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Questions with ota and root

long time evo user, noob at the s3. I rooted my dad's phone because he needed wifi tether, but he is freaked out about accidentally applying an ota and bricking his phone. Can I disable ota checks or restore the stock recovery while keeping root? Thanks!

You can always install OTA RootKeeper and have it back everything up. I used it for the first time last night before updating my wife's S3 and it worked great.

Did you have a stock recovery or can you install the updates over a custom one?

recommended way
Is to just flash the lg8 modem posted in the development section and then suppress the update notification by flashing this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1244277&d=1344225893 or by flashing the legit update and flashing this after to keep root http://shabbypenguin.com/k0/ecm/TeamEpic-Root-from-Recovery-v5.zip. if you didnt modify system you can copy the legit update from cache to sd and flash in cwm

billard412 said:
Is to just flash the lg8 modem posted in the development section and then suppress the update notification by flashing this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1244277&d=1344225893 or by flashing the legit update and flashing this after to keep root http://shabbypenguin.com/k0/ecm/TeamEpic-Root-from-Recovery-v5.zip. if you didnt modify system you can copy the legit update from cache to sd and flash in cwm
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Okay thanks so much! If I did install that ota mod is there a way to receive updates again? What would happen if he accidentally clicked install now and let the phone attempt to install the ota with cwm installed? Would it brick or would it be fine?
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cullenmq1 said:
Okay thanks so much! If I did install that ota mod is there a way to receive updates again? What would happen if he accidentally clicked install now and let the phone attempt to install the ota with cwm installed? Would it brick or would it be fine?
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No you wont brick. And the mod only makes u look up to date so any future update will come thru as normal.
If u hit install with cwm And ur system is unmodified it will probably finish but will get rid of root thats what the root from recovery zip is for. Def no brick tho.

Thanks soo much Okay so if he just accepts an update the phone will automatically update through cwm but will get rid of root? So he has nothing to worry about except losing root if sammy sends out an ota.
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cullenmq1 said:
Thanks soo much Okay so if he just accepts an update the phone will automatically update through cwm but will get rid of root? So he has nothing to worry about except losing root if sammy sends out an ota.
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Ya and thats saying that the update finishes. Worst that will happen is root is gone. If the system was modified or something dont match the checks the update does, the update will fail and nothing will change. But i can assure you, it will not hardbrick u. Ur In samsung country now lol and that has never ever happened with a samsung to my knowledge. Like i said In first post tho definatly recomend coming here for the update (usually a modem) flash it manually, and avoid the ota altogether. But hitting the install button wont hurt you.

I've found this is much easier. Zedomax has a rooted LG8 stock ROM up for download. Just flash, clear cache and you're ready to go. (note that if you have any flashed mods such as a CPU editor or the Google Now on ICS mod you will have to reflash)
http://galaxys3root.com/sprint-galaxy-s3/sprint-galaxy-s3-cwm-zippable-lg8-ota-with-root-stock-rom/

OTA updates with custom recovery?

Can I still receive OTA updates while rooted and custom recovery? I ask because I am not getting the notification people are talking about. I tried unrooting and it still says I'm up to date. I have TWRP recovery. U would like to receive OTAs at least until Jellybean comes out, then I'll go custom. I'm coming from a Samsung Vibrant that I was really used to updating and it seems like some things have changed since then.

HoosierFDaddy said:
Can I still receive OTA updates while rooted and custom recovery? I ask because I am not getting the notification people are talking about. I tried unrooting and it still says I'm up to date. I have TWRP recovery. U would like to receive OTAs at least until Jellybean comes out, then I'll go custom. I'm coming from a Samsung Vibrant that I was really used to updating and it seems like some things have changed since then.
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Do you have custom rom? On custom roms there is no notification about OTA updates.

I just made a guide that might help you for stock rooted roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
It will take you the Kies route to get your update. I also did not receive a notification.

I do not have a custom Rom. I am using the stock, root injected Rom and TWRP. I have the original recovery of I need it and OTA root keeper. I thawed out all of my frozen bloatware apps, so I should be fairly straight, besides root and recovery.
Also curious if I flash Wildchild's deodexed stock OTA update, would I still be able to get notifications or does that classify as "custom"since it's deodexed?

cybrnook said:
I just made a guide that might help you for stock rooted roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
It will take you the Kies route to get your update. I also did not receive a notification.
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I assume your guide method will trip the flash counter and I use Triangle away to resolve that? I used the no trip method to get root the first time, that's why I ask about Wildchild's deodexed version because I have flashable one downloaded already if all is well with future OTAs.

HoosierFDaddy said:
I assume your guide method will trip the flash counter and I use Triangle away to resolve that? I used the no trip method to get root the first time, that's why I ask about Wildchild's deodexed version because I have flashable one downloaded already if all is well with future OTAs.
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Yes, on my guide you will trip the flash counter when you install the custom recovery again in ODIN. But like you said, triangle away and your good.

Where are you located? OTAs are generally sent out in waves, by region i think. Just may not be pushed to your area yet.
And if you are rooted, you can download the updated but it will fail at install.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Where are you located? OTAs are generally sent out in waves, by region i think. Just may not be pushed to your area yet.
And if you are rooted, you can download the updated but it will fail at install.
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I'm on the west coast of the U.S. I'm sure I'm not in the wave yet, but I'm impatient (as it seems like most of us in these forums are) and I'm going to flash the deodexed version... now. Thanks for your quick replies and I'm keeping cybrnook's guide for later reference just in case.

Okay, so I flash that root injected OTA update and new modem with no flash counter trip, but now my device status is modified. Can I get future OTA notifications?

I am rooted with cwm and wicked rom v2. I got the notification and was able to download it however when it rebooted and went into cwm recovery and it says aborted and failed.
So I think if you have a custom recovery you will not be able to do ota updates but might be possible for Kies update never tried Kies so not sure
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As long as you are on a stock based rom and the ota componets are intact, you should get notified if there is an update.
The update will fail though so you have to either get it as a custom rom or update via kies or odin.
Most people say it fails because of root, but I think it can also fail due to either a custom recovery and/or having a deodexed rom. (Not 100% about that last one though)
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DocHoliday77 said:
As long as you are on a stock based rom and the ota componets are intact, you should get notified if there is an update.
The update will fail though so you have to either get it as a custom rom or update via kies or odin.
Most people say it fails because of root, but I think it can also fail due to either a custom recovery and/or having a deodexed rom. (Not 100% about that last one though)
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This +1 (fails due to custom recovery I believe)

[Q] OTA update hesitant

Someone flashed me to 4.1.1 and told me not to do the OTA update when I get it and I am unsure his reasoning. I have just received the OTA update and am hesitant to do so cause he told me I shouldn't this is my build.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Na05R2kBtw8/UH99ptd4xVI/AAAAAAAAB_U/WtzCgehyO34/s512/Screenshot_2012-10-17-20-45-36.png
Please let me know if I should accept the OTA or not I am very noob when it comes to this stuff and thanks

Maybe he rooted your phone too, and didn't want the update to break root.

leppo said:
Maybe he rooted your phone too, and didn't want the update to break root.
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Is that the only reason not to accept the OTA, he did root it but that can always be redone. If I accept it I wont loose my data saved on my phone will I? I shouldn't I would think

TechnoDork said:
Is that the only reason not to accept the OTA, he did root it but that can always be redone. If I accept it I wont loose my data saved on my phone will I? I shouldn't I would think
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The update won't install. Its best to just flash a rooted version of said update.
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Which one would I use?

Rem3Dy said:
The update won't install. Its best to just flash a rooted version of said update.
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Root doesn't prevent OTA updates from installing. However, installing the update will unroot the phone unless you use something like CWM which can keep root for you.

RoadHazard said:
Root doesn't prevent OTA updates from installing. However, installing the update will unroot the phone unless you use something like CWM which can keep root for you.
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I tried the OTA but it shows an android with a Red sign in his belly. So basically I want to get my phone back to where I can get updates straight from Google and I don't need my phone rooted. Is this possible? If so I need instructions lol Much appreciated!

new ota gn2 jan-18

i was wondering whats new on the new ota? I received the notification jan-18 i'm providing the file if anyone wants to play with it. i don't wanna lose my root privileges so i haven't installed it yet
thanks
http://www.mediafire.com/?lhn4s96npsc78fz

Ota was earlier this week. It's the Exynos security fix. uvall4 is the version.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

I had same concerns. I used ota rootkeeper as recommended by others and updated without loosing root.
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Can you guys point me at the right direction to updateand not to lose the root with triggering the counter. This update message every 10 mins its annoying as fk. as I see many posts but talking about the old ota that came out back on dec.
Thanks in advance
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ecuajosh said:
Can you guys point me at the right direction to updateand not to lose the root with triggering the counter. This update message every 10 mins its annoying as fk. as I see many posts but talking about the old ota that came out back on dec.
Thanks in advance
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If you root by means of the ExynosAbuse APK v1.40 your device status will remain "normal". Then if you use OTA RootKeeper then you can do the update and retain root as well as your device status remaining "normal". See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111188

GMAN1722 said:
If you root by means of the ExynosAbuse APK v1.40 your device status will remain "normal". Then if you use OTA RootKeeper then you can do the update and retain root as well as your device status remaining "normal". See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111188
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awesome, thanks a lot

ecuajosh said:
awesome, thanks a lot
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Just want to give you an update on what happened with me:
I'm not sure when it happened but my device status changed from normal to modified (I did the OTA using OTA RootKeeper and device status was normal for about two days). The only thing I did after that was open SuperSU and noticed that it stated that I needed that to update the binary. I just cancelled that and when I checked I noticed that the device status was changed So my question is does anybody have any idea how I can be rooted with the device status reading as normal with the T889UVALL4 update?. Are there any other options for me to be rooted with a device status of normal?
Edit: Funny, I rebooted and the device status reverted back to normal. I even connected to the AllShare dongle to check and all is working.

SPH-D710 FI27 to FL24 (Status 7)

I continuously keep getting notified that there's an update available for my phone, but just now realized that it's actually failing with the below message.
error in /cache/35935f252780.update_SPH-D710_FI27_to_FL24-1.zip (Status 7)
After rebooting the phone, I am greeted with a message that the update was a success, but then a week or two later I'm notified about the exact same update being available which always fails.
I still have full root access so, how exactly do I fix this?

Try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832496

Thanks but uhm that will kill Over The Air updates altogether how does that resolve my issue if I want to be able to update?

Ci2e said:
Thanks but uhm that will kill Over The Air updates altogether how does that resolve my issue if I want to be able to update?
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Are you completely stock, unrooted, stock recovery? If so you may have a bad download and try over WiFi.
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Ci2e said:
I continuously keep getting notified that there's an update available for my phone, but just now realized that it's actually failing with the below message.
error in /cache/35935f252780.update_SPH-D710_FI27_to_FL24-1.zip (Status 7)
After rebooting the phone, I am greeted with a message that the update was a success, but then a week or two later I'm notified about the exact same update being available which always fails.
I still have full root access so, how exactly do I fix this?
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Had same problem. Nuked that file in /cache/ It's all good now.

@BluesRulez: I've been rooted for a long time now. My Wi-Fi stays on so I'm not exactly sure how to trigger the download manually.
@Snegtul: So you just deleted the file and let it redownload, and now it works fine? How exactly do I trigger the update manually?

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Search for black rom there is a zip there that will disable ota notifications
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bigdaddy619 said:
Search for black rom there is a zip there that will disable ota notifications
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I want to be able to update, not kill ota dude!

Ci2e said:
I want to be able to update, not kill ota dude!
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Then go back to stock and take the ota or use the one click to get the update
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Why would I need to go back to stock or use the one click to get the update?
I've been getting notified of the update repeatedly, I've already deleted the update in the cache folder I just need the update to redownload.

Can someone help me out here and explain your answer, I'm not going to brick my phone.

It wont download with your phone rooted. Only way to get rid of it is to do what everyone else has said, If you dont want to do what they suggest you can either deal with the messages or unroot your phone and update it. Sorry if this isnt what you are looking for, but their are no other solutions

fmaz28 said:
It wont download with your phone rooted. Only way to get rid of it is to do what everyone else has said, If you dont want to do what they suggest you can either deal with the messages or unroot your phone and update it. Sorry if this isnt what you are looking for, but their are no other solutions
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I didn't understand that it wouldn't update with the phone being rooted. Now that makes sense. Although it will download it will just error out if your phone is already rooted right?
Then after updating is it possible to reroot the phone again or is this latest update to keep users unrooted to begin with?

So only modification to your phone is root? Deleting sprint apks will not allow you to do an OTA update.
Have you gone into the cache partition using a root file explorer and deleted the update.zip file?
If yes to above 2 answers,
Right after deleting the file, reboot the phone and turn on wifi.
Go to settings, system updates and check for firmware update.
It should show downloading update...
Let it download and then install. Make sure phone is charged.
If this doesn't work, you will have to UNROOT using a FI27 one click that preserves your user data. Once you are unrooted, try OTA update again.
I do have a question, Why do you want OTA update if you are going to be rooted? Installing OTA update will unroot.

As far as I know yes the only change is the phone is rooted and I have gone into the cache folder and deleted the update.zip. I have already rebooted the phone and tried checking for software updates, but I'm always told that I have the latest version, kernel 3.0.15-1127689.
I remember having an OTA update before and it working just fine, it was a long time ago so maybe I'm wrong?
I only want the OTA update to get the latest version. I'd prefer Jelly Bean, but I think that isn't even available for Epic4GTouch or ever will be. So if unrooting to get the update and then being stuck unrooted, and the latest update really doesn't fix/add anything then I may as well just leave it as is.

Ci2e said:
As far as I know yes the only change is the phone is rooted and I have gone into the cache folder and deleted the update.zip. I have already rebooted the phone and tried checking for software updates, but I'm always told that I have the latest version, kernel 3.0.15-1127689.
I remember having an OTA update before and it working just fine, it was a long time ago so maybe I'm wrong?
I only want the OTA update to get the latest version. I'd prefer Jelly Bean, but I think that isn't even available for Epic4GTouch or ever will be. So if unrooting to get the update and then being stuck unrooted, and the latest update really doesn't fix/add anything then I may as well just leave it as is.
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So if you want to be rooted, stay on FI27. All FL24 has is a bug fix. There is no jb ota update.
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can't update to FL24
Hi,
My phone can't seem to update to FL24. Can anyone offer suggestions on what else to try? Details below. Thanks!
When I try to update, I get this message...
assert failed: apply_patch_check ("/system/lib/libbcc.so", "fb37ab28e20c960e4b94fb45778aff0c36c5c9b4", "1b6e79161909f3eb52200a978e7274831b5b7162")
E:Error in /cache/35935f252780.update_SPH-D710_FI27_to_FL24.zip
(Status 7)​
I've tried
Settings -> Applications - > All -> Google Services Framework -> Clear Data
Wait
Settings -> System Updates -> Update Samsung Software​as suggested on Android Central
and I've tried wiping the cache.
My phone is completely stock (as far as i know!)
Here's some specs that might be useful to someone who knows what they mean:
Model Number
SPH-D710
Android Version
4.0.4
Baseband Version
S710.10 S.FI27
Kernel Version
3.0.15-1127689
[email protected] #3
SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 27 18:24:35 KST
2012
Build Number
IMM76I.FI27
Hardware Version
D710.10

If your phone is completely stock then you need a custom recovery to flash a ROM
Edit: nvm I just read more closely, you might just be getting a bad download..try it on wifi. But if you wamt to root you would need/want a custom recov.
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