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KiNgxKernel or Netarchy kernel?

Which one do you like better? I'm not necessarily looking for best over clock speed, but actually better battery life. Any ideas?

I prefer kings kernels.. I haven't had good results on nets kernels lately.. cpu stayed at 100% a lot for me..
Kings scales just fine for me and provides great battery life.. I use his bfs #4 kernel.
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I've used nearly every one of netarchy's kernels, but am now using King's. My battery life is awesome on BFS #4, and everything is very smooth.

I actually prefer hero's baked snack kernel 1. It also has HAVS like king's kernel. Standby time battery life is about the same between king's and hero's, but for me hero's battery life is better when actively using the phone.
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Stupid question, but what is the difference between BFS and CFS kernels?
I guess a better question is BFS #4 or CFS #7?

bigupurself7 said:
Stupid question, but what is the difference between BFS and CFS kernels?
I guess a better question is BFS #4 or CFS #7?
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exactly my thoughts.. which is better?

WutTheHeezy said:
exactly my thoughts.. which is better?
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Google is your friend. But basically, BFS is supposed to be faster, while a little less stable, while CFS is supposed to be a little more stable (its older), but the trade off is the speed. I personally dont see much of a speed difference, but I still usually use BFS.

netarchy. Never had any problems with his kernels. Haven't tried King's yet, but the way I look at is, if it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Kings
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running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.

I'm sure KingxKlick is a great guy and knows what he's doing, but I avoid his kernel because he doesn't actually own an Evo. I stick with netarchy because he's someone I trust.

Last-Chance said:
running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
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Unistall voicemail from Titanium backup. Then go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7749762&postcount=44 That is the updated Apk for the voicemail. Hope that helps man. And for me I use Kingz and love it. Been getting some very good battery life out of it. And its smooth even when running @ 1.17 oc.

Last-Chance said:
running net's kernel atm, but most likely going to switch. 4g doesn't seem to work for me, and it keeps saying there is a voicemail update, but won't actually let me install it.
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Do you have the latest radios?
The voicemail update (or lack of update, rather) is a ROM issue. It affects Fresh and others. More info and fix here.

sturmen said:
Do you have the latest radios?
The voicemail update (or lack of update, rather) is a ROM issue. It affects Fresh and others. More info and fix here.
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hmm, thats weird. I didn't have the problem before i flashed it with the kernel. any info on the 4g issue? if thats rom as well, then netarchy kernel is fine.
edit: just did a quick flash of king's kernel. seems like the 4g issue is rom issue as well.

Kings has been amazing so far, i'm very satisfied!

I have used both and get better battery out of kings by a large margin. I am using the BFS #4 and couldn't be happier. I had the 100% CPU issue on nets last update.
Here is a simple thing for me: When I am running Kings, my phone seems cooler to the touch, no matter what I'm doing. On nets, it get warm, then cools, then warm. Heat is wasted energy.
I think lots of the meat and cheese in Kings kernel came from net anyhow, but I no longer has a need to flash a new kernel. Sticking with kings.
-Roger

Like said above, if it isn't broke, I don't fix it. I'm using Netarchy's 4.18 and I'm not having the 100% cpu issue at all

Ok, figured I'd contradict myself and flash king's #4 bfs and test benchmarks against net's 4.1.8 bfs. Here are my results:
Fresh 3.1.0.2 / novatec 0003 / setcpu @ 1152 performance
fps2d:
net's - 54/2.69 attempt 2 of 3
king's - 54/1.84 attempt 3 of 3
linpack:
net's - 37.029 attempt 4 of 5
king's - 37.661 attempt 4 of 5
Nena Mark: Only ran once
net's - 15.7
king's - 15.5
Neocore: Only ran once
net's - 31.4
king's - 31.7
Quadrant:
net's - 1496 attempt 1 of 2
king's - 1513 attempt 2 of 2
Looks like king won this round. Gonna keep running it to see what battery life is like.

Netarchy 4.1.8. Maybe I'll try King's....but Netarchy is always on the ball. My battery is at 26.0 C on Net's and I've been surfing the web.
Will be using net's. It's like Kobe v LeBron

MedSchool26 said:
Netarchy 4.1.8. Maybe I'll try King's....but Netarchy is always on the ball. My battery is at 26.0 C on Net's and I've been surfing the web.
Will be using net's. It's like Kobe v LeBron
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Lol or Ford vs. Chevy

[Q] Fps fix on Fresh 3.2

Is there a way to uncap the fps on the latest fresh rom. So far fresh is my favorite rom but the one thing that I'm missing about being on cm6 is the fps fix. So is there a fix?
I'm willing to switch the kernel if I have to as long as it's not going to cause any problems or anything.

Switch Kernal
Same here, once I switched to this kernal I couldn't live without my extra fps. I'm now using netarchy's kernal and it works fine without a problem.

mrusheen said:
Same here, once I switched to this kernal I couldn't live without my extra fps. I'm now using netarchy's kernal and it works fine without a problem.
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Cool I was kinda wondering what kernal would work with this. I see alot of the CM6 guys using snap but I didn't know if that would work with mine.
How is netarchy with battery life compared to 3.2 kernel?

I flashed this onto my phone but my evo now is at 31.7fps using neocore on fresh 3.2. When I was on Cm6 I was getting around 47 so why is it that I've only uncapped my fps by 1 point?

guitarjockey said:
I flashed this onto my phone but my evo now is at 31.7fps using neocore on fresh 3.2. When I was on Cm6 I was getting around 47 so why is it that I've only uncapped my fps by 1 point?
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It's not that it uncapped it by only one point, it's just that CM6 is quite a bit faster since it doesn't have Sense and the rest of the HTC stuff running in the background. Run an fps2d test and you should be getting around 55.

Don't quote me on this, but since the FPS fix is done in the Kernel flipz is not going to be doing this. His ROM's use the Stock Kernels it kind of sounds like he is not going to mess with them.
I believe I seen him say this or deny this on his personal webpage forums.

you are right flipz isnt currently doing this fix int he kernel since it is pretty much the stock kernel. You have 2 options KingxKernel and NetArchy kernel. I cant tll you for sure how battery life compares to 3.2 fresh but I have read both work with it. Both will give you unlocked FPS.
Snap kernel will not work with Fresh as Snap is for CM only currently.
all 3 to my knowledge (may have changed over the last fw days) are based on the foryo build not the new OTA that fresh is using. I would expect to see new updates coming in the near future to change this up (whenever HTC releases or source is leaked at least)

You start mixing and matching and you'll possibly run into issues.
3.2 has an UNRELEASED kernel from HTC.
Netarchy and the others with the FPS fix are using an OLDER kernel.
Do you want the new, or the old with the FPS fix?
As stated in all the other threads several times... When this UNRELEASED update from HTC goes PUBLIC and when the source code is available, then you will get FPS fix in it.
If you choose to use a rom with an unreleased kernel then put on an old kernel and run into issues, hope you keep your backups up to date.

I'm actually using Netarchy's newest CFS kernel with Fresh 3.2 and I haven't had a single problem. Battery life was the same as before, but I'm getting 55fps with a stdev of 2.3 in fps2d.

SolsticeZero said:
I'm actually using Netarchy's newest CFS kernel with Fresh 3.2 and I haven't had a single problem. Battery life was the same as before, but I'm getting 55fps with a stdev of 2.3 in fps2d.
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That's why I said possibly. Nobody has looked into the source code which doesn't seem to be available yet to really know all of what's changed. You may NOT run into issues, or you may hit just the right combination to cause issues. Nobody knows yet.
I, personally, need my phone on a day to day basis for business purposes and only "play" with it after hours. I take the slower, wait and see approach to see what's stable and fully working before I change things around.
I just hope this unreleased patch doesn't turn into the accidental PRE release of 2.2 where folks were in such a rush to have the latest that they ended up with a stale version and had to update again.

Have you guys checked the Fresh Updater, in it he has kernel choices... I was running kingz BFS#8 and it was lovely....you lose nothing and gain everything

Tired that 2 days ago.. #8 I had such bad fps. Encore of 18 and quadrant I have never seen such low numbers.. but not every phone is the same..
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I'm using kingz #8 as well with Fresh 3.2 and have FPS of 54-55 and quadrant scores of around 1600 (overclocked to 1.15)

[Q] Need HTC G2/Vision help

Well... I browsed through the forum, and I'm pretty new. I read some stickies and the "read before posting" but still couldn't find my answer. I'm pretty much a noob with Android so I have a few questions.
I know when my HTC Vision gets here I'm going with Cyanogen, but I don't know what the difference between normal, nightly and experimental is. Well Exp. is prob beta, but whats Nightly?
Also I hear you can OC the Vision/G2, pretty well infact. I was wondering is it just an app? And how would you test for stability. Oh and what is YOUR max OC on your Vision/G2?

Cm has a few options. You got the normal or stable version. Then you got RC (release candidates) which you will find pretty stable. Then you got the nightlies.....VERY experimental they are updated every night.......
I forgot your other questions but uhh i run oc at 1.8
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I use the stable cm roms because I have less trouble with it. For overclocking, you will need to install setcpu from the market after you flash your cm of choice. Then in setcpu its pretty easy to overclock it to what you want
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as for the overclocking, there's a few methods to doing it. Some roms have a kernel already put in for it. Then there are a few update.zips that can be applied through your recovery loader just like you would install a rom. Then there's a adb push and install deal. Theres also a gscript module. If you're not familiar with adb or gscript then I would suggest installing a zip or a rom that comes packaged with it.

Appogee said:
Well... I browsed through the forum, and I'm pretty new. I read some stickies and the "read before posting" but still couldn't find my answer. I'm pretty much a noob with Android so I have a few questions.
I know when my HTC Vision gets here I'm going with Cyanogen, but I don't know what the difference between normal, nightly and experimental is. Well Exp. is prob beta, but whats Nightly?
Also I hear you can OC the Vision/G2, pretty well infact. I was wondering is it just an app? And how would you test for stability. Oh and what is YOUR max OC on your Vision/G2?
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Just figured id jump in and link you with some literature to get you ready.
Your gonna need ADB to root your phone and other various things. So heres your starting point:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=ADB
Then you have to get root access in order to install custom roms:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_G2:_Rooting
Then get a recovery image and install Cyanogen:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Vision:_Recovery_&_CyanogenMod
Hope that helps. The good people in this forum deserve a lot of credit. Dont forget to give thanks and shoutouts.

Haha, well all my questions have been answered. You guys are defiantly more helpful than asking my friends (whom envy the G2 bwahaha XD). Uhhh as for OCing, am I going to have to run a stability test of somesort? If so for how long. I mean I don't want it to be like Prime95 on the comp, that just takes like 2-4 hrs to ensure stability.
Also, @shortlived, what do you see as your battery life for a 1.8 OC, seems pretty sweet to get it up to a lower end Intel Atom processors clock.

HTC Releases the sourse code for EVO GB Kernel

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-r...ncluding-evo-3d-sensation-4g-and-incredible-2
http://developer.htc.com/

Finally! I need some sbc goodness!

YES!!! SBC and hopefully the tun.ko module compiled in so that I can use the Cisco SSL VPN client on my EVO4G!!!

Best news I've heard today!

FINALLY!! woot!! can't wait for that sweet battery loving kernel!!

I wonder how long it will take them to get some new kernels out now? HTC took forever to release it. Looking forward to some new kernels.

It's about time.. now I can use the latest roms
EVO 4g:Manila Carbon Fiber v2.4
KERNEL:Netarchy 4.3.2 cfs sbc havs less

With this, could we potentially get 720p video on AOSP roms?

mayanka89 said:
With this, could we potentially get 720p video on AOSP roms?
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I don't think so. The source code for the HTC kernel will allow custom kernels to be made for Sense GB ROMs.
Awesome news, I just got done flashing MIUI and Deck's and nanding back to MikG, damn the bloat, but AOSP just isn't as smooth and stable for my EVO.

"source"; This was already posted in general section hours ago; this news doesn't belong in development.

We cant for forgot all of those sweet Govenors...especially smartass; as well as the BFS scheduler and HAVS.

Ok I'm confused,
I thought we already had that???
Looking at SavagedZen 2.2.1 it says it is 2.6.38. with SBC etc
Yet the HTC just released is 2.6.35
What gives? what am i missing?

x130844 said:
Ok I'm confused,
I thought we already had that???
Looking at SavagedZen 2.2.1 it says it is 2.6.38. with SBC etc
Yet the HTC just released is 2.6.35
What gives? what am i missing?
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This is for Sense ROMs based on the latest 2.3.3 update. If you don't get it, just move along.

github said:
This is for Sense ROMs based on the latest 2.3.3 update. If you don't get it, just move along.
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Oh ok. i thought they shared the same versioning, so.. yeah anyway. Thank you for the clarification.

github said:
This is for Sense ROMs based on the latest 2.3.3 update. If you don't get it, just move along.
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thanx for the LOL

Well, I wasn't trying to be mean (for the LOL, but it was funny now that I read it again). I was just being lazy and didn't feel like going into the differences and such.

github said:
Well, I wasn't trying to be mean (for the LOL, but it was funny now that I read it again). I was just being lazy and didn't feel like going into the differences and such.
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and no worries, i didn't read it the wrong way.
all good here.

woooo sbc here we come! im running senseless synergy rc2 and its running great.. but i really do miss my CM build with sbc...

Duplicate thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191582

oc help

ok well i am new to evo i rooted flash to Evolved. i looked around but i only see oc to 1.2 i came from a shift and was able to pull 1.5 from it . so Kernel or rom can pull more

craven667 said:
ok well i am new to evo i rooted flash to Evolved. i looked around but i only see oc to 1.2 i came from a shift and was able to pull 1.5 from it . so Kernel or rom can pull more
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To my knowledge, and others can correct me if I'm wrong, but Evo 4g on any current Kernel out there can be only overclocked to 1.2. Some people even are having problems at that speed, so I doubt going any higher would be beneficial. Not saying you shouldn't try, I'm just saying that it probably wouldn't be stable.