Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni
mgianni19 said:
Hey all,
I just flashed Sprint Lover's ROM and I was wondering what is the best Kernal for this Sense ROM? I really like the stock look, but I would love to improve some performance under the hood.
Any help would be great!
Thank you very much!!!
Gianni
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I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
EVO on Tapatalk
piscesjoey said:
I always use Netarchy's kernel, but what may be good on one phone may also be bad on another phone. I suggest flashing different kernels and testing them out.
EVO on Tapatalk
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Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.
mgianni19 said:
Do you have a link for that Kernal? Would love to test it out.
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Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
PryorDaniel said:
Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
nck4857 said:
I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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No, and no
Don't use SetCPU with a havs kernel. If you go with one of his nohavs kernels then by all means use SetCPU as you wish. Another thing, just from my personal experience (though it may be different for your phone) the CFS kernels work far better than the BFS kernels. There's a guide around here that explains the difference.
As far as SBC goes, I haven't had any issues yet. I've been using a battery monitor to watch what's going on with my battery and haven't seen anything wrong with it. Another thing I do, just as a small precaution, is not let the phone charge 6-8 hours over-night. I'll let it charge to 100% then let it sit for about 2-3 more hours and call it quits. Don't know if that really does anything, but it makes me feel better so eh.
I know the military (I'm in the Army) uses Lit-ion batteries and trickle charges them without having any of them blow up/fry, however they do lose their ability to hold a charge over time. The fact that they do it, and the only problem has been lifespan of the battery is what convinced me to try an SBC kernel. Just choose whichever you feel comfortable with. It's all preference really.
PryorDaniel said:
Go Here for his kernels. I use Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc and so far it's worked amazing on the various ROMs I've used (including Sprint Lovers) but it's worked best for me on Myn's ROMs.
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Netarchy Toastmod - 4.3-cfs-havs-more-sbc is the best from my personal experieince...good battery life and makes choppy roms run a lot more smoothly
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I think I'm gonna flash this kernel tomorrow, but maybe the nosbc so I don't fry my battery... Have you had any issues with the battery with the sbc? And do you use SetCpu with the kernel?
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I've been using that one with no-sbc and it's worked great with the conservative profile. HAVS just deals with what voltage the processor uses at any given time/frequency so you can indeed use setcpu with it. It's the kernels with the built in smartass governor or ROMs using other battery tweaking scripts that don't always work well with setcpu.
And trust me, the military does not trickle charge their li-ions and they only run them at 4.10 volts to extend their life (depending on battery, always less than volts than their commercial counterparts). This I know for certain.
Anyone have a link to the stock kernel
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Guys quick question, with the above mentioned kernel. What frequency does if use when you turn off the screen? I want if to use the lowest possible, does the kernel do it automatically or should I use something like the overlook widget?
Also, can someone please provide instructions how to update the kernel, I haven't looked at the link yet so If there's instructions there that fine.
Thanks
wifi errors
i just flashed to netarchy kernel to my evo. cfs, havs no sbc. when i try to connect to wifi it says error. i used kernal manager to flash the kernal. is there anything i can to do to get the wifi back or do i need to go back to the stock kernel. i am running sprint lovers ROM. any suggestions.
update. when i flashed manually everything worked fine. maybe the kernel manager program has an issue with wiping the cache. not really sure. just thought i should let everyone know.
I would use the stock #15 HTC Kernel but with SBC. Link is in sec post here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876590
I've been using netarchy 4.3.4 cfs more havs aggressive sbc with no problems. Amazing battery life and very responsive.
Netarchy's kernels are very stable,if you're up for it try a sbc kernel,great battery life.
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i was just reluctant to try an sbc because of the horror stories i have heard about frying the battery. i guess when i feel lucky i will try it.
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I need my battery to last a full day with medium use. What is the best ROM/Kernel combination I should use?
i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel.
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I use Fresh 3.2 w/ netarch's Kernel w/ full 60fps unlock. I used my phone all day and still had 30% by 9pm starting 11am. Facetubing, gtalk, voice calls, internet, rss, time checking.
I've flashed a kernel before, but never knew if I was underclocked/overclocked. I flashed King 7 or whatever.
ms79723 said:
i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
Could I use the BSK #6 with Fresh?
Ok I went to the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
And the link for Kernel 6 is not there, only 1-5
Dude, it might be the booze talking, but you got this thread on lock down. I couldn't have said it better than myself, what other dev has both a sick ROM and a sick Kernel like its nothing? I am still surprised dudes leaked his stuff because he gave all that stuff up no questions. And that is saying a lot because other dev's have better rom's with stock kernels. but the combo's and choices hero comes out with is what makes android android
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Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
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You can underclock the kernel included in Fresh. And I do not see a point in OCing for 12%. The 1Ghz is plenty.
ms79723 said:
i think fresh is supposed to be the best battery wise...but the negative is that you have to use its kernel. and its kernel doesnt allow overclocking/underclocking with apps such as setcpu and it also has the 30fps cap.
but if battery is what you need go for it. i also say go for it if you've never flashed a kernel to remove the 30fps. if you've never flashed a kernel to move the cap you wouldnt be able to tell the difference
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I downloaded Backed snacks, but there is no link for the kernel #6
Where do you download the Kernel #6 I can only download up to 5 as well.
jerryparid said:
Most ROMs are built on the same HTC OTA releases (except for CM6, which has worse battery life than HTC OTA's); kernels are usually the thing that differentiates their battery life.
Fresh uses the leaked OTA stock kernel. You can probably flash this kernel to any regular OTA based rom.
...but the HTC Kernel has NOTHING on Backed Snacks Kernel #6. Go read the Baked Snacks thread thread. The battery life is literally ridiculous with Kernel #6.
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Umm sorry my cm6 battery life is great I get avg 22-25 hours per charge with medium use far more than I have gotten with any sense rom besides baked snacks. Om testing the new flipz rom for a few days since i hear great things about the kernal
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In my opinion:
If you do not need 4G, CyanogenMod v6 with Snap kernel v7.5 would be your best bet.
If you do need or want 4G, Fresh EVO v3.2.0.0 would be your best bet.
Of all the sense roms i've tried, baked snacked seemed to have the best battery life of them all even beating out fresh 3.2 imo
Can someone point me into the direction to where I can flash something that will make SetCPu work with Fresh?
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Can someone point me into the direction to where I can flash something that will make SetCPu work with Fresh?
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Setcpu works just fine with fresh im running it now
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So Baked Snack Roms Nd Kernals Are the best battery life? I switched from his baked snacks 1.2.15 because it was missing vital features but how's the battery life on his latest 1.7 updated version is anyone using that rom nd kernal?
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Leave your wifi on all day connected to wherever you are. It's the 3g data that uses much of the power. I keep my work and my job's wifi remembered and get 20 hrs on a charge with medium/heavy use on stock 2.2. If no access to wifi most of the day, this won't help you.
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Sporkman said:
Setcpu works just fine with fresh im running it now
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Oh okay because I thought that the phone couldn't go further than 30 fps. Thanks i'm downloading it now.
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Oh okay because I thought that the phone couldn't go further than 30 fps. Thanks i'm downloading it now.
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The 30 FPS limit and SetCPU are two different things. SetCPU will allow you to overclock/underclock your phone's CPU. The 30 FPS limit is a video limitation and will need a kernel to remove.
I'm currently running Baked Snack 1.7 and I believe his stock kernel. I get about 14-15 hours with medium/heavy use.
Will be checking out kernel #6 later today.
I've searched but everything seems either old or non-existent. What are some of the kernels you all are using and how do you like them? Any you preferred over another? Any you recommend?
I'm currently using Salvagezen .2 CFS noSBC and it seems pretty good as far as battery life. I have previously used Tiamat, but I'm not really sure of the differences between these 2 other than obviously the developer.
FYI I'm using CM7 nightly
heres a link to my current kernel http://mirror.munkibizness.com/?nosbc
i find savagedzen's kernels are the very best there are, and i'd keep using them. if you are having problems, just say so and the team will get you sorted out in no time (yes, they are that good)
I have had a lot of luck with Netarchy's 4.3.2 series. Depending on your hardware, you will have different luck also. They seem to be real stable and have gotten me 17+ hrs. I use the heck out of my phone though.
I've also been using Netarchys kernel, but SBC. Definite improvement, never had a battery overheat.
I might try netarchy. I'm pretty sure I want noSBC just to be on the safe side. As far as the undervolting, havs, etc, I'm not sure what I want. The latest CM7 nightly stock kernel has been giving me greatly battery life lately though, so I might not even need to change.
zamboniman87 said:
I've searched but everything seems either old or non-existent. What are some of the kernels you all are using and how do you like them? Any you preferred over another? Any you recommend?
I'm currently using Salvagezen .2 CFS noSBC and it seems pretty good as far as battery life. I have previously used Tiamat, but I'm not really sure of the differences between these 2 other than obviously the developer.
FYI I'm using CM7 nightly
heres a link to my current kernel http://mirror.munkibizness.com/?nosbc
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If you haven't done so, try the one in the signature...
Netarchy toastmod 4.3.2-cfs -nohavs-noSBC-noUV
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zamboniman87 said:
I might try netarchy. I'm pretty sure I want noSBC just to be on the safe side. As far as the undervolting, havs, etc, I'm not sure what I want. The latest CM7 nightly stock kernel has been giving me greatly battery life lately though, so I might not even need to change.
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Just make sure that you don't try Netarchy's kernels while you're still on CM7. Net's kernels are for Sense roms only, and you flash a sense kernel to an AOSP rom, you're definitely not going to have a solid experience. Stick with aosp kernels while on aosp roms.
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Just make sure that you don't try Netarchy's kernels while you're still on CM7. Net's kernels are for Sense roms only, and you flash a sense kernel to an AOSP rom, you're definitely not going to have a solid experience. Stick with aosp kernels while on aosp roms.
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oh good point! thanks.
I'm currently running Cyanogenmod, but I listen to music at least a few hours a day, and its really draining my battery. Any suggestions for a good AOSP rom for battery life, outside of MIUI and Cyanogenmod? Thanks!
Try the new savaged Zen kernel..
SENT FROM THE BATHROOM AT WORK...
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Try the new savaged Zen kernel..
SENT FROM THE BATHROOM AT WORK...
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do not use the 1.0.0 kernel or you will get nasty audio quality if volume is > 50%
SZ 0.2.1 is getting me a lot of battery life. there is salvage mod 1.1 as well
I haven't done a whole lot of kernel flashing before, SZ is compatible with Cyanogenmod I take it?
Are you looking for Rome or kernels?....cus Tom's I wouldn't know but the tiamat kernel in my sig for AOSP roms works really well...SBC and non-SBC available
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I am getting REALLY good results with CM7 and Tiamat. I don't do a ton of music listening but I do put medium to heavy use on it and I am nowhere near having to charge it end of day.
Thanks guys, I'm gonna try out tiamat then!
Beast, I see you're using SBC, how about you blizzard? I'm a little concerned to try the SBC one.
If you're using pandora, slacker, or some other music streaming app your battery will suffer pretty much regardless of whatever kernel you're using.
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SavagedZen is he best for ASOP in my experience, but anyone can have great battery life just by turning off data/WiFi, etc when you aren't using it.
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Thanks guys, I'm gonna try out tiamat then!
Beast, I see you're using SBC, how about you blizzard? I'm a little concerned to try the SBC one.
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I am on the nonsbc one, I usually disregard the warnings as I am fairly comfortable in flashing and such but when it states actual damage possible that's where I stop.
That's just me though, some people seem to have great success with it.
If you do a little research, the 8 reports of damage from sbc kernels came from the very early days of sbc development.
It's all I use and I haven't had a problem.
Maybe I'm just lucky
HipKat said:
If you do a little research, the 8 reports of damage from sbc kernels came from the very early days of sbc development.
It's all I use and I haven't had a problem.
Maybe I'm just lucky
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Yea don't get me wrong, I know they are probably safe to use or the devs wouldn't put them out as final builds. I just personally don't use them.
Visit HERE. Also, I've been using sbc since they first arrived on the seen. I've yet to have any problems so I suppose everyone is different.
I run this rom, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-htc-...rom-gingerbread-evo-deck-rc6-real-stable.html
And this kernel, http://mirror.savaged-zen.com/
with great results.
What you guys think for best battery life no sbc kernel bad for battery looking for a good kernel to run with elite 3 and virus airborne beta. Been using net kernel latest no cfs no sbc no suv bfs did try one ziggy kernel on older 5.4 airborne Rom.thanks finally figured out how to get sense running on airborne beta .
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What you guys think for best battery life no sbc kernel bad for battery looking for a good kernel to run with elite 3 and virus airborne beta. Been using net kernel latest no cfs no sbc no suv bfs did try one ziggy kernel on older 5.4 airborne Rom.thanks finally figured out how to get sense running on airborne beta .
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HERE you can compare kernels. But i personally like a kernel that more aggressive. Netarchys Kernels & Ziggy's Kernels
You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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kd0axs said:
You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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Which is better net cfs havs more no sbc or all no with cfs
reaper24 said:
Which is better net cfs havs more no sbc or all no with cfs
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Personally bfs doesnt play well with my phone so stay with cfs. try each for a day and compare notes.
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You will have to experiment on your own and see what works best for you. Every phone reacts differently to kernels.
Personally, I have the best luck with Netarchy kernels. Ziggy kernels are completely unstable for me to the point where my system freezes up and I have to pull the battery.
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Im using the net more havs hope it doesn't hurt my phone . Thanks what Rom u using . I'm on airborne
ive tried all kinda kernels, nets and ziggys in my opinion are the best. right now im using nets newest 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) i get Really good battery life and evrything seems to mesh well. but from what ive been reading not all kernels work the same for different phones.
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ive tried all kinda kernels, nets and ziggys in my opinion are the best. right now im using nets newest 4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc (More Aggressive HAVS) i get Really good battery life and evrything seems to mesh well. but from what ive been reading not all kernels work the same for different phones.
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Got onto the Elite 3 ROM the other day and LOVE it! However, its absolutely chewing through my battery life (extended batteries). Went from getting at very least 12 hours on MikFroyo 4.5 & stock kernel to now sitting at 63% after 3 hours! Was using Juice Defender for a bit until this kernel. lots of people said not to with havs.
Using Nets 4.3.4 cfs nosbc haves more with Konis Elite Series 3.
Have also got Setcpu running at smartass (also tried on demand) st 245/740ish and have one screen off profile set to 245/245 powersave.
Need to find a fix because I want to stay on this ROM.
I know I'm noobish so I apologize in advance if this question is dumb.
My phone is rooted and has sprintlovers 2.2 ROM, I wanted HDMI to work on my phone as it didn't with stock kernel so I tried netarchys newest offering something like 4.3.4 no HAVS no static UV. This kernel hated my phone. It was very slow both in feeling and in benchmark testing.
Then I downloaded teamwins offering for HDMI acceleration something along the lines of poonsense. This works great on my phone and also now hdmi app works.
Kernel I have now is listed as [email protected] # 17
What I want is the kernel I have now with the ability to overclock. I use the 1-1-1 Power Management System (see signature) so my phone is never on the charger and I don't need extra battery life so I'm more concerned with performance but would prefer if battery life was only minimally affected.
Anyone have any suggestions on a sense kernel that is near stock but has HDMI acceleration support and overclocking both in one? I looked around but was not having luck. Thanks- Brandon
Not exactly sure, but you can try the savaged-zen kernels.
I do believe the savagezen kernels are only for aosp; ive actually used this netarchy CFS NO-sbc Have LESS with HDMI and it works nice. Some phones don't like the kernels with aggressive havs or undervolting. If youre having battery issues you might want to downgrade your prl and nv from 1.90 to 1.77.
http://qap.la/~netarchy/netarchy-toastmod-4.3.4-cfs-havs-less-nosbc-universal-signed.zip
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I do believe the savagezen kernels are only for aosp; ive actually used this netarchy CFS NO-sbc Have LESS with HDMI and it works nice. Some phones don't like the kernels with aggressive havs or undervolting.
http://qap.la/~netarchy/netarchy-toastmod-4.3.4-cfs-havs-less-nosbc-universal-signed.zip
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Ah yes, that is true. Good catch.
dirkyd3rk said:
I do believe the savagezen kernels are only for aosp; ive actually used this netarchy CFS NO-sbc Have LESS with HDMI and it works nice. Some phones don't like the kernels with aggressive havs or undervolting. If youre having battery issues you might want to downgrade your prl and nv from 1.90 to 1.77.
http://qap.la/~netarchy/netarchy-toastmod-4.3.4-cfs-havs-less-nosbc-universal-signed.zip
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Thanks for all the replies.
I am not having battery issues to my knowledge.
The netarchy kernel I tried had neither havs or undervolting, it was the standard 4.3.4 kernel and it ran very badly. Unless it is possible to get a bad flash I think its not so compatible with my phone which is why I want the kernel I have now or something similar but with overclock option.
Anyone else have any suggestions? Is it *reasonably* possible that I got a bad file or flash of the netarchy beta? If so I may try it again as it has both features I want.
Did you flash 4.3.4 CFS or BFS? If you flashed CFS, try re-downloading it and re-flashing. If that doesn't work, try BFS. If you flashed BFS, I would still try downloading and flashing CFS and flashing that.
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Did you flash 4.3.4 CFS or BFS? If you flashed CFS, try re-downloading it and re-flashing. If that doesn't work, try BFS. If you flashed BFS, I would still try downloading and flashing CFS and flashing that.
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Unfortunately there is not a 4.3.4 netarchy kernel yet that is BFS, there is just CFS at this time. I may try to redownload it but I have to be honest I have a feeling I will get the same results I guess if there is a chance there isnt much to lose right?
I actually thought about that, but was too lazy to check if there was a BFS or not. but, I have had bad downloads before. Strange that your phone doesn't like that kernel though, dont here that too often.
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I actually thought about that, but was too lazy to check if there was a BFS or not. but, I have had bad downloads before. Strange that your phone doesn't like that kernel though, dont here that too often.
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I just flashed the netarchy kernel earlier today and it works great now. Must have been a bad download or flash???
Anyhow, I'm happy now I will probably try the HAVS versions now.