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Alrighty so I have a friend coming over this weekend with her EVO 4G and I will be doing some level of hacking to it. I want to give her options of ROMS & kernels so can I get some feedback on the best custom Sense ROMS as well as ASOP ROMS plus what the best kernel options are.
As far as I know she has a stock battery so whatever kernel that will give her the best battery life/performance would be great
I might as well say it because this is the reply you're going to get. You should just read threads and try them out until you find one you like. There is no best because many of them are designed to do different things. Only you can choose which functions are most important to you and which Rom matches those functions.
Tough question to ask because it weighs heavily on user preference. My personal favorite rom is Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 using SBC trickel charge kernel. I get fantastic battery life and the rom is as smooth as butter. This is a Sense based rom without all the bloatware that Sprint puts on it. As far as AOSP roms alot of people like CM6 or the CM7 nightlies. I have only tried CM6 and its pretty sexy also but I prefer Myns rom a bit more. Check out Myn and CM6 or CM7 those should be good starting points.
we're just trying to keep the development section clear. i understand this is the most popular section and it's where all the cool and exciting things happen.. but there is an appropriate section for questions and answers, it's called Q&A. there's more people in there willing to help you answer any all questions you have.
that said, don't be surprised is mods come along and move this to Q&A (already would be if I was a mod). so please, I mean this will respect, post in the appropriate sections from now on.
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Tough question to ask because it weighs heavily on user preference. My personal favorite rom is Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 using SBC trickel charge kernel. I get fantastic battery life and the rom is as smooth as butter. This is a Sense based rom without all the bloatware that Sprint puts on it. As far as AOSP roms alot of people like CM6 or the CM7 nightlies. I have only tried CM6 and its pretty sexy also but I prefer Myns rom a bit more. Check out Myn and CM6 or CM7 those should be good starting points.
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I've been eyeing Myn's ROM for my wife's DInc too but she's not as open to me hacking her phone all the time so I may consider that one.
I put a modified version of CM based on Froyo onto my brother-in-law's Eris which worked pretty well too despite that phones lack of horsepower.
Thanks for the recs
well you know, maybe if you read the rules?
JagoX said:
Man talk about a difference in user communities...I never got this type of response in the DInc & DX sections when I posted the *exact* same question in the development sections.
But whatever...as long as the question get answered that is all I care about.
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honestly, you're lucky I came along first.. most people would have flamed you to hell and back. we just like to keep order here to keep a decent noise/information ratio. development threads in development section and question threads in q&a section. it's been this way for me ever since i've joined
As was stated "this lies alot on how each person uses their phone". Me personally prefer the Mikfroyo 4.5 with a Netarchy kernal. You can see what I am using in my signature. Rom is very quick and smooth and battery life is great for me.
"Walk by Faith-not by Sight"
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Agreed on the noise/information ratio. Instead of most of the responses being the typical troll response, they could've either just ignored the thread or sent a request to a mod to have it moved.
But whatever...I do appreciate any responses in general (except the "well maybe you shouldn't root it then" response)
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The problem with the evo's is that they are all soo differently and react so much differently to every rom and kernel respectively. For my MIkfroyo and netarchy's gave me great performance and battery life. the same set up on my friends phone halved his battery life. my top choices are Mik, EVIO, and King's.. they get along best with my phone... as for kernel that is high phone specific, do you want SBC, etc..
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As was stated "this lies alot on how each person uses their phone". Me personally prefer the Mikfroyo 4.5 with a Netarchy kernal. You can see what I am using in my signature. Rom is very quick and smooth and battery life is great for me.
"Walk by Faith-not by Sight"
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Mikfroyo and Netarchy rock my EVO world.
I think I will start a new thread in this sub-forum asking everyone which apps they can't live without.
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The problem with the evo's is that they are all soo differently and react so much differently to every rom and kernel respectively. For my MIkfroyo and netarchy's gave me great performance and battery life. the same set up on my friends phone halved his battery life. my top choices are Mik, EVIO, and King's.. they get along best with my phone... as for kernel that is high phone specific, do you want SBC, etc..
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Well yea I'm aware of that b/c I experienced something similar with the DInc b/c some kernels didn't work as well as others (but did for others.) I know that I *may* have to try different kernels (which I know is easy to change) but with ROMs getting different recommendations does help weed out those that are either junk or dead roms...and ultimately makes my choices easier.
i would download several of the newer roms and try them all my fav right nnow is CM7-GX4 is a nice gingerbread rom but it just depends on your personal taste and needs
also depends on if you want sense or AOSP
I would just show a few screen shots and of MikFroyo, Myn, Ava, EViO, and maybe Koni's Elite. All of those are stable and similar in performance if she's not a really heavy user. I personlly have had the best results/experience with Mik and EViO. For Kernels, try a couple and see which works with her phone (more havs, les havs, no havs, or whatever). I would start with net's latest stable CFS, and go from there if it doesn't play well with her phone.
If she lives in a 4g area or uses HDMI, I would stay away from any AOSP ROMs, since none of them have it either, other than the CM wimax beta. IMO, it's a bad idea to put a beta ROM like that on someones phone if they don't know how to put it there themselves so they can remove it if need be.
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I would just show a few screen shots and of MikFroyo, Myn, Ava, EViO, and maybe Koni's Elite. All of those are stable and similar in performance if she's not a really heavy user. I personlly have had the best results/experience with Mik and EViO. For Kernels, try a couple and see which works with her phone (more havs, les havs, no havs, or whatever). I would start with net's latest stable CFS, and go from there if it doesn't play well with her phone.
If she lives in a 4g area or uses HDMI, I would stay away from any AOSP ROMs, since none of them have it either, other than the CM wimax beta. IMO, it's a bad idea to put a beta ROM like that on someones phone if they don't know how to put it there themselves so they can remove it if need be.
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Ive been doing some research into her options and since 4G is not possible at the moment with CM6, it is officially off the table...kinda bummed about that one
EViO is looking pretty promising as one option however I think Myn's might egg it out simply because of how clean the UI mods are. MikFroyo could be good but I'm not a fan of how just about everything has a gradient on it (that stuff is fugly imho.)
MIUI is looking pretty solid too but since it is a bit of change from the normal flow of Android, I'll have to let her decide based on the videos & then try installing it if she wants to really see it.
If you don't want all the extra stuff, you can try the earlier versions of Mik. 4.2 has a lot of the speed, but none of the theming. It looks a lot more stock.
Also, you can try AvaZ3. It uses a Mik base and is somewhat themed, but still looks clean, can't remember if it has a lot of the gradients you were talking about.
Azrael is also very stable and fast, but I don't think he's going to be updating it anymore. I guess that doesn't matter if she's not going to be changing ROMs often.
EViO is an excellent choice though, when I was on it, it was as fast or faster than most other ROMs while being underclocked. I was on v1.77 and had awesome battery life on the built in kernel. I think with the new version, in order to take advantage of all the features, you need to use Ziggy's latest kernel. I would use the CFS since BFS may or may not play nice with her phone. Also, if you flash EViO, make sure to flash the restore default buttons zip attached to the bottom of the first post or her search button won't work.
For Sense, I really like Calk's EViO 2 series. it is very clean not too many mods and kinks that could break stuff and also has a undervolt script that keeps the battery in check, he is a top Dev.
As for AOSP I dont use CM7 yet as it is still experimental but i recommend either CM6 and especially MIUI coupled with the new SavagedZen kernel, fast, smooth and stable.
Here's a question...besides CM6, what other ROMS have 4G compatibility issues?
Granted I know some phones may be react differently but do certain ROMs play nicer with certain kernels then others?
Give Myn Warm a try
I have been using Myn's WarmTwoPointTwo RLS5 for several weeks and find that it is fantastic. Stable, smooth, and sexy.
Just got an EVO tonight, I would have liked to wait for 3D but I needed faster internet/phone asap since I started my new job.
I've been reading the forums, how to root, etc. the past couple of days, and am in the process of rooting. But there are just so many ROMs all which have there own pros/cons, so I was wondering if anyone had advice based on what I mainly want to use my phone for...
CM7 seems like the most popular, and I care mainly about stability, removing bloatware, and performance, care less about visual stuff. Plus it sounds like you can customize it with themes anyways.
But I've read threads where GPS/4G breaks which is what I care about the most.
I live in OC which has 4G, and that is the primary reason I upgraded from my old phone. 95% of the time this phone will be used for internet/games.
I was debating just going for a stock ROM, but not sure if benefits of a custom one outweighs stock ones.
Does anyone have advice on a stable ROM that improves performance and has little risk of breaking things like 4G? Or at least a few I can narrow down to?
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Just got an EVO tonight, I would have liked to wait for 3D but I needed faster internet/phone asap since I started my new job.
I've been reading the forums, how to root, etc. the past couple of days, and am in the process of rooting. But there are just so many ROMs all which have there own pros/cons, so I was wondering if anyone had advice based on what I mainly want to use my phone for...
CM7 seems like the most popular, and I care mainly about stability, removing bloatware, and performance, care less about visual stuff. Plus it sounds like you can customize it with themes anyways.
But I've read threads where GPS/4G breaks which is what I care about the most.
I live in OC which has 4G, and that is the primary reason I upgraded from my old phone. 95% of the time this phone will be used for internet/games.
I was debating just going for a stock ROM, but not sure if benefits of a custom one outweighs stock ones.
Does anyone have advice on a stable ROM that improves performance and has little risk of breaking things like 4G? Or at least a few I can narrow down to?
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Normally I would suggest MIUI, but since you need 4G either go with CM 7 or if you want to stick with a Sense based ROM I would suggest MikFroyo. Hope that helps and good luck with the new job.
Strife025 said:
Just got an EVO tonight, I would have liked to wait for 3D but I needed faster internet/phone asap since I started my new job.
I've been reading the forums, how to root, etc. the past couple of days, and am in the process of rooting. But there are just so many ROMs all which have there own pros/cons, so I was wondering if anyone had advice based on what I mainly want to use my phone for...
CM7 seems like the most popular, and I care mainly about stability, removing bloatware, and performance, care less about visual stuff. Plus it sounds like you can customize it with themes anyways.
But I've read threads where GPS/4G breaks which is what I care about the most.
I live in OC which has 4G, and that is the primary reason I upgraded from my old phone. 95% of the time this phone will be used for internet/games.
I was debating just going for a stock ROM, but not sure if benefits of a custom one outweighs stock ones.
Does anyone have advice on a stable ROM that improves performance and has little risk of breaking things like 4G? Or at least a few I can narrow down to?
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If you want to keep your stock rom you can also just search root uninstaller on the market and get rid of any bloatware on the stock rom.
CM7 is the way to go friend...
Thanks for the replies. I thought I'd get the CM7 suggestions. I'm assuming RC4 is the version I want?
The only issue I had was that I saw in the known issues that some people were experiencing problems with 4G/GPS, so I wasn't sure if that was a widespread issue or not.
cm7 is an awesome ROM, dont get me wrong... if its your first rom troubleshooting may be a hassle because until it becomes an official release there will be bugs to deal with.
my suggestion would be look in the development thread and try a simple sense based rom first and read its threads (or even cm7 for that matter) to see what people are reporting about it.
*imho*
I switch between my own stock backup and CM7. CM7 is the way to go if you are looking for a different rom. It is basically stable. I have found nothing wrong with it.
MIKFROYO is great, but have been running Koni's Elite 111 with Honeycomb Dream theme for over a month...AWESOME...STABLE...FAST using netarchy 4.3.2 cfs sbc havs less
I was wondering this myself last week and what I found out is that once you see how easy it is to switch roms you'll be testing out a bunch of them and keep finding yourself returning to a particular one for one reason or another... and that's the one I stuck with. I ended up using Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo but I'm sure I'll be trying out a couple more today
Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS5. It's fast, stable and everything works and it's very customizable like any other Android device.
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But GPS does not work on CM7 without real hassle, well I couldn't get it to work.
Love that you got a new job and need a phone to play games and browse the web 95% of the time
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Koni's elite series iii is very stable, very fast, and looks great.
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But GPS does not work on CM7 without real hassle, well I couldn't get it to work.
Love that you got a new job and need a phone to play games and browse the web 95% of the time
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lol I know right. Basically my old company was cool with everything as long as I got my work done so I never really needed to use internet on my phone as much. Have a good gaming rig at home and was always at my desk at work.
My new job is with at a larger corp. (like 3,000 people) and has way more rules and regulations. My boss doesn't care and always goes on his phone or reads the paper in his freetime, but it's a company rule. So I wanted something that I could go online with
Anyways, I rooted and installed CM7 last night, it was quite easy. I haven't had any problems but I did like certain things with the stock Sense UI better. Maybe I'll try some other ROMs suggested here since it was so easy.
I gotta agree that, I've use MIUI, CM6 (not 7), fresh, and researched but not used MikFroyo, and my favorite right now is Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS5 w/o a doubt. It has everything you would want in a SENSE based ROM. Then, I'd also download the launcher pro that's right on that same thread, it adds a ton of additional customization that is great.
If you want a stock look but a bit faster and possibly better battery life check out Calkulins evio series 2 its on version 1.8,by far my favorite sense rom.
If you want aosp gb rom very stable really fast,gps works for me but with all gb aosp its different from user to user.Try salvage mod on version 1.1 though 1.2 is coming soon.
Both great roms.
I'm running the new CM7 Final, and I love it. I was using the nightlies and the RC's, and they were all great for a daily driver. Now CM7 Final is out? To me, this can't be beat.
It's fast, stable, has the features, and does everything I want. Let us know which one you decided to try out...
I know that there was at least one post other for this, but I was wondering if some of you guys could give me a couple more (newer) rom and kernel recommendations or combinations. I have been reading threads in this forum for about a week or so now and there are so many different things that its almost overwhelming. I am fairly new to rooting (I rooted one phone prior to this) and am somewhat familiar with what roms and kernels I can use together, but a little advice/confirmation/recommendation never hurt anyone.
Basically, what I am looking for is something that is super responsive with a lot of internal space free for apps that I use (I would prefer not to have to use apps2sd). I would like to try to safely overclock the cpu (this is the first phone I have had the opportunity to overclock ). I NEED BATTERY! No, really, I need the battery to last at least 12 hours with some use (I work 12 hour shifts). It also needs have working Wi-Fi, 3G, 4G, and GPS (as I use all of them).
I've been thinking of trying Deck's rom with Tiamat kernel (not the sbc build correct? That's for extended batteries I believe) and was wondering if anyone had any experience with this setup. Any other setups anyone could recommend would be great to hear about too.
Currently, I am running Synergy RC1 but wanted to see what else is out there.
I really appreciate people taking the time to read this and post their thoughts. I'll eagerly be awaiting your responses. Thanks!
I too would like some recommendations. My buddy just got an EVO and he wants me to root it for him and flash a custom ROM. I am a thunderbolt guy so I am not familiar with the current ROMS for the EVO. What are your recommendations for a sense ROM? Any sense 3.0 ROMS?
You can't go wrong with anything from Myn or Mik. I justed recently flashed EVOlvedAndroid's Director's Cut and it works pretty nicely. Fresh ROMs are okay too but I almost always find my back to a rom by Myn or Mik.
You might get a "you can search threads and see what sounds good to you" response.
or a "each ROM will work differently for different people on different phones. same with kernel combos."
you might even get a link to the Wiki.
If you want an AOSP Rom:
I can say that I am running Deck's latest with the kernel it comes with and it's doing just fine. I might use kernel manager to pick out a new kernel.
I like the latest Tiamat and Godmode kernel with cm7, but I for some reason was having problems with my GPS off and on with cm7. No problems with Deck yet.
If I decide to go with a Sense ROM, I'll try out MikG and use kernel manager if the one it comes with doesn't cut it.
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You might get a "you can search threads and see what sounds good to you" response.
or a "each ROM will work differently for different people on different phones. same with kernel combos."
you might even get a link to the Wiki.
If you want an AOSP Rom:
I can say that I am running Deck's latest with the kernel it comes with and it's doing just fine. I might use kernel manager to pick out a new kernel.
I like the latest Tiamat and Godmode kernel with cm7, but I for some reason was having problems with my GPS off and on with cm7. No problems with Deck yet.
If I decide to go with a Sense ROM, I'll try out MikG and use kernel manager if the one it comes with doesn't cut it.
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I did search out a lot of these roms and kernels. I also understand that a lot of this is trial and error as well. I was only inquiring as to what people liked/preferred and what has worked well for them. So far I have flashed a couple of different roms (Sense and AOSP) and a few tiamat kernels and have found each has its ups and downs (for me anyways). Right now I think I prefer AOSP to the sense roms out there. They seem much faster but I also haven't done any modding to the phone other then roms/kernels (still getting my feet under me). Any other recommendations anyone has would be much appreciated, along with any mods that may be useful. Thanks for taking the time to read this and posting responses.
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Basically any AOSP (only ones I've used are cm7 and decks) with the tiamat kernel will get you sick battery life. Once there are custom kernels for the new sense roms they will get great battery life too but if battery is most important to you you can't go wrong with decks or cm7 + tiamat kernel.
i been using steelH rom since the upgrade to gb. i haven't had many problems with any of them. the latest version 1.07, i really like it.. the last few days i been running it pretty hard. i'm seeing a good increase in battery life. on top of that i took a lot of bloat out and added a few apps. it hasn't complained and the fone seems to like it.. it also has a pretty small footprint\install..
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asop: cm7 or deck ( i dont think ther are much more choices i like decks cuz its a little cleaner and i can always find a way to customize it enough for my own taste.)
Sense w/ froyo 2.2 ( love myn's and fresh for more customized looking roms have great battery and everything works. if you like stock go to sprint lovers 2.2 and you wont be let down it was my fall back rom that ALWAYS worked)
sense w/ gingerbread 2.3 ( havent used it sorry to many blah issues here and there especially since we got an os upgrade i think htc shorted us and should have given us some sense love too.)
Sense 2.1+ w/ gingerbread ( I am running virus's nightly of the kingdom revolution rom which gives you sense 3.0 (woot!!) and gingerbread together which runns pretty damn good i tryed the synergy/kingdom hybrid and it seemed to work pretty well but seeing this rom is pretty bulky compared to the roms made for evo apps2sd needs to work and i was having issues with that. so anything strictly kingdom or strictly 2.1 would be your best bet.)
hope this helps if you want me to elaborate i'll try to check back and see what i can say
Based on the majority of posts I've read, people seem to choose Synergy or Alliance.
My current ROM of choice is EVOlvedROM Directors Cut RC1.
It's very fast and good on battery life too.
The AOSP ROM of choice is Deck's 1.2.1
Enjoy
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Based on the majority of posts I've read, people seem to choose Synergy or Alliance.
My current ROM of choice is EVOlvedROM Directors Cut RC1.
It's very fast and good on battery life too.
The AOSP ROM of choice is Deck's 1.2.1
Enjoy
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I'd have too agree that Deck's rom with the Tiamat kernel has been pretty epic for me so far. Its too bad that there aren't more AOSP roms to try. Deck's its great so far! The battery isn't as bad as I thought it would be overclocked either. Is anyone doing any tweaking of their clockspeed? Do you even need to adjust the clockspeed with the screen off with the smartass governor? From what I've read it shouldn't be necessary. Sorry to slip in the questions, was just doing done reading today and was wondering if anyone had experience with this. Thx.
Sent from my Evo 4g running Deck's Rom with Tiamat 4.0.6+ @1.157 ghz.
Vaelpak is another aosp rom
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You might get a "you can search threads and see what sounds good to you" response.
or a "each ROM will work differently for different people on different phones. same with kernel combos."
you might even get a link to the Wiki.
If you want an AOSP Rom:
I can say that I am running Deck's latest with the kernel it comes with and it's doing just fine. I might use kernel manager to pick out a new kernel.
I like the latest Tiamat and Godmode kernel with cm7, but I for some reason was having problems with my GPS off and on with cm7. No problems with Deck yet.
If I decide to go with a Sense ROM, I'll try out MikG and use kernel manager if the one it comes with doesn't cut it.
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You cant change kernels on any sense based gingerbread rom. There are no custom gb kernels yet. Thats been the problem with sense gb roms lately...battery life kinda sucks
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I will be flashing my first rom and kernel to my Evo, Im just wondering others experience and whats a good fast and stable rom as well as what kernel to add on?? Any input is great,,
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I would argue that it is personal preference. I went through alot of different
Setups. I settled on mikg 2.58 latest sense with aggressive freedom kernel universal.
I am in extreme rural area so I was very picky on battery life. My cell radio is constantly
Boosting its own voltages to get better reception, so i was looking for the absolute best battery life from a ROM. I also am a sense fanboy regardless of critics, b/c the EVO was made for that very reason.
Things to consider...are you in the city? If so most of.the popular stuff will be fine for battery.
Are you a modder, hacker personality. If so spend some time backing up through titanium and and Google sync. So you can test all the ROM.kernels without losing your phone,phone.
If not then look for stability. It is vital to learn about the gereneral process b4 getting started so you don't have a lot of issues.
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Some myths. Every single ROM has a random knucklehead saying its the best battery stability they have ever seen. Don't believe it. They all have strengths and weakness. Further, go for setcpu root and learn it. It's the best and will allow any ROM to be better.
Longwinded, I know. But cm7.cm9 if you like plain vanilla based aosp rom. Mikg if you like sense based rom. Kernel chopsuey or more/aggressive freedom kernel are the best for.battery in my opinion.
I agree with gentlye! This is very much a personal preference. You will most likely spend many days figuring it all out and testing several different setups. One of the first things to figure out is if you want a "Sense" ROM or an "AOSP" ROM. Before getting started with anything though be sure that you know how to make a "nandroid" backup and use it. That will ultimately save you some time and frustration and potential disaster.
I personally am a huge fan of the "gingerbread-evo-deck" ROMs which are AOSP based. My current setup is with "gingerbread-evo-deck [1.3][2.3.7 Stable]" ROM and "Tiamat_Evo-v3.3.7-sbc" Kernel. This setup is very stable, fast, and has great battery life for me. It is a pretty popular setup and most users seem to have good success with it. I highly doubt that I will be changing my ROM again.
Just be sure to do your research and nandroids and all will be fine. Good luck!
Thanks alot ima do some more research i live in a somewhat big city, problem is i dont have much time,, now ive heard depending on what root method u use some roms arent compatible???
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Thanks alot ima do some more research i live in a somewhat big city, problem is i dont have much time,, now ive heard depending on what root method u use some roms arent compatible???
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I have never heard of that. Once rooted you should be able to flash any ROM you want from recovery I think. And, as long as you have a nandroid backup it is super easy to go back to a previous setup if you don't like the results.
I would have to say Newtoroot's SuperSonic3D XL Beta and Aggresive-Freedom kernel.
Yeah im somewhat new,, at least to evos i was just asking cuz i looked up how to root it and it something about that i just wanted to make sure
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I will be flashing my first rom and kernel to my Evo, Im just wondering others experience and whats a good fast and stable rom as well as what kernel to add on?? Any input is great,,
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check out the link in my sig
It without a doubt is personal preference. I prefer launcher pro so therefore don't care for sense based ROMs. There is a user at SDX named DC13 who makes ROMs. He posts his ROMs here sometimes as well. Anyway, he has a ROM based off of the old CM7. I used that ROM with savaged zen's kernel and my phone ran GREAT. Battery life was outstanding and performance was good. I can't say enough good things about that ROM. I switched to the new CM7 a week or so ago and am considering goimg back because the battery life is noticeably not as good. I am still testing though.
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It without a doubt is personal preference. I prefer launcher pro so therefore don't care for sense based ROMs. There is a user at SDX named DC13 who makes ROMs. He posts his ROMs here sometimes as well. Anyway, he has a ROM based off of the old CM7. I used that ROM with savaged zen's kernel and my phone ran GREAT. Battery life was outstanding and performance was good. I can't say enough good things about that ROM. I switched to the new CM7 a week or so ago and am considering goimg back because the battery life is noticeably not as good. I am still testing though.
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maybe you should check out decks gb rom, click on the link in my sig to see different roms and kernels
I nominate CM7/Xplod with tiamat 4.1 or 3.3.7.
Hi everyone, my Incredible 2 just arrived and I'm about ready to root it and flash a ROM. I first wanted to try the CM7 stable build because they're "official" developers in my opinion, but I read some posts and there seems to be some issues with various small things. I looked at the nightlies and those still seem to have issues as well. Then I looked over here at the CM7Kangs, but something seems to tell me that CM isn't completely stable in itself. Whether it does or doesn't have Sense, etc. I'm just interested in a new ROM that is stable and fully functional (cameras work, GPS works, etc). The main reason for flashing a new ROM is because I don't want all the bloatware that comes with this thing, and even if it isn't cutting edge, I'm sure it can be faster than stock. Any suggestions guys?
EDIT: I hear Skyraider Zeus/MIUI are good. I found Skyraider Zeus 1.3 on the internet, but what versions of MIUI are stable? I hear this ROM has good reviews too
http://roms.miui.us/ 1.12.9 is stable an totally functional works good with areoevans .7 bfs kernel
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http://www.teambamf.net/f37/[rom][gb]-skyraider-zeus-1-3-inc2-[update-11-22-2011]-2725/
This is skyraiders link which is a top notch sense rom.
Skyraider's roms are top notch. All the current cm7 kangs work without flaws. Miui12.9 is awesome. Also look into condemned sense rom, any of nits work, alot of people are running mikrunny 3.5
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Thanks! Just wondering, is Skyraider Zeus overclockable? I looked at the post and the only kernel it mentions is the "HTC OTA update". IIRC, you need a special kernel to OC, don't you?
Also, my question above is the same for the MIUI 1.12.9 ROM. Can it be OC'd? is it fully stable on the non-aeroevan kernel?
Yes you can us dres kernel found in development forum for skyraiders and miui I recommend using areovans kernel due to stock kernel can cause a few issues (low in call volume and for some data is not reliable)
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another vote for SkyRaider Zeus. if you want a ROM you can set and forget, this is it. everything works, except for Verizon's wifi tether in the "quick launch", but that's it. it's just as reliable as stock or better, has tons of features and extras built in. a lot of thought, and time went into this, it is truly a complete Sense ROM.
never tried AOSP ROMs so i can't comment.
good luck in your search. at least try Zeus, you won't be disappointed.
I personally haven't tried miui so I wont comment on that. There are plenty of great roms out there. I am currently using the latest cm7 nightly as my DD (#134 I think?) with excellent results! I cant remember seeing any issues since i flashed it. I am going on nearly a month with zero issues. Before this rom I tried out New To Root's Incredible 2 HD RLS v1.1 which was also a flawless rom from my experience. I had no luck with the RC releases of cm7 but I know of others who love them.
I like to run sense from time to time but I always go back to aosp for the customization possibilities it offers.
In the end, none of us can tell you what the best rom for you is. I can say that in general if you want a rom that you can flash and forget about it you will probably want to go with a rom that has been around for a while, preferably one that is in RC or Final status.
My advice is to try a few so you can see whether you like miui, aosp, or sence. Once you figure that out then just try a few of that type to find one that suits you.
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Well I've never even used a smartphone before other than when occasionally using my brother's iPhone 4, so the interface won't be a big deal. I'll adapt and enjoy whatever I end up using. I just want to use something that's stable (in the sense that it's fully featured and nothing randomly messes up) and fast. Skyraider Zeus and the various CM7 kangs seem to accomplish this. I'll have to think harder on which one i want to use. The CM7 kang i'm looked at is by Condemned Soul. I can't really post in that forum yet, so I'm using this thread as a way to get this type of information.
The CM7 kang that he made is already able to OC I believe because of the CM kernel...so that's a plus because I'd really just want to flash the phone and enjoy using it. I like tinkering with stuff, but I don't want to constantly worry about flashing/unflashing and causing instability. I need this phone to last until the next upgrade. The thing is, "Sense" seems really interesting. People say it looks nice and has lots of features, but I've never really experienced these features anyway, so maybe I should go with CM7.
I always hear people talking about how stable MIUI is, but that has not been my experience with MIUI at all. I have tried MIUI three or four times on a few different android devices each time following the install instructions exactly. Wiped factory reset, dalvik, permissions battery stats etc. all the default ROM install stuff.
Each time MIUI boots up fine and works well for about 3 hours and then randomly reboots and glitches forcing me come back to the stable CM7 version.
I really want to like MIUI, but my experiences seem to be very different than most people.
Interestingly enough, when I googled the word "issues" on Cyanogenmod's stable forum, they mentioned stuff about Skype having problems with audio that was fixed in the non-stable nightly #134. This is why I am wondering if CM7 is truly stable or not. I'm not sure how to track errors/issues, so I don't know what the nightlies have improved upon, and I definitely don't know what the kangs improve on/fix.
If you like tinkering with stuff I'd say you could go the CM or MIUI (AOSP) route. But this phone is not going to be as good as other phones that are running aosp. It was made to run sense.
Fully featured is also going to set you back, do you mean fully featured as in being able to use it as a world phone? GSM Capabilities?
If so you're going to have to run stock or close to stock.
Me personally, I like sense. MikRunny 1.01 here. Fast, stable and everything works. Except for GSM though.
cstone1991 had it right though, you have to run them to see which one you like best. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on which ROM runs best and again each phone is going to run ROMS differently as well.
For ROM's you're going to basically go through different bases like this.
AOSP ROM's like CM7, MIUI
Sense 2.1 ROM's like Andybones stock or skyraider zeus
Sense 3.0 ROM's like Virtuous
Sense 3.5 ROM's like MikRunny
Each base has different features, different feel. You'll also have the ability to theme them differently as well.
Try the ones that interest you the most, run them for a few days each and see which one fits you the best.
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If you like tinkering with stuff I'd say you could go the CM or MIUI (AOSP) route. But this phone is not going to be as good as other phones that are running aosp. It was made to run sense.
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I like tinkering with stuff, but only to a point. I don't like to constantly have to "re-do" things that don't have to do with the tinkering process (IE: Flashing over and over). What makes the phone able to run "Sense" instead of AOSP? I'm not aware of the whole Sense vs AOSP bit. If I could get some solid info on why I should run Sense instead of AOSP, I'll run Skyraider Zeus most likely, etc.
Fully featured is also going to set you back, do you mean fully featured as in being able to use it as a world phone? GSM Capabilities?
If so you're going to have to run stock or close to stock.
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What I mean is that I don't need "extra" features or anything like that. I just want the phone to work the way it's supposed to....such as GPS and the camera(s) working. I don't want to have to sacrifice something I use often in order to gain speed. World capabilities aren't a big deal to me for sure. I don't know what "tethering" is so that whole bit isn't too important either.
Me personally, I like sense. MikRunny 1.01 here. Fast, stable and everything works. Except for GSM though.
cstone1991 had it right though, you have to run them to see which one you like best. Everyone is going to have their own opinions on which ROM runs best and again each phone is going to run ROMS differently as well.
For ROM's you're going to basically go through different bases like this.
AOSP ROM's like CM7, MIUI
Sense 2.1 ROM's like Andybones stock or skyraider zeus
Sense 3.0 ROM's like Virtuous
Sense 3.5 ROM's like MikRunny
Each base has different features, different feel. You'll also have the ability to theme them differently as well.
Try the ones that interest you the most, run them for a few days each and see which one fits you the best.
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Thanks for this huge list. What's the difference between Sense 3.5 vs 3.0 vs 2.1? Yes, the obvious answer is that one is newer than the other. I heard Sense 3.5 has issues with the camera being upside down, etc. So I'd probably stick with the Sense that came with this phone (Sense 2.1 probably)
ma70ent said:
I like tinkering with stuff, but only to a point. I don't like to constantly have to "re-do" things that don't have to do with the tinkering process (IE: Flashing over and over). What makes the phone able to run "Sense" instead of AOSP? I'm not aware of the whole Sense vs AOSP bit. If I could get some solid info on why I should run Sense instead of AOSP, I'll run Skyraider Zeus most likely, etc.
The drivers are mostly what's different. Because HTC uses sense originally, Sense is going to be what works the best. It's not that it can't run AOSP but that sense is going to run without problems because that's what it was made to run.
What I mean is that I don't need "extra" features or anything like that. I just want the phone to work the way it's supposed to....such as GPS and the camera(s) working. I don't want to have to sacrifice something I use often in order to gain speed. World capabilities aren't a big deal to me for sure. I don't know what "tethering" is so that whole bit isn't too important either.
All the features work in most ROM's like that. Some ROM's (Mostly AOSP) have issues where the camera is stretched (front facing cam on miui). You're not really losing anything on other ROM's it's just that they work differently.
Thanks for this huge list. What's the difference between Sense 3.5 vs 3.0 vs 2.1? Yes, the obvious answer is that one is newer than the other. I heard Sense 3.5 has issues with the camera being upside down, etc. So I'd probably stick with the Sense that came with this phone (Sense 2.1 probably)
Sense 2.1 has the older stuff, it's probably going to be the fastest out of the rest of them because it has the least amount of stuff in it. This is what comes on the phone stock and what Skyraider runs.
Sense 3.0 incorporated new features like a new lock screen, new weather app, weather animations, sounds, display features, dial pad, messaging. It's running more stuff so in order to run correctly you would have to use a rom that's optimized.
Sense 3.5 is the newest and also has different features but it's very close to 3.0. Just about everything is the same that you can see but there are differences behind the scenes. Also there are no camera issues unless someone puts out a ROM that was quickly thrown together.
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I say you skip 3.0 altogether and run either 2.1 or 3.5. Anything is better than stock with all the bloat so try skyraider or andybonesstock.
If you wanna try 3.5 go with MikRunny 1.01 and in the display turn off the 3d widget features. See how that runs on your phone, It's flawless on mine, I get no lag but again different phones run differently.
Alright I've decided to go with Skyraider Zeus thanks to reading all of this. Thanks for all of the help. I don't plan on flashing a new kernel onto Skyraider Zeus, so whether the stock SZ kernel can OC or not doesn't matter to me.
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Alright I've decided to go with Skyraider Zeus thanks to reading all of this. Thanks for all of the help. I don't plan on flashing a new kernel onto Skyraider Zeus, so whether the stock SZ kernel can OC or not doesn't matter to me.
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I don't think you will need to over clock. I haven't needed to on this phone. I have tested it and all it did for me was reduce battery life and improve benchmark scores. I haven't been able to tell a difference in actual usage whether I run at 1ghz or 1.8ghz so I opt for better battery life. The only rom that I benefitted from overclocking on was one of the really early ICS builds.
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To all you who responded and to the OP - thanks!
This thread has been very helpful, I just got my Inc 2 last week and looking forward to trying out some new ROMS.
I've read that the stock kernel changed with the OTA updates (I'm on 2.3.4)
Does that limit which of the ROMs I can run?
Are there better ROM managers than others when it comes to this phone and the ROMs available for it?
Thanks.
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Rickinsav said:
To all you who responded and to the OP - thanks!
This thread has been very helpful, I just got my Inc 2 last week and looking forward to trying out some new ROMS.
I've read that the stock kernel changed with the OTA updates (I'm on 2.3.4)
Does that limit which of the ROMs I can run?
Are there better ROM managers than others when it comes to this phone and the ROMs available for it?
Thanks.
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The fact that you're on 2.3.4 means you need to use a downgrade tool and go down to 2.3.3. Then you'll use software called "Revolutionary" to get root, etc. If you search for "nat3mills" on youtube, and look under his videos for incredible 2 stuff, he has step by step tutorials on how to do all of this. That's what I'm going to do. Hopefully XDA doesn't penalize me for referencing this youtube user. Good luck!
EDIT: Also I'd like to ask everyone, since you feel there is no point in overclocking, is there a way to undervolt with any of these ROMs? Specifically SkyRaider Zeus/CM7 (asking because these seem to be the two common choices for people, and I figured this thread could now be used as a good reference) My logic behind undervolting is that if you can overclock it drastically on stock voltage (which is what I assume SRZ and CM7 are on) then you can probably keep it at stock clocks and undervolt it for better battery life/temperatures.
EDIT #2: Ok I was just looking in CondemnedSoul's CM7Kang thread. Apparently there is an app called Incredicontrol that let's you mess with voltages. Just to make sure, CM7 in itself only has the ability to control clock speeds (under/overclock) and not voltages, right? This means that Incredicontrol is necessary to mess with voltages?
from my understanding; if you OC and UV you gain nothing, if you UC and UV you conserve battery, if you OC and OV you make your device faster but perhaps introduce instability.
i've been reading tons of threads, clock speeds and volting included, and i have made the decision to not O/UC nor O/UV because my phone works great as it is and i do not care about benchmarks and my battery life is acceptable as it is.
if you really want to know more, set aside some time (hours) to search and read thread after thread on these topics and make your own educated decision based on the debates other members have participated in.
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from my understanding; if you OC and UV you gain nothing, if you UC and UV you conserve battery, if you OC and OV you make your device faster but perhaps introduce instability.
i've been reading tons of threads, clock speeds and volting included, and i have made the decision to not O/UC nor O/UV because my phone works great as it is and i do not care about benchmarks and my battery life is acceptable as it is.
if you really want to know more, set aside some time (hours) to search and read thread after thread on these topics and make your own educated decision based on the debates other members have participated in.
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Uhhh, you're looking at things the wrong way completely. Having less voltage whether something is overclocked or underclocked is ALWAYS better. If you increase the clock speed and have the voltage less than stock, it's a complete WIN WIN situation unless it introduces instability, but this is something you test for. Some people Overvolt to Overclock even further, but increasing voltage is not ALWAYS necessary. Keeping speeds at stock, but UNDERVOLTING helps battery life. Finally, overclocking but keeping stock voltage is the best combination for actual speed. Increasing voltage reduces battery life much more than simply increasing clockspeed.
This is how things work for desktops, and I'm sure it applies to everything else, including phones.
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Uhhh, you're looking at things the wrong way completely. Having less voltage whether something is overclocked or underclocked is ALWAYS better. If you increase the clock speed and have the voltage less than stock, it's a complete WIN WIN situation unless it introduces instability, but this is something you test for. Some people Overvolt to Overclock even further, but increasing voltage is not ALWAYS necessary. Keeping speeds at stock, but UNDERVOLTING helps battery life. Finally, overclocking but keeping stock voltage is the best combination for actual speed. Increasing voltage reduces battery life much more than simply increasing clockspeed.
This is how things work for desktops, and I'm sure it applies to everything else, including phones.
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Not necessarily...desktops and laptops and phones (hardware in particular) is built to run within certain voltage limits. Undervolting CAN help but not in all situations, and especially when running at max-min frequency can cause major instability in a speed-step cycle.
It is usually safe to undervolt a little bit with most hardware - but radios in general can be affected by voltage. Test all hardware with stress testing to ensure it is safe FOR YOUR PARTICULAR PHONE.
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To keep the thread on track - this phone was meant to run with Sense 2.1 - if you sync multiple email accounts or run many apps (buggy or not) you should probably stick with Sense 2.1. If you arent a demanding mobile phone user try anything else. I wish the AOSP builds were more compatible with HTC - and if AOSP isnt integrated into any HTC phones in the future I may switch to another manufacturer.