found. If you are still on .270 the look for zergrush or flashtool to root.
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I just went through the same thing, and like spectre said if you have build .285 (go to settings-about phone- build number) it cant be done. So if your on .270 just search for flashtools, superoneclick, or doomlords rooting kit and then follow there instructions.
I've got 0.270... So i guess thats good. Another thing, if i root, will this prevent me from being able to update to the new ICS update later?
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tbird775 said:
I've got 0.270... So i guess thats good. Another thing, if i root, will this prevent me from being able to update to the new ICS update later?
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Nope you can still update.
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I've seen apps like Gingerbreak and z4 root that are supposed to be able to root your phone. Would this method work if i first unlock the bootloader, because they don't work right now.
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tbird775 said:
I've seen apps like Gingerbreak and z4 root that are supposed to be able to root your phone. Would this method work if i first unlock the bootloader, because they don't work right now.
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Download the latest superoneclick, latest flashtool or zergrush from doomlord. All three of those use the zergrush method to root and will work with .270
ZergRush one-click script works the best, IMO
When do you think there will be a way to root the .285 version?
Don't know. I'm seeing if a dev would work on trying to root it. Hopefully they figure something out.
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The trick is to root the older firmware, and update through OTA so you keep root. It must be OTA, not PC companion or SEUS.
OK... I just bought the same phone, AT&T unlocked 4G, Android version 2.3.3., but it is build # 3.0.1.B.0.285... does this mean that I can't root it? Anything I can do to get it to root? Like flashing something or some other method?
neverwinter said:
OK... I just bought the same phone, AT&T unlocked 4G, Android version 2.3.3., but it is build # 3.0.1.B.0.285... does this mean that I can't root it? Anything I can do to get it to root? Like flashing something or some other method?
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Use flashtool to go to either the earlier AT&T build or a generic build.
Is there a way to backup or dump the firmware I do have? In case I want to restore it?
I posted a ftf file for the .285 build in the general section. Its probably a few pages in. You can use it through flashtool to get back to stock .285
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Thanks a lot... I just rooted my phone now... now I am waiting forever to get the battery application installed.
So since I flashed and rooted my 4g XPlay, will updating it to .285 create any problems? Like not being able to root again or not being able to have root access? And is it better to have .285?
neverwinter said:
So since I flashed and rooted my 4g XPlay, will updating it to .285 create any problems? Like not being able to root again or not being able to have root access? And is it better to have .285?
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You can go to .285 if you update over the air and keep root. Any other way and you will lose root and you can't root .285
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Spectre51 said:
You can go to .285 if you update over the air and keep root. Any other way and you will lose root and you can't root .285
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Sorry, what is over the air? And what is not over the air? You are referring to BT?
neverwinter said:
Sorry, what is over the air? And what is not over the air? You are referring to BT?
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Over the air is when you update from the phone itself using wifi, instead of plugging it into USB.
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Title. 2.3.4. Locked bootloader.
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Root is kept when you update OTA for a GSM play, so I see no reason why it wouldn't be the same for Verizon.
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How to keep it:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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Thank you.
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Sneaky4296 said:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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I didn't use OTA Rootkeeper and did not lose root. However, I have an unlocked bootloader and maybe that makes a difference.
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Sneaky4296 said:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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Did not need OTA rootkeeper to update and keep root either. OTA Rootkeeper even says in the app that it doesn't work on this phone.
Rogue Leader said:
Did not need OTA rootkeeper to update and keep root either. OTA Rootkeeper even says in the app that it doesn't work on this phone.
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Well, it did work on my phone. And for some you can OTA and keep root, but I've also heard of people who lost root on update.
savage24x said:
Title. 2.3.4. Locked bootloader.
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captain67 said:
Root is kept when you update OTA for a GSM play, so I see no reason why it wouldn't be the same for Verizon.
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Sneaky4296 said:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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Sneaky4296 said:
Well, it did work on my phone. And for some you can OTA and keep root, but I've also heard of people who lost root on update.
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Rogue Leader said:
Did not need OTA rootkeeper to update and keep root either. OTA Rootkeeper even says in the app that it doesn't work on this phone.
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I feel like this is a forgotten method of rooting. So here goes....
I wanted to see the 2.3.4 update, so I FTF'd to stock, and didnt instal root. I then OTA'd to 2.3.4. So now I was stock 2.3.4 then...
Just boot into recovery and instal SuperUser.zip !! Viola ! Now your 2.3.4 Rooted and good to go! No extra steps , no extra apps !
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
Edit : but I gotta stop forgetting some people still have locked boot loaders...
Someone flashed me to 4.1.1 and told me not to do the OTA update when I get it and I am unsure his reasoning. I have just received the OTA update and am hesitant to do so cause he told me I shouldn't this is my build.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Na05R2kBtw8/UH99ptd4xVI/AAAAAAAAB_U/WtzCgehyO34/s512/Screenshot_2012-10-17-20-45-36.png
Please let me know if I should accept the OTA or not I am very noob when it comes to this stuff and thanks
Maybe he rooted your phone too, and didn't want the update to break root.
leppo said:
Maybe he rooted your phone too, and didn't want the update to break root.
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Is that the only reason not to accept the OTA, he did root it but that can always be redone. If I accept it I wont loose my data saved on my phone will I? I shouldn't I would think
TechnoDork said:
Is that the only reason not to accept the OTA, he did root it but that can always be redone. If I accept it I wont loose my data saved on my phone will I? I shouldn't I would think
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The update won't install. Its best to just flash a rooted version of said update.
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Which one would I use?
Rem3Dy said:
The update won't install. Its best to just flash a rooted version of said update.
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Root doesn't prevent OTA updates from installing. However, installing the update will unroot the phone unless you use something like CWM which can keep root for you.
RoadHazard said:
Root doesn't prevent OTA updates from installing. However, installing the update will unroot the phone unless you use something like CWM which can keep root for you.
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I tried the OTA but it shows an android with a Red sign in his belly. So basically I want to get my phone back to where I can get updates straight from Google and I don't need my phone rooted. Is this possible? If so I need instructions lol Much appreciated!
So i have ics rooted with the snapdragon program. JB is coming out soon so if I am rooted and I get the update what will happen to my root? If the root will go away what is another option to upgrade to Stock JB and also have root?
There are various threads on this topic. You will lose root if you upgrade. You can always root again afterwards. Our you can use rootkeeper. But I'm not sure if it will work.
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You will need to return phone to stock rom when update is released. Root might not be an issue but bloat will be required.
Don't worry about losing root. As soon as it's released there will be instructions on how to root. Devs rule!
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mymusicathome said:
You will need to return phone to stock rom when update is released. Root might not be an issue but bloat will be required.
Don't worry about losing root. As soon as it's released there will be instructions on how to root. Devs rule!
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I am already on stock and all my bloat is there nothing has been frozen, but otherwise u are saying root will remain? and also if i upgrade with the root can i get the phone bricked and will i loose any of my data?
When update is released back up your data to sdcard, remove card, run update via kies (I assume as this was the way my s2 skyrocket received updates) and then root again. Getting root back will not be an issue. We are still a week or 2 away... until then sit tight
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I keep getting a notification about an ATT update and I was wondering if it will affect my rooted phone. I just have a basic 'stock' odin root, not a custom Rom. The update will not let me disable notifications and will only let me delay the reminders 8 hrs........... I am getting tired of seeing the notifications and dont know what it will do if I update. Any advice is appreciated!!!
Thanks
Chasoscar said:
I keep getting a notification about an ATT update and I was wondering if it will affect my rooted phone. I just have a basic 'stock' odin root, not a custom Rom. The update will not let me disable notifications and will only let me delay the reminders 8 hrs........... I am getting tired of seeing the notifications and dont know what it will do if I update. Any advice is appreciated!!!
Thanks
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Yeah it will remove the root but you can re-root it after the update or use supersu pro to conserve root (though not guaranteed).
Have you modified any system apps or files at all? If not i don't see why you won't, just be sure to run Voodoo OTA Keeper before installing the update and restore it after the update. As this update patches the ExynosAbuse exploit
Download OTA root keeper from the play store.
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Chasoscar said:
I keep getting a notification about an ATT update and I was wondering if it will affect my rooted phone. I just have a basic 'stock' odin root, not a custom Rom. The update will not let me disable notifications and will only let me delay the reminders 8 hrs........... I am getting tired of seeing the notifications and dont know what it will do if I update. Any advice is appreciated!!!
Thanks
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That update (from like 2/18 or something) is a baseband update (to MA4) and didnt mess with root on mine.
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I went ahead and accepted the update and it didnt effect my root, but I did get a notification on the 'pull down' screen that the update was unsuccessful.
ReggieSmith said:
That update (from like 2/18 or something) is a baseband update (to MA4) and didnt mess with root on mine.
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So you are saying that you were on a rooted stock LK2 ROM, and ran the OTA update successfully without losing root? And this was without using RootKeeper OTA or SuperuserSU set to protect root?
Chasoscar said:
I went ahead and accepted the update and it didnt effect my root, but I did get a notification on the 'pull down' screen that the update was unsuccessful.
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Same here. My phone kept rebooting to TWRP also, which may have something to do with it.
ChefJ said:
Same here. My phone kept rebooting to TWRP also, which may have something to do with it.
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Your phone will not correctly install an OTA update if you have a custom recovery. You will need to find it in the development forums, already rooted, and as a flashable ZIP in custom recovery.