[Q] Want to try ROM with option of restoring everything - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi. I am currently using Supernova Rom but want to try Runny 3.5. I was thinking I would use a completely new memory card for Runny so I can leave my current memory card untouched (thought this would be best because Supernova uses Data2SD). I will obviously perform a nandroid backup.
1. When going to CM7r2 hboot for Runny is there a way to backup my current hboot to flash when going back to Supernova? Am I correct in saying the hboot is modified when you s-off so to remain s-off if going back to Supernova I can't just flash a stock hboot or I will be s-on?
OR would I have to go back to a stock RUU ROM and root and s-off again and then restore nandroid backup?
2. What exactly does a nandroid backup backup on your phone? Does it backup hboot and kernel?
Thanks

In response to my own question. At http://alpharev.nl/ is says if you are already s-off just flash a hboot from the website so would this be "Bravo Stock"? Also when flashing CM7r2 hboot will I remain s-off?

If you flash a different hboot, you will remain s-off. This will not put you back to s-on. So you could flash CM7r2 try any amount of rom's you wanted, then flash a different hboot and try a rom that requires that hboot. You will remain s-off unless you flash a RUU.
A nandroid backup will backup your kernel and everything on your phone at the time of backup.
Hope it helps.

Thanks. Seems reasonably simple then. I will probably have a look at Runny tomorrow i reckon.

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[Q] Going back to stock rom - questions

I rooted my desire with unrevoked a while back, used alpharev to get s-off then flashed oxygen rom with data2ext then added on top.
I want to go back to the stock rom, for which I have a nandroid backup taken after originally rooting. Can I simply use clockwork recovery to restore? Will I still have s-off and can I reflash data2ext back on top of the restored backup?
First you need to change back to the bravo 1.5 partition layout. Then you should be able to restore the nandroid, you won't lose S-off. No idea if data2whatever is gone work.
Technically you don't have to change the MTD as this will be reset when you flash the RUU. Best to do it in case, though
EddyOS said:
Technically you don't have to change the MTD as this will be reset when you flash the RUU. Best to do it in case, though
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The way I read his post he does not want to run a RUU but just nandroid back to a stock rom. Then you do need to change back other wise the nandroid won't fit.
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Thanks for your comments so far - can you explain (or give me a suitable link) that explains what I need to do to 'change back'?
Never mind,I thought you flashed the oxygen hboot, which you didn't. You can just restore the nandroid.
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Rooting dilemma :S

So I'm very confused about this rooting business. I am scared to root my Desire, mostly because of bricking my phone and losing the warranty but I need more battery as it sucks and Gingerbread is ever so tempting . I basically want to root my phone and flash gingerbread with the possibility of over/underclocking it when I feel the need.
This is what it says when I boot holding the power and volume key in:
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
I bought it from Orange brand new and it's got froyo 2.2, software number 2.17.61.3 on it.
Basically all I want to know is will using unrevoked work, or do I need to mess around with a goldcard etc and what are the advantages to making the device S-OFF?
unrEVOked will root it, no issues, but you won't be able to go back to stock as the Orange RUU isn't available so you'll need a gold card if you need to need to go back to stock (which would have to be a non-Orange one)
Don't worry about S-OFF at the mo as that's a lot more technical than rooting
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated
Ahh yes I've noticed that pretty much all other competing carriers RUU's for the desire are available to download except Oranges, why is this?
If I was to flash Gingerbread, I would need to flash the recovery to clockworkmod and perform a nandroid backup and then proceed with flashing the Gingerbread ROM, is this correct?
RossCee16 said:
If I was to flash Gingerbread, I would need to flash the recovery to clockworkmod and perform a nandroid backup and then proceed with flashing the Gingerbread ROM, is this correct?
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The recovery is ClockworkMod, if you nandroid first, then factory reset wiping all caches then installed your ROM you'd be fine. If you wanted to revert back to your stock ROM I'd suggest using your stock RUU which will wipe off the root, re-root then nandroid back and you'll be as you were.
Maybe you could just install a custom Sense ROM then run your Sense nandroid on top of that, but the safest thing to do would be to use the RUU.

[Q] how do i flash radio img without s-off

I'm using leedroid 1.4.1 and i've updated to Buzz 1.1.4 kernel. However, i didn't update my radio before that
I've tried using the easy s-off to achieve eng s-off so that i can flash my radio to the recommended one. However, the easy s-off tool is apparently not compatible with my current ROM/Kernel
is there any way around this? my battery is really quite bad and i hope that by flashing a new radio, my battery will improve.
Hope some expert can help me!!
worntilltorn said:
I'm using leedroid 1.4.1 and i've updated to Buzz 1.1.4 kernel. However, i didn't update my radio before that
I've tried using the easy s-off to achieve eng s-off so that i can flash my radio to the recommended one. However, the easy s-off tool is apparently not compatible with my current ROM/Kernel
is there any way around this? my battery is really quite bad and i hope that by flashing a new radio, my battery will improve.
Hope some expert can help me!!
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you can flash a radio from recovery, but the .img has to be packaged up in the .zip correctly, maybe you should pm someone with more knowledge about this, i also have only radio s-off and would like to know
If I had known better..I wld have done the Eng s-off before I did the flashing of the firmwares.
No idea that radio will be necessary to update..
You can reflash a custom rom with 1. 32 base and then you can attempt to achieve eng s-off. Do not forget to nandroid prior of reflashing so you can revert back to Lee's 1.4.1.
Cheers
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD
mariosraptor said:
You can reflash a custom rom with 1. 32 base and then you can attempt to achieve eng s-off. Do not forget to nandroid prior of reflashing so you can revert back to Lee's 1.4.1.
Cheers
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD
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good idea batman
mariosraptor said:
You can reflash a custom rom with 1. 32 base and then you can attempt to achieve eng s-off. Do not forget to nandroid prior of reflashing so you can revert back to Lee's 1.4.1.
Cheers
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD
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oh..do i just flash as per normal or would i have to downgrade using the method as in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
Mine is already rooted so i should be able to just flash 1.32, get eng s-off and then come back to 1.4.1?
When you say revert back to 1.4.1, does it mean that i just run recovery after i've achieved eng s-off and i can go back to 1.4.1?
worntilltorn said:
When you say revert back to 1.4.1, does it mean that i just run recovery after i've achieved eng s-off and i can go back to 1.4.1?
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Exactly that
what about downgrading to 1.32? just flash?
As long as you are rooted your real base is 1.32. You do not have anything to downgrade. You just flash a 1.32 custom rom. When i say revert i mean the nandroid backup that you create from recovery.
After finishing the s-off just boot into recovery and select backup/restore and then select restore. After it finishes restoring it will be againn at Lees 1.4.1
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what about downgrading to 1.32? just flash?
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okay..now i'm trying to get back to 1.32..hope it works!
somehow it doesnt work..
i used modaco r2 to go back to 1.32 and tried to s-off. it says successful. after which, i restored nandroid and tried to flash the radio. it still doesnt work..get stuck at the sending radio part.
did i do something wrong?
1. Nandroid backup
2. Go back to 1.32
3. Radio S-off
4. Flash radio
5. Recover nandroid
thanks..i'll try to do that when i have access to ADB..in office at the moment.

[Q] new alpharev hboots

Now that Alpharev has come out with new sized Hboots, there is a new one called a downgrader. There doesn't seem to be an explanation for this. I flashed cm7r2 before and I would now like to go back to Stock. Do I flash the downgrader before I flash the Stock? What happens to a nandroid backup of a cm7r2 rom? If the Stock Hboot flash does not go as planned, will it still restore?
The new hboots are like locked and no matter what, if you use an RUU, the hboot won't be overwritten, so therefore to use one you need to use the downgrader so you can use an RUU.
The backup will be on your SD card.

[Q] how to flash stock hboot after cm7/r2

i have flashed cm7/r2 Hboot . can i return to stock Hboot . how i can do that safely . thank you
there should be no problem, just do it the same way you did flash cm7
only thing is you have to flash also a rom(sense ones) that needs stock hboot,
else you have to much system but to less data space.
but i would suggest you to try "Insertcoin Cm7" Rom, one of the best Sense Roms out there. So you dont have to switch to stock again.
best wishes
ps.: always do nandroid backups!
crendot said:
there should be no problem, just do it the same way you did flash cm7
only thing is you have to flash also a rom(sense ones) that needs stock hboot,
else you have to much system but to less data space.
but i would suggest you to try "Insertcoin Cm7" Rom, one of the best Sense Roms out there. So you dont have to switch to stock again.
best wishes
ps.: always do nandroid backups!
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thank you for your advise
mimomimo said:
i have flashed cm7/r2 Hboot . can i return to stock Hboot . how i can do that safely . thank you
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You need to flash the downgrader file first and then the stock hboot.
super34 said:
You need to flash the downgrader file first and then the stock hboot.
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Only when you flash the hboot by ruu or ota. If you flash stock hboot by alpharev, you do not have to flash downgrader. But there won't occur any problem when one flashes downgrader first.
i have downgrade the cm7r2 hboot to stock, flashing before the downgrader and then the stock hboot. but it's remained the version of cm7r2 hboot (6.93.1002).

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