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So what kind of Numbers in Quandrant are people getting on CM6 RC1?
SetCPU ~ 600MHz
- JIT Compiler OFF: 406
- JIT Compiler ON: 475
im getting horrible numbers in cm6
but on a stock rom with custom kernel triple my scores on cm6
I am using Eugenes CM6 Rom and getting 867 on Quadrant.. what the heck is wrong with your phones? No SetCPU here.
I am running eugenes parting shot cm6 with dumfuqs kernel and setcpu at 768 and getting 9.1 on linpack and 1087 on quandrant!! The thing flies
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Don't remember the exact number but it was 1000+. It was under Droid X in the results. Using Eugene's latest with the newest kernel.
ill try eugs and see whats diff. im using Genuine CM6...
sounds like microsoft.
I'm running:
Kernel - 2.6.29.6-cyanogenmod
08/18 Nightly build - Build FRF91
How on earth are you guys posting those Quadrant Numbers?! Am I mistaken, or is the kernel not part of the ROM when I flash it? What's Eug's CM6 kernel all about? He has his own modded CM6?
brixvibe said:
I'm running:
Kernel - 2.6.29.6-cyanogenmod
08/18 Nightly build - Build FRF91
How on earth are you guys posting those Quadrant Numbers?! Am I mistaken, or is the kernel not part of the ROM when I flash it? What's Eug's CM6 kernel all about? He has his own modded CM6?
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nevermind ... if I just do a little searching I'd know huh? lol Found it! Flashing now... will post new results shortly!!!
SCHWEET! I'm getting 884 now on Eug's CM6 ROM!!!!!!
That's rivaling what the stock 1st Gen 2.2 Droid's are running, my buddy has one who just got is OTA the other day, and posted right up next to the samsung galaxy s
razr315 said:
If you guys read through the CM6 RC1 thread it explains why quadrant scores have decreased.
Damn good reason IMHO.
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Why would someone want to read? It seems alot easier to just make a useless thread on something and clog up the development forum with crap like this. Check out my quadrant score (j\k)
razr315 said:
If you guys read through the CM6 RC1 thread it explains why quadrant scores have decreased.
Damn good reason IMHO.
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ah... StageFright is disabled. interesting. I'll keep Eugene's CM6 with it enabled for now. I'll wait until all the OpenCore issues are resolved.
TrueBlue_Drew said:
Why would someone want to read? It seems alot easier to just make a useless thread on something and clog up the development forum with crap like this. Check out my quadrant score (j\k)
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Well when I look at the main CM6 RC1 thread, my main purpose is to simply gather the ROM update info, not read several pages into it, and sift out all the people posting about their flashing problems. Had this info just been a simple note at the start of the thread, then maybe I wouldn't have asked this question. It was more of a POLL just to see what kind of numbers people were getting... it wasn't a "Why is my Quadrant score low?" thread. I wasn't even aware they were low until someone later posted a higher number.
brixvibe said:
SCHWEET! I'm getting 884 now on Eug's CM6 ROM!!!!!!
That's rivaling what the stock 1st Gen 2.2 Droid's are running, my buddy has one who just got is OTA the other day...
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If you think about this...kinda sad; Simply upon stock to stock comparison PLUS 2.2, our slides BETTER be rivaling 1st. gen Droids. MTS have more ram and a slightly faster stock processing speed (notice I didn't say faster stock "processor")
Cyanogen commented in the CM6 thread that it was because of a line in the build.prop that Quadrant scores were lower than before.
I know this is kind of unrelated but i got 432 on the ota, which is about the same as droid.
Is there a way to uncap the fps on the latest fresh rom. So far fresh is my favorite rom but the one thing that I'm missing about being on cm6 is the fps fix. So is there a fix?
I'm willing to switch the kernel if I have to as long as it's not going to cause any problems or anything.
Switch Kernal
Same here, once I switched to this kernal I couldn't live without my extra fps. I'm now using netarchy's kernal and it works fine without a problem.
mrusheen said:
Same here, once I switched to this kernal I couldn't live without my extra fps. I'm now using netarchy's kernal and it works fine without a problem.
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Cool I was kinda wondering what kernal would work with this. I see alot of the CM6 guys using snap but I didn't know if that would work with mine.
How is netarchy with battery life compared to 3.2 kernel?
I flashed this onto my phone but my evo now is at 31.7fps using neocore on fresh 3.2. When I was on Cm6 I was getting around 47 so why is it that I've only uncapped my fps by 1 point?
guitarjockey said:
I flashed this onto my phone but my evo now is at 31.7fps using neocore on fresh 3.2. When I was on Cm6 I was getting around 47 so why is it that I've only uncapped my fps by 1 point?
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It's not that it uncapped it by only one point, it's just that CM6 is quite a bit faster since it doesn't have Sense and the rest of the HTC stuff running in the background. Run an fps2d test and you should be getting around 55.
Don't quote me on this, but since the FPS fix is done in the Kernel flipz is not going to be doing this. His ROM's use the Stock Kernels it kind of sounds like he is not going to mess with them.
I believe I seen him say this or deny this on his personal webpage forums.
you are right flipz isnt currently doing this fix int he kernel since it is pretty much the stock kernel. You have 2 options KingxKernel and NetArchy kernel. I cant tll you for sure how battery life compares to 3.2 fresh but I have read both work with it. Both will give you unlocked FPS.
Snap kernel will not work with Fresh as Snap is for CM only currently.
all 3 to my knowledge (may have changed over the last fw days) are based on the foryo build not the new OTA that fresh is using. I would expect to see new updates coming in the near future to change this up (whenever HTC releases or source is leaked at least)
You start mixing and matching and you'll possibly run into issues.
3.2 has an UNRELEASED kernel from HTC.
Netarchy and the others with the FPS fix are using an OLDER kernel.
Do you want the new, or the old with the FPS fix?
As stated in all the other threads several times... When this UNRELEASED update from HTC goes PUBLIC and when the source code is available, then you will get FPS fix in it.
If you choose to use a rom with an unreleased kernel then put on an old kernel and run into issues, hope you keep your backups up to date.
I'm actually using Netarchy's newest CFS kernel with Fresh 3.2 and I haven't had a single problem. Battery life was the same as before, but I'm getting 55fps with a stdev of 2.3 in fps2d.
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I'm actually using Netarchy's newest CFS kernel with Fresh 3.2 and I haven't had a single problem. Battery life was the same as before, but I'm getting 55fps with a stdev of 2.3 in fps2d.
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That's why I said possibly. Nobody has looked into the source code which doesn't seem to be available yet to really know all of what's changed. You may NOT run into issues, or you may hit just the right combination to cause issues. Nobody knows yet.
I, personally, need my phone on a day to day basis for business purposes and only "play" with it after hours. I take the slower, wait and see approach to see what's stable and fully working before I change things around.
I just hope this unreleased patch doesn't turn into the accidental PRE release of 2.2 where folks were in such a rush to have the latest that they ended up with a stale version and had to update again.
Have you guys checked the Fresh Updater, in it he has kernel choices... I was running kingz BFS#8 and it was lovely....you lose nothing and gain everything
Tired that 2 days ago.. #8 I had such bad fps. Encore of 18 and quadrant I have never seen such low numbers.. but not every phone is the same..
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I'm using kingz #8 as well with Fresh 3.2 and have FPS of 54-55 and quadrant scores of around 1600 (overclocked to 1.15)
I need my battery to last a full day with medium use. What is the best ROM/Kernel combination I should use?
i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel.
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I use Fresh 3.2 w/ netarch's Kernel w/ full 60fps unlock. I used my phone all day and still had 30% by 9pm starting 11am. Facetubing, gtalk, voice calls, internet, rss, time checking.
I've flashed a kernel before, but never knew if I was underclocked/overclocked. I flashed King 7 or whatever.
ms79723 said:
i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
Could I use the BSK #6 with Fresh?
Ok I went to the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
And the link for Kernel 6 is not there, only 1-5
Dude, it might be the booze talking, but you got this thread on lock down. I couldn't have said it better than myself, what other dev has both a sick ROM and a sick Kernel like its nothing? I am still surprised dudes leaked his stuff because he gave all that stuff up no questions. And that is saying a lot because other dev's have better rom's with stock kernels. but the combo's and choices hero comes out with is what makes android android
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Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
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You can underclock the kernel included in Fresh. And I do not see a point in OCing for 12%. The 1Ghz is plenty.
ms79723 said:
i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
I downloaded Backed snacks, but there is no link for the kernel #6
Where do you download the Kernel #6 I can only download up to 5 as well.
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Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
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Umm sorry my cm6 battery life is great I get avg 22-25 hours per charge with medium use far more than I have gotten with any sense rom besides baked snacks. Om testing the new flipz rom for a few days since i hear great things about the kernal
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In my opinion:
If you do not need 4G, CyanogenMod v6 with Snap kernel v7.5 would be your best bet.
If you do need or want 4G, Fresh EVO v3.2.0.0 would be your best bet.
Of all the sense roms i've tried, baked snacked seemed to have the best battery life of them all even beating out fresh 3.2 imo
Can someone point me into the direction to where I can flash something that will make SetCPu work with Fresh?
imwillzillla said:
Can someone point me into the direction to where I can flash something that will make SetCPu work with Fresh?
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Setcpu works just fine with fresh im running it now
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So Baked Snack Roms Nd Kernals Are the best battery life? I switched from his baked snacks 1.2.15 because it was missing vital features but how's the battery life on his latest 1.7 updated version is anyone using that rom nd kernal?
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Leave your wifi on all day connected to wherever you are. It's the 3g data that uses much of the power. I keep my work and my job's wifi remembered and get 20 hrs on a charge with medium/heavy use on stock 2.2. If no access to wifi most of the day, this won't help you.
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Sporkman said:
Setcpu works just fine with fresh im running it now
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Oh okay because I thought that the phone couldn't go further than 30 fps. Thanks i'm downloading it now.
imwillzillla said:
Oh okay because I thought that the phone couldn't go further than 30 fps. Thanks i'm downloading it now.
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The 30 FPS limit and SetCPU are two different things. SetCPU will allow you to overclock/underclock your phone's CPU. The 30 FPS limit is a video limitation and will need a kernel to remove.
I'm currently running Baked Snack 1.7 and I believe his stock kernel. I get about 14-15 hours with medium/heavy use.
Will be checking out kernel #6 later today.
now keep in mind i am the noobest of noobs in modifying phones. i have an Epic 4g and haven't even touched the surface on it's potential apparently from reading through this forum.
my question is (before i start doing anything else to my phone) what exactly does a custom kernel do for your phone?
also what exactly does a custom rom do for your phone?
I am currently running a rooted Epic 4g w/cwm and i am on the DK28 build.
what else does everyone reccomend for me to get the full experience from my phone? (in the way of a custom kernel and custom rom, since i am pretty affluent to most apps at the moment)
Well a custom rom is usually optimized for speed and responsivenes. All roms are different since devs usually put there own mods and thems in. Some are completely stock temed others are themed fully. Depends on what your tastes are. As for kernals they're usually overclocked and undervolted which means it'll be overclocked to 1.2 or 1.3 ghz and run at the same power level as 1ghz or less. Usually gives faster phone with beter response and overall speed. (Opens apps quicker) hope this gives a little insight. I'm personally running epic experience 2.0.07 and genocide kernal overclocked to 1.2 ghz.(not undervolted at 1.2 ghz only at 1ghz so battery suffers a bit). Waiting for next epic experience release.
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that does help tremendously! i had most of it figured out but i wanted to be sure as to what they meant. i appreciate the help and i will be trying the rom and kernel you suggested!
No problem man.
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I'm on ACS SFR 1.2 as of right now. I have the Genocided 1.1 Kernel right now...what other Kernels work pretty well on EXT4...
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JuiceTheKidd said:
I'm on ACS SFR 1.2 as of right now. I have the Genocided 1.1 Kernel right now...what other Kernels work pretty well on EXT4...
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I've actually opted to stick with Genocide 1.0. Nothing really changed with 1.1 that I want, and the battery life with 1.0 is astounding. Vision Kernel is also a good one.
JuiceTheKidd said:
I'm on ACS SFR 1.2 as of right now. I have the Genocided 1.1 Kernel right now...what other Kernels work pretty well on EXT4...
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Have you tried the Twilight kernel that comes with SFR 1.1.1?? I ran into problems with genocide for some reason, but the Twilight kernel has been flawless for me FWIW. I am currently on the SFR 1.2 using that same kernel.
I haven't tried the Twilight Kernel although I keep seeing post about it on different forum threads...is there a link for the dev's post?
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RandomKing said:
I've actually opted to stick with Genocide 1.0. Nothing really changed with 1.1 that I want, and the battery life with 1.0 is astounding. Vision Kernel is also a good one.
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I'm actually back on 1.0 as well. I was having audio issues with 1.1 Like you said there really isn't a whole lot new. I'm happy with the way it is. However I'm really looking forward to Vision 1.3 I can't run the other ones with this phone because the 1400mhz is pre-undervolted and Genocide is the only one that lets me custom UV 1400 at this time. It can handle UV's all frequencies 1ghz and below but nothing above.
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I haven't tried the Twilight Kernel although I keep seeing post about it on different forum threads...is there a link for the dev's post?
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Twilight 1.1.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976197
Genocide 1.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961614
adamdelozier said:
Have you tried the Twilight kernel that comes with SFR 1.1.1?? I ran into problems with genocide for some reason, but the Twilight kernel has been flawless for me FWIW. I am currently on the SFR 1.2 using that same kernel.
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I'm running SRF 1.2 and I am having great success with the ACS Twilight Zone kernel. Took my phone off the charger this morning at 10:30, made a call, went to work, made more calls and sent texts, played a game for a while, came home, and now it's 7:30pm and the phone still has 74% battery life with. I did calibrate my battery (Look it up, there's a guide here) last night so that may be a part of it.
I find Genocide 2.0 to be the best possible kernel to use, especially on SFR. It's very snappy and the only kernel I know of that allows dual booting