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Sprint TP2 confirmed! Pictures included

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-sprint-spotted-in-the-wild-mid-june-release/
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187569
all I can say is, WOW! Wish I had sprint right now

Roflcopterrr said:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...-sprint-spotted-in-the-wild-mid-june-release/
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187569
all I can say is, WOW! Wish I had sprint right now
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not me. they, as expected, removed the front camera, and i dont really care for the new color/look of it. Im still getting an unlocked one.

Looks cool to me. The back cover looks funky! Shame about the front camera tho.

Lyian said:
not me. they, as expected, removed the front camera, and i dont really care for the new color/look of it. Im still getting an unlocked one.
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Does any US carrier leave the front camera on any of their devices?
I'm surprised there's still no word on it from at&t...

fone_fanatic said:
Does any US carrier leave the front camera on any of their devices?
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No, because none of them support video calling.

ajbopp said:
No, because none of them support video calling.
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Any of them can support it. The real reason they don't leave them in is because they don't want video calls lagging up their network. They don't have enough of a 3G foundation in place to feel secure with the concept. As long as the software is available (and it is), we could have it. I don't blame them, but it still pisses me off that I can't have it.

Poke_N_PDA said:
Any of them can support it. The real reason they don't leave them in is because they don't want video calls lagging up their network. They don't have enough of a 3G foundation in place to feel secure with the concept. As long as the software is available (and it is), we could have it. I don't blame them, but it still pisses me off that I can't have it.
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I wouldnt even use it over 3g, if i were to use it, id only be over wi-fi in hotspots. In all realness, i doubt id even use that camrea much, but i just hate it when i see one device, that has removed features for (what equates to) the same price.

The front camera isn't much of a big deal really. Don't let it stop you from getting the phone. It looks really cool. I won't mind having it but it doesn't support our 2100 3G networks. . I hardly use my fron camera on the HD. The novelty wears off really quicky. Also video calls cost a lot and you need to be on the same network to get cheaper calls. I only used it once to test it out and never used it again. Mainly because most of my friends won't take video calls cos it cost them money. LOL.

Damn, Mid June?? Thats right around the corner! Looks like Sprint is corning the market in June of 2009. Time to buy some Sprint stock.... weeeeeeeeee
Then sell it!!!

Well, with the 2 hottest QWERTY handsets out this June (Palm Pre and TP2), I am sure Sprint will be very popular this summer.

I am soooooooo happy about this. With this being a CDMA/GSM Hybrid I'll get to have my cake (Sprint) and eat it too (the world)!

Hehehhe! As far as video calling goes, do we really need it? No, I mean, who are we going to call that actually has video calling in the US? May be a handful of business users MIGHT have it on a hard line. Engadget is reporting on a June release for the TP2 but (hold your horses, bad news) this FCC doc https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=1113590&native_or_pdf=pdf clearly states a confidentiality release date of October 31st, 2009! Weird, huh? I mean, things change but I still think it'll be a Q4 release like originally anticipated (leaked for internal Sprint roadmap earlier)

I suspect that's business as usual, though I don't know for sure. But it would make sense to request that sort of thing for several months past the release date as a contingency for a last minute need for change of plans regarding rollout. I don't see this as in any way restricting a carrier or HTC from releasing the phone before the date stated.

sino8r said:
Hehehhe! As far as video calling goes, do we really need it? No, I mean, who are we going to call that actually has video calling in the US?
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for me, thats not so much the point as, i just dont like features, useful or not, being taken away from something with out it being replaced by something else.. and sorry, a sprint/t-mobile/att logo isn't an adequate replacement for a camera. Maybe i wont use it, but i always like it when something is there, and not use it, rather than if something wasn't their, and i needed it.

Does anyone else think the release date is suspect? I want some confirmation first from Sprint as it would make no sense to release 2 smartphones like the Pre and TP2 in the same release time frame, they would hurt each other's sales. Also, Palm has been known for business devices, so saying the Pre is consumer based and the TP2 is business focused would not sell it for me...I'm sure hoping this isn't like when people rumored the Pre as early as April and it got pushed back little by little...personally I can't stand my TP any more as I'm having major problems and would do anything to trade it in for a TP2 sooner instead of later (may have to resort to a Pre if the TP2 doesn't truly come in June).

fadywwf316 said:
Does anyone else think the release date is suspect? I want some confirmation first from Sprint as it would make no sense to release 2 smartphones like the Pre and TP2 in the same release time frame, they would hurt each other's sales. Also, Palm has been known for business devices, so saying the Pre is consumer based and the TP2 is business focused would not sell it for me...I'm sure hoping this isn't like when people rumored the Pre as early as April and it got pushed back little by little...personally I can't stand my TP any more as I'm having major problems and would do anything to trade it in for a TP2 sooner instead of later (may have to resort to a Pre if the TP2 doesn't truly come in June).
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It was confirmed by Sprint, in a roundabout way, when this was first announced. A Sprint employee said a high level Sprint sales rep demo'd the phone, and said the release date was June.
Sprint is apparently coming out with the Pre, Snap, and TP2 all within a few weeks of each other. This does make sense if you think about it, because they are all very different form factors and each is likely to appeal to different sorts of customers (I wouldn't touch the Pre or Snap with a 10 foot pole - Pre has an untried, little supported OS, and Snap has a keyboard design I personally can't stand - But I can't wait to get my hands on the TP2). It's unlikely, I think, that they will hurt each other's sales. If Sprint can generate some real mass enthusiasm across three different phone styles all at the same, it's probably going to be to Sprint's benefit to have all the buzz being around them instead of the other guys.
Marketing guys will tell you it will even be an advantage to have negative buzz ("love the Pre but they are sold out till August! Dammit!"). No such thing as bad publicity and all.
Sprint really needs to get people talking about them, and not Verizon and AT&T. I think this stands a good chance of being a brilliant strategy.

Valicore said:
I am soooooooo happy about this. With this being a CDMA/GSM Hybrid I'll get to have my cake (Sprint) and eat it too (the world)!
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And this is the thing that finally pushed me over the edge. I end up using CDMA locally and GSM on the road, and I have always kept two phones around: this will *finally* put an end to this. 'Cause honestly, it would be hard to justify the purchase absent that: the hardware underpinning the device is nearly the same as my Touch Pro.

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And this is the thing that finally pushed me over the edge. I end up using CDMA locally and GSM on the road, and I have always kept two phones around: this will *finally* put an end to this. 'Cause honestly, it would be hard to justify the purchase absent that: the hardware underpinning the device is nearly the same as my Touch Pro.
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unless you mean "on the road" as in foreign countries, I think the GSM radio will be disabled except outside of the US according to the fcc filing.

Free country
ckeegan said:
unless you mean "on the road" as in foreign countries, I think the GSM radio will be disabled except outside of the US according to the fcc filing.
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I so sure the fine folks of the hacking and unlocking communities wont let that go, we should have the best of both worlds in the same country -----ITS A FREE COUNTRY!! HOOK IT UP BARACK!!!!

from what i've learned by poking around the CDMA phones require a different firmware correct? among other small things?
i would assume this means less support since it seems like a majority of the genius's here use GSM phones.
right wrong? just being silly?

What is sprints stance on locking phones down?

A thought occurred to me recently: With Sprint becoming closer to Google lately (GV and Nexus S,) and their commitment to unlimited data (as well as mentioning that you could use the 4g network to replace your home broadband connection,) what is the likelihood of them not demanding that the handset manufacturers tightly lock down their phones?
Reason I ask is because on the Verizon network their android phones are being locked heavily from users rooting or replacing the roms on their phones. Motorola phones are especially bad with this, and HTC is starting to follow suit. But who is to blame, the handset manufacturer, or the carrier?
I know the google branded phones have been traditionally open to modification, even providing a hidden menu with a warranty disclaimer for doing just that. However that was with T-Mobil who has been very open with google in the past (and is about to be AT&Tized.)
I don't suppose anybody with any inside knowledge of sprint has anything to comment on this subject? It would be a very relevant question for those on this forum who are planning on buying the Evo 3D or the Nexus S, and planning on modifying them.

Rakeesh_j said:
A thought occurred to me recently: With Sprint becoming closer to Google lately (GV and Nexus S,) and their commitment to unlimited data (as well as mentioning that you could use the 4g network to replace your home broadband connection,) what is the likelihood of them not demanding that the handset manufacturers tightly lock down their phones?
Reason I ask is because on the Verizon network their android phones are being locked heavily from users rooting or replacing the roms on their phones. Motorola phones are especially bad with this, and HTC is starting to follow suit. But who is to blame, the handset manufacturer, or the carrier?
I know the google branded phones have been traditionally open to modification, even providing a hidden menu with a warranty disclaimer for doing just that. However that was with T-Mobil who has been very open with google in the past (and is about to be AT&Tized.)
I don't suppose anybody with any inside knowledge of sprint has anything to comment on this subject? It would be a very relevant question for those on this forum who are planning on buying the Evo 3D or the Nexus S, and planning on modifying them.
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I don't think "the people" with the information would want to openly post that "Sprint' doesn't care about rooting" because the fact is that they do. However, HTC was locked down because, in my opinion, it's a Verizon phone (thunderbolt)

DirtyShroomz said:
because the fact is that they do.
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Where have they stated this? And for what reasons have they specifically noted?

I'm pretty sure he works for sprint
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

He does work for Sprint lol, he's our local Sprint guy.
They do care if you root your phone because it voids the warranty, but I do not believe they take the same attitude toward it that Verizon does. I hope it stays that way.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
He does work for Sprint lol, he's our local Sprint guy.
They do care if you root your phone because it voids the warranty, but I do not believe they take the same attitude toward it that Verizon does. I hope it stays that way.
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yea completely true notice as of late the only two phones outta HTC that have signature verifications is the Thunderbolt and Incredible S which both belong to Verizon
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
but for now only time will tell

Verizon has always locked down their phones, I don't see the NS being as locked down, well have to see with the new evo.

phatmanxxl said:
Verizon has always locked down their phones, I don't see the NS being as locked down, well have to see with the new evo.
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the nexus will not be locked down as it's a pure google phone. sprint will not have a say in this.

Nexus S is a Dev phone....most likely won't be locked down. Pretty sure Evo 3D won't be either. Sprint isn't a dictatorship.

djnarcotics said:
yea completely true notice as of late the only two phones outta HTC that have signature verifications is the Thunderbolt and Incredible S which both belong to Verizon
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/19/htc-thunderbolt-rooted-for-real-locked-files-nearly-sour-the-de/
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
but for now only time will tell
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Wrong. The Incredible S is NOT on Verizon. It is a GSM phone. The Verizon version is supposed to be called the Incredible 2 evidently.
So its not just a Verizon thing here and we can toss that reasoning for why they are locked out the window for now.

true... all i know is, we will have same full root in no time.

sgt. slaughter said:
Wrong. The Incredible S is NOT on Verizon. It is a GSM phone. The Verizon version is supposed to be called the Incredible 2 evidently.
So its not just a Verizon thing here and we can toss that reasoning for why they are locked out the window for now.
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There is a CDMA version of it out there somewhere too. Although it is still probably a moot point.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11555752&postcount=133

Fared Adib on The Engadget Show
For the 1st 25 minutes or so, Fared Adib (Development Lead for Sprint) speaks about Sprint devices and network. At about the 9 minute mark he speaks about your question. But keep in mind, this is a show with geeks, so he is going to spin doctor the question to please the crowd. But I think he may have known about the Nexus S at that point coming to Sprint considering this aired 22 November when the Nexus S was getting rumors of release dates for TMO. Do I think they will lock down future phones? Probably, but I like the fact that they have given Sprint customers an option for pure customization. Here is the link for the show that aired.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/22/the-engadget-show-015-sprints-fared-adib-google-tv-creator/

xHausx said:
There is a CDMA version of it out there somewhere too. Although it is still probably a moot point.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11555752&postcount=133
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yeah i know. just stating that just b/c the incridible S is locked doesn't mean its b/c VZ. And the likelihood of HTC doing this is greater since we see a phone on another network get locked.
Hopefully Sprint asks them to not do this to make it easier on you and the other dev's though.

take this with a grain of salt.....
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This Guy is called bluescreen and he works for sprint and here his what he had to say..
I wanted to express my appreciation to all who have been posting with excellent ideas/concerns with respect to next generation EVO. The show will answer most of the burning question out there, but remember, the cat is not out of the bag yet! So keep up with your wish list as we did with the original EVO almost a year ago. I am positive we will be working on fit and finish until launch day.
I am still packing spread sheets, data reports, and presentation for the big show. I am sure you all can understand this is a busy time. I'll be away for a bit during that period. I'll still throw out some bites from my EVO 4G of course, but were confident the show will have most of the important questions answered.
I will be focusing more on the technical aspects. There is no way a person could stand on stage and talk about DLNA for 20+min. and cover other important aspect of the device.
Let's quash some rumors up front. The screen will be 4.3in Qhd 3d screen. The actual form factor of the EVO 3d will measure up a bit smaller. Good thing for those still wearing jeans with small pockets. We couldn't shrink the over all size that much, because we understand that people want protective cases and we didn’t want this to interfere with the touch screen. The feeling is we have a good balance, where you guys feel as though it's just one big screen in your hand, but very portable. I can say it works really well when playing around with the 3D camera's. Move the camera's in and out when video recording a person face, it does an excellent job of making the face appear as though it is protruding out of EVO 3D's qhd screen. (Weird, especially if it's Dan H)
Big news that nobody is talking about is DLNA and DRM.
DRM: EVOtees have been clammering for Netflix, Hulu, and Blockbuster. You all know that it’s been slow going due to DRM issues. This will not be the case with EVO 3D. Scorpion chipset and some back door work not only enabled this, but polished to a point of being effortless. DRM validation is instantaneous. You go to your favorite Digital content provider, handshakes with DRM on your EVO 3D and your done. Login to your account, your streaming! I thought it was a load of you know what with original EVO. Original EVO will have this feature as well.
DLNA: This technology has been out for some time, but I feel sense UI 2.0 has been able to put the polish it needs to shine. The DRM issue resolved, DLNA will not only allow for digital content to stream to EVO 3D, but to any DLNA certified HDTV/PC monitor/DLNA Mobile device. I am sure your asking what does that mean and how does it apply to us? (Example) Sitting in a local coffee shop, your friend is sporting HTC View tab and you HTC EVO 3D. You ask if your friend has seen this movie.(No) You say start up HTC Media Link and we can check out together. Both of you are watching the same movie on your "OWN" device having a cup of Joe.
HTC Media link will be incorperated in both View and EVO. So far we have tested and ran. 720p/1080p/BMP/GIF/JPEG/XVID/3GP/WMV/MPEG4/H.263/H.264 video formats and Audio: WMA/AAC/MP3/ACC+
So far we are just working on the GUI for improved user interface. Functionality certified, and expected at launch.
Root: I know there is concern out there that "I don't want to have to root my EVO to do XYZ" Every effort is being made to include everything possible up front for EVO 3D right out of the box. (Netflix, Hulu, Full hdmi mirroring, and HTC Media Link) I still need acknowledge Dev community. They have not only kept EVO 4G fresh, vibrant, but more importantly relevant. We want to respect the efforts of the DEV community and honor why android OS is about choice. That is why EVO 3D will not be shipping with a boot loader lock.
Bluetooth: larger library, we herd, we listen, and we going to deliver. (fingers crossed) We are in the process of setting up a library targeting specifically for k/b, mouse, and yes game pads. I mentioned in an early post w/new sense UI 2.0 EVO 3D will be more at home than ever in landscape mode. We have simultaneously used bluetooth k/b mouse combo with DLNA in the back ground. You can look up Netflix movies w/mouse/kb and stream it to DLNA HDTV. We’ve been listening.
I know on the thread somebody mentioned they would like more on board memory cause XYZ phone has 16gig on board memory. Cost is important factor to consider, because we know we need to make EVO 3D appealing to everyone. Most devices with a 16gig, 32gig, have the option of a removable sdcard. DRM improvements has allowed us to enhance app2sd. Once again, were early in the game as silicon improves, it's a simple matter of swapping out die's. So there is a potential of improvement, if we can do it, and keep cost to the consumer in mind, it will happen. I am sure you all have herd of 128gig sdcard and were working on getting that implemented for original EVO through either the Dev community or OTA. EVO 3D can't talk about that.
fps lock: Not on EVO 3D. Dual core processors, larger battery, more efficient Adreno GPU made this a non issue.
Last but not least, on a lighter note, EVO 3D printing money? Not in our life time! Sprint does have some great programs supporting EVO 3D, like $125 dollars off to port over a new cell number, premier customer program, and mail in rebate. That is about as close EVO 3D will get to printing money! (Enjoyed YouTube Clip too.)
Now it’s time for a fine scotch/cigar and catch a plane in the morning.
Enjoy the show! Cheers,
BSOD(>-_0<)
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Would seem like Sprint will be soon the carrier to go for all things developers.

After the success of the 1st evo here on XDA, I can't see them locking the boot loader and screwing up their reputation...idk just my 2 cents

mustangboy88 said:
For the 1st 25 minutes or so, Fared Adib (Development Lead for Sprint) speaks about Sprint devices and network. At about the 9 minute mark he speaks about your question. But keep in mind, this is a show with geeks, so he is going to spin doctor the question to please the crowd. But I think he may have known about the Nexus S at that point coming to Sprint considering this aired 22 November when the Nexus S was getting rumors of release dates for TMO. Do I think they will lock down future phones? Probably, but I like the fact that they have given Sprint customers an option for pure customization. Here is the link for the show that aired.
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Does sound like they want to be root friendly given Adib's comments, and if O.M.J's post is to be believed (he did say take it with a grain of salt) then that would pretty much nail it. Hopefully this is all true.

Rakeesh_j said:
Does sound like they want to be root friendly given Adib's comments, and if O.M.J's post is to be believed (he did say take it with a grain of salt) then that would pretty much nail it. Hopefully this is all true.
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OMJ's post is quoting the BSOD buy on the other forum that is in the process of being a complete fraud according to a lot of people.
hence the grain of salt

Sprint
Sprint has no plans on locking any phones down. Even With sprint getting closer to Google. : ) I know this because i work for sprint lol.

[Q] NFC? Does anyone besides me care?

I haven't seen any information regarding a NFC chip in the Sensation. Does anyone know anything one way or another? I had wanted NFC before yesterday and after watching the Google I/O videos about the NFC capabilities that they are building into Ice Cream Sandwich, my thoughts are strengthening. That being said, I have been waiting for the Sensation for months, but without NFC, I am not as sure any more. Am I the only one who feels this way?

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I haven't seen any information regarding a NFC chip in the Sensation. Does anyone know anything one way or another? I had wanted NFC before yesterday and after watching the Google I/O videos about the NFC capabilities that they are building into Ice Cream Sandwich, my thoughts are strengthening. That being said, I have been waiting for the Sensation for months, but without NFC, I am not as sure any more. Am I the only one who feels this way?
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I heard a while back there is research into creating separate NFC modules that you can stick inside the case of the phone, but I don't know any more than that or how it'd connect.

I'll start caring about NFC when that technology will see wide implementation. By then, I'm sure it'll be time to upgrade my phone anyway. NFC is about as important to me as the resolution of the front-facing camera. I've used the FFC on my MT4G about 3-4 times, just for novelty purposes. I'm well aware that many others feel otherwise, but it's a completely useless feature to me.

JBuckets said:
I haven't seen any information regarding a NFC chip in the Sensation. Does anyone know anything one way or another? I had wanted NFC before yesterday and after watching the Google I/O videos about the NFC capabilities that they are building into Ice Cream Sandwich, my thoughts are strengthening. That being said, I have been waiting for the Sensation for months, but without NFC, I am not as sure any more. Am I the only one who feels this way?
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While I would like the sensation to have NFC capabilities I am not overly concerned. I don't think the infrastructure for it will be fully deployed within the next 2 years. By that time I will most likely get another phone which should have NFC if it works out as well as planned. This does however depends on location, pretty sure certain places will get it before others.
This is the latest information I have seen regarding HTC's NFC plans.
"HTC’s latest flagship Smartphone HTC Sensation yet to be reach it’s potential customer, a sales manager from HTC confirmed HTC planning to bring NFC-capable high-end smartphone to market in the 3rd quarter of 2011 which would be the successor of HTC Sensation."
sorry can't post links yet.

While I agree that using NFC for purchases is a long way off, it looks like Google has big plans for it in other ways with Ice Cream Sandwhich. Kind of like an enhanced "Bump", sharing content, contacts, applications, etc. plus they will have API's and are encouraging application developers to use the functionality. I tend to wait my full two years between phones, and with this functionality coming out by winter, a part of me feels that it might be worth the wait.

What's the clamour for NFC? I have 2 NFC "devices" both of which are credit card size and shape. It not like current NFC devices are going to add a load of bulk to what you carry around!

To answer the OP's question, no the Sensation does not have NFC. An HTC insider has already made it known that a device slightly superior to the Sensation is coming later in the year with NFC.
I agree with kgbkny, once there's a decent use for it, I'll get a device that has NFC. I don't even know if I'll get much milage out of the Sensation's FFC .

Well Nfc not important I live in the USA lol haven't even see anything Nfc capable here. So I really don't care about it. Even when we do get it I probably will never use it.
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NFC is kinda fail in the US so far. i haven't seen much. Don't tell me about how if phones start having it, it will sprout up everywhere. MAYBE. These tech trends will take a long time to come into fashion in the backwardsass US. That's why I don't really care.
To me, until some giant force (usually Apple) starts embracing it, we won't see it for a while. Android's too fragmented and until devices across the board start featuring it, I see this like the LED Flash. LED flash phones have been out since 2004. How long did it take to really reach the US and become a standard? WAY TOO LONG.

Galaxy Nexus no longer being released on the 9th in the US?

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.

if it doesnt launch friday ill be buying something else, i'm getting sick of using my cracked thunderbolt and even more sick of waiting

I don't think they ever officially stated a day. I've thought for a while that they would release it with some clause that said no worry free guarantee exchanges for this device since a lot of people are planning on returning their razr or rezound too.. we'll see.
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I called Verizon yesterday, the 1800#, and they confirmed the 9th, so this has to be a change if true

I can't wait until this thing is released, not because I want to get it but so these threads will end.
Wait for it or buy online like most people did here

psufan5 said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/07/galaxy-nexus-no-longer-launching-on-december-9/
sigh... dropping the ball. They dont want this phone on their network.
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Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.

this is what i know verizon has a **** load of iphone and razrs! wouldn't you try and get the most out of your inventory? i wouldn't want to price cut just to sell if i didn't have to, or at least prolong a long as possible

Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.

Luxferro said:
Verizon sucks. that's why I left them after 10+ years. They are like the Apple of cell carriers. Need to control every aspect.
So now they aren't releasing the Gnex cause their 4G LTE is crapping the bed... Seems their LTE service has all kinds of issues with each new phone that is released to it.
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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest

I'm pissed!!! I'm shipping out my G2x Friday and thus wont have a phone until they get off their ass.
The phones are sitting in their stores. Its a little too late.
Verizon usually releases phones on Fridays? So of it misses this Friday, it won't be available until next Friday?
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV

randypurcz said:
Take a look through this forum. I think VZ would have to iron out all these issues before putting it up for sale. I doubt VZ is going to have thier tech support saying " oh you can just download this app to fix that issue". It's going to have to work 99%, or people will just bring it back in and swap phones. There really isn't anything so magnetic about this phone that will make a regular user say they can't part with it. Imagine 50,000 used phones, cases, screen protectors, cradles etc. I can understand a few issues with a new device, but it looks like there are quite a few.
So I guess we will just wait for the 9th and see.
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Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.

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They may control every aspect, but it sure does pay off for them and their subscribers, doesn't it?
Consumer Reports: Verizon has highest satisfaction rate among major US carriers, AT&T is lowest
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Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.

Luxferro said:
Well I will agree on one thing. Their cell reception is the best.
But I can't deal with their arrogance, and pricing. At the time the OG Droid launched (I got mine on first day), they said they were changing their style... going to be more open with regard to their phones. After the OG Droid was a huge success for both Verizon and Android, they pretty much went back to their old ways.
Now they are releasing their 2nd pure google phone. And they are dragging their feet with the release. Probably making google changed certain aspects of it, making it more closed then the GSM version.
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I'll agree that the pricing is outrageous, but until someone with an equal or better network (see: competition) comes along, Verizon will be the status quo as far as high quality networks are concerned.
I don't think the latest delay has anything to do with the Nexus as much as it has to do with the overall network from a QoS standpoint. As a network technician myself, I can tell you that the issues being described with LTE SIM Card Authentication warrant a "freeze" until the problem is rectified. Why introduce a large amount of new devices onto the network without resolving the problem first?

Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?

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anyone know of any on-going discussion groups who are following the LTE issue?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010

Funny I went looking for release dates. Mondays and Thursdays seem pretty common for Verizon. Also funny is the original 11/21 release date (I'm sure it was even earlier then that).
You know I've been on both sides. Push the release date until it's ready and people complain. Release the phone before its ready and people complain. Coming from a LG G2x, I can honestly say releasing the phone before it was ready was good for me but not for the population as a whole. The negative feedback it received as a "faulty device" forever scarred its name.

eallan said:
Do you seriously think Verizon will iron out anything?
Have you used a droid bionic? The phone is total garbage, riddled with bugs, and had plenty of Verizon and Motorola "testing time."
They will release it eventually and it will be full of plenty of bugs they missed. Who knows what the hell they're doing.
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Motorola isn't exactly known for making phones that aren't riddled with bugs.....
This sounds more like something with Verizon's LTE network and not something to do specifically with the phones themselves.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=104418010
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thanks!
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termleech said:
Was just in a Verizon store buying a case for my GSM nexus. Guy said they had the phones in store but got an email a couple hours ago that it was no longer being released on Friday. Didn't have any details but seems like the article posted was true.
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Sigh... its pointless waiting for this phone.

Why are NFC phones still fairly rare?

Hi,
Hopefully you'll know what's behind this? Nfc has been around for a while and uses are kicking in.....contactless payments being the main thing I see. So, why doesn't every phone have NFC?!
Am I missing something? Apple Pay is here. Google Pay is warming up. Surely NFC is about to become a much bigger thing but phone options are still very limited. What's your thoughts?!

Because only a few people really want it. I rarely saw complaint about the lack of NFC on reviews, or sometimes it's only a minor detail.

ranixon said:
Because only a few people really want it. I rarely saw complaint about the lack of NFC on reviews, or sometimes it's only a minor detail.
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A lack of awareness rather than a lack of will, I'd say. Most of my friends have gone "WHAT THE HELL IS THIS WITCHCRAFT" when they see me sharing something with my girlfriend via NFC.
It's super useful once there's a utility, really.