I want to S-OFF my phone, but its a pain to start fresh again, so I wondered is it possible to do a NAND backup, flash a RUU, S-OFF my phone and restore the NAND backup to get back my original ROM except with S-OFF?
S-Off does nothing, just you can root your phone, if you rooted, you can do nand backups. If you are s-on you cant do any of these steps.
S-off back to S-on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251
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So I'm very confused about this rooting business. I am scared to root my Desire, mostly because of bricking my phone and losing the warranty but I need more battery as it sucks and Gingerbread is ever so tempting . I basically want to root my phone and flash gingerbread with the possibility of over/underclocking it when I feel the need.
This is what it says when I boot holding the power and volume key in:
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
I bought it from Orange brand new and it's got froyo 2.2, software number 2.17.61.3 on it.
Basically all I want to know is will using unrevoked work, or do I need to mess around with a goldcard etc and what are the advantages to making the device S-OFF?
unrEVOked will root it, no issues, but you won't be able to go back to stock as the Orange RUU isn't available so you'll need a gold card if you need to need to go back to stock (which would have to be a non-Orange one)
Don't worry about S-OFF at the mo as that's a lot more technical than rooting
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated
Ahh yes I've noticed that pretty much all other competing carriers RUU's for the desire are available to download except Oranges, why is this?
If I was to flash Gingerbread, I would need to flash the recovery to clockworkmod and perform a nandroid backup and then proceed with flashing the Gingerbread ROM, is this correct?
RossCee16 said:
If I was to flash Gingerbread, I would need to flash the recovery to clockworkmod and perform a nandroid backup and then proceed with flashing the Gingerbread ROM, is this correct?
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The recovery is ClockworkMod, if you nandroid first, then factory reset wiping all caches then installed your ROM you'd be fine. If you wanted to revert back to your stock ROM I'd suggest using your stock RUU which will wipe off the root, re-root then nandroid back and you'll be as you were.
Maybe you could just install a custom Sense ROM then run your Sense nandroid on top of that, but the safest thing to do would be to use the RUU.
Hello, I have rooted my buzz but now i need warranty and i have to downgrade hboot to 1.01 (stock) and ruu to stock, i have found ruu at shipped roms but need hboot with s-on and stock rom with shipped t9 apps and all of this because of warranty. Is this any way to do that?
Did you get S-OFF using an XTC Clip or was it using Revolutionary? If it was using an XTC Clip, there's no way to get back S-ON as far as I know, and, if it was using Revolutionary, then, you will need to extract the HBoot File from the RUU (It's a .nb0 file), and then follow this guide to get back to HBoot 1.01.0001 S-ON:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251
Apart from this, flashing an RUU will recover the stock ROM completely, including the Stock apps.
I was using revolutionary and i have also backup of original android from stock with boot.img recovery etc. i'll try that way that You gived
In that case, you can also use Fastboot to recover your original boot, recovery, data, system etc, and then follow that guide to get back a S-ON HBoot. In that way, you need not flash an RUU.
If I restore a NAND backup I restore HBoot too or HBoot remain untouched?
Before backup i had hboot 0.8, now i've 1.01.0001 and I would restore a nand backup.. Hboot remain 1.01.0001?
You got Clockworkmod Recovery on HBoot 1.01.0001?
Anyway, a nandroid restore will not touch your HBoot.
I've update hboot to 1.01.0001
now i want root the phone and take S-OFF.. after that i want restore my rom (DEV_NULL rom)
Can i do?
Yes, you can.
BTW, after getting S-OFF, your HBoot will be 6.01.1022
ah ok..i want hboot 1.01.0001 only for take s-off.. if after s-off my hboot is 6.01.1022 is a problem?
No. You can get back to 1.01.0001 (or 0.80.000x) at any time you want by using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160251
you are very kind!! thanks alot! i've rooted and s-off my phone and now i've hboot 6.01.1022.. now i restore my rom from NAND bakup..
Thank you very much again and sorry for my bad english!
Hi. I am currently using Supernova Rom but want to try Runny 3.5. I was thinking I would use a completely new memory card for Runny so I can leave my current memory card untouched (thought this would be best because Supernova uses Data2SD). I will obviously perform a nandroid backup.
1. When going to CM7r2 hboot for Runny is there a way to backup my current hboot to flash when going back to Supernova? Am I correct in saying the hboot is modified when you s-off so to remain s-off if going back to Supernova I can't just flash a stock hboot or I will be s-on?
OR would I have to go back to a stock RUU ROM and root and s-off again and then restore nandroid backup?
2. What exactly does a nandroid backup backup on your phone? Does it backup hboot and kernel?
Thanks
In response to my own question. At http://alpharev.nl/ is says if you are already s-off just flash a hboot from the website so would this be "Bravo Stock"? Also when flashing CM7r2 hboot will I remain s-off?
If you flash a different hboot, you will remain s-off. This will not put you back to s-on. So you could flash CM7r2 try any amount of rom's you wanted, then flash a different hboot and try a rom that requires that hboot. You will remain s-off unless you flash a RUU.
A nandroid backup will backup your kernel and everything on your phone at the time of backup.
Hope it helps.
Thanks. Seems reasonably simple then. I will probably have a look at Runny tomorrow i reckon.
I want to S-off my Desire using revolutionary.io. I see you need a later HBOOT than I have (0.80) so I intend to upgrade it using an RUU then use revolutionary to S-off it.
So, that I don't have to mess around restoring all my apps and settings can I do a nandroid backup of my current configuration, then use the RUU to upgrade and wipe it, use revolutionary to s-off it, then restore the nandroid backup to get my system back?
Essentially what I want is the system I have now, but with S-off, and am hoping nandroid can make the process quicker.
Thanks for any help.
Ta.
If you have an old hboot, try and check http://alpharev.nl
That way you can S-Off without doing the RUU stuff.
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If you have an old hboot, try and check http://alpharev.nl
That way you can S-Off without doing the RUU stuff.
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Cheers! I might do that. Is that as safe as revolutionary? It seems there are a lot more warnings on that site about bricking your phone...
Well without alpharev, there wouldn't be revolutionary
Yes it has full of warnings as this procedure can brick your device. If you are using a ROM with any data2sd or any scripts for moving system and app files to SD then there is also a warning for that.
They say that this procedure will take time specially if you already have a lot of apps installed. And sometimes people get impatient and reboot during the process bricking their phones.
Long time ago when I used this, I did a nandbackup of my current rom, then flashed a fresh Cyanogenmod rom then used alpharev to s-off. It just took me around 10mins or so since there were basically minimal apps installed. Once s-oo procedure is complete, I just did a nand restore afterwards.
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Long time ago when I used this, I did a nandbackup of my current rom, then flashed a fresh Cyanogenmod rom then used alpharev to s-off. It just took me around 10mins or so since there were basically minimal apps installed. Once s-oo procedure is complete, I just did a nand restore afterwards.
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That seems like a good idea. I'll give that a go. Cheers.