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I few Roms are available in DATA++ format. What exactly extra do they have and how does it compare to a2sd and d2ext?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036485

Data++ ROMs are "variant" of app2sd,aimed to have more speed by leaving dalvik cache on internal memory (most app2sd ROMs move apps and dalvik cache to sd-ext),on /data partition,BUT custom partion sizes are used to have bigger /data partition to have enough room for dalvik cache and still be able to install bunch of apps. Only "disadvantage" to data++ vs app2sd is that your device has to be s-off and you have to flash CM7 or Oxygen (or even data++) Hboot.

Can anybody tell me why some data++ roms give 302MB internal memory - CyanogenMod7
and others 212MB - RCMixHD 3.6.1 DeSensenized
I agree, they are different, number of preinstalled apps is different, but it is almost 100MB between them.
regards

Less apps installed in the AOSP ROMS on flash, just check their download size.

ur right, and i've checked also that dalvik of all apps goes to internal in RCMix.
another question
when i uninstalling an app in settings/application or in System app remover dalvik stayes and wasting memory, to keep it clean I have to delete it manually with Root Explorer.
is there any way to uninstall an app and automatic deleting also its dalvik?

Apps2SD
xarus08 said:
Can anybody tell me why some data++ roms give 302MB internal memory - CyanogenMod7
and others 212MB - RCMixHD 3.6.1 DeSensenized
I agree, they are different, number of preinstalled apps is different, but it is almost 100MB between them.
regards
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AFAIK, CyanogenMod 7 doesn't use data++, but Apps2SD. I tried to link to their Wiki, but the forum won't allow me because I'm new here. You can find the link titled "Apps2SD" on their wiki's homepage.

shamanNS said:
Data++ ROMs are "variant" of app2sd,aimed to have more speed by leaving dalvik cache on internal memory (most app2sd ROMs move apps and dalvik cache to sd-ext),on /data partition,BUT custom partion sizes are used to have bigger /data partition to have enough room for dalvik cache and still be able to install bunch of apps. Only "disadvantage" to data++ vs app2sd is that your device has to be s-off and you have to flash CM7 or Oxygen (or even data++) Hboot.
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Sorry for being a Nood (just saw de Noob vid ) but can you tell me what "device has to be s-off and you have to flash CM7 or Oxygen (or even data++) Hboot." mean? I an planning to install LeeDroid Data++ for HTC Desire!

ankushkool said:
Sorry for being a Nood (just saw de Noob vid ) but can you tell me what "device has to be s-off and you have to flash CM7 or Oxygen (or even data++) Hboot." mean? I an planning to install LeeDroid Data++ for HTC Desire!
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It means you have to gain s-off using alpharev and then flash alternative hboot using fastboot. You have a lots of reading to do if you didn't know what it meant in the first place. Start by googling alpharev.

[Q] Some rom understanding questions (Insertcoin, A2SD, CM7)

Hello guys
I´m new here and also quite new to the custom rom scene.
You can skip my story if you want. The questions are below
I bought a Desire (bravo Amoled) around a year ago with a T-mobile Branding.
At this time the actual android version was 2.1 Eclair. Later tehre was 2.2 Froyo out. Becaus i didn´t wanted to wait for the T-mobile update I debranded my phone so get the open 2.2 Froyo update.
I was so happy Froyo had the App2SD function, because now i can intall more apps then before. But with all the updates for google maps, google mail, facebook apps...and user that have to stay on phone memory and the user apps moved to SD still storing data on the internal memory and the dalvik cache i soon again had space problems. Still i can´t install all apps i like.
So lived with this problem not aware of a solution till 2-3 weeks ago, where i finally rooted my phone and installed a custom Rom with A2SD+.
Now I have a rooted, S-OFF phone with Insertcoin V49 A2SD+ Version. And i thought there would be no more space problems, because the dalvik cache and all apps are now on the fake internal memory (1,5 GB ext3). But NO, there are still apps storing stuff on the real internal memory. At last i had problems to move Plants vs. Zombies (~70MB) from SD (Froyoinstall) to the ext, because the internal mem hadn´t enough space and it wouldn´t let me move.
Next step CM7 Hboot?
So here are some questions to understand how that works.
1. When i install a CM7 Hboot, the data partition (internal memory) will be bigger, yes? Means there will be almost double space for app DATAs?
2. The system partition, where the actual ROM is stored and booted is smaller?
2a. But that means some parts of the ROM need to be moved to the SD?
2b. Doesn´t this make the entire phone slower? Because reading from the SD card is slower then from nand? (8GB Class4)
2c. Is there higher power consumtion because of constantly SD access?
3. The cache partition is dramatically decreased to 5 MB. What is ist used for and will there any diadvantages because of the small size?
4. What happens with the Dalvik? Where is ist stored?
5. Does A2SD+ still work with the CM7 insertcoin version? (big ext 3 fake internal memory) or only Froyo A2SD with the bigger real internal memory?
6. How do people get 160-180 free RAM? I have around 100-110 MB.
So my goal is to get as much space available for user apps and getting a faster device (or at least dont get a slower one)
Hope someone read all my questions and can give me clarity..
Thanks in advance
Beegee

no one?

indbeegee said:
So here are some questions to understand how that works.
1. When i install a CM7 Hboot, the data partition (internal memory) will be bigger, yes? Means there will be almost double space for app DATAs?
2. The system partition, where the actual ROM is stored and booted is smaller?
2a. But that means some parts of the ROM need to be moved to the SD?
2b. Doesn´t this make the entire phone slower? Because reading from the SD card is slower then from nand? (8GB Class4)
2c. Is there higher power consumtion because of constantly SD access?
3. The cache partition is dramatically decreased to 5 MB. What is ist used for and will there any diadvantages because of the small size?
4. What happens with the Dalvik? Where is ist stored?
5. Does A2SD+ still work with the CM7 insertcoin version? (big ext 3 fake internal memory) or only Froyo A2SD with the bigger real internal memory?
6. How do people get 160-180 free RAM? I have around 100-110 MB.
Beegee
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Hi beegee,
I'm new to this myself, so not an expert, but I just flashed the CM7r2 hboot myself and will help where I can. Note, I am using CyanogenMod7, not InsertCoin.
1. Yes, the system and cache partitions used by the phone ROM are decreased substantially, system decreases from 250MB to 145MB and cache from 40MB to 5MB. This extra space is then added to the internal data partition for your apps and games. I only have a few apps installed at the moment and my data partition is 287MB total, 21MB used, 266MB free space.
2. Yes, see above.
2a. No, the ROM only requires 145MB, none of it is stored on the sdcard.
3. I'm sure the cache must be a fixed size. Mine (with CyanogenMod7) has remained at 4MB since install so a 5MB partition is large enough.
4. I store dalvik-cache on the ext3 partition of my sdcard as you are doing now. If you moved it back to the phone memory it would be stored in the data partition.
5. I use a version of A2SD with the CM7 hboot and it works fine.
6. I've not used insertcoin but as I said in the first answer I have 287MB data partition in my phone now. This is due to using the CM7 hboot.
Hope this helps,
Steve

The larger cache size from the stock Hboot is meant for OTA updates so we have no use for that. It's also used to flash radio images from recovery. If your cache is too small, like it is in the CM7 and Oxygen Hboots, you will need to flash the radio via fastboot but you don't really need to worry about flashing radio's anyways..can look into that later if you want.

Thanks for the answers by now.
What i found out:
The Insertcoin is a Sense enabled rom. The zip of the Rom is about 288 Meg big. Its not an AOSP like Cyanogen, which is so sleek to fit completely in the smaller system partition. I extracted both Insertcoin A2SD and CM7 zips and found that they have a sdext folder. On the cm7 version it is 365 Meg and on the a2sd+ 80 Meg big. So both versions install files on the external partition.
Only open question now is if the CM7 version supports A2SD+
Edit: Obviously the CM7 version has no A2SD+
Also the the new bigger system partition only has ~ 80 Meg free after first boot ?!

Hello. I haven't installed, yet a custom ROM (I'm still on Rooted Stock), but documented a little to understand even better what each ROM does.
1. I saw that you wanted a very fast ROM, the only ones that are really fast are the AOSP ROM's since they are in the most minimalistic form possible --> ~150MB
2. You should also take in consideration that a small cache partition may slow down some games. This was tested and problems appeared at some games, which use some improved graphics. The games also store there some of the "graphics files"? and since the partition is too small, it has to constanly read/write/delete.
3. CM7 version supports A2SD+: you should read the whole thread from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917570. It explains all. As I have read some of it two things popped-up:
-CyanogenMod do not officially support a2sd, i'm working on it because desire (not only) desperatly need it (cutted down Firerat script)
-Other a2sd can be used, this is just the easiest way: use recovery to partition your SD then install cm7_legacy_a2sd_rX-signed.zip
Hope this helps you.

UsManyDead said:
Hello. I haven't installed, yet a custom ROM (I'm still on Rooted Stock), but documented a little to understand even better what each ROM does.
1. I saw that you wanted a very fast ROM, the only ones that are really fast are the AOSP ROM's since they are in the most minimalistic form possible --> ~150MB
2. You should also take in consideration that a small cache partition may slow down some games. This was tested and problems appeared at some games, which use some improved graphics. The games also store there some of the "graphics files"? and since the partition is too small, it has to constanly read/write/delete.
3. CM7 version supports A2SD+: you should read the whole thread from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917570. It explains all. As I have read some of it two things popped-up:
-CyanogenMod do not officially support a2sd, i'm working on it because desire (not only) desperatly need it (cutted down Firerat script)
-Other a2sd can be used, this is just the easiest way: use recovery to partition your SD then install cm7_legacy_a2sd_rX-signed.zip
Hope this helps you.
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Hello
Thanks for the infos. I know the ASOP roms are faster, but i don´t want to miss the Sense UI.
To 3. I think there was a misunderstanding. When is say CM7 i dont mean the rom "CyanogenMod7" but the CM7 Hboot Version of Insertcoin rom.
I just tried to postinstall a2sd via http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2sd/dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip
But after installation in recovery, the phone wont boot Insertcoin. Stuck at Alpharev Bootstreen now.

jordan.harris01 said:
The larger cache size from the stock Hboot is meant for OTA updates so we have no use for that. It's also used to flash radio images from recovery. If your cache is too small, like it is in the CM7 and Oxygen Hboots, you will need to flash the radio via fastboot but you don't really need to worry about flashing radio's anyways..can look into that later if you want.
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Presumably the HBOOT and Radio partitions are the same size whichever HBOOT you use, and Radio immediately follows HBOOT. Otherwise you would have to flash the Radio if you changed he partition map by (eg) going from Stock to CM7.

indbeegee said:
I just tried to postinstall a2sd via http://www.darktremor.info/files/a2s...a04-signed.zip
But after installation in recovery, the phone wont boot Insertcoin. Stuck at Alpharev Bootstreen now.
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If you've done a nandroid back-up before trying to flash the A2SD+ scripts (which is advised!!!) you should go back to recovery and restore it. You should go back to your InsertCoin again and try the steps once again. Maybe you did something wrong or got a wrong file.

UsManyDead said:
If you've done a nandroid back-up before trying to flash the A2SD+ scripts (which is advised!!!) you should go back to recovery and restore it. You should go back to your InsertCoin again and try the steps once again. Maybe you did something wrong or got a wrong file.
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No, i didn´t made a nandroid backup, because ist was a new Insertcoin CM7 install. No personal data to lose.
I just wiped and made a new install. Now i have 199 Meg internal memory free.
Edit: After installing DT A2SD in recovery again, the phone is again stuck at Alpharev splash What now?
Edit2: After installing the Rom over without wipe, Insertcoin boots normaly. But i encountered, force reboots when installing any app.
So i made a new fresh isntall.
Conclusion: Insertcoin uses my Ext4 for its Data. But will not use it as fake internal memory. My Ext4 is ~1,5 GB big. Insertcoin uses 600 MB from it and the leftover 900 MB are wastetd, because no one uses it.
Edit 3: Insertcoin doesnt like Ext4. Everytime i tried to install Astro File Manager fom Market the phone rebootet. No problem with Ext3

[Q] Cool Sensation v7 Internal Memory full even a2sd is used

Hi, I cannot post to the thread
[ROM][Cool3D Sense 3.0][19 Aug]Cool Sensation v7|Stable|CM7/r2|DATA++|STOCK
because not enough post count.
I am using HTC Desire, I just upgrade this ROM and v7 is just release few days ago. I apply a2sd and it works well. I have check the sd-ext folder and symlink like this:
/data/app -> /sd-ext/app
/data/app-private -> /sd-ext/app-private
/system/app -> /sd-ext/app_s
/data/dalvik-cache -> /sd-ext/dalvik-cache
Now after I full sync, restore all call log and SMS, etc + install 57 apps, my internal memory very low, only 15mb free.
Can I symlink /data/data to /sd-ext/data also?
Is it possible to use Data2Sd instead of a2sd for this ROM?
I like this ROM because it have the new HTC Sense 3.

Do you use the version which corresponds with your hboot?

Wipe dalvik cache and flash this. It's A2SD taken from VU 1.31. It moves dalvik to ext and includes btrfs support.

MatDrOiD said:
Do you use the version which corresponds with your hboot?
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Oh. good point here almost confused hboot with recovery.
I just s-off with Revolitionary to flash 4ExtRecovery. What I know it is based on ClockWorkMod Recovery which added support for ext4, mount disk drive, convert ext3 <-> ext4, aligned partitioning, MD5 check. I use this because I dont have Linux os to create partition on my sd card using gparted.
So mine one should be based on stock hboot but s-off by Revolutionary. The Cool Sensation say it require CM7, Data++ or stock Hboot. Should not be a problem. What I know, hboot is just a bootloader to use fastboot, enter recovery mode or run Android normally.
Why I need to specifically use this hboot?
Does hboot related with any ROM zip being flash?
What the memory size for system, cache and data indicate in the Cool Sensation requirement?
If I really need to reflash and change to CM7 hboot, can I straight away do it without wipe data and reflash the ROM again?
and Does the hboot really give impact to internal memory space decrease over time?
(sorry to many question, this is just my 2nd time reflashing my phone, answer anything you can)
HTC Desire
Hboot S-Off with Revolutionary
4ExtRecovery
Cool Sensation v7 ROM
8Gb Class 2 sd card with Fat32 + 1Gb ext4

mikbe said:
Wipe dalvik cache and flash this. It's A2SD taken from VU 1.31. It moves dalvik to ext and includes btrfs support.
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I think this is the one in the "Dalvik.Cache To SD-EXT" link with a2sd.KD.zip file name. I apply this already otherwise I will get internal memory critically low in the first boot.
My dalvik-cache already symlink-ed to the /sd-ext/dalvik-cache
Any idea? move /data/data to sd-ext also? or how to change to Data2sd?

CallMeLaNN said:
I think this is the one in the "Dalvik.Cache To SD-EXT" link with a2sd.KD.zip file name. I apply this already otherwise I will get internal memory critically low in the first boot.
My dalvik-cache already symlink-ed to the /sd-ext/dalvik-cache
Any idea? move /data/data to sd-ext also? or how to change to Data2sd?
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You can't change. That file I attached is not the same as one in coolexe's thread. I have CM7r2, ~80 apps and only 100 MB spent on data partition.

mikbe said:
You can't change. That file I attached is not the same as one in coolexe's thread. I have CM7r2, ~80 apps and only 100 MB spent on data partition.
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Ok, let me try and I will response back here later.
anyway how you get this version of file?
did you have a reference where?

CallMeLaNN said:
Ok, let me try and I will response back here later.
anyway how you get this version of file?
did you have a reference where?
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I modified it myself. It's the VU 1.31 A2SD script with btrfs support. I'd say CM7r2 HBOOT is more user friendly than stock.

ok, I will try CM7r2 hboot then. I just realize the space become decrease over time. during I open this thread 15mb free. last few hours ago 8 mb and now only 7mb remaining. something went wrong here. I try to remove all apps see if it consistently decrease or maybe I need to reflash or change hboot.

CallMeLaNN said:
ok, I will try CM7r2 hboot then. I just realize the space become decrease over time. during I open this thread 15mb free. last few hours ago 8 mb and now only 7mb remaining. something went wrong here. I try to remove all apps see if it consistently decrease or maybe I need to reflash or change hboot.
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Anyway actually I can have 200 over apps in this phone before, just using ModaCo for Froyo with app2sd+. Now I can post the thread.

Reading the CS thread from 22th Aug until today. now I understood why we need to change hboot. It is because hboot defines the system, cache and data internal partition size. I dont want to stuck on 147Mb even I use a2sd, sd ext4 and symlinked well, so I will change to CM7r2 to get about 300mb of data size first.
Then do what ckpv5 advice to improve performance and have a lot of space. Wish me luck.

oxygen a2sd internal storage issue

hello everyone. I have oxygen ROM with a2sd built in on my Desire.
my free internal storage is about 30mb and ext3 sd partition has about 800mb out of 1gb left. when I try to download some game which takes up to 40mb, google play says there is not enough free space. what should I do to download the app?

Are you sure the a2sd function is enabled in the settings menu? You can check this at:
settings-->apps-->development--> check if SD-EXT is enabled, and prefered install location is set to sd-ext under settings-->menu
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

the above reply is relevant only if you have mildwild version of oxygen.
regardless, you need to be s-off and flash different hboot to maximise space
- oxygenR2 hboot with original oxygen 2.3.2
- cm7r2 hboot with mildwild oxygen
currently, your a2sd script probably only moves apps to sd-ext, you still have app data and dalvik cache on internal? you can always check which bits of memory are stored where using an app like diskusage
change hboot first, then if you still run out of space, search for a script or zip that can also move dalvik cache to sd-ext.

TheRamon said:
Are you sure the a2sd function is enabled in the settings menu? You can check this at:
settings-->apps-->development--> check if SD-EXT is enabled, and prefered install location is set to sd-ext under settings-->menu
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hey, thanks for reply. there isn't anything like sd-ext in development. and I can't find the second one too. maybe because of different ROMs?
s12[dot]postimage[dot]org/ev2a8n9i3/Screen_Shot.png
edit: does flashing new hboot wipe any data? is backup needed?
and I'm already s-off. I was pretty sure it was required to flash oxygen

Sorry I was a bit tired so I just take te settings as mine mildwild oxygen has to.
Assuming the a2sd script is working, you could install S2E to simply move the app data, dalvik cache and stuff to your sd card to increase the internal space
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app

TheRamon said:
Sorry I was a bit tired so I just take te settings as mine mildwild oxygen has to.
Assuming the a2sd script is working, you could install S2E to simply move the app data, dalvik cache and stuff to your sd card to increase the internal space
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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if the a2sd script is working, you don't need to install anything else...
"S2E works only with CyanogenMod7, CyanogenMod9 and CyanogenMod10!", so no, do not use S2E with this ROM, there is no need anyway.
mightykiss said:
hey, thanks for reply. there isn't anything like sd-ext in development. and I can't find the second one too. maybe because of different ROMs?
s12[dot]postimage[dot]org/ev2a8n9i3/Screen_Shot.png
edit: does flashing new hboot wipe any data? is backup needed?
and I'm already s-off. I was pretty sure it was required to flash oxygen
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which means you are probably on normal oxygen rom
you did not need s-off to flash oxygen. it only unlocks the nand partition so you can modify things on /system while the phone is running. more importantly s-off allows you to change hboots.
basically you are still on stock hboot with 250MB system. if oxygen rom system is say only 95MB, so you waste 155MB . oxygenR2 hboot has 100MB system, so you would waste only 5MB, and you gain an extra 250-100 = 150MB more internal memory :laugh:
flashing hboot does not wipe any data:
- nandroid backup!
- flash different hboot from alpharev.nl (it should fit into oxygenR2, but check your system size using another app like quick system info pro. if it is less than 100MB it will work). search for a guide on this, i recommend to use fastboot command lines. EDIT: further reading here
- boot into recovery
- full wipe and nandroid restore

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if the a2sd script is working, you don't need to install anything else...
"S2E works only with CyanogenMod7, CyanogenMod9 and CyanogenMod10!", so no, do not use S2E with this ROM, there is no need anyway.
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Wow... seriously? That means that I've installed S2E useless on my Mildwild Oxygen. I'm ashamed ALOT.
Sorry for all

ok, so basically I don't see the point of installing new hboot to gain extra 150mb of internal storage, because since yesterday another 15mb has just disappeared so these 150mb wouldnt mean anything. I think that apps just install on internal storage like there wasnt any a2sd. check out this screenshot: s8.postimage[DOT]org/9chhb1cvn/Screen_Shot.png

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ok, so basically I don't see the point of installing new hboot to gain extra 150mb of internal storage, because since yesterday another 15mb has just disappeared so these 150mb wouldnt mean anything. I think that apps just install on internal storage like there wasnt any a2sd. check out this screenshot: s8.postimage[DOT]org/9chhb1cvn/Screen_Shot.png
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it will definitely be worth it to flash a different hboot. you have 136MB free on system which is completely wasted...
you internal is being filled with app caches, app data and dalvik cache. you can use a cache cleaner to clean some things up.
i think your a2sd script is working because your sd-ext is being used. please check using 'diskusage'
flash oxygenR2 hboot first, see how you get on.
if you still run out of space, you can move dalvik cache to sd-ext as well using 'terminal emulator':
Type "su" and press enter
Type "a2sd cachesd" and press enter.
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hey. sorry for not replying for so long, but I am really busy this month.
When I open my HBOOT it says s-off and revolutionary, so I think it's not about HBOOT. What do you think?

so, can you still help me?

mightykiss said:
hey. sorry for not replying for so long, but I am really busy this month.
When I open my HBOOT it says s-off and revolutionary, so I think it's not about HBOOT. What do you think?
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i've already said what you should do , have you even read the guide that i linked?
it is everything to do with hboot...
you are still on stock hboot, you need to change hboot first to maximise space.
then if you still run out of space, move dalvik to sd-ext...

Yeah, I have read it, but why do you think I'm on stock HBOOT if it says revolutionary? Isn't it the version of HBOOT?

I has a similar issue with my Oxygen ROM even if I had Oxygen r2 HBOOT. Finally I solved the "space" issue by replacing default a2sd with amarullz 1.0RC1 script. I worked much better for me on Oxygen.

mightykiss said:
Yeah, I have read it, but why do you think I'm on stock HBOOT if it says revolutionary? Isn't it the version of HBOOT?
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revolutionary means you are s-off, but still on stock hboot. you are definitely still on stock hboot if you haven't actually changed it
(you can check using various apps, like quick system info pro. if system size is 250MB you are on stock hboot)
up to you whether you want to change hboot and solve most of your problems...

hello again. sorry for this break but my phone was on a warranty repair. I finally got a new Desire and today rooted it. I flashed oxygenr2 HBOOT and Oxygen ROM + dalvik-cache2sd to avoid the problem of this topic but even now I still get my memory smaller and smaller! right now I have 325/350 mb free on phone memory and 950/1024 on sd (a2sd). not all applications installed yet so I might run out of space again. what do you think, what might still occupy my memory? how can I check if dalvik2sd works?
edit: okay, it's better than I thought cause the space doesn't descend as quickly as before (every 200mb on SD = 30mb of system). I think it should be enough for my needs so yeah, thanks for help and you can close the thread.

Sorry, but I have one more question. My free system space dropped in 2 days from 4mb to 3,5mb. will it stop or continue until it reaches 0? What does fill the memory except Oxygen ROM? What happens if I run out of space?

[Q] Gingerbread RUU gone?

I want to s-off and currenty have hboot 0.80 which means i need to flash a newer RUU, probably 3.14.405.1
the xda dev official htc desire ruu roms link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667) only goes up to 1.21.405.2 so thats no good
There are various links on the web pointing me to : http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152
but this no longer works, i had a look at the source code and the rar file is in there but the link is invalid.
i tried installing htc sync but my desire isnt recognized, even after switching off usb debugging in the phones options.
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
Anyoe have a link to the 3.14.405.1 RUU?

I reuploaded it here.

Chromium said:
I reuploaded it here.
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thank you, i'll give that a whirl

dougsdir said:
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
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Just to clarify, mount2sd does not technically need s-off.
To use any form of A2SD properly, you only need a correctly partitioned sd card, and a ROM which can run init.d scripts to move combinations of apps / dalvik and data to the sd-ext partition. So firstly make sure your sd is partitioned using gparted, or use 4EXT recovery once you are s-off. Do not use minitool or clockworkmod to partition. Then in most cases after use activate A2SD, you keep you apps on internal (don't 'move to SD') to trick them to the sd-ext.
The main reason for gaining s-off is so you can change hboot, which is how your actual nand intnernal memory is laid out. Have a look at the partition tables at alpharev.nl
- Currently you are on stock hboot, which has 250MB /system size, and only ~150MB /data (internal memory). The same as before you s-off or root.
- CM7 has a /system size of ~140MB, so you are wasting 110MB
- If you are s-off, you can switch to cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, which has a 145MB /system, wastes only 5MB
- As a result, your /data goes up from 150MB to 287MB
- It's generally a good idea to keep you app data (e.g. saved game data) on your /data partition (internal memory) for speed and stability. 287MB allows for more :good:
- This combined with properly working A2SD as above, you'll have a lot more space for apps

thanks for your help!
i managed to get the Official RUU and then s-off and root and tried a kitkat rom but it kept rebooting within 2 minutes of use .
To be fair it used to randomly reboot every so often when on Stock Rom years ago, i think i read it was a hardware fault but for some reason with CM7 its stable and never reboots.
So I'm back to CM7 and using that HBoot you recommended.
Im happy with the extra space now so dont think i need to bother partitioning the SD Card and using the build in transfer apps to sd i now have 100MB free and that's with a few apps installed. I really only use the phone as a replacement for an ipod touch and before all this i could only get about 4 or 5 apps loaded and was getting the out of memory alert.
Thanks again!