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I haven't found really good explanation on forum and most of post on this seems not to be answered so I'm posting to see if I can get this sorted.
I used Leedroid, InsertCoin, and now on GingerVillian now. All of them had same setting of 500MB ext partition. Problem is I always seems to get low internal memory no matter what ROM I use. Currently I have 394MB free SD-EXT and 16MB Internal.
I moved adobe flash to SD card which seems to free up space and Dalvik Cache is on SD-Ext.
So question is why even though I have lot of EXT space left is it not being used and is there way to make it use it more instead of internal memory?
jinius said:
I haven't found really good explanation on forum and most of post on this seems not to be answered so I'm posting to see if I can get this sorted.
I used Leedroid, InsertCoin, and now on GingerVillian now. All of them had same setting of 500MB ext partition. Problem is I always seems to get low internal memory no matter what ROM I use. Currently I have 394MB free SD-EXT and 16MB Internal.
I moved adobe flash to SD card which seems to free up space and Dalvik Cache is on SD-Ext.
So question is why even though I have lot of EXT space left is it not being used and is there way to make it use it more instead of internal memory?
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App2SD is flawed because of this, say you have an app 20mb, 15mb would be put on to the SD card and the rest go's to internal, so you will still use up space and in the end will have to start uninstalling.
Best way is to use a Rom with data2SD witch give's you 2gb internal memory.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I have the same problem... I hate it , i have 1 gb for sd-ext3 and i cant enjoy it !
Any ideas ?
wska said:
I have the same problem... I hate it , i have 1 gb for sd-ext3 and i cant enjoy it !
Any ideas ?
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Data2SD RoM problems solved
One could also flash a new hboot which increases the size of the /data-partition. However you need s-off for this and it's imho riskier than flashing a rom with data2sd. Whereas i work with a2sd + cm7 hboot and i am very happy it.
Desire with Cool Sensation v7
Hi,
I have this problem too. but it is not our choice to choose the data2sd instead of app2sd because it depend on what the ROM support.
Previously I use App2sd+ from ModaCo ROM. I have 200+ apps and it take the internal memory nearly full but sd-ext space just half.
I tried the Data2sd for Desire is only SuperNova with HTC Sense and it work in 1Gb sd-ext. BUT it uses Sense 2.1.
I just try Sense 3 from Cool Sensation v7 ROM. I love it and dont want to revert back to previous Sense It have 3D home screen, cool weather animation, SMS secure lock. However this ROM still use app2sd. I cannot post to the thread, I dont have enought post count.
I try some other way to apply Data2sd into this ROM but I got boot loop.
After few days I use this ROM, my internal memory almost full (15mb free) for only 57 apps even the app2sd symlink-ed /data/app, /data/app-private, /data/dalvik-cache and /system/app into sd-ext!
Expert please help me and give me some idea.
Do I need to symlink /data/data into sd-ext manually?
Is it possible to remove app2sd in the ROM and install Data2sd? How?
Data2sd require busybox, init.d and ext4 kernel support. I think this ROM have all this thing.
HTC Desire
Hboot S-Off with Revolutionary
4ExtRecovery
Cool Sensation v7 ROM
8Gb Class 2 sd card with Fat32 + 1Gb ext4
And have some basic in Linux shell
I can 100% get my head around this either, although i did install some apps and i could really tell if it was on Internal or EXT4.
From my understanding, as far as the phone os, it thinks apps are on Internal and will decrease the size counter, but apps are on EXT4 if you use a file manager etc.. but even if all goes to EXT4, we still get that annoying LowDisk message was it get to 15megs...
I still was convinced, but i accidently decided i wanted to format my FAT32 partition, mainly to get rid of all the junk that on there since STOCK Rom. I used the Phone own Format SD Card option.
Well that was fun (NOT!!) it instead formatted the EXT4 and not the FAT32, when i rebooted all the loaded apps that were on EXT4 were now gone.
Phone still works, but one side effect of this is now i have like 270megs free....lol, granted no wallpaper, lockscreens etc,
anyway seeing as i screwed up and that im already S-OFF, im going to just go with CM7r2 HBoot.
Similar issue - I think?
Hi all, my first post here
So I have been working my way through all the error messages and guides and finally have InsertCoin set up. All is looking good except after Titanium Backup restored all my apps my internal memory is as full as before I rooted the phone, so I think I can safely say that the 2gb I partitioned off on my SD is not getting ay use at all? Is there a way I can check?
For the record I am running with AmonRa, and I used Revolutionary to get s-Off. The guide I followed to set up A2SD did not have me using any Terminal commands, so I am guessing that is an area for me to explore in solving this, here is the guide I used (near the end)
/myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-install-a-custom-rom-on-your-htc-desire
I used that method as i am on a borrowed mac and it just seemed easier. I
I am hoping there is an easy fix that someone can suggest.
hoads1234 said:
Hi all, my first post here
So I have been working my way through all the error messages and guides and finally have InsertCoin set up. All is looking good except after Titanium Backup restored all my apps my internal memory is as full as before I rooted the phone, so I think I can safely say that the 2gb I partitioned off on my SD is not getting ay use at all? Is there a way I can check?
For the record I am running with AmonRa, and I used Revolutionary to get s-Off. The guide I followed to set up A2SD did not have me using any Terminal commands, so I am guessing that is an area for me to explore in solving this, here is the guide I used (near the end)
/myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-install-a-custom-rom-on-your-htc-desire
I used that method as i am on a borrowed mac and it just seemed easier. I
I am hoping there is an easy fix that someone can suggest.
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To check if a2sd is working, open terminal emulator and type
Code:
su
ls -l /data
Output should say (for a2sd):
Code:
app -> /sd-ext/app
app-private -> /sd-ext/app-private
Additionally for a2sd+:
Code:
dalvik-cache -> /sd-ext/dalvik-cache
If it does not show this, a2sd is not working. So make sure you partitioned sd card correctly (fat32 + ext; both primary).
CallMeLaNN said:
Hi,
I have this problem too. but it is not our choice to choose the data2sd instead of app2sd because it depend on what the ROM support.
Previously I use App2sd+ from ModaCo ROM. I have 200+ apps and it take the internal memory nearly full but sd-ext space just half.
I tried the Data2sd for Desire is only SuperNova with HTC Sense and it work in 1Gb sd-ext. BUT it uses Sense 2.1.
I just try Sense 3 from Cool Sensation v7 ROM. I love it and dont want to revert back to previous Sense It have 3D home screen, cool weather animation, SMS secure lock. However this ROM still use app2sd. I cannot post to the thread, I dont have enought post count.
I try some other way to apply Data2sd into this ROM but I got boot loop.
After few days I use this ROM, my internal memory almost full (15mb free) for only 57 apps even the app2sd symlink-ed /data/app, /data/app-private, /data/dalvik-cache and /system/app into sd-ext!
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I used Cool Sensation v7 but didn't have this problem until I flashed the newer v9 (just noticed v10 has been posted today though). My internal memory was very low but I then flashed the Dalvik to sdext.zip from the Cool Sensation thread and then had 180MB internal free. Try that and see if it works. If it doesn't, have you aligned your SD ext using the .zip on the same thread? if not this could be why your having problems, though it didn't work for me.
Thanks for the ideas, I was a bit out of my depth with the Mac SU functions, so although i didn't get the desired feedback you suggested, but it could have been me. So anyway I found a Ubuntu machine and plugged in the SD card in an adapter and can see that there is a successful partition, and that the EXT partition seems to have some files and folders in it.
I have also just noticed that the SD cards partitions also appear in the Titanium Backup overview screen.
So i guess my problem is that the memory is just full! Maybe my expectations of extra memory after rooting were unrealistic. ?
For the Record, just to make sure my situation is normal, in Titanium I see
System ROM - 262MB (129MB free)
Internal - 158MB (15MB free) - is this just a section of system ROM above?
SD CARD - 13.8GB (11GB free)
SD Card (a2sd) - 1.9GB (1.5GB free)
@xybadog this is my update,
@hoads1234 just want to share with you,
I use Cool Sensation v7, the internal memory full can be solved by flashing the additional zip for stock hboot but I flash non stock hboot. Why?
After some studying, now I know why expert keep asking for my hboot. Hboot define the data partition. On the phone memory, it divided into system, cache and data partition. the hboot define the partition size. For stock hboot, you will only have 147Mb for HTC Desire. Whatever the custom ROM symlink'ed some data partition, we stuck on 147Mb. If you flash like CM7r2 hboot, you will get more room (300+Mb) on data but just enough for system. "Internal memory" is referring to data partition.
Now I still have 130Mb free internal memory after installing 90 apps without wiping any cache for about 2 weeks.
I dont have Ubuntu even I know how to use it. No time to install or make virtual machine. To partition your sdcard easily without linux, use 4ExtRecovery. It is CWM based recovery plus support for Ext4 and some features like partitioning, check for aligned sd-ext and mount as disk drive.
To check for your current internal partition. boot into recovery, and use ADB to run command "df -h". The /system /data and /cache is the thing you need to look for.
You could use the cyanogenmod rom, then install s2e app from market. That app is designed purely for use with cyanogenmod. I use this combo, I have a huge amount of apps installed and still 50mb of internal space free. No need for changing your hboot or using data2sd rom. Very simple fix
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
okay thanks, I am still happy having a go with InsertCoin, so I will have a look at the hboot.
I think i read somewhere that i could do it just like adding a new ROM and copying a zip file across, so time for some more forum reading to work my way through this next step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110921
okay here is my update, since in have revolutionary hboot, i tried to change to alpharev, so i could use their modified partition tables (found no reference of being able to do this in Revolutionary) - the folks on alpharev irc said not to, but didn't say why.
I did try and use the unrevoked tool to flash AmonRa across again, but this had a waiting for reboot error and may have failed. I have also reflashed my ROM again after a full wipe a couple of times. Not finding any improvements in memory, so will keep fiddling.
okay next question!
I tried the terminal emulator commands (once i worked out this was an app, and not the Mac terminal..) and got the following responses
app -> /system/sd/app
app-private ->
dalvik-cache ->
so am i guessing correctly that none of the apps i download are being sent to the SD partition.
Any advice to get app-private directed to my sd card?
hoads1234 said:
okay next question!
I tried the terminal emulator commands (once i worked out this was an app, and not the Mac terminal..) and got the following responses
app -> /system/sd/app
app-private ->
dalvik-cache ->
so am i guessing correctly that none of the apps i download are being sent to the SD partition.
Any advice to get app-private directed to my sd card?
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I suggest you use ADB instead of terminal emulator because easy to type in PC.
Install Android SDK make ADB shell to work and connected to your device. The shell is just the same what you need to do in terminal emulator.
To move app private and dalvik cache simply make symlink like this:
Code:
busybox cp -a /data/dalvik-cache /system/sd/
rm -rf /data/dalvik-cache
ln -s /system/sd/dalvik-cache /data/dalvik-cache
The first will move all contents, the second will remove the existing original dalvik-cache folder. and the third one will make symlink to point from original location to the sd partition.
Hello guys
I´m new here and also quite new to the custom rom scene.
You can skip my story if you want. The questions are below
I bought a Desire (bravo Amoled) around a year ago with a T-mobile Branding.
At this time the actual android version was 2.1 Eclair. Later tehre was 2.2 Froyo out. Becaus i didn´t wanted to wait for the T-mobile update I debranded my phone so get the open 2.2 Froyo update.
I was so happy Froyo had the App2SD function, because now i can intall more apps then before. But with all the updates for google maps, google mail, facebook apps...and user that have to stay on phone memory and the user apps moved to SD still storing data on the internal memory and the dalvik cache i soon again had space problems. Still i can´t install all apps i like.
So lived with this problem not aware of a solution till 2-3 weeks ago, where i finally rooted my phone and installed a custom Rom with A2SD+.
Now I have a rooted, S-OFF phone with Insertcoin V49 A2SD+ Version. And i thought there would be no more space problems, because the dalvik cache and all apps are now on the fake internal memory (1,5 GB ext3). But NO, there are still apps storing stuff on the real internal memory. At last i had problems to move Plants vs. Zombies (~70MB) from SD (Froyoinstall) to the ext, because the internal mem hadn´t enough space and it wouldn´t let me move.
Next step CM7 Hboot?
So here are some questions to understand how that works.
1. When i install a CM7 Hboot, the data partition (internal memory) will be bigger, yes? Means there will be almost double space for app DATAs?
2. The system partition, where the actual ROM is stored and booted is smaller?
2a. But that means some parts of the ROM need to be moved to the SD?
2b. Doesn´t this make the entire phone slower? Because reading from the SD card is slower then from nand? (8GB Class4)
2c. Is there higher power consumtion because of constantly SD access?
3. The cache partition is dramatically decreased to 5 MB. What is ist used for and will there any diadvantages because of the small size?
4. What happens with the Dalvik? Where is ist stored?
5. Does A2SD+ still work with the CM7 insertcoin version? (big ext 3 fake internal memory) or only Froyo A2SD with the bigger real internal memory?
6. How do people get 160-180 free RAM? I have around 100-110 MB.
So my goal is to get as much space available for user apps and getting a faster device (or at least dont get a slower one)
Hope someone read all my questions and can give me clarity..
Thanks in advance
Beegee
no one?
indbeegee said:
So here are some questions to understand how that works.
1. When i install a CM7 Hboot, the data partition (internal memory) will be bigger, yes? Means there will be almost double space for app DATAs?
2. The system partition, where the actual ROM is stored and booted is smaller?
2a. But that means some parts of the ROM need to be moved to the SD?
2b. Doesn´t this make the entire phone slower? Because reading from the SD card is slower then from nand? (8GB Class4)
2c. Is there higher power consumtion because of constantly SD access?
3. The cache partition is dramatically decreased to 5 MB. What is ist used for and will there any diadvantages because of the small size?
4. What happens with the Dalvik? Where is ist stored?
5. Does A2SD+ still work with the CM7 insertcoin version? (big ext 3 fake internal memory) or only Froyo A2SD with the bigger real internal memory?
6. How do people get 160-180 free RAM? I have around 100-110 MB.
Beegee
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Hi beegee,
I'm new to this myself, so not an expert, but I just flashed the CM7r2 hboot myself and will help where I can. Note, I am using CyanogenMod7, not InsertCoin.
1. Yes, the system and cache partitions used by the phone ROM are decreased substantially, system decreases from 250MB to 145MB and cache from 40MB to 5MB. This extra space is then added to the internal data partition for your apps and games. I only have a few apps installed at the moment and my data partition is 287MB total, 21MB used, 266MB free space.
2. Yes, see above.
2a. No, the ROM only requires 145MB, none of it is stored on the sdcard.
3. I'm sure the cache must be a fixed size. Mine (with CyanogenMod7) has remained at 4MB since install so a 5MB partition is large enough.
4. I store dalvik-cache on the ext3 partition of my sdcard as you are doing now. If you moved it back to the phone memory it would be stored in the data partition.
5. I use a version of A2SD with the CM7 hboot and it works fine.
6. I've not used insertcoin but as I said in the first answer I have 287MB data partition in my phone now. This is due to using the CM7 hboot.
Hope this helps,
Steve
The larger cache size from the stock Hboot is meant for OTA updates so we have no use for that. It's also used to flash radio images from recovery. If your cache is too small, like it is in the CM7 and Oxygen Hboots, you will need to flash the radio via fastboot but you don't really need to worry about flashing radio's anyways..can look into that later if you want.
Thanks for the answers by now.
What i found out:
The Insertcoin is a Sense enabled rom. The zip of the Rom is about 288 Meg big. Its not an AOSP like Cyanogen, which is so sleek to fit completely in the smaller system partition. I extracted both Insertcoin A2SD and CM7 zips and found that they have a sdext folder. On the cm7 version it is 365 Meg and on the a2sd+ 80 Meg big. So both versions install files on the external partition.
Only open question now is if the CM7 version supports A2SD+
Edit: Obviously the CM7 version has no A2SD+
Also the the new bigger system partition only has ~ 80 Meg free after first boot ?!
Hello. I haven't installed, yet a custom ROM (I'm still on Rooted Stock), but documented a little to understand even better what each ROM does.
1. I saw that you wanted a very fast ROM, the only ones that are really fast are the AOSP ROM's since they are in the most minimalistic form possible --> ~150MB
2. You should also take in consideration that a small cache partition may slow down some games. This was tested and problems appeared at some games, which use some improved graphics. The games also store there some of the "graphics files"? and since the partition is too small, it has to constanly read/write/delete.
3. CM7 version supports A2SD+: you should read the whole thread from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917570. It explains all. As I have read some of it two things popped-up:
-CyanogenMod do not officially support a2sd, i'm working on it because desire (not only) desperatly need it (cutted down Firerat script)
-Other a2sd can be used, this is just the easiest way: use recovery to partition your SD then install cm7_legacy_a2sd_rX-signed.zip
Hope this helps you.
UsManyDead said:
Hello. I haven't installed, yet a custom ROM (I'm still on Rooted Stock), but documented a little to understand even better what each ROM does.
1. I saw that you wanted a very fast ROM, the only ones that are really fast are the AOSP ROM's since they are in the most minimalistic form possible --> ~150MB
2. You should also take in consideration that a small cache partition may slow down some games. This was tested and problems appeared at some games, which use some improved graphics. The games also store there some of the "graphics files"? and since the partition is too small, it has to constanly read/write/delete.
3. CM7 version supports A2SD+: you should read the whole thread from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917570. It explains all. As I have read some of it two things popped-up:
-CyanogenMod do not officially support a2sd, i'm working on it because desire (not only) desperatly need it (cutted down Firerat script)
-Other a2sd can be used, this is just the easiest way: use recovery to partition your SD then install cm7_legacy_a2sd_rX-signed.zip
Hope this helps you.
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Hello
Thanks for the infos. I know the ASOP roms are faster, but i don´t want to miss the Sense UI.
To 3. I think there was a misunderstanding. When is say CM7 i dont mean the rom "CyanogenMod7" but the CM7 Hboot Version of Insertcoin rom.
I just tried to postinstall a2sd via http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip
But after installation in recovery, the phone wont boot Insertcoin. Stuck at Alpharev Bootstreen now.
jordan.harris01 said:
The larger cache size from the stock Hboot is meant for OTA updates so we have no use for that. It's also used to flash radio images from recovery. If your cache is too small, like it is in the CM7 and Oxygen Hboots, you will need to flash the radio via fastboot but you don't really need to worry about flashing radio's anyways..can look into that later if you want.
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Presumably the HBOOT and Radio partitions are the same size whichever HBOOT you use, and Radio immediately follows HBOOT. Otherwise you would have to flash the Radio if you changed he partition map by (eg) going from Stock to CM7.
indbeegee said:
I just tried to postinstall a2sd via http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2s...a04-signed.zip
But after installation in recovery, the phone wont boot Insertcoin. Stuck at Alpharev Bootstreen now.
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If you've done a nandroid back-up before trying to flash the A2SD+ scripts (which is advised!!!) you should go back to recovery and restore it. You should go back to your InsertCoin again and try the steps once again. Maybe you did something wrong or got a wrong file.
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If you've done a nandroid back-up before trying to flash the A2SD+ scripts (which is advised!!!) you should go back to recovery and restore it. You should go back to your InsertCoin again and try the steps once again. Maybe you did something wrong or got a wrong file.
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No, i didn´t made a nandroid backup, because ist was a new Insertcoin CM7 install. No personal data to lose.
I just wiped and made a new install. Now i have 199 Meg internal memory free.
Edit: After installing DT A2SD in recovery again, the phone is again stuck at Alpharev splash What now?
Edit2: After installing the Rom over without wipe, Insertcoin boots normaly. But i encountered, force reboots when installing any app.
So i made a new fresh isntall.
Conclusion: Insertcoin uses my Ext4 for its Data. But will not use it as fake internal memory. My Ext4 is ~1,5 GB big. Insertcoin uses 600 MB from it and the leftover 900 MB are wastetd, because no one uses it.
Edit 3: Insertcoin doesnt like Ext4. Everytime i tried to install Astro File Manager fom Market the phone rebootet. No problem with Ext3
Hi all.
I'd like to understand better the "alternate HBOOTSs and internal partitions" thing.
I've tried to look around but the information seems to be quite scattered.
What I'd like to understand is:
1. Pros and cons in general
2. Whether and how should i change my SD partitioning
Thanks.
with default hboot your system partition is 250mb.
some roms like oxygen or cm7 dont need 250mb. so installing them on stock hboot is a waste, lots of MBs arent used neither by ROM nor by you since we cant install apps in system.
so thats why there are custom hboots, so you use a CM7 hboot with CM7 rom, system is big enough to hold the ROM and you get bigger /data which is where apps go.
EXT is needed if it is writtien in the ROM thread.
there are also Sense 2.1/3.0 roms that run on data++ or cm7 hboots AND ext.
so for example insertcoin CM7 - 130mb is available on nand, however /system of the ROM is bigger. so essetntial parts go into nand, rest is stored on sd-ext. system is still super-fast, as apps run from NAND, not from ext. files present on ext are not essential for the system speed.
so generally
pros: super fast roms since apps run from NAND, lots of space for apps
cons: if you are a retard you can brick your phone if you flash something wrong
dzumagos said:
with default hboot your system partition is 250mb.
some roms like oxygen or cm7 dont need 250mb. so installing them on stock hboot is a waste, lots of MBs arent used neither by ROM nor by you since we cant install apps in system.
so thats why there are custom hboots, so you use a CM7 hboot with CM7 rom, system is big enough to hold the ROM and you get bigger /data which is where apps go.
EXT is needed if it is writtien in the ROM thread.
there are also Sense 2.1/3.0 roms that run on data++ or cm7 hboots AND ext.
so for example insertcoin CM7 - 130mb is available on nand, however /system of the ROM is bigger. so essetntial parts go into nand, rest is stored on sd-ext. system is still super-fast, as apps run from NAND, not from ext. files present on ext are not essential for the system speed.
so generally
pros: super fast roms since apps run from NAND, lots of space for apps
cons: if you are a retard you can brick your phone if you flash something wrong
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Sent from Oxygen
1st of all, thanks for the explanation!
So, If I understood well, my favorite ROM, which is Reflex S v2.1.7 should be installed in the CM7HBOOT variant. This ROM claims to support "AP2SD+".
Now, If the apps go in the internal /data partition, why should I bother about the EXT3 partition on my SD?
Very likely I'm still missing something else ...
Uqbar said:
1st of all, thanks for the explanation!
So, If I understood well, my favorite ROM, which is Reflex S v2.1.7 should be installed in the CM7HBOOT variant. This ROM claims to support "AP2SD+".
Now, If the apps go in the internal /data partition, why should I bother about the EXT3 partition on my SD?
Very likely I'm still missing something else ...
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A2SD/A2SD+ works on this way:
Usually all apps will be installed to /data partition in the internal memory. If you use a2sd/a2sd+, all apps will be automatically redirected to /sd-ext/app. That's a2sd. When dalvik cache is also moved on sd ext, you use a2sd+. The big advantage is, you do not have to move apps yourself to sd card. It will be done automatically, wether the developer of the app has programmed the app for this or not.
NEVER MOVE APPS TO SD MANUALLY WHEN USING A2SD/A2SD+!!
Referring to reflex s rom running cm7 hboot. Actually, the /system partition of cm7 hboot (130 mb or 145 mb with r2 version) does not give you enough space for reflex s rom. So things will be moved to internal /data partition. Problem is, you don't have enough space for apps because internal /data partition gets filled. To avoid this problem you need the ext partition on your sd card.
Conclusion: You should really bother about an ext partition!!!
MatDrOiD said:
Conclusion: You should really bother about an ext partition!!!
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I though to choose CM7HBOOT to have faster application startup.
You say that Reflex S will fill the /data up and the other apps will end in /sd-ext/app, that is my (sloooow) uSD.
So my question: do you think it's really worth it installing CM7HBOOT with this ROM?
no, no, no, it is not the way matdroid said.
/system is bigger than 130mb (or 145mb) so essential parts stay on NAND, rest goes to SD-EXT, to the folder that is symlinked to the /system (not to /data)
now the apps that you download.
in order for you to understand it, i need to explain a bit. this rom is deodexed. if you really want to know what .odex file is do some research, it is not important. anyway in deodexed roms, apps run from Dalvik-cache and not from the .apk itself (.apk is only needed to create dalvik on 1st boot)
so in reflex S your .apk go to sd-ext BUT the dalvik stays in internal, and since its dalvik what matters ROM is fast.
rom system files do not fill up /data, the /system files that could not fit into 130mb go to sd-ext.
and overally yes, it is worth it, i basically re-discovered my desire after S-OFFing and running custom hboot roms. i have a class 2 sd card, and rom performs super fast (on custom hboot roms your sd class really doesnt matter anymore)
Uqbar said:
1st of all, thanks for the explanation!
So, If I understood well, my favorite ROM, which is Reflex S v2.1.7 should be installed in the CM7HBOOT variant. This ROM claims to support "AP2SD+".
Now, If the apps go in the internal /data partition, why should I bother about the EXT3 partition on my SD?
Very likely I'm still missing something else ...
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and also i as wrote before ....
why should you bother about ext ???
cause /system is 130mb (or145) but it is not enough !!! AND I DID WRITE THAT REST GOES TO SD-EXT.
seriously, you gotta read everything if you are going to s-off and play with custom hboots
and also apart from some /system files on sd-ext, your downloaded .apk's will be on sd-ext too. only their dalvik will stay on NAND
dzumagos said:
no, no, no, it is not the way matdroid said.
/system is bigger than 130mb (or 145mb) so essential parts stay on NAND, rest goes to SD-EXT, to the folder that is symlinked to the /system (not to /data)
now the apps that you download.
in order for you to understand it, i need to explain a bit. this rom is deodexed. if you really want to know what .odex file is do some research, it is not important. anyway in deodexed roms, apps run from Dalvik-cache and not from the .apk itself (.apk is only needed to create dalvik on 1st boot)
so in reflex S your .apk go to sd-ext BUT the dalvik stays in internal, and since its dalvik what matters ROM is fast.
rom system files do not fill up /data, the /system files that could not fit into 130mb go to sd-ext.
and overally yes, it is worth it, i basically re-discovered my desire after S-OFFing and running custom hboot roms. i have a class 2 sd card, and rom performs super fast (on custom hboot roms your sd class really doesnt matter anymore)
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Good to know, thanks. Thought it would work the way I described.
Hmmm ... I don't understand why the ROM looks quite slower than before (STOCK HBOOT) ...
Accordingly to what dzumagos says, I should get a (much) better experience now.
I understand the Dalvik cache stuff and what he says makes sense to me.
Nonetheless the ROM seems to be way slower than before ...
My system should be 145MB, cache 5MB and data 287MB.
Settings say that I have 256MB available on /data e 34MB on /system.
This should mean that I'm not really exploiting the internal storage!!!
And in fact my 1GB ext3 partition is at 50% of capacity.
Now, if my /cache is 5MB as said by AlphaRev, I think it's way too small to fit the (Dalvik?) cache I'd need.
What'd be your view here?
Finally, I'm trying to read everything. But the information is scattered among a dozen of threads each with dozens of posts ... and, as you can see, it's far from easy to discern the cream from the crap.
I really tried to figure it out before posting!
Uqbar said:
Hmmm ... I don't understand why the ROM looks quite slower than before (STOCK HBOOT) ...
Accordingly to what dzumagos says, I should get a (much) better experience now.
I understand the Dalvik cache stuff and what he says makes sense to me.
Nonetheless the ROM seems to be way slower than before ...
My system should be 145MB, cache 5MB and data 287MB.
Settings say that I have 256MB available on /data e 34MB on /system.
This should mean that I'm not really exploiting the internal storage!!!
And in fact my 1GB ext3 partition is at 50% of capacity.
Now, if my /cache is 5MB as said by AlphaRev, I think it's way too small to fit the (Dalvik?) cache I'd need.
What'd be your view here?
Finally, I'm trying to read everything. But the information is scattered among a dozen of threads each with dozens of posts ... and, as you can see, it's far from easy to discern the cream from the crap.
I really tried to figure it out before posting!
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Dalvik cache is not in the /cache partition.
I think I get the reasons for custom hboot but how do you tell which hboot you've got?
My Desire is rooted and S-OFF. I have flashed with STOCKHBOOT version of Reflex_S_2.1.7_LITE_GingerBread_Sense-2.1_GRI40_A2SD+
It works but don't know if I should have used the the CM7 version.
after s-offing you get a stock unlocked hboot.
roms designed for cm7 hboots will work on stock hboot but it works only this way.
MatDrOiD said:
A2SD/A2SD+ works on this way:
Usually all apps will be installed to /data partition in the internal memory. If you use a2sd/a2sd+, all apps will be automatically redirected to /sd-ext/app. That's a2sd. When dalvik cache is also moved on sd ext, you use a2sd+. The big advantage is, you do not have to move apps yourself to sd card. It will be done automatically, wether the developer of the app has programmed the app for this or not.
NEVER MOVE APPS TO SD MANUALLY WHEN USING A2SD/A2SD+!!
Referring to reflex s rom running cm7 hboot. Actually, the /system partition of cm7 hboot (130 mb or 145 mb with r2 version) does not give you enough space for reflex s rom. So things will be moved to internal /data partition. Problem is, you don't have enough space for apps because internal /data partition gets filled. To avoid this problem you need the ext partition on your sd card.
Conclusion: You should really bother about an ext partition!!!
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Thanks for the heads up but am still a bit confused. Pls help me out.
I'm s-off and using the cm7 hboot running Insertcoin stable 1.0.8 cm7 version. Now in the rom under settings>applications>manage applications when you click on some apps you get the option to move the app to sd card and when you do so it frees up some internal memory. But you say not to move apps to sd card manually Should I do this or not?
Any help to clarify would be much appreciated
This is froyo/android a2sd and yes you can do it. It moves some app data to fat32 while a2sd+ move parts of the app itself (in this specific case the .apk only) to the ext. Dalvik will stay on internal unless you issue some superuser commands in adb or terminal.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I'm also confused...so for Reflex S, which hboot should I be running?
Bravo Stock
Bravo N1Table
Bravo Data++
Bravo Sense
Bravo Oxygen r2
Bravo CM7 r2
Bravo Downgrader???
herb1 said:
I'm also confused...so for Reflex S, which hboot should I be running?
Bravo Stock
Bravo N1Table
Bravo Data++
Bravo Sense
Bravo Oxygen r2
Bravo CM7 r2
Bravo Downgrader???
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Sense since its a sense rom?
herb1 said:
I'm also confused...so for Reflex S, which hboot should I be running?
Bravo Stock
Bravo N1Table
Bravo Data++
Bravo Sense
Bravo Oxygen r2
Bravo CM7 r2
Bravo Downgrader???
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Use the recommended one. Maybe you need to search the thread for this.
You only need the downgrader if you flashed one of the r2 hboots and want to change it now.
Sent from Oxygen
Ok I use bravo sense but cm7 r2 does work with reflex s too
Then make sure you use cm 7 version of reflex!
I followed instructions on Apharev homepage and flashed the 'bravo_alphaspl-sense.img'
Downloaded the necessary PB99IMG zipfile and saved it to SD card
now phone goes silver ANDROID logo that reflects passing light after splash image but won't loaded my homepage afterwards
HELP????
hello everyone. I have oxygen ROM with a2sd built in on my Desire.
my free internal storage is about 30mb and ext3 sd partition has about 800mb out of 1gb left. when I try to download some game which takes up to 40mb, google play says there is not enough free space. what should I do to download the app?
Are you sure the a2sd function is enabled in the settings menu? You can check this at:
settings-->apps-->development--> check if SD-EXT is enabled, and prefered install location is set to sd-ext under settings-->menu
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
the above reply is relevant only if you have mildwild version of oxygen.
regardless, you need to be s-off and flash different hboot to maximise space
- oxygenR2 hboot with original oxygen 2.3.2
- cm7r2 hboot with mildwild oxygen
currently, your a2sd script probably only moves apps to sd-ext, you still have app data and dalvik cache on internal? you can always check which bits of memory are stored where using an app like diskusage
change hboot first, then if you still run out of space, search for a script or zip that can also move dalvik cache to sd-ext.
TheRamon said:
Are you sure the a2sd function is enabled in the settings menu? You can check this at:
settings-->apps-->development--> check if SD-EXT is enabled, and prefered install location is set to sd-ext under settings-->menu
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hey, thanks for reply. there isn't anything like sd-ext in development. and I can't find the second one too. maybe because of different ROMs?
s12[dot]postimage[dot]org/ev2a8n9i3/Screen_Shot.png
edit: does flashing new hboot wipe any data? is backup needed?
and I'm already s-off. I was pretty sure it was required to flash oxygen
Sorry I was a bit tired so I just take te settings as mine mildwild oxygen has to.
Assuming the a2sd script is working, you could install S2E to simply move the app data, dalvik cache and stuff to your sd card to increase the internal space
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TheRamon said:
Sorry I was a bit tired so I just take te settings as mine mildwild oxygen has to.
Assuming the a2sd script is working, you could install S2E to simply move the app data, dalvik cache and stuff to your sd card to increase the internal space
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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if the a2sd script is working, you don't need to install anything else...
"S2E works only with CyanogenMod7, CyanogenMod9 and CyanogenMod10!", so no, do not use S2E with this ROM, there is no need anyway.
mightykiss said:
hey, thanks for reply. there isn't anything like sd-ext in development. and I can't find the second one too. maybe because of different ROMs?
s12[dot]postimage[dot]org/ev2a8n9i3/Screen_Shot.png
edit: does flashing new hboot wipe any data? is backup needed?
and I'm already s-off. I was pretty sure it was required to flash oxygen
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which means you are probably on normal oxygen rom
you did not need s-off to flash oxygen. it only unlocks the nand partition so you can modify things on /system while the phone is running. more importantly s-off allows you to change hboots.
basically you are still on stock hboot with 250MB system. if oxygen rom system is say only 95MB, so you waste 155MB . oxygenR2 hboot has 100MB system, so you would waste only 5MB, and you gain an extra 250-100 = 150MB more internal memory :laugh:
flashing hboot does not wipe any data:
- nandroid backup!
- flash different hboot from alpharev.nl (it should fit into oxygenR2, but check your system size using another app like quick system info pro. if it is less than 100MB it will work). search for a guide on this, i recommend to use fastboot command lines. EDIT: further reading here
- boot into recovery
- full wipe and nandroid restore
eddiehk6 said:
if the a2sd script is working, you don't need to install anything else...
"S2E works only with CyanogenMod7, CyanogenMod9 and CyanogenMod10!", so no, do not use S2E with this ROM, there is no need anyway.
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Wow... seriously? That means that I've installed S2E useless on my Mildwild Oxygen. I'm ashamed ALOT.
Sorry for all
ok, so basically I don't see the point of installing new hboot to gain extra 150mb of internal storage, because since yesterday another 15mb has just disappeared so these 150mb wouldnt mean anything. I think that apps just install on internal storage like there wasnt any a2sd. check out this screenshot: s8.postimage[DOT]org/9chhb1cvn/Screen_Shot.png
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ok, so basically I don't see the point of installing new hboot to gain extra 150mb of internal storage, because since yesterday another 15mb has just disappeared so these 150mb wouldnt mean anything. I think that apps just install on internal storage like there wasnt any a2sd. check out this screenshot: s8.postimage[DOT]org/9chhb1cvn/Screen_Shot.png
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it will definitely be worth it to flash a different hboot. you have 136MB free on system which is completely wasted...
you internal is being filled with app caches, app data and dalvik cache. you can use a cache cleaner to clean some things up.
i think your a2sd script is working because your sd-ext is being used. please check using 'diskusage'
flash oxygenR2 hboot first, see how you get on.
if you still run out of space, you can move dalvik cache to sd-ext as well using 'terminal emulator':
Type "su" and press enter
Type "a2sd cachesd" and press enter.
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hey. sorry for not replying for so long, but I am really busy this month.
When I open my HBOOT it says s-off and revolutionary, so I think it's not about HBOOT. What do you think?
so, can you still help me?
mightykiss said:
hey. sorry for not replying for so long, but I am really busy this month.
When I open my HBOOT it says s-off and revolutionary, so I think it's not about HBOOT. What do you think?
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i've already said what you should do , have you even read the guide that i linked?
it is everything to do with hboot...
you are still on stock hboot, you need to change hboot first to maximise space.
then if you still run out of space, move dalvik to sd-ext...
Yeah, I have read it, but why do you think I'm on stock HBOOT if it says revolutionary? Isn't it the version of HBOOT?
I has a similar issue with my Oxygen ROM even if I had Oxygen r2 HBOOT. Finally I solved the "space" issue by replacing default a2sd with amarullz 1.0RC1 script. I worked much better for me on Oxygen.
mightykiss said:
Yeah, I have read it, but why do you think I'm on stock HBOOT if it says revolutionary? Isn't it the version of HBOOT?
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revolutionary means you are s-off, but still on stock hboot. you are definitely still on stock hboot if you haven't actually changed it
(you can check using various apps, like quick system info pro. if system size is 250MB you are on stock hboot)
up to you whether you want to change hboot and solve most of your problems...
hello again. sorry for this break but my phone was on a warranty repair. I finally got a new Desire and today rooted it. I flashed oxygenr2 HBOOT and Oxygen ROM + dalvik-cache2sd to avoid the problem of this topic but even now I still get my memory smaller and smaller! right now I have 325/350 mb free on phone memory and 950/1024 on sd (a2sd). not all applications installed yet so I might run out of space again. what do you think, what might still occupy my memory? how can I check if dalvik2sd works?
edit: okay, it's better than I thought cause the space doesn't descend as quickly as before (every 200mb on SD = 30mb of system). I think it should be enough for my needs so yeah, thanks for help and you can close the thread.
Sorry, but I have one more question. My free system space dropped in 2 days from 4mb to 3,5mb. will it stop or continue until it reaches 0? What does fill the memory except Oxygen ROM? What happens if I run out of space?
hi i root and install CWm recovery v4.xx i dont know and then i install custom Rom (Cool Droid v3 (New Users Full Wipe Recommended, Old Users Just Clear Dalvik.Cache) it work but my partion not work when i install apps it install to phopne rather than partion partion of SD Card .
What did i done to HTC Desire ;
i have make partitaion of 2GB, Swap 128MB , format eXt4 and then install Cool Droid v3.xx on phone
Plz help me
how my partiton work it not shown in Storage it says phone sape 137 MB, Sd Card 1.8 GB (Un Partitioned Space) & the erst is hidden (2 GB partioned space)
Device HTC Desire A8181
naeembabakheil said:
hi i root and install CWm recovery v4.xx i dont know and then i install custom Rom (Cool Droid v3 (New Users Full Wipe Recommended, Old Users Just Clear Dalvik.Cache) it work but my partion not work when i install apps it install to phopne rather than partion partion of SD Card .
What did i done to HTC Desire ;
i have make partitaion of 2GB, Swap 128MB , format eXt4 and then install Cool Droid v3.xx on phone
Plz help me
how my partiton work it not shown in Storage it says phone sape 137 MB, Sd Card 1.8 GB (Un Partitioned Space) & the erst is hidden (2 GB partioned space)
Device HTC Desire A8181
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The partition will not show in the phone storage, but it will still be there, doing its job. From what I know, the ROM doesn't move Dalvik Cache to ext, so that will consume space. Install this from recovery to move data/app and Dalvik to ext: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48303918/apps_dalvik2ext-UNSIGNED.zip
How did you partition your sd-card? If it wasn't with 4ext recovery or Gparted, do it again using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37383522
Thanks i will try this !!!
i will give it a try !!!! :victory:
abaaaabbbb63 said:
The partition will not show in the phone storage, but it will still be there, doing its job. From what I know, the ROM doesn't move Dalvik Cache to ext, so that will consume space. Install this from recovery to move data/app and Dalvik to ext: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48303918/apps_dalvik2ext-UNSIGNED.zip
How did you partition your sd-card? If it wasn't with 4ext recovery or Gparted, do it again using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37383522
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i remember there is another option ...
Hi ! i have install CWm recovery v4 , there is option in first Menu "Mount/Storage" , under this option there is option to mount/ext4 should i mount this ext4 , then it work or not ?????
abaaaabbbb63 said:
The partition will not show in the phone storage, but it will still be there, doing its job. From what I know, the ROM doesn't move Dalvik Cache to ext, so that will consume space. Install this from recovery to move data/app and Dalvik to ext: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48303918/apps_dalvik2ext-UNSIGNED.zip
How did you partition your sd-card? If it wasn't with 4ext recovery or Gparted, do it again using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37383522
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Use 4EXT recovery (requires s-off) or gparted as advised, do not use cwm.
Make 2 partitions, fat32 and ext4, no swap
thanks for tip
thanks for your help !
in recoverymenu 4exT is written i made 2Gb partition 4ext with 128Mb swap .
i use below 4exT Recovery Tool to make 2Gb ext4 partiton with 128 Swap
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408936
so plz tell me how i make two partitions one fat32 and other exT4 . also tell me which partition is use as phone storage so i make that partition big and another little small to save some Space on SD Card !
eddiehk6 said:
Use 4EXT recovery (requires s-off) or gparted as advised, do not use cwm.
Make 2 partitions, fat32 and ext4, no swap
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Are you even following the guide posted above or what I posted?
Backup the sd card, start again. Make the partition without swap, you don't need it
Then if you read the first post of the rom thread:
* Cyanogen A2SD script tweaked by me, moves both Apps and Dalvik to EXT.
So the partition should work automatically, don't flash anything else. As stated above you won't 'see' your total internal memory = 'internal + sd-ext', but it is working. Use an app like 'DiskUsage' to check and browse all your partitions
Also currently I assume you are on stock hboot with 250MB System, 40MB cache and small 147MB Data
If you want a bit more space for apps, you can flash data++ hboot as advised in the first post
DATA++ Hboot 180MB System, 5MB Cache, 252MB Data
Search for guide how to flash hboot, recommend to flash using fastboot
.Thanks i am thinking to install nano version , can u please give a video link how to Flash Hboot and get latest one. whats its function ?
and when i install firmawre i then install Cyanogen A2SD script to work properly my aprtitions
eddiehk6 said:
Are you even following the guide posted above or what I posted?
Backup the sd card, start again. Make the partition without swap, you don't need it
Then if you read the first post of the rom thread:
* Cyanogen A2SD script tweaked by me, moves both Apps and Dalvik to EXT.
So the partition should work automatically, don't flash anything else. As stated above you won't 'see' your total internal memory = 'internal + sd-ext', but it is working. Use an app like 'DiskUsage' to check and browse all your partitions
Also currently I assume you are on stock hboot with 250MB System, 40MB cache and small 147MB Data
If you want a bit more space for apps, you can flash data++ hboot as advised in the first post
DATA++ Hboot 180MB System, 5MB Cache, 252MB Data
Search for guide how to flash hboot, recommend to flash using fastboot
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naeembabakheil said:
.Thanks i am thinking to install nano version , can u please give a video link how to Flash Hboot and get latest one. whats its function ?
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Don't know about the nano version...you need to understand how big the /system size of that version is before you choose the right hboot. Search or ask in rom thread. Or download the rom.zip and open it (don't need to extract) with program like 7zip, check the /system size
It's not about 'latest' hboot. Download the hboots from alpharev.nl, you'll see them all listed. You choose the 'right' one to fit your Rom's /system size, therefore maximum /data (internal memory) >>> more space for apps :good:
For instance if the nano version has /system size 175MB, it will fit into data++ hboot with 180MB /system, you waste only 5MB and get and 252MB /data
However if you install it on stock hboot like you have now, it has 250MB /system, so you waste 75MB on /system, only get 147MB /data
Please try to understand this before proceeding...
To change hboot, search 'HTC Desire how to flash hboot' (I'm on mobile), I recommend to findguide which uses fastboot
Eventually:
- Backup everything if you haven't already, apps using titanium, contacts top Google account etc
- Backup and repartition sd card as instructed
- Flash recommended hboot
- Reboot back into recovery
- Full wipe ('wipe all partitions except sdcard' within 4EXT)
- Flash rom.zip and reboot
and when i install firmawre i then install Cyanogen A2SD script to work properly my aprtitions
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Please read the rom thread and what I have posted...
You don't need to flash anything extra, the rom comes with an a2sd script...
Thansk for tyour guidelines
thansk i got some tips from your guidelines
the link u give i found Bravo CM7 r2 has 287 MB space Bravo Oxygen r2 has 332MB space so if i install oxygen r2 i will get more sapce but it has low 5MB cache so it will effect performance or not if cahe size decrease ?
and how can i install these HBoot ? from recovery Menu ! and then falsh every thhing cahe etc ... and install rom then !
& ont site u givn is written "AlphaRev 1.8 is now deprecated software. If at all possible, use Revolutionary instead.' i have already used Revolutionary and there is pink labeled on top when phone enter into Fastboot Mode
eddiehk6 said:
Don't know about the nano version...you need to understand how big the /system size of that version is before you choose the right hboot. Search or ask in rom thread. Or download the rom.zip and open it (don't need to extract) with program like 7zip, check the /system size
It's not about 'latest' hboot. Download the hboots from alpharev.nl, you'll see them all listed. You choose the 'right' one to fit your Rom's /system size, therefore maximum /data (internal memory) >>> more space for apps :good:
For instance if the nano version has /system size 175MB, it will fit into data++ hboot with 180MB /system, you waste only 5MB and get and 252MB /data
However if you install it on stock hboot like you have now, it has 250MB /system, so you waste 75MB on /system, only get 147MB /data
Please try to understand this before proceeding...
To change hboot, search 'HTC Desire how to flash hboot' (I'm on mobile), I recommend to findguide which uses fastboot
Eventually:
- Backup everything if you haven't already, apps using titanium, contacts top Google account etc
- Backup and repartition sd card as instructed
- Flash recommended hboot
- Reboot back into recovery
- Full wipe ('wipe all partitions except sdcard' within 4EXT)
- Flash rom.zip and reboot
Please read the rom thread and what I have posted...
You don't need to flash anything extra, the rom comes with an a2sd script...
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naeembabakheil said:
thansk i got some tips from your guidelines
the link u give i found Bravo CM7 r2 has 287 MB space Bravo Oxygen r2 has 332MB space so if i install oxygen r2 i will get more sapce but it has low 5MB cache so it will effect performance or not if cahe size decrease ?
and how can i install these HBoot ? from recovery Menu ! and then falsh every thhing cahe etc ... and install rom then !
& ont site u givn is written "AlphaRev 1.8 is now deprecated software. If at all possible, use Revolutionary instead.' i have already used Revolutionary and there is pink labeled on top when phone enter into Fastboot Mode
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Did you even read what eddie said? Try taking a look at his post above again, and understand what he is saying before you do anything.
cm7r2 or oxygenr2 will not work with cooldroid (not enough space for system). You need to check the system size of the rom, before looking at how much data you get.
Cooldroid needs atleast 165mb on the system partition. Therefore the most optimal hboot would be data++ like eddie and the OP of cooldroid said. Also 5mb is fine for the cache partition. I doubt you will notice any performance problems, so its nothing to worry about.
To install the hboot you can either use fastboot (you need the .img version of the hboot) or the PB99IMG method (you need the .zip version of the hboot).
Download the hboots from alpharev.nl,
hi thanks for your kindness
u give me the link hboots from alpharev.nl, there is a table on this site now how i know which file to install
eddiehk6 said:
Don't know about the nano version...you need to understand how big the /system size of that version is before you choose the right hboot. Search or ask in rom thread. Or download the rom.zip and open it (don't need to extract) with program like 7zip, check the /system size
It's not about 'latest' hboot. Download the hboots from alpharev.nl, you'll see them all listed. You choose the 'right' one to fit your Rom's /system size, therefore maximum /data (internal memory) >>> more space for apps :good:
For instance if the nano version has /system size 175MB, it will fit into data++ hboot with 180MB /system, you waste only 5MB and get and 252MB /data
However if you install it on stock hboot like you have now, it has 250MB /system, so you waste 75MB on /system, only get 147MB /data
Please try to understand this before proceeding...
To change hboot, search 'HTC Desire how to flash hboot' (I'm on mobile), I recommend to findguide which uses fastboot
Eventually:
- Backup everything if you haven't already, apps using titanium, contacts top Google account etc
- Backup and repartition sd card as instructed
- Flash recommended hboot
- Reboot back into recovery
- Full wipe ('wipe all partitions except sdcard' within 4EXT)
- Flash rom.zip and reboot
Please read the rom thread and what I have posted...
You don't need to flash anything extra, the rom comes with an a2sd script...
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naeembabakheil said:
hi thanks for your kindness
u give me the link hboots from alpharev.nl, there is a table on this site now how i know which file to install
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The table has each hboot info listed. Fist column is the size of /system (This should be the ROM size + 5mb), second column is the size of /cache (Doesn't really matter) and the third column is the size of /data, the internal memory. You choose the best for your ROM (As I said, it should be larger than ROM size +5mb)
Thanks for Reply
I downlaoded Rom for HTC Desire from http://www.cooldevs.com/archives/549
its total size is 244 MB so if i downlaoded Bravo CMr7 or bravo Oxygen it will work with this ROM ?
MBwhat i got from u is this ROM is 244 or 245MB thats y i have 147 MB left so if i flash Hboot download from http://alpharev.nl/ and then install Rom again i will get extra space and can my partitions work properly :silly:
& hey what i notice on that site is There is Two links for download :
Download & PB99IMG so i am confused again
naeembabakheil said:
I downlaoded Rom for HTC Desire from http://www.cooldevs.com/archives/549
its total size is 244 MB so if i downlaoded Bravo CMr7 or bravo Oxygen it will work with this ROM ?
MBwhat i got from u is this ROM is 244 or 245MB thats y i have 147 MB left so if i flash Hboot download from http://alpharev.nl/ and then install Rom again i will get extra space and can my partitions work properly :silly:
& hey what i notice on that site is There is Two links for download :
Download & PB99IMG so i am confused again
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That ROM is 244 MB in size, so you need a hboot with a 250 MB /system partition.
The CM7r2 and Oxygen hboots have smaller /system partitions, so the ROM won't fit.
Thanks got little more
ok if hboot is 250Mb installed then Rom will also install under 250MB . thats good
i need sapce so want to install The CM7r2 and Oxygen hboots have smaller /system partitions then where can i find smaller size ROM
abaaaabbbb63 said:
That ROM is 244 MB in size, so you need a hboot with a 250 MB /system partition.
The CM7r2 and Oxygen hboots have smaller /system partitions, so the ROM won't fit.
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naeembabakheil said:
ok if hboot is 250Mb installed then Rom will also install under 250MB . thats good
i need sapce so want to install The CM7r2 and Oxygen hboots have smaller /system partitions then where can i find smaller size ROM
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Try Non-sense ROMs, like Mildwild ROMs They work fine with the cm7r2 hboot.
Cool droid works with Data++ hboot aswell so ud have a bit more internal memory.
Thanks man i learn alot from u
ok tell me , should i make partition before installing a New Rom or after installing a Rom. i first fomart and make new partition and then install Custom Roms this method is right ?
and i also read your partiotnaing thread and find that if aprtitino not work then install App2Sd or moun2SD i will also thry these Thasnk but plz answer my question above ...
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Try Non-sense ROMs, like Mildwild ROMs They work fine with the cm7r2 hboot.
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naeembabakheil said:
ok tell me , should i make partition before installing a New Rom or after installing a Rom. i first fomart and make new partition and then install Custom Roms this method is right ?
and i also read your partiotnaing thread and find that if aprtitino not work then install App2Sd or moun2SD i will also thry these Thasnk but plz answer my question above ...
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Yes make the partition first. I would suggest this order: install optimized hboot for the rom you want, create partition. full wipe, flash rom.
Most of milwilds roms come with a2sd built in so you dont need to install anything extra.