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[Q] Fps fix on Fresh 3.2

Is there a way to uncap the fps on the latest fresh rom. So far fresh is my favorite rom but the one thing that I'm missing about being on cm6 is the fps fix. So is there a fix?
I'm willing to switch the kernel if I have to as long as it's not going to cause any problems or anything.

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Same here, once I switched to this kernal I couldn't live without my extra fps. I'm now using netarchy's kernal and it works fine without a problem.

mrusheen said:
Same here, once I switched to this kernal I couldn't live without my extra fps. I'm now using netarchy's kernal and it works fine without a problem.
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Cool I was kinda wondering what kernal would work with this. I see alot of the CM6 guys using snap but I didn't know if that would work with mine.
How is netarchy with battery life compared to 3.2 kernel?

I flashed this onto my phone but my evo now is at 31.7fps using neocore on fresh 3.2. When I was on Cm6 I was getting around 47 so why is it that I've only uncapped my fps by 1 point?

guitarjockey said:
I flashed this onto my phone but my evo now is at 31.7fps using neocore on fresh 3.2. When I was on Cm6 I was getting around 47 so why is it that I've only uncapped my fps by 1 point?
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It's not that it uncapped it by only one point, it's just that CM6 is quite a bit faster since it doesn't have Sense and the rest of the HTC stuff running in the background. Run an fps2d test and you should be getting around 55.

Don't quote me on this, but since the FPS fix is done in the Kernel flipz is not going to be doing this. His ROM's use the Stock Kernels it kind of sounds like he is not going to mess with them.
I believe I seen him say this or deny this on his personal webpage forums.

you are right flipz isnt currently doing this fix int he kernel since it is pretty much the stock kernel. You have 2 options KingxKernel and NetArchy kernel. I cant tll you for sure how battery life compares to 3.2 fresh but I have read both work with it. Both will give you unlocked FPS.
Snap kernel will not work with Fresh as Snap is for CM only currently.
all 3 to my knowledge (may have changed over the last fw days) are based on the foryo build not the new OTA that fresh is using. I would expect to see new updates coming in the near future to change this up (whenever HTC releases or source is leaked at least)

You start mixing and matching and you'll possibly run into issues.
3.2 has an UNRELEASED kernel from HTC.
Netarchy and the others with the FPS fix are using an OLDER kernel.
Do you want the new, or the old with the FPS fix?
As stated in all the other threads several times... When this UNRELEASED update from HTC goes PUBLIC and when the source code is available, then you will get FPS fix in it.
If you choose to use a rom with an unreleased kernel then put on an old kernel and run into issues, hope you keep your backups up to date.

I'm actually using Netarchy's newest CFS kernel with Fresh 3.2 and I haven't had a single problem. Battery life was the same as before, but I'm getting 55fps with a stdev of 2.3 in fps2d.

SolsticeZero said:
I'm actually using Netarchy's newest CFS kernel with Fresh 3.2 and I haven't had a single problem. Battery life was the same as before, but I'm getting 55fps with a stdev of 2.3 in fps2d.
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That's why I said possibly. Nobody has looked into the source code which doesn't seem to be available yet to really know all of what's changed. You may NOT run into issues, or you may hit just the right combination to cause issues. Nobody knows yet.
I, personally, need my phone on a day to day basis for business purposes and only "play" with it after hours. I take the slower, wait and see approach to see what's stable and fully working before I change things around.
I just hope this unreleased patch doesn't turn into the accidental PRE release of 2.2 where folks were in such a rush to have the latest that they ended up with a stale version and had to update again.

Have you guys checked the Fresh Updater, in it he has kernel choices... I was running kingz BFS#8 and it was lovely....you lose nothing and gain everything

Tired that 2 days ago.. #8 I had such bad fps. Encore of 18 and quadrant I have never seen such low numbers.. but not every phone is the same..
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I'm using kingz #8 as well with Fresh 3.2 and have FPS of 54-55 and quadrant scores of around 1600 (overclocked to 1.15)

Virtuous 3.1 combo.....

So last night I installed the new virtuous Rom and custom kernel from Rom manager bc its supposed to have great battery life, well after a full bump charge overnight my phone is already down 5% in just an hour. Anyone know what might be going on, should I find a new Rom/kernel combo?
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Are you sure you bump charged the right way?
Also, try the newest leaked HTC kernel.

For one, I believe the Virtuous posts states that since 3.1 is based off of a newer leak of sense, that the newest v4 stock kernel is recommended as the custom kernel is based off the previous release, so that may have some effect.
Secondly, is that really that bad? That comes out to about 20 hours of battery life, which is more than a lot of people get (with a stock battery at least). Of course, if you haven't been using it at all in that hour I guess that's a different story.
Sent from my Droid Incredible

dpwhitty11 said:
Are you sure you bump charged the right way?
Also, try the newest leaked HTC kernel.
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i charged with phone on till light turned green then turned off phone and finished charging.
wouldn't happen to have a link for that kernel would ya ??

XideXL said:
For one, I believe the Virtuous posts states that since 3.1 is based off of a newer leak of sense, that the newest v4 stock kernel is recommended as the custom kernel is based off the previous release, so that may have some effect.
Secondly, is that really that bad? That comes out to about 20 hours of battery life, which is more than a lot of people get (with a stock battery at least). Of course, if you haven't been using it at all in that hour I guess that's a different story.
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ok thanks for the input i will try the stock kernel, i was just going off what was in rom manager b/c it says custom kernel had tweaks for battery performance. i was also thinking about trying the new redemption rom, have any experience with it ?

trembly01 said:
ok thanks for the input i will try the stock kernel, i was just going off what was in rom manager b/c it says custom kernel had tweaks for battery performance. i was also thinking about trying the new redemption rom, have any experience with it ?
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The tweaks for battery performance is it has perflock disabled so you can set custom profiles in SetCPU.

Kernel suggestions?

Here is the situation, I appreciate any feedback. I'm running Remptive Revolution with the Distinction 1.49 theme on it, I flashed over to one of ziggy's kernels not too long ago and it seems like it rips my battery up. I usually have it around 1.15 on demand in SetCPU with profiles set to 384max when screen off, and 768 max when below 50% and 691 below 30%. It seems like the original ROM kernel was wicked fast but I didn't get a good chance to test out the battery life. I've tried a few different kernels and I'm considering going back to one of the Hydra kernels, I feel like they haven't done me wrong. I'm just looking for a good solid kernel that will give me solid battery and good performance, I know I won't get the best of both worlds, but I'd prefer good battery life. Also, pro/cons/purpose of wiping battery stats? I can't seem to find any info about it.

I really like chads kernels. His newest one an oc to 1.113 and is faster then any other kernel ive ever used with really good battery life. (ive only tested the battery life at stock speeds.) And the purpose of wiping battery stats is to let your phone recalibrate the battery so basically you can get the best battery life. ( i believe at least)

Gahh Its Lee said:
I really like chads kernels. His newest one an oc to 1.113 and is faster then any other kernel ive ever used with really good battery life. (ive only tested the battery life at stock speeds.) And the purpose of wiping battery stats is to let your phone recalibrate the battery so basically you can get the best battery life. ( i believe at least)
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I well 2nd this, chads kernel is the shiz. best graphics, great battery life...wicked fast like a new phone I've said before, hands down best kernel for redemptive
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Installing now. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have an update later on and we'll see where we stand.
The reason I'm hesitant to use KingKlicks is because of a constant bootloop I ran into. And Ziggy was just cool, got some really good quadrant scores on it, but it just ran through battery like nothing. Anyway, thanks again! I'm excited!

I've been using Heyitslou new kernel and battery life is the best since I've owned this phone. I'm also using his Redemptive Revolution ROM.
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk

If you use aosp roms then I would go with invisiblek #17. It's the best that I've found thus far.
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Treken said:
If you use aosp roms then I would go with invisiblek #17. It's the best that I've found thus far.
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Best kernel i have used by far for cm6

I wiped battery stats a few days ago in recovery, and literally every app on my phone started force closing. I had to restore from a backup, and when I did, every app acted like it was the first time I ever loaded it. Had to set up EVERYTHING again. Do as you will, but the ONLY thing I did to cause that garbage was wipe my battery stats. I'd love better battery life too, but I think the software should be capable of relearning your power cycle of a battery if you replace the battery. Can't stay one way forever.. or at least it shouldn't.

does anyone know where I can download KXK #3 or one of his other kernels? I have tried to find them on this site and the ROM manager. Even google's top results are just sending me to theads about the kernels but none have links to the kernel itself. I am going to try using it to get my battery life extended since I really don't mess with my DINC much besides angry birds (addict for life).
Thanks,
JrdnThms

There is a kernel thread floating around here somewhere it has them. I'm on my phone so I can't link but its called the official kernel thread I believe
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[Q] Sprint Lover's Rom..Best Kernal for it?

Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni

mgianni19 said:
Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni
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I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
EVO on Tapatalk

piscesjoey said:
I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
EVO on Tapatalk
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Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.

mgianni19 said:
Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.

PryorDaniel said:
Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?

nck4857 said:
I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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No, and no
Don't use SetCPU with a havs kernel. If you go with one of his nohavs kernels then by all means use SetCPU as you wish. Another thing, just from my personal experience (though it may be different for your phone) the CFS kernels work far better than the BFS kernels. There's a guide around here that explains the difference.
As far as SBC goes, I haven't had any issues yet. I've been using a battery monitor to watch what's going on with my battery and haven't seen anything wrong with it. Another thing I do, just as a small precaution, is not let the phone charge 6-8 hours over-night. I'll let it charge to 100% then let it sit for about 2-3 more hours and call it quits. Don't know if that really does anything, but it makes me feel better so eh.
I know the military (I'm in the Army) uses Lit-ion batteries and trickle charges them without having any of them blow up/fry, however they do lose their ability to hold a charge over time. The fact that they do it, and the only problem has been lifespan of the battery is what convinced me to try an SBC kernel. Just choose whichever you feel comfortable with. It's all preference really.

PryorDaniel said:
Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc is the best from my personal experieince...good battery life and makes choppy roms run a lot more smoothly

nck4857 said:
I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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I've been using that one with no-sbc and it's worked great with the conservative profile. HAVS just deals with what voltage the processor uses at any given time/frequency so you can indeed use setcpu with it. It's the kernels with the built in smartass governor or ROMs using other battery tweaking scripts that don't always work well with setcpu.
And trust me, the military does not trickle charge their li-ions and they only run them at 4.10 volts to extend their life (depending on battery, always less than volts than their commercial counterparts). This I know for certain.

Anyone have a link to the stock kernel
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Guys quick question, with the above mentioned kernel. What frequency does if use when you turn off the screen? I want if to use the lowest possible, does the kernel do it automatically or should I use something like the overlook widget?
Also, can someone please provide instructions how to update the kernel, I haven't looked at the link yet so If there's instructions there that fine.
Thanks

wifi errors
i just flashed to netarchy kernel to my evo. cfs, havs no sbc. when i try to connect to wifi it says error. i used kernal manager to flash the kernal. is there anything i can to do to get the wifi back or do i need to go back to the stock kernel. i am running sprint lovers ROM. any suggestions.

update. when i flashed manually everything worked fine. maybe the kernel manager program has an issue with wiping the cache. not really sure. just thought i should let everyone know.

I would use the stock #15 HTC Kernel but with SBC. Link is in sec post here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590

I've been using netarchy 4.3.4 cfs more havs aggressive sbc with no problems. Amazing battery life and very responsive.

Netarchy's kernels are very stable,if you're up for it try a sbc kernel,great battery life.

sbc
i was just reluctant to try an sbc because of the horror stories i have heard about frying the battery. i guess when i feel lucky i will try it.

[Q] Kernel for Miui

I just flashed the updated Miui ROM onto my friends Incredible (I am improving it for him) and was wondering which kernel would work best with it. I have heard that Tiamat is one to consider, but I don't know if it works the best with Miui.
Thanks in advance!!!!!

Tiamat is great, but I've been really happy with the included kernel. YMMV

PGleo86 said:
Tiamat is great, but I've been really happy with the included kernel. YMMV
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Oh that's right, there is a kernel included with Miui. lol Forgot about that. Does it install automatically when you install Miui, or is there something separate you have to do? I am a Miui noob and just want to make sure I do everything right. And has it improved battery life? That's why I am asking about the kernels.
Guess I'll keep Tiamat on the back burner for now.
Thanks for the response.

DeBaKai said:
Oh that's right, there is a kernel included with Miui. lol Forgot about that. Does it install automatically when you install Miui, or is there something separate you have to do? I am a Miui noob and just want to make sure I do everything right. And has it improved battery life? That's why I am asking about the kernels.
Guess I'll keep Tiamat on the back burner for now.
Thanks for the response.
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No problem! Yeah, it installs along with MIUI. Give it a few days, I think your friend will like it. I'm running it underclocked to 800MHz on the stock kernel and it's smooth as butter

I flashed chads incredikernal. One thing I don't like about the stock kernel is the charge speed. I am currently at 11 hours 19 minutes with 36% remaining on stock Inc battery. I don't mess with any settings, I let it do it's thing.

PGleo86 said:
No problem! Yeah, it installs along with MIUI. Give it a few days, I think your friend will like it. I'm running it underclocked to 800MHz on the stock kernel and it's smooth as butter
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Oh that's cool.
Yeah, I have been playing with it for a few hours and I like it (and I hate everything crapple). I may have to try it on my own phone soon. I am sure he'll love it.
lol Thanks again.
spence341 said:
I flashed chads incredikernal. One thing I don't like about the stock kernel is the charge speed. I am currently at 11 hours 19 minutes with 36% remaining on stock Inc battery. I don't mess with any settings, I let it do it's thing.
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Well, if you charge overnight, then that really isn't that big an issue. But I will definitely put that on my list of kernels to try if my friend isn't satisfied with the Miui one.
Thanks!

I've tried Chad's incredikernel and it was awful. Been using Tiamat for the past couple days. I'm gonna be going back to the included stock kernel that came with MIUI tomorrow. I've gotten the best battery life out of that one. I think it'd be worth it to try out each kernel on your own phone for a couple days. Some kernels may work better on certain phones than others.

kthung said:
I've tried Chad's incredikernel and it was awful. Been using Tiamat for the past couple days. I'm gonna be going back to the included stock kernel that came with MIUI tomorrow. I've gotten the best battery life out of that one. I think it'd be worth it to try out each kernel on your own phone for a couple days. Some kernels may work better on certain phones than others.
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Interesting. I will definitely try them at one point to see for myself, but it seems that the stock Miui kernel is the way to go. I've been playing with it for 2 days now, and I have seen a noticeable increase in the battery life. I am very pleased.
Thanks for the response.

I always flash Chad's Incredikernal after the MIUI update, but this time I'm test driving the (MIUI) stock kernal to see how battery life really compares after a couple of days. You really can't go wrong either way. But, as posted above, YMMV. Good luck!

Incredikernel #1 with IncrediControl app http://www.incredikernel.com/
I try Tiamat every release but always go back to Incredikernel, Incredikernel is so much smoother. Also better benchmark with all apps and no task kill. Pics for proof!!!!
SetCPU min128/998max @ smartass scaling

Also if you are playing with kernels and want to go back to MIUI stock it is the Official CM7.0 version1. Can be downloaded from kernel manager lite(free) in market. Invisiblek version4 is nice to, its based off CM7.1 version2 with smartass added.

Remember when trying new kernels for best results.. Charge until green, then boot into recovery, then advanced and wipe battery stats, then power off and let charge until green and good to go. This gets the results without waiting 3 or 4 days of charging. Also you wont see the unplug and go from 100% to 83% in 15 minutes.

every phone is different. I have been trying to use incredikernel for months and my phone runs like complete garbage with it. I use tiamat and it blows incredikernel out of the water on my dinc. I have no explanation for this and am hoping one day my phone will accept incredikernel. :-(

davwman said:
every phone is different. I have been trying to use incredikernel for months and my phone runs like complete garbage with it. I use tiamat and it blows incredikernel out of the water on my dinc. I have no explanation for this and am hoping one day my phone will accept incredikernel. :-(
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Hmm thats weird, reverse your statement and that's me. I tried to contact Tiamat support and they have no support, I emailed them 4 months ago and nothing. Chad only supports the incredible device so I have gotten response back from him in hours.
I have 4 Incredible's all running incredikernel fine. 2 are on MIUI and other 2 are on CM7.1. Three of them are on version 07062011 and I'm running his beta 2

rlacrossjr said:
Hmm thats weird, I have 4 Incredible's all running incredikernel fine. 2 are on MIUI and other 2 are on CM7.1. Three of them are on version 07062011 and I'm running his beta 2
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4 incredibles???? Wow. My phone reboots and freezes with tiamat. Chads kernel the best for me.
Device is Incredible

Check that, Tried chads latest with miui and nothing but buttery smooth response! Maybe it was rom kernel combos that was borking my phone up. who knows.

tolymatev said:
4 incredibles???? Wow. My phone reboots and freezes with tiamat. Chads kernel the best for me.
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Ya family plan. they were buy one get one free.
MIUI.US 2.15.00.05.02 Radio&Incredikernel.

Wow, where did all these responses come from?
Thanks everyone fro the help!
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I always flash Chad's Incredikernal after the MIUI update, but this time I'm test driving the (MIUI) stock kernal to see how battery life really compares after a couple of days. You really can't go wrong either way. But, as posted above, YMMV. Good luck!
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The Miui kernel is working well. I have seen a noticeable increase in battery life, and I've only been using the regular battery, not the extended. I like.
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Incredikernel #1 with IncrediControl app
www dot incredikernel dot com
I try Tiamat every release but always go back to Incredikernel, Incredikernel is so much smoother. Also better benchmark with all apps and no task kill. Pics for proof!!!!
SetCPU min128/998max @ smartass scaling
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I definitely want to try Tiamat at one point (as well as Incredikernel) but for now the Miui stock kernel is earning it's keep.
rlacrossjr said:
Also if you are playing with kernels and want to go back to MIUI stock it is the Official CM7.0 version1. Can be downloaded from kernel manager lite(free) in market. Invisiblek version4 is nice to, its based off CM7.1 version2 with smartass added.
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I knew that, but thanks none the less. I have it ready to flash when the time comes.
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Remember when trying new kernels for best results.. Charge until green, then boot into recovery, then advanced and wipe battery stats, then power off and let charge until green and good to go. This gets the results without waiting 3 or 4 days of charging. Also you wont see the unplug and go from 100% to 83% in 15 minutes.
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Thanks for the advice. That's going into my self-written Rooter's Bible.

rlacrossjr said:
Remember when trying new kernels for best results.. Charge until green, then boot into recovery, then advanced and wipe battery stats, then power off and let charge until green and good to go. This gets the results without waiting 3 or 4 days of charging. Also you wont see the unplug and go from 100% to 83% in 15 minutes.
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Actually, to recalibrate, this is what I'd recommend.
Charge the phone to 100%
Turn it off. The LED will turn red again, wait for it to turn back to green.
Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
Reboot, then unplug.

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Actually, to recalibrate, this is what I'd recommend.
Charge the phone to 100%
Turn it off. The LED will turn red again, wait for it to turn back to green.
Boot into recovery and wipe battery stats.
Reboot, then unplug.
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Thanks. I'll definitely keep that in mind.