Develop Bugs

[Q] Cool Sensation v7 Internal Memory full even a2sd is used

Hi, I cannot post to the thread
[ROM][Cool3D Sense 3.0][19 Aug]Cool Sensation v7|Stable|CM7/r2|DATA++|STOCK
because not enough post count.
I am using HTC Desire, I just upgrade this ROM and v7 is just release few days ago. I apply a2sd and it works well. I have check the sd-ext folder and symlink like this:
/data/app -> /sd-ext/app
/data/app-private -> /sd-ext/app-private
/system/app -> /sd-ext/app_s
/data/dalvik-cache -> /sd-ext/dalvik-cache
Now after I full sync, restore all call log and SMS, etc + install 57 apps, my internal memory very low, only 15mb free.
Can I symlink /data/data to /sd-ext/data also?
Is it possible to use Data2Sd instead of a2sd for this ROM?
I like this ROM because it have the new HTC Sense 3.

Do you use the version which corresponds with your hboot?

Wipe dalvik cache and flash this. It's A2SD taken from VU 1.31. It moves dalvik to ext and includes btrfs support.

MatDrOiD said:
Do you use the version which corresponds with your hboot?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh. good point here almost confused hboot with recovery.
I just s-off with Revolitionary to flash 4ExtRecovery. What I know it is based on ClockWorkMod Recovery which added support for ext4, mount disk drive, convert ext3 <-> ext4, aligned partitioning, MD5 check. I use this because I dont have Linux os to create partition on my sd card using gparted.
So mine one should be based on stock hboot but s-off by Revolutionary. The Cool Sensation say it require CM7, Data++ or stock Hboot. Should not be a problem. What I know, hboot is just a bootloader to use fastboot, enter recovery mode or run Android normally.
Why I need to specifically use this hboot?
Does hboot related with any ROM zip being flash?
What the memory size for system, cache and data indicate in the Cool Sensation requirement?
If I really need to reflash and change to CM7 hboot, can I straight away do it without wipe data and reflash the ROM again?
and Does the hboot really give impact to internal memory space decrease over time?
(sorry to many question, this is just my 2nd time reflashing my phone, answer anything you can)
HTC Desire
Hboot S-Off with Revolutionary
4ExtRecovery
Cool Sensation v7 ROM
8Gb Class 2 sd card with Fat32 + 1Gb ext4

mikbe said:
Wipe dalvik cache and flash this. It's A2SD taken from VU 1.31. It moves dalvik to ext and includes btrfs support.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think this is the one in the "Dalvik.Cache To SD-EXT" link with a2sd.KD.zip file name. I apply this already otherwise I will get internal memory critically low in the first boot.
My dalvik-cache already symlink-ed to the /sd-ext/dalvik-cache
Any idea? move /data/data to sd-ext also? or how to change to Data2sd?

CallMeLaNN said:
I think this is the one in the "Dalvik.Cache To SD-EXT" link with a2sd.KD.zip file name. I apply this already otherwise I will get internal memory critically low in the first boot.
My dalvik-cache already symlink-ed to the /sd-ext/dalvik-cache
Any idea? move /data/data to sd-ext also? or how to change to Data2sd?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can't change. That file I attached is not the same as one in coolexe's thread. I have CM7r2, ~80 apps and only 100 MB spent on data partition.

mikbe said:
You can't change. That file I attached is not the same as one in coolexe's thread. I have CM7r2, ~80 apps and only 100 MB spent on data partition.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, let me try and I will response back here later.
anyway how you get this version of file?
did you have a reference where?

CallMeLaNN said:
Ok, let me try and I will response back here later.
anyway how you get this version of file?
did you have a reference where?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I modified it myself. It's the VU 1.31 A2SD script with btrfs support. I'd say CM7r2 HBOOT is more user friendly than stock.

ok, I will try CM7r2 hboot then. I just realize the space become decrease over time. during I open this thread 15mb free. last few hours ago 8 mb and now only 7mb remaining. something went wrong here. I try to remove all apps see if it consistently decrease or maybe I need to reflash or change hboot.

CallMeLaNN said:
ok, I will try CM7r2 hboot then. I just realize the space become decrease over time. during I open this thread 15mb free. last few hours ago 8 mb and now only 7mb remaining. something went wrong here. I try to remove all apps see if it consistently decrease or maybe I need to reflash or change hboot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Anyway actually I can have 200 over apps in this phone before, just using ModaCo for Froyo with app2sd+. Now I can post the thread.

Reading the CS thread from 22th Aug until today. now I understood why we need to change hboot. It is because hboot defines the system, cache and data internal partition size. I dont want to stuck on 147Mb even I use a2sd, sd ext4 and symlinked well, so I will change to CM7r2 to get about 300mb of data size first.
Then do what ckpv5 advice to improve performance and have a lot of space. Wish me luck.

[Q] Memory and Ram Issue on InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1

I recently installed InsertCoin's CM7 HBOOT/STOCK 1.1.1, after installing my internal memory has become really low and i only get 120mb of ram when i got 220mb on the official 2.2. I have partitioned my sd card using gparted. I made a normal fat32 and a EXT4. Do i need to make a EXT3 partition? also how would i know if the apps are on my sd card since i cannot move them manually with application manager. Please can you help me. Thanks
Phone info:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off using Revolutionary
Rooted with Unrevoked
Current Rom: Official HTC 2.2

Its normal to have low than froyo couse its gb android
And no u dont need ext3 just ext4
If u wanna know if ur apps goes to ur ext4 in ur sd card
Go to market search quick sysktem info pro
U will notice A2SD PARTITION label under basic info
It will tell u how much used and how much free
Dont get mad of free 120 mb i have 87 app installed
All workes fine
Hope iam usefull

do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.

ruhelking1 said:
do i have to move the apps to the sd card with the application manager because after installing less than 15 apps i get low memory notifications, i had like 40kb internal memory. Using the System Info app i can see that my ext4/a2sd is being used.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How big ist your ext 4 Partition?

i made a 2gb etx4 partition using gparted. I think the apps are going on to the ext4 partition from the memory reading on System Info but im still getting low memory notification

i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see

Just to refresh
MY PHONE INFO:
HTC Desire Sim Free
S-off with Revolutionary
Rooted using Unrevoked
ClockworkMod Recovery
Currently on Instertcoin 1.1.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940)
16gb Memory card = 12.9gb Fat32 and 2gb EXT4
Wiped Data and everything else before 1st install (Dalvik cache,cache)

ruhelking1 said:
i read somewhere that i might need to move dalvik cache to sd. do i need to do this. i have not done anything other than what i have said in my original post. If needs be i can upload some screenshots of quick system info or anything u might need to see
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.

grandem said:
Try the a2sd+ gui and try to move dalvik cache to SD.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how would i move the dalvik cache. Also if i use the A2SD+ version of the rom, would i install it exactly the same as CM7 or would i have to do something different pre or post install?

SOLVED!!!!
i flashed the CM7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl by downloading the hboot, naming it PB99IMG.zip and using clockwork recovery to update the hboot. then i installed Insertcoins 1.1.2 rom.
WARNING!!!!
FLASHING A NEW HBOOT WILL MAKE YOUR OLD NANDROID BACKUP REDUNDANT, YOU CAN ONLY USE ROMS WITH CM7

[Q] Insertcoin - clean install but low internal ram?

Im running a desire on Insertcoin CM7 / 1.1.4.
I factory wiped the phone, installed the full 1.1.3 then immediately ran the 1.1.4 update.
My SD card has a 1gb ext4 partition created with gparted.
When using the phone even with NO apps installed i only have 24mb internal memory showing as free.
Using quick system info it shows "A2SD Storage, 1.01gb, free 589mb" and "Internal Storage free 24mb)
Using a terminal emulator and ls - l /data it shows the sym link to /sdcard/system as all OK.
So the question is what is eating my internal ram with noting installed? Also what is using 400mb+ of the sdcard system partition on a clean install?
As it stands the phone is near unusable as even 1 app triggers a low space warning and the usual non-sync and other problems.
What another hard reset do the job or any other suggestions? On first impression the ext4 seems to be being used (by something big!) but the internal memory starts out life full and gets worse.

I had the same issue. Then I switched to the A2SD+ STOCK HBOOT rom and it fixed the problem
Hope that helps.

How do i go about doing that? Do i need to mess with S-OFF and other boot loaders?
Is it just a case of replacing the CM7-insertcoin zip file with the A2SD+ or do i need to change hboot, partition, remove the CM7 recovery and so on?
Ive just done another factory wipe, reinstall and clean the phone has 54mb. Ive installed 2 apps and the size of them is coming out of internal memory - even though its showing SD card is used for something it seems the full size of the app still comes out of the internal ram.
Same checks as before, its showing 640mb free out of 1.01gb on the ext4 partition, ls -l is showing app -> /system/sd/app.
Internal storage 45mb free out of 148mb.

Just download the stock version
simple
CM7 is for those with cm7 hboot
Read a noob guide front to back, knowledge helps For examply... apps2sd will still use internal space (less than without it but still some)
Look up data2ext

Just curious.. what HBOOT are you currently using on your phone? Is it Stock or CM7/r2?

No idea.
Its a stock desire 2.2 which i rooted with unrevoked.
The root gave me CWM recovery etc but no idea if its changed hboot or not.

stankyou said:
Just curious.. what HBOOT are you currently using on your phone? Is it Stock or CM7/r2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
he's obviously on stock ...
gnirtS said:
No idea.
Its a stock desire 2.2 which i rooted with unrevoked.
The root gave me CWM recovery etc but no idea if its changed hboot or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
see my reply further up

Yeah follow MrBigB's post.
If you would wanna stay in Stock hboot, then download the correct Insertcoin ROM.

Cheers all, ive put the A2SD+ version on and its working perfectly. No idea why CM7 didnt seem to.

Nice! The CM7 version didn't work well for you because that rom was optimized to run on CM7 hboot and not Stock.

[Q] Memory card "Read Only" error after sd-ext in mildwild oxygen v4.9

I Recently installed a custom ROM "Mildwild based on Oxygen v4.9" to get rid of the annoying "Low memory" error. after installing i booted into 4ext recovery and parted sd-ext (1.5GB). After this i installed mounts2sd to move all application data and dalvik cache to sd-ext.
whole process went smoothly but now i see a new strange error of "memory card is not mounted or available".
i just see the contents of memory card through file manager but cant copy,delete any file.
any idea,whats going'on?

That Rom should already have a built in script to move apps and dalvik cache to sd, no need for mounts2sd.
You also need to be on cm7r2 hboot to maximise space.
My guess is that you moved app data to sd card which is best kept on internal for stability.
In your position try running mounts2sd again, but select only apps and dalvik. Then reboot into recovery and wipe dalvik cache.
If that doesn't work full wipe, change hboot of you haven't already, and install without mounts2sd

Rom has a script in it. You shouldn't have to install anything. It works automatically
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

eddiehk6 said:
That Rom should already have a built in script to move apps and dalvik cache to sd, no need for mounts2sd.
You also need to be on cm7r2 hboot to maximise space.
My guess is that you moved app data to sd card which is best kept on internal for stability.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes I moved all apps data to sdext,
but there is no other way bcuz htc desire has only 255MB internal memory and after installing several apps it shows "low memory error" due to apps data in phone memory.
any other safe way to free up phone memory by moving apps data?

1gouravgg said:
yes I moved all apps data to sdext,
but there is no other way bcuz htc desire has only 255MB internal memory and after installing several apps it shows "low memory error" due to apps data in phone memory.
any other safe way to free up phone memory by moving apps data?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so you didnt set it up correctly. you are supposed to move the actual applications as they take up the most space, not app data.
have you tried what i suggested? are you also on cm7r2 hboot?
- run mounts2sd again
- select to move applications and dalvik cache (not data, keep data on internal)
- reboot into recovery and wipe dalvik, reboot and let it rebuilt on sd-ext.
if this doesn't work, then full wipe and reinstall without mounts2sd...as stated before, the rom has a built in script to automatically move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
you can use another app like 'diskusage' to browse your partitions after everything it set up correctly.

eddiehk6 said:
- run mounts2sd again
- select to move applications and dalvik cache (not data, keep data on internal)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is there any way to move 'app data' bcuz I use large no. of apps and phone memory can't store more than 144MB of app data.?

1gouravgg said:
is there any way to move 'app data' bcuz I use large no. of apps and phone memory can't store more than 144MB of app data.?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you didnt answer my other query. i believe you are still on stock hboot? previously you said 255MB now you say 144MB, you need to make up your mind (if you haven't changed hboot then you are still on stock hboot)
nandroid backup, then switch to cm7r2 hboot, search for guides on how to flash them, recommend through fastboot.
this will give you 287MB of internal memory which will be able to store a lot more. if you still need space, one way i know is through titanium backup, you can long press on an app and select "move app data to sd", you can do this for individual apps.
you might as well use most of your internal memory for most app data because it's generally faster and more stable. use sd-ext for apps and dalvik. there's also no point in keeping your internal memory completely empty, it's there to be used:good:
this should solve your 'low internal memory' part, not sure if this will fix your read only errors actually. i hope it's not a bad sd card after all this!

eddiehk6 said:
you didnt answer my other query. i believe you are still on stock hboot? previously you said 255MB now you say 144MB, you need to make up your mind (if you haven't changed hboot then you are still on stock hboot)
nandroid backup, then switch to cm7r2 hboot, search for guides on how to flash them, recommend through fastboot.
this will give you 287MB of internal memory which will be able to store a lot more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
pardon dr..
my desire is still on stock hboot,I want to insert cm7r2 hboot., and i tried but I got totaly confused with hboot guides.
can u guide me to insert hboot cm7r2.?
and would insertion of cm7r2 hboot affect my present apps on internal memory and card?

eddiehk6 said:
hope it's not a bad sd card after all this!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nop,I can't take chance wid mmc,
I purchased it from samsung store 16gb @ 12$

1gouravgg said:
pardon dr..
my desire is still on stock hboot,I want to insert cm7r2 hboot., and i tried but I got totaly confused with hboot guides.
can u guide me to insert hboot cm7r2.?
and would insertion of cm7r2 hboot affect my present apps on internal memory and card?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will need s-off to do this:
1. Go to http://alpharev.nl/ and download the PB99IMG for the cm7r2 hboot.
2. Once it has downloaded, rename it to PB99IMG and put it on the root of your sd card (not in any folders)
3. Boot into hboot(volume down + power). Wait a bit while it searches for the file
4. When it finds the file it will ask if you want to install. Press volume up to install. The reboot.

chromium96 said:
You will need s-off to do this:
1. Go to http://alpharev.nl/ and download the PB99IMG for the cm7r2 hboot.
2. Once it has downloaded, rename it to PB99IMG and put it on the root of your sd card (not in any folders)
3. Boot into hboot(volume down + power). Wait a bit while it searches for the file
4. When it finds the file it will ask if you want to install. Press volume up to install. The reboot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
does it effect my current status of phone.,will my apps remain in memory?

1gouravgg said:
does it effect my current status of phone.,will my apps remain in memory?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will have to format everything except for your SD card before and after changing hboots.
So yes, all your phones internal memory will be wiped.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

1gouravgg said:
does it effect my current status of phone.,will my apps remain in memory?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you don't have to lose anything, follow the instructions:
eddiehk6 said:
nandroid backup, then switch to cm7r2 hboot, search for guides on how to flash them, recommend through fastboot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you didn't try and search for guides, chromium has kindly copied another way to do it for you :good:
so once you have changed hboot, full wipe and restore the nandroid, so you will be in exactly the same state as before, just with more memory
i'm still not sure you understand what you're doing, i recommend slowing down and reading a little more

dvsk69 said:
You will have to format everything except for your SD card before and after changing hboots.
So yes, all your phones internal memory will be wiped.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thnx

1gouravgg said:
can I take nandroid bakup before booting hboot cm7r2 and then restore it after process ? it will save my time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can try and should work as long as your current ROMs /system size fits into the cm7r2 hboot size.

[Q] Gingerbread RUU gone?

I want to s-off and currenty have hboot 0.80 which means i need to flash a newer RUU, probably 3.14.405.1
the xda dev official htc desire ruu roms link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667) only goes up to 1.21.405.2 so thats no good
There are various links on the web pointing me to : http://www.htcdev.com/process/legal_download/152
but this no longer works, i had a look at the source code and the rar file is in there but the link is invalid.
i tried installing htc sync but my desire isnt recognized, even after switching off usb debugging in the phones options.
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
Anyoe have a link to the 3.14.405.1 RUU?

I reuploaded it here.

Chromium said:
I reuploaded it here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you, i'll give that a whirl

dougsdir said:
my phone is currently rooted and running a GB Cyanogenomd rom but i only get a couple of apps installed and then it runs out of memory and Mounts2SD needs S-Off
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just to clarify, mount2sd does not technically need s-off.
To use any form of A2SD properly, you only need a correctly partitioned sd card, and a ROM which can run init.d scripts to move combinations of apps / dalvik and data to the sd-ext partition. So firstly make sure your sd is partitioned using gparted, or use 4EXT recovery once you are s-off. Do not use minitool or clockworkmod to partition. Then in most cases after use activate A2SD, you keep you apps on internal (don't 'move to SD') to trick them to the sd-ext.
The main reason for gaining s-off is so you can change hboot, which is how your actual nand intnernal memory is laid out. Have a look at the partition tables at alpharev.nl
- Currently you are on stock hboot, which has 250MB /system size, and only ~150MB /data (internal memory). The same as before you s-off or root.
- CM7 has a /system size of ~140MB, so you are wasting 110MB
- If you are s-off, you can switch to cm7r2 hboot using fastboot, which has a 145MB /system, wastes only 5MB
- As a result, your /data goes up from 150MB to 287MB
- It's generally a good idea to keep you app data (e.g. saved game data) on your /data partition (internal memory) for speed and stability. 287MB allows for more :good:
- This combined with properly working A2SD as above, you'll have a lot more space for apps

thanks for your help!
i managed to get the Official RUU and then s-off and root and tried a kitkat rom but it kept rebooting within 2 minutes of use .
To be fair it used to randomly reboot every so often when on Stock Rom years ago, i think i read it was a hardware fault but for some reason with CM7 its stable and never reboots.
So I'm back to CM7 and using that HBoot you recommended.
Im happy with the extra space now so dont think i need to bother partitioning the SD Card and using the build in transfer apps to sd i now have 100MB free and that's with a few apps installed. I really only use the phone as a replacement for an ipod touch and before all this i could only get about 4 or 5 apps loaded and was getting the out of memory alert.
Thanks again!