Well... I browsed through the forum, and I'm pretty new. I read some stickies and the "read before posting" but still couldn't find my answer. I'm pretty much a noob with Android so I have a few questions.
I know when my HTC Vision gets here I'm going with Cyanogen, but I don't know what the difference between normal, nightly and experimental is. Well Exp. is prob beta, but whats Nightly?
Also I hear you can OC the Vision/G2, pretty well infact. I was wondering is it just an app? And how would you test for stability. Oh and what is YOUR max OC on your Vision/G2?
Cm has a few options. You got the normal or stable version. Then you got RC (release candidates) which you will find pretty stable. Then you got the nightlies.....VERY experimental they are updated every night.......
I forgot your other questions but uhh i run oc at 1.8
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I use the stable cm roms because I have less trouble with it. For overclocking, you will need to install setcpu from the market after you flash your cm of choice. Then in setcpu its pretty easy to overclock it to what you want
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as for the overclocking, there's a few methods to doing it. Some roms have a kernel already put in for it. Then there are a few update.zips that can be applied through your recovery loader just like you would install a rom. Then there's a adb push and install deal. Theres also a gscript module. If you're not familiar with adb or gscript then I would suggest installing a zip or a rom that comes packaged with it.
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Well... I browsed through the forum, and I'm pretty new. I read some stickies and the "read before posting" but still couldn't find my answer. I'm pretty much a noob with Android so I have a few questions.
I know when my HTC Vision gets here I'm going with Cyanogen, but I don't know what the difference between normal, nightly and experimental is. Well Exp. is prob beta, but whats Nightly?
Also I hear you can OC the Vision/G2, pretty well infact. I was wondering is it just an app? And how would you test for stability. Oh and what is YOUR max OC on your Vision/G2?
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Just figured id jump in and link you with some literature to get you ready.
Your gonna need ADB to root your phone and other various things. So heres your starting point:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=ADB
Then you have to get root access in order to install custom roms:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_G2:_Rooting
Then get a recovery image and install Cyanogen:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Vision:_Recovery_&_CyanogenMod
Hope that helps. The good people in this forum deserve a lot of credit. Dont forget to give thanks and shoutouts.
Haha, well all my questions have been answered. You guys are defiantly more helpful than asking my friends (whom envy the G2 bwahaha XD). Uhhh as for OCing, am I going to have to run a stability test of somesort? If so for how long. I mean I don't want it to be like Prime95 on the comp, that just takes like 2-4 hrs to ensure stability.
Also, @shortlived, what do you see as your battery life for a 1.8 OC, seems pretty sweet to get it up to a lower end Intel Atom processors clock.
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I rooted my Evo with unrevoked3 and have had a pretty good experience so far. I used stock HTC Sense, then switched to CM7 and tried Fresh and am flashing MIUI.
But, what the heck do I know? What would be a good kernel/ROM combination? I'll go with either Sense or something else, I just want 2 features:
1) speed (I overclock too, using SetCPU)
2) wireless hotspot
I don't really care about 4G that much, I just want something stable and fast.
I understand most of how to do it, but a few words of advice would be nice too I guess.
As far as the wifi hotspot, all roms have this built in. And even if they didnt, Wireless Tether is available for free in the market.
As far as rom/kernal combo, I hate to say it, but just read on here. Nobody can tell you what the best combo for you is. You just need to experiment and try different things until you find one that works.
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As far as the wifi hotspot, all roms have this built in. And even if they didnt, Wireless Tether is available for free in the market.
As far as rom/kernal combo, I hate to say it, but just read on here. Nobody can tell you what the best combo for you is. You just need to experiment and try different things until you find one that works.
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What he said.
You would need an overclocking kernel. There are a few out there. A popular one is Netarchy's kernels. Check development.
soo many variables when it comes to ROMS and kernels. theres a lot of roms and kernels that speed things up and stuff. it all comes down to your preferences on look, feel, battery etc...
theres sense based roms that are plenty fast and stable IMHO. I use a Mik 4.5 AND 4.6 ROM samples in my Sig.
AOSP and gingerbreads may be a bit faster but not as stable. I KNOW, I KNOW theres a lot of folks that say its stable because you have to tinker and update all the time. if you like a high maintenance rom try them out. just brace yourself for them forums if you have any noob questions. dont get me wrong not everybodys flamers but a lot of em are.
check out these and Flash like Mad!
best database out there
sense kernels
S-zen non-sbc and S-zen
kernel guide
...always nand backup
I figured out the problem I had with Cyanogenmod7's wireless tethering, thanks.
I've been trying to install MIUI but having some problems with that... Myn's working good for me though, and still looking around. Thanks much
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I am looking for a stable 2.2 or 2.2.1 rom for my wifes g2. I have glanced at the development forum and it seems gingerbread is all the rage right now. My wife just needs a solid, dependable, daily driver. I just want to flash something for her that works and be done with it. The stock rom seems to have some bloat and I am hoping for better battery life as well.
What is the most popular rom at the moment? I rooted her phone (permanent s-off) so I am ready to go. Thanks in advance!
I would honestly suggest cm7. Or for the best sense rom, virtuous. You could just remove the bloat with Titanium backup from the stock rom.
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Thanks for the info. I will probably give virtuous a try.
Highly recommend virtuous' froyo offering until the dev releases the gingerbread version. I've been using it since I got my DZ and it's simply amazing how stable and fast it really is.
I actually flashed Virtuous this morning to see if it was any good and all I can say is it was laggy as a shaggy sheep. I flashed the whole thing through rom manager and did a full wipe so I don't know what the hell but it was insanely laggy. You could hit a button and wait well over a second for a response. Maybe I needed to flash a new kernel? Maybe I needed to run the update from .0 to .1? Who knows?! I found it aesthetically pleasing but that is about it. (Maybe it is because I have a g2 and it is for desire z?)
For stable daily drivers I've been using Cm6.1.1 for nearly a month. I found Cm7RC4 to have to many niggling issues like my camera locking up the phone every couple times I tried to use it. Let alone needing to use gps.
I hear good things about miui but I cannot speak from experience.
I've been using CM7 RC2 for a couple of weeks now without issue. It has been stable, improved battery life and performance.
I'd also suggest CM7. I've been using that ever since i rooted my phone, and havent had any problems with it so far.
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I actually flashed Virtuous this morning to see if it was any good and all I can say is it was laggy as a shaggy sheep. I flashed the whole thing through rom manager and did a full wipe so I don't know what the hell but it was insanely laggy.
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I have never flashed a rom through rom manager. Only really used it to get CWM installed. I prefer to get a rom going the old fashioned way and flash through recovery. Did a full wipe of data, battery, davlik then installed the rom on day one and has been running flawless ever since.
While CM7 is working good its not 100% stable yet. There are random reboots and freezes. I would say the most stable ROM at the moment is CM6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841275 It's not Gingerbread but still everything works and there are no problems to report.
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I actually flashed Virtuous this morning to see if it was any good and all I can say is it was laggy as a shaggy sheep.
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Keep in mind that CyanogenMod is designed specifically to be *fast*. Virtuous is simply a port of the HTC Sense ROM. Also, keep in mind that Virtuous comes 'out of the box' with the regular HTC kernel - 800MHz, no changes. There are 2 additional kernels available: Standard - OC'd to 1GHz (highest you can go without changing voltage) and a built-in screen off profile. Does not support SetCPU or anything. Advanced is a full-blown open kernel - you can setup your own profiles, overclock (I think to 1.5GHz or so). I personally run Advanced to 1.2GHz with some other profiles, but if it was my wife's phone, I'd toss the Standard kernel in there and call it a day.
Also, Sense *does* add some bloat (it's an entirely new UI), but it's totally worth it, IMO (especially for a girl's phone). The improved visuals, extra features, etc make it totally worth it. If you're doing that much, go ahead and setup LauncherPro instead of the stock Sense launcher and she'll be rocking and rolling.
This is very helpful info everyone. I now have to decide between cm 6.1 and virtuous. Sounds like both of these roms are the set it and forget it variety which is what I was looking for. She is not a flashaholic like myself so one stable rom is all I need.
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I used to use virtuous but now I'm running sense ginger from team villain. Flawless IMHO. By far the best battery life I have ever had with normal use. Give it a shot. Also FYI you need to OC virtuous to run good.
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From experience... Virtuous
Nice and stable
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Also FYI you need to OC virtuous to run good.
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See that is the thing, I don't like the fact that I will have to overclock my phone to make Virtuous "run good". That is pretty damn silly in fact. I mean they package the kernel for stock speeds since it is based on the DZ stock rom. What about all those desireZ owners? They surely don't have to overclock to make their phones run without any lag. Why not package a kernel that is capable of overclocking to a reasonable speed out of the box like any one of the cyanogen releases?
I feel this is a tremendous oversight on the ROM developers part. I would love to rock their rom and get a good feel for Sense UI so all the people who come to me for advice on tech related matters can have my unbiased opinion on the UI, not what I had to go through to make it run without any lag. That is some Grade A bull****.
I suppose it would be less bull**** if I knew how to flash a kernel.
You flash it the same as a Rom except no wipe and it takes about 30 seconds. Also virtuous used to come stock with overclock but took many people were having issues with it. As in they don't know how to set up proper profiles with a setcpu type program. So the overlook kernels became an extra add-on for more advanced users.
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Virtuous is good with overclock. I found the untouched gingerbread sense ruu that rmk prepared to be a lot smoother. Bluetooth was a bit hit and miss though.
I'm on the saga ginger sense rom right now and no issues at all. Had to tweak some aesthetic things like font, but it's good.
Still haven't found a rom on the dz as good as Super D was on the G1 yet...
Man, Super D rocked...I'm getting all nostalgic. I'm gonna have to go visit my g1 soon (I sold it to my buddy) lol oh yeah...I'll visit my buddy too haha
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I actually flashed Virtuous this morning to see if it was any good and all I can say is it was laggy as a shaggy sheep. I flashed the whole thing through rom manager and did a full wipe so I don't know what the hell but it was insanely laggy. You could hit a button and wait well over a second for a response. Maybe I needed to flash a new kernel? Maybe I needed to run the update from .0 to .1? Who knows?! I found it aesthetically pleasing but that is about it. (Maybe it is because I have a g2 and it is for desire z?)
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Funny thing, I think the first 20 or so minutes on a new rom may not be representative. I flashed my wife's mt3g slide using the stock update, and it lagged BADLY for the first 20 min. Including a battery pull because the phone app (com.android.phone) went non responsive. Just my $0.02.
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I mess around with other roms, but I keep coming back to CM6.1.1. Virtuous is nice, but I'm not a fan of Sense UI.
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Ultimate Droid 3.2.5
This rom gives you plenty of options, is as stable as CM6.1 or more stable. Runs faster.
I do think it scores somewhat slower on the benchmarks, however in this users opinion it is much faster in scrolling, loading, and general usage.
You will have to google to find it, but give it a try. You can have lots of the sense elements or disable them if you want a more plan vanilla experience.
Also I did very much like cm6.1
Cm7 is coming along but still working out many bugs... see the changelog. Many will say this is stable enough for daily use.
I used to use virtuous, have since moved on to gingerbread ROMs though. When I was using virtuous it was brilliant. Fast and stable. It was not laggy like another user said. I used CWM recovery to flash it and did a full data/cache wipe beforehand and you should do whenever you change ROMs. Another vote for senses ease of use and virtuous' reliability!
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I have come from the ERIS and as far as kernels go the Incredible has a lot more to offer. This leaves me confused as to which would be the best. I currently and running latest nightly of cm7(smooth) and 2.6.38.6-Tiamat v4.03 with chad0989's voltage tweak download. Nothing to complain about really but with all the undervolting and voltage tweaking and updated drivers etc i get kinda lost in the mix.
My question is what do most of you prefer for a kernel setup that provides you with the most stable experience for the way you use your phone?
If this helps I like my phone to be responsive - and if batt life suffers a bit then thats not a big of a deal. I use my phone to stream googles beta music cloud thing, watch some netfilx, play some angry birds, make some calls and a few texts. Nothing overwhelming.
Thanks for all your help!
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I have come from the ERIS and as far as kernels go the Incredible has a lot more to offer. This leaves me confused as to which would be the best. I currently and running latest nightly of cm7(smooth) and 2.6.38.6-Tiamat v4.03 with chad0989's voltage tweak download. Nothing to complain about really but with all the undervolting and voltage tweaking and updated drivers etc i get kinda lost in the mix.
My question is what do most of you prefer for a kernel setup that provides you with the most stable experience for the way you use your phone?
If this helps I like my phone to be responsive - and if batt life suffers a bit then thats not a big of a deal. I use my phone to stream googles beta music cloud thing, watch some netfilx, play some angry birds, make some calls and a few texts. Nothing overwhelming.
Thanks for all your help!
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for AOSP id try incredikernel or invisiblek. PS, this is the dev section, questions arent allowed here.
Thanks for the info . On the Eris dev section questions were flying all over(unless they changed it) Where should i move it to?
Thanks
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Thanks for the info . On the Eris dev section questions were flying all over(unless they changed it) Where should i move it to?
Thanks
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q&a would be appropriate
Stating you are not trying to be rude and then doing it anyways with the statement - "its not rocket science" - makes you sound like you are 5. I cant even imagine how you could be of any use to anyone when putting down someone for misplacing a Question is the only logical thing you could think of to say.
paperweight said:
I have come from the ERIS and as far as kernels go the Incredible has a lot more to offer. This leaves me confused as to which would be the best. I currently and running latest nightly of cm7(smooth) and 2.6.38.6-Tiamat v4.03 with chad0989's voltage tweak download. Nothing to complain about really but with all the undervolting and voltage tweaking and updated drivers etc i get kinda lost in the mix.
My question is what do most of you prefer for a kernel setup that provides you with the most stable experience for the way you use your phone?
If this helps I like my phone to be responsive - and if batt life suffers a bit then thats not a big of a deal. I use my phone to stream googles beta music cloud thing, watch some netfilx, play some angry birds, make some calls and a few texts. Nothing overwhelming.
Thanks for all your help!
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For me, chad's latest incredikernel beta 7 has been super smooth with stellar battery life. Never had great results with Tiamat on my Dinc. I just keep it at the regular voltages and it works great
invisiblek is very reliable too, just a modified version of slayher's stock CM kernel
FLASH away!!
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Yes, this would be better suited for q and a but no reason to be mean about it, it'll get moved. Seems like half the threads in development don't even have DL links up, they're just for roms "coming soon".
As for kernels, I stick with incredikernel and invisiblek. Tiamat gave me some reboots but when I could get it to work it seemed nice.
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Is there even a point rooting my phone when its already Gingerbread? can someone tell me the general features I can get, and what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
The point of rooting is to open up a whole new world of customization. Once you root your phone, you can do a lot LOT more with your phone than you can now.
Just look at the choices of roms you'll have.
Believe me, rooting your DHD will be the best thing you'll do to your phone.
And as far as custom roms are concerned, there is no such thing as 'the best rom'.. it all depends on personal choice.
If you like the idea of trying different roms then you'll need to root.
You can get an idea from the screenshots in the ROM threads of how different your phone experience can be with custom roms.
(I started out rooting just for an easier way to take screenshots.)
Here is a page of screenshots from the CyanogenMod 7 rom I had on my phone a while back (plus some other wallpapers). As you can see, it is quite different. It's worth trying different roms if you like to tinker and improve the experience, be it visual, performance or whatever.
It can become an addiction or distraction though, so be warned. Good Luck.
It most certainly can become an addiction and distraction. I've got exams to worry about and my mind keeps going back onto this lol
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It most certainly can become an addiction and distraction. I've got exams to worry about and my mind keeps going back onto this lol
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Amen. Likewise. hahaha.
One word - Customisation.
That's why you should root and try out different ROMs find out the mix that suits you perfectly rather than sticking to what HTC TELLS you you want.
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what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
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The is no best rom. Each has specific features, so you have to test what works best for you.
Popular roms are Android Revolution HD, CyanogenMod, Leedroid, Rcmix, MIUI, Coredroid etc...
wow , that cyanogenmod actually looks good! Just a couple of questions:- 1) How can i root (lol) 2) Can it be reversed at all? (the ROMs and rooting?)
thats all for now! thanks for everyone whos posted so far
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wow , that cyanogenmod actually looks good! Just a couple of questions:- 1) How can i root (lol) 2) Can it be reversed at all? (the ROMs and rooting?)
thats all for now! thanks for everyone whos posted so far
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Everything is here mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079108
Using the search function is your best friend
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Is there even a point rooting my phone when its already Gingerbread? can someone tell me the general features I can get, and what are the best roms out there if i do root? thanks
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With a rooted phone, you can get total control of your phone,
With stock ROMs they have limited some functions, but once you rooted you can get rid of those limitation. For simple example, you cant take screenshots of your phone without rooting.
And secondly you can install custom ROMs on your phone and even overclock your processor.
Hope this helped,
Thanks!
As pointed out, you can overclock your phone. The DHD can run up to 1.9Ghz !
I normaly have mine running anything up to 1.6
Plus overcocking means that the phone can be underclocked for when the screen is off, saving battery.
As for ROM's. I have traditionally always run CyanogenMod as it's a nice, slick, fast experience.
If you try CM, then don't forget how much you can customise your screens using different 'Launcher' apps. I use ADW Ex but Launcher Pro is another popular one and there's plenty more. Most have downloadable themes(skins) too.
Oh, and if you really want some fun, try one of the new full Sense 3.0 rom's to see how fansy sense can get. I'm running Virtious Unity at the moment and it's the first Sense ROM I've run since I first rooted the phone ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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Very addicting indeed.. More like, 3 times a day in flashing different roms, just for the sake of showing off to my significant other..
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As pointed out, you can overclock your phone. The DHD can run up to 1.9Ghz !
I normaly have mine running anything up to 1.6
Plus overcocking means that the phone can be underclocked for when the screen is off, saving battery.
As for ROM's. I have traditionally always run CyanogenMod as it's a nice, slick, fast experience.
If you try CM, then don't forget how much you can customise your screens using different 'Launcher' apps. I use ADW Ex but Launcher Pro is another popular one and there's plenty more. Most have downloadable themes(skins) too.
Oh, and if you really want some fun, try one of the new full Sense 3.0 rom's to see how fansy sense can get. I'm running Virtious Unity at the moment and it's the first Sense ROM I've run since I first rooted the phone ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115312
But as stated elsewhere - beware, flashing becomes addictive
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i rooted two days ago and now im running cm7. best decision i have ever made!! wish id done it a lot sooner. i have a question about overclocking, well, underclocking with cm7. did you use the performance setting within cyanogenmod to adjust the cpu settings or did you use a third party app like setcpu. going to try around 1400 overclock and run whatever the minimum is.
cheers
Hi, my name is Dylan and im a noob. I searched the forums and couldn't find my answer if its out there could someone please link it, but if its not here goes..
Let me start off saying I'm fascinated by phone rooting and all the things that are possible and I'm so thankful for these forums so shout out to all the devs. My amazing girlfriend bought me my first smartphone for Christmas (dinc) and I'm amazed by it. Thanks to these forums I've successfully downgraded from 2.3.4 to 2.2 and rooted it. I'm obsessed with flashing roms now, but kushdecks ics has me I love the look, but sorry for the irrelevant info to my question. I'm using incredikernel ics idk the version its the latest one and I enabled zram overclocked to the Max setting and set to smartassv2. Now I was wondering is there any way to tweak it a little more to speed it up and get more out of the battery? I have the 2150 battery but it still drains it like a mug. And also my phone sometimes just freezes and I need to pop the battery out because it just totally lags out. Any fix to that as well? I already followed the setting guide with the wifi, sync, location etc. Thanks.
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Well if you've been through the dislplay setting and cut the diplay to 15 % brightness sound like you've done that part well.
CPU settings, i prefer intellidemand but whatever floats your boat.
If you are determined to stick to ICS I suggest swithcing to Evervolv preview 7, its a bit farther along than ics inc deck in development.
If battery life is your top prority, I suggest switching to one of the AOSP gingerbread roms like CM7, Inc-Deck, or OMGB/OMFGB. they run great and no programs really hog battery.
Use adrenaline mod v13, since i began using it I've gotten better life. It can be found in POQbum's post at the top of the dev forum.
Finally, monitor your usage. Playing with your phone can be addictive, just remember that the display is usually the culprit behind poor battery life.
Good Luck!
What's evervolvs URL?
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http://rootzwiki.com/topic/15460-evervolv-ics-rom-preview-7/
Thank you that from is way more smoot
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Hi, my name is Dylan and im a noob. I searched the forums and couldn't find my answer if its out there could someone please link it, but if its not here goes..
Let me start off saying I'm fascinated by phone rooting and all the things that are possible and I'm so thankful for these forums so shout out to all the devs. My amazing girlfriend bought me my first smartphone for Christmas (dinc) and I'm amazed by it. Thanks to these forums I've successfully downgraded from 2.3.4 to 2.2 and rooted it. I'm obsessed with flashing roms now, but kushdecks ics has me I love the look, but sorry for the irrelevant info to my question. I'm using incredikernel ics idk the version its the latest one and I enabled zram overclocked to the Max setting and set to smartassv2. Now I was wondering is there any way to tweak it a little more to speed it up and get more out of the battery? I have the 2150 battery but it still drains it like a mug. And also my phone sometimes just freezes and I need to pop the battery out because it just totally lags out. Any fix to that as well? I already followed the setting guide with the wifi, sync, location etc. Thanks.
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I might be wrong about this but I believe by overclocking you mean increase the CPU speed which in return will usually equate to lower battery life. That ROM is also still in alpha stage. Some roms with good battery life are miui,not the ics version, and some have great luck with CM7.
If you're desiring battery life, go to the cm7 nightly thread and use one of the kangs. Ics isn't ready for daily use quite yet
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