Keep root through OTA update R800x? - Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Title. 2.3.4. Locked bootloader.
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Root is kept when you update OTA for a GSM play, so I see no reason why it wouldn't be the same for Verizon.
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How to keep it:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)

Sneaky4296 said:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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Thank you.
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Sneaky4296 said:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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I didn't use OTA Rootkeeper and did not lose root. However, I have an unlocked bootloader and maybe that makes a difference.
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Sneaky4296 said:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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Did not need OTA rootkeeper to update and keep root either. OTA Rootkeeper even says in the app that it doesn't work on this phone.

Rogue Leader said:
Did not need OTA rootkeeper to update and keep root either. OTA Rootkeeper even says in the app that it doesn't work on this phone.
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Well, it did work on my phone. And for some you can OTA and keep root, but I've also heard of people who lost root on update.

savage24x said:
Title. 2.3.4. Locked bootloader.
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captain67 said:
Root is kept when you update OTA for a GSM play, so I see no reason why it wouldn't be the same for Verizon.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
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Sneaky4296 said:
What you need to do is get the app "Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper" and use it to back up your root. After you back up your root do "Temp un-root" and then remove superuser. Afterwards, you can OTA update and download superuser again. Then go back to Voodoo and you can restore your root without problem
(I did this as well on my R800x to keep my root)
(Also, you would lose root by updating normally)
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Sneaky4296 said:
Well, it did work on my phone. And for some you can OTA and keep root, but I've also heard of people who lost root on update.
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Rogue Leader said:
Did not need OTA rootkeeper to update and keep root either. OTA Rootkeeper even says in the app that it doesn't work on this phone.
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I feel like this is a forgotten method of rooting. So here goes....
I wanted to see the 2.3.4 update, so I FTF'd to stock, and didnt instal root. I then OTA'd to 2.3.4. So now I was stock 2.3.4 then...
Just boot into recovery and instal SuperUser.zip !! Viola ! Now your 2.3.4 Rooted and good to go! No extra steps , no extra apps !
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
Edit : but I gotta stop forgetting some people still have locked boot loaders...

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[Q] 2.3.4 update: keep root?

The option to update my phone just popped up on my Arc (with Rogers.)
Any body know if it will keep my root, like the previous update, or will I have to reroot afterwards?
I am aware that there is a forum for QnA, but I imagine that this thread will be a common occurance in the upcomming days, and it may be beneficial to have
one that will hopefully be answered here for a few days while people get their udpate notifications.
I also should have named the thread "2.3.4 OTA Update: Keep root?"...
bunktacular said:
The option to update my phone just popped up on my Arc (with Rogers.)
Any body know if it will keep my root, like the previous update, or will I have to reroot afterwards?
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You had right now 2.3.3??
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Yes, I currently have stock Rogers 2.3.3 rooted, and just got the notification that OTA update is available.
I also have a bunch of bloatware frozen with titanium backup. Should I unfreeze it before updating?
I need to keep root and want to avoid flashing if at all possible, so if OTA doesn't work I'll just live with 2.3.3 until I have the time to deal with flashing.
Last time my contact book was completely messed up by the backup and restore.
bunktacular said:
Yes, I currently have stock Rogers 2.3.3 rooted, and just got the notification that OTA update is available.
I also have a bunch of bloatware frozen with titanium backup. Should I unfreeze it before updating?
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Download latest 2.3.4 and update via flashtool. How about root i dont know. I have bootloader relocked and then root is always.
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So I would need to update with a separate tool?
I'm sorry but your english is a little hard to understand and I want to be sure about this before I do it.
bunktacular said:
So I would need to update with a separate tool?
I'm sorry but your english is a little hard to understand and I want to be sure about this before I do it.
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Flashtool is good. If you uncheck "wipe data" than you data will be keept. When you do OTA(overtheair) update then i dont know about root. Problably you lose it. And i think over wire update is best option.
And via flahtool you keep Root.
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Alright, I'll just be patient and wait for someone who has tried it.
2.3.2 root -> OTA update -> 2.3.3 did not remove root
It would be great if I could keep it that simple again.
Thanks for your help though, I'll do what you suggested if OTA doesn't work.
Look neo forum and ther is thread about updating 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 via flashtool without losing root.
Regards!
Taavi
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taaviu said:
Look neo forum and ther is thread about updating 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 via flashtool without losing root.
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There's enough threads in this section that cover it.
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I don't want to use flashtool though,
I just want to know if I will lose root from an OTA update,
as the last OTA update did not remove it.
You wont lose root if you do an ota update
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I decided to try doing the OTA update, and now I'm suddenly "up-to-date" but I only have 2.3.3.
Did they remove update, or would there be a reason I suddenly can't get the update?
bunktacular said:
I decided to try doing the OTA update, and now I'm suddenly "up-to-date" but I only have 2.3.3.
Did they remove update, or would there be a reason I suddenly can't get the update?
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Because i recommend flashtool for you.....
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bunktacular said:
Alright, I'll just be patient and wait for someone who has tried it.
2.3.2 root -> OTA update -> 2.3.3 did not remove root
It would be great if I could keep it that simple again.
Thanks for your help though, I'll do what you suggested if OTA doesn't work.
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No problem at all with rooted arc to update by OTA... ;-) Just relock your bootloader (otherwise you brick your phone when you use the official OTA :-S)
After you updated, you stil have complete root access..! ;-)
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Awesome, now I just have to figure out why the update has disappeared.
And I don't believe I unlocked bootloader, is there any way to confirm?
My phone has gone 2.3.2 -> 2.3.3 OTA -> flash 2.3.2 -> root -> 2.3.3 OTA

"No Tripping Flash Counter" root isn't rooted

I installed the rooted ROM at [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPALEN] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774722), although I stopped before installing CWM.
It appears I don't have root. I even try to let Superuser update itself from a 3.0.x version to 3.1.1. I am never prompted to grant root access, and it eventually says "Superuser has been denied Superuser permissions".
If Superuser itself cannot get root, then how can this be called a rooted ROM?
P.S., I would have posted in the thread, but I am apparently too much of a n00b per the forum settings.
I know this doesn't help you, but Superuser worked fine for me after using the same method. All I can suggest is to try flashing it again.
Edit: make sure you don't have both Superuser and SuperSU installed. They can conflict with each other.
novasource said:
I installed the rooted ROM at [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPALEN] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774722), although I stopped before installing CWM.
It appears I don't have root. I even try to let Superuser update itself from a 3.0.x version to 3.1.1. I am never prompted to grant root access, and it eventually says "Superuser has been denied Superuser permissions".
If Superuser itself cannot get root, then how can this be called a rooted ROM?
P.S., I would have posted in the thread, but I am apparently too much of a n00b per the forum settings.
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You need cwm.. Flash It and you will profit....
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EndlessDissent said:
I know this doesn't help you, but Superuser worked fine for me after using the same method. All I can suggest is to try flashing it again.
Edit: make sure you don't have both Superuser and SuperSU installed. They can conflict with each other.
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Thank you!
I only have Superuser installed. It's what came with the ROM. I haven't installed anything else since doing the ROM.
I already flashed twice, got the same results each time.
However, after the flash but before it started installing updates, I ran Superuser, clicked Info, and the entire line above tap to check for updates was green. However, after allowing the first update to install, the line had the left side red:
-rwxr-xr-x root shell /system/xbin/su
It was the same after the third update. I wonder if something about those two updates is disabling root?
Naddict said:
You need cwm.. Flash It and you will profit....
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Are you sure CWM is needed to get root? My understanding is you must have root before installing CWM?
novasource said:
Are you sure CWM is needed to get root? My understanding is you must have root before installing CWM?
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Track down the team epic site that walks you through... You should be able to do those steps successfully... Here found link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743780
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Naddict said:
Track down the team epic site that walks you through... You should be able to do those steps successfully... Here found link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1743780
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Thanks. Just to make sure, are you saying that the original instructions (in the thread linked at top) are wrong to suggest you have a rooted ROM if you haven't installed CWM?
Also, that would mean http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...ot-l710vpalen-stock-rom-flash-counter-103351/ is incorrect.
novasource said:
Thanks. Just to make sure, are you saying that the original instructions (in the thread linked at top) are wrong to suggest you have a rooted ROM if you haven't installed CWM?
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CWM is used to install root and rooted roms. I have root for my wifes phone but I do not have CWM and all works fine. She actually would never use recovery but I do know how to flash one on there if necessary.
I am quite sure the tutorial is not incorrect and just a misunderstanding somewhere
playya said:
CWM is used to install root and rooted roms. I have root for my wifes phone but I do not have CWM and all works fine. She actually would never use recovery but I do know how to flash one on there if necessary.
I am quite sure the tutorial is not incorrect and just a misunderstanding somewhere
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I'm scratching my head because there's not much to misunderstand here. The instructions are simple; either you've installed the ROM or you haven't. Since Superuser appeared for the first time after installing the ROM, and the phone prompted me to install two updates after installing, that tells me that the ROM installed correctly.
Wonderful. Just followed the instructions for installing CWM that were linked from http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...ot-l710vpalen-stock-rom-flash-counter-103351/. Not only did that not give me a working copy of CWM, that also made CUSTOM BINARY DOWNLOAD report Yes (1 counts).
novasource said:
Thank you!
I only have Superuser installed. It's what came with the ROM. I haven't installed anything else since doing the ROM.
I already flashed twice, got the same results each time.
However, after the flash but before it started installing updates, I ran Superuser, clicked Info, and the entire line above tap to check for updates was green. However, after allowing the first update to install, the line had the left side red:
-rwxr-xr-x root shell /system/xbin/su
It was the same after the third update. I wonder if something about those two updates is disabling root?
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I see what your problem is. You're taking the OTA updates. Those erase /system/bin/su and unroot you. Before you take either OTA, install Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper from the Play Store, and back up your root. Then take both updates, reopen, Rootkeeper, and restore root.
No CWM needed.
EndlessDissent said:
I see what your problem is. You're taking the OTA updates. Those erase /system/bin/su and unroot you. Before you take either OTA, install Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper from the Play Store, and back up your root. Then take both updates, reopen, Rootkeeper, and restore root.
No CWM needed.
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Good catch... Hard as hell to get knee deep into troubleshooting while driving
OP... If that. Doesn't work... http://www.epiccm.org/2012/06/cwm-recovery-on-all-sgs3-lte-variants.html?m=1
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EndlessDissent said:
I see what your problem is. You're taking the OTA updates. Those erase /system/bin/su and unroot you. Before you take either OTA, install Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper from the Play Store, and back up your root. Then take both updates, reopen, Rootkeeper, and restore root.
No CWM needed.
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YOU ARE CORRECT! I'll add that to the comments of http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...ot-l710vpalen-stock-rom-flash-counter-103351/. Thank you for the help.
EDIT: Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper doesn't work. More details later.
Bad news: While it is correct that the OTA updates are killing my root, Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper won't work. Even with it installed,
When you start the app, it says it is "useless" for "Samsung phones updated via KIES or Odin...".
Will check on alternatives.
novasource said:
Bad news: While it is correct that the OTA updates are killing my root, Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper won't work. Even with it installed,
When you start the app, it says it is "useless" for "Samsung phones updated via KIES or Odin...".
Will check on alternatives.
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http://www.epiccm.org/2012/06/cwm-recovery-on-all-sgs3-lte-variants.html?m=1
Have you tried this?
Naddict said:
http://www.epiccm.org/2012/06/cwm-recovery-on-all-sgs3-lte-variants.html?m=1
Have you tried this?
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I tried once using the instructions at .http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-sph-l710-sprint-clockworkmod-recovery-99305/. Not only did it not install, it incremented my binary counter. Fortunately I was able to use Triangle Away to reset that.
I'm still not clear how CWM will help me. This is supposed to be a rooted ROM already. Not sure why I would need CWM.
novasource said:
I tried once using the instructions at .http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-sph-l710-sprint-clockworkmod-recovery-99305/. Not only did it not install, it incremented my binary counter. Fortunately I was able to use Triangle Away to reset that.
I'm still not clear how CWM will help me. This is supposed to be a rooted ROM already. Not sure why I would need CWM.
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It is a combo deal...It is not a ROM though...Try it...you may like it
this? http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7011CD883D5201B8&feature=view_all
Naddict said:
It is a combo deal...It is not a ROM though...Try it...you may like it
this? http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7011CD883D5201B8&feature=view_all
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OK, I tried it, and it appears to work. I had to use Triangle Away to get rid of the binary counter increment.
It's important to note that I only got this to work by not using the "No Tripping Flash Counter" ROM.
novasource said:
OK, I tried it, and it appears to work. I had to use Triangle Away to get rid of the binary counter increment.
It's important to note that I only got this to work by not using the "No Tripping Flash Counter" ROM.
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Good?!?
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Naddict said:
Good?!?
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Yes!

[Q] OTA update hesitant

Someone flashed me to 4.1.1 and told me not to do the OTA update when I get it and I am unsure his reasoning. I have just received the OTA update and am hesitant to do so cause he told me I shouldn't this is my build.
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Na05R2kBtw8/UH99ptd4xVI/AAAAAAAAB_U/WtzCgehyO34/s512/Screenshot_2012-10-17-20-45-36.png
Please let me know if I should accept the OTA or not I am very noob when it comes to this stuff and thanks
Maybe he rooted your phone too, and didn't want the update to break root.
leppo said:
Maybe he rooted your phone too, and didn't want the update to break root.
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Is that the only reason not to accept the OTA, he did root it but that can always be redone. If I accept it I wont loose my data saved on my phone will I? I shouldn't I would think
TechnoDork said:
Is that the only reason not to accept the OTA, he did root it but that can always be redone. If I accept it I wont loose my data saved on my phone will I? I shouldn't I would think
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The update won't install. Its best to just flash a rooted version of said update.
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Which one would I use?
Rem3Dy said:
The update won't install. Its best to just flash a rooted version of said update.
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Root doesn't prevent OTA updates from installing. However, installing the update will unroot the phone unless you use something like CWM which can keep root for you.
RoadHazard said:
Root doesn't prevent OTA updates from installing. However, installing the update will unroot the phone unless you use something like CWM which can keep root for you.
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I tried the OTA but it shows an android with a Red sign in his belly. So basically I want to get my phone back to where I can get updates straight from Google and I don't need my phone rooted. Is this possible? If so I need instructions lol Much appreciated!

[Q] ATT software update with rooted phone

I keep getting a notification about an ATT update and I was wondering if it will affect my rooted phone. I just have a basic 'stock' odin root, not a custom Rom. The update will not let me disable notifications and will only let me delay the reminders 8 hrs........... I am getting tired of seeing the notifications and dont know what it will do if I update. Any advice is appreciated!!!
Thanks
Chasoscar said:
I keep getting a notification about an ATT update and I was wondering if it will affect my rooted phone. I just have a basic 'stock' odin root, not a custom Rom. The update will not let me disable notifications and will only let me delay the reminders 8 hrs........... I am getting tired of seeing the notifications and dont know what it will do if I update. Any advice is appreciated!!!
Thanks
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Yeah it will remove the root but you can re-root it after the update or use supersu pro to conserve root (though not guaranteed).
Have you modified any system apps or files at all? If not i don't see why you won't, just be sure to run Voodoo OTA Keeper before installing the update and restore it after the update. As this update patches the ExynosAbuse exploit
Download OTA root keeper from the play store.
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Chasoscar said:
I keep getting a notification about an ATT update and I was wondering if it will affect my rooted phone. I just have a basic 'stock' odin root, not a custom Rom. The update will not let me disable notifications and will only let me delay the reminders 8 hrs........... I am getting tired of seeing the notifications and dont know what it will do if I update. Any advice is appreciated!!!
Thanks
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That update (from like 2/18 or something) is a baseband update (to MA4) and didnt mess with root on mine.
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I went ahead and accepted the update and it didnt effect my root, but I did get a notification on the 'pull down' screen that the update was unsuccessful.
ReggieSmith said:
That update (from like 2/18 or something) is a baseband update (to MA4) and didnt mess with root on mine.
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So you are saying that you were on a rooted stock LK2 ROM, and ran the OTA update successfully without losing root? And this was without using RootKeeper OTA or SuperuserSU set to protect root?
Chasoscar said:
I went ahead and accepted the update and it didnt effect my root, but I did get a notification on the 'pull down' screen that the update was unsuccessful.
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Same here. My phone kept rebooting to TWRP also, which may have something to do with it.
ChefJ said:
Same here. My phone kept rebooting to TWRP also, which may have something to do with it.
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Your phone will not correctly install an OTA update if you have a custom recovery. You will need to find it in the development forums, already rooted, and as a flashable ZIP in custom recovery.

Unroot - T999_UVUEMJC

Gurus,
I recently upgraded my Firmware with root66's pre-rooted version of T999_UVUEMJC and the device is working correctly. I am planning to use ISIS NFC feature to take advantage of their Mobile payments and i am getting a message that my device was rooted and ISIS doesn't work.
Is there a work around for ISIS to work on a rooted device. if not can i install Official STOCK firmware and unroot my device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949687
Any suggestion on how to do this and the procedure please.
Please Install the all OTA Rootkeeper from Play Store. That app allows you to take a backup and temporarily unroot your device. Once that's done, you can use ISIS. You can restore Root after you are done.
Perseus71 said:
Please Install the all OTA Rootkeeper from Play Store. That app allows you to take a backup and temporarily unroot your device. Once that's done, you can use ISIS. You can restore Root after you are done.
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Thanks for your quick response.
The App says "OTA RootKeeper -no 4.3 support", Since T999_UVUEMJC is 4.3 I cannot use OTA App.
Check if your superuser app supports temp unroot, you can restore root after you don't need isis anymore..
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serio22 said:
Check if your superuser app supports temp unroot, you can restore root after you don't need isis anymore..
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That worked, thanks. i have SuperSU and it has the option to unroot an uninstall the Apps.

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