So I'm very confused about this rooting business. I am scared to root my Desire, mostly because of bricking my phone and losing the warranty but I need more battery as it sucks and Gingerbread is ever so tempting . I basically want to root my phone and flash gingerbread with the possibility of over/underclocking it when I feel the need.
This is what it says when I boot holding the power and volume key in:
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
I bought it from Orange brand new and it's got froyo 2.2, software number 2.17.61.3 on it.
Basically all I want to know is will using unrevoked work, or do I need to mess around with a goldcard etc and what are the advantages to making the device S-OFF?
unrEVOked will root it, no issues, but you won't be able to go back to stock as the Orange RUU isn't available so you'll need a gold card if you need to need to go back to stock (which would have to be a non-Orange one)
Don't worry about S-OFF at the mo as that's a lot more technical than rooting
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated
Ahh yes I've noticed that pretty much all other competing carriers RUU's for the desire are available to download except Oranges, why is this?
If I was to flash Gingerbread, I would need to flash the recovery to clockworkmod and perform a nandroid backup and then proceed with flashing the Gingerbread ROM, is this correct?
RossCee16 said:
If I was to flash Gingerbread, I would need to flash the recovery to clockworkmod and perform a nandroid backup and then proceed with flashing the Gingerbread ROM, is this correct?
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The recovery is ClockworkMod, if you nandroid first, then factory reset wiping all caches then installed your ROM you'd be fine. If you wanted to revert back to your stock ROM I'd suggest using your stock RUU which will wipe off the root, re-root then nandroid back and you'll be as you were.
Maybe you could just install a custom Sense ROM then run your Sense nandroid on top of that, but the safest thing to do would be to use the RUU.
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Rooted and have S-Off and H-Off now.
Flashed new Kernel.
So if I do a Nandroid Backup now.
Does the backup retain my S-Off and H-Off?
marshy73 said:
Rooted and have S-Off and H-Off now.
Flashed new Kernel.
So if I do a Nandroid Backup now.
Does the backup retain my S-Off and H-Off?
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It doesn't backup those two partitions at all. So as long as you don't do anything to them after the nandroid they will remain.
Thanks for the response.
What I really meant was that niw I've got S-off and H-boot done. If I'd to do a nandroid backup and explore sone other things (e.g upgrade to current OTA rom).
If I'd recover from this nandroid backup, would my recovered ROM srill have S-off and H-boot?
I'm thinking that I'd still be able to recover root and S-off capabilities but perhaps not H-boot.
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marshy73 said:
Thanks for the response.
What I really meant was that niw I've got S-off and H-boot done. If I'd to do a nandroid backup and explore sone other things (e.g upgrade to current OTA rom).
If I'd recover from this nandroid backup, would my recovered ROM srill have S-off and H-boot?
I'm thinking that I'd still be able to recover root and S-off capabilities but perhaps not H-boot.
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Why don't you make a Radio S-OFF/Super CID also? And flash the update using the guide that allows you to keep root, Eng S-OFF, and H-boot capabilities? That's exactly what I did, and it works fine.
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So I need super CID?
I'm still new at this stuff so will go dig up in it. If you could direct me to a specific thread it'll be great! Thanks.
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^^ sure thing buddy first this guide for root(super user access), h-boot eng s-off. Don't worry about the top section on custom ROMS. Just start from where it says Method 1 and go to the end of the page:
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/desire_hd_installing_roms
then this guide for Radio s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
Make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before loading the 1.72xxx update/ROM or any custom ROMs based on 1.72xxx build or otherwise you will not be able to get radio s-off and will also loose full root access. To test s-off do this. Power off device. Hold down volume down and tap power button once to enter bootloader. Once it loads up it should say eng s-off at the top. Then go to system info (or something like that) using the volume up & down to change up or down and tap the power button to select. Under system info it will say CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea. If it says anything different such as next to CID you do not have radio s-off. For example CID-VODAP021 is s-on stock Vodafone Australia. CID:HTC__001 is stock unbranded with s-on.
marshy73 said:
I'm thinking that I'd still be able to recover root and S-off capabilities but perhaps not hboot
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Hit the nail on the head you did
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Morning people. Just have question in relation to unrooting h3g UK branded desire. I need to send back to get q minor hardware problem fixed. My software info is as follows.
andriod version 2.2
baseband version 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
kernel version 2.632.15-g5d39305 htc-kernel at and18-2#1
build number 2.25.771.1 CL254759 release-keys
*software number 2.25.771.1
*browser version webkit 3.1
I also have the newer model which when rooted via unrevoked does not give s-off.
I have a goldcard and would just like to get a definitive answer. Will using the Rom for h3g on shipped roms website unroot my phone. Bear in mind I cannot back up my current Rom
thanx in advance!
the at is the sign but can't post it due to link rules for new users1
Yes, it will unroot your phone.
Swyped from Oxygen
Thanx for tje reply. Any suggestions on which one to use. Also how do I use my gold card?
Use the latest h3g ruu which you can find on http://shipped-roms.com
Put your goldcard in your desire, run the downloaded exe and follow the instructions on the screen.
Swyped from Oxygen
Thanx for the tips. It a real comfort having u guys around to put our noob minds at ease. Big help!
Actually could I ask one more thing. How would o go about rooting again. This time I can't flash a new Rom. I want to be able to back up my current Rom before using alpharev to change boot. Any suggestions?
To run alpharev, you need root access. If you have root access (probably with using unrevoked), you have a revovery with witch you can backup your current system.
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So it should be. But due to my model I can't flash recovery. All that happens is after selecting recovery in CWM the screen goes black and I have to take tje battery out to start the phone. I done some research on tje web and it is due to the model of desire I have. UNREVOKED does not take s-off. I know I have to use alpharev to correct it but ad I can't flash recovery I am nervous to try. Any suggestions?
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Which hardwarerevision (pvt number) does your desire have (boot into hboot, line like "bravo pvt...")
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hiya been in work all daym just sat down.
So yeah this is the info:
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT- 0.93.0001
Microp-051d
Touch Panel-SYNW0101
Radio-5.11.05.14
Any help you can give would be great!
Clockwork does not work with pvt4 desires. You have to flash amonra recovery.
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aaaaaa!! was looking at that, so i flash amonra and i can then flash recover. good. i canthen take the risk using alpharev. will the ruu work with pvt4 and the hboot that i havegot. saw something that indicates that it may need downgrading?
Yes, the ruu will work with your phone.
But i think you getting something wrong:
You cannot backup your hboot with recovery. If the s-off procedure by alpharev fails, your phone might be bricked. Now backup can protect you from this, because the bootloader (which gets changed in this s-off procedure) is the absolute base of your phone. If this one is bricked, your phone is not more than a paperweight.
in the meantime i have managed to replace CWM with AmonRa. I now have a current rom back up. If some thing goes wrong with the alpharev procedure, will this recovery image allow me to restore to the current state i have now. It sounds like it won't if i am getting you correctly?
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in the meantime i have managed to replace CWM with AmonRa. I now have a current rom back up. If some thing goes wrong with the alpharev procedure, will this recovery image allow me to restore to the current state i have now. It sounds like it won't if i am getting you correctly?
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The s-off procedure does not touch your phone or rather its current state.
I do not write the same thing a second time. My second last past answered your question. Maybe it's too late.
just making sure. sounds risky can i flash custom roms without the s-off?
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Clockwork does not work with pvt4 desires. You have to flash amonra recovery.
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HI, i just would like to say that i have desire PVT 4 from 3 in uk as well and CWM have always worked for me. I guess than im lucky or just not every device is same.
take care
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just making sure. sounds risky can i flash custom roms without the s-off?
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Sure.
Sent from Oxygen
Thanx for ur advise and patience over the last couple of days your help has given me a lot of peace of mind.
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Hi there,
A year ago or so i got a desire, rooted it with unrevoked (amazing app, thanks to the developers), flashed clockworkmod 2.0.5.X (can't remember) and leedroid's 2.5.0 (after playing around with some others). However, a few months ago it started freezing without reason. Supposedly, a reformat of the sd card would fix that. Therefore, I backed up, installed latest Clockworkmod (5.0.2, with rom manager RM) and used RM to format the sd resulting in an error. When I booted in recovery I realized I already have S-ON and clockworkmod 2.0.5 (altough RM keep saying me i have 5.0.2). After that I used unrevoked 3.32 in an attempt to fix all that mess. However, the only thing I got was to have an unrooted desire!!!
My actual config is:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.80.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.08
Mar 29 2010, 21:34:33
I have tried using unrevoked again but nothing. Alphrev to raise the hboot version but my phone is actually unrooted. I don't know what to do, any help please!?!
Thanks in advance and apologies for the long speech
Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...
Hi bortak, thanks for the quick response!!
I'm really kinda newbie in these things. Yeah, i have a custom rom and yes, I was rooted. However, I do really think I am unrooted because titanium backup (through superuser app that comes with leedroid's rom) says at startup that I'm not rooted. Is there any other way to know for sure?
As you suggest, I thought on alpharev to s-off an then flash an updated recovery+rom. But I can't if unrooted (I don't know if that matters but my hboot is 0.80).
Is the goldcard+WWE RUU+revolutionary safe in my case?
Thanks a lot!
bortak said:
Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...
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bortak I've read in your guide (amazing, thanks in the name of humankind ) and found that revolutionary only supports hboots 0.93.0001 and 1.02.0001 but mine is 0.80.0000.
Visionary is useful in case of not having a recovery, but I have clockworkmod 2.0.5. Is there any way to root my desire again so I can use alpharev to get s-off?
With s-off I could install an updated CWM so I can format the sd or install an stock RUU to get the phone to service center, am I right?
Thanks!!!
Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio
shuprio said:
Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio
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Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!
coriscow said:
Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!
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Yes Coriscow. It is the RUU. Best of luck! Hope everything will be fine.
Thanks-
Shuprio
Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
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rootSU said:
Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
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rootSU that's it, thanks!
My main concern was that the phone was (seemed to be) unrooted and unrevoked could not change that. However wiping the data through the recovery did it
Now I will try to fix all the other thins like flashing a RUU to update the HBOOT. If so use revolutionary
Thanks you all, i'll keep you posted as I do thing
I did it!!! At this point I'm S-OFF (I never was), updated hboot, rooted (I already was but, as rootsu said, unrevoked messed something up), fresh leedriod install and the problem about the phone freezeing randomly seems to have disappeared after a full sd and sdext format. Thank you all for the help, the guides, and so and so
Hi, I've been having some problems with my Htc Desire (Running Hboot 0.80, rooted & CM7). A couple of months ago Super User needed an update and required S-off. I didn't feel like doing that at the time, but after a while and a updated clockworkmod the phone locks up when i try to backup my current Rom.
So now I'm considering S-offing my phone and I was just wondering if i can use alpharev on my current Hboot considering that i'm running CM 7.03? '
Most guides use some kind of stock-Rom so i just wanted to check in advance rather then being sorry later.
It's just a matter of having a non A2SD/D2SD ROM, so it's safer to return to a stock ROM (You should have made a backup of it after rooting), you can try it on CM and you never know it might work.
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It's just a matter of having a non A2SD/D2SD ROM, so it's safer to return to a stock ROM (You should have made a backup of it after rooting), you can try it on CM and you never know it might work.
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Sure, I've got an old Leedroid and Htc original 2.2 so I'll pop the 2.2 back on and after the S-off is completed I can simply restore a older CM7 backup? It's a shame that the Super user needed S-off.
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Sure, I've got an old Leedroid and Htc original 2.2 so I'll pop the 2.2 back on and after the S-off is completed I can simply restore a older CM7 backup? It's a shame that the Super user needed S-off.
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yeah just do that, I don't see why it needs S-OFF though :s Either way it's better to have it than not :thumbsup:
I'm selling my DInc on eBay in a few days (upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus). It's currently running CM7 - I plan to give the buyer the option of a stock phone or a rooted phone with CM7 (as an aside, is this a good idea, or should I just sell it stock?). So I need to make sure I know how to return it to stock if necessary.
I found a very detailed and seemingly clear procedure over on another forum (I hope I'm allowed to link to it here, if not I apologize), but I just want to make sure of a couple of things.
1. The 2.3.4 PB31IMG.zip I downloaded (from here) contains a radio as well as the ROM. It's the same radio I'm already running (2.15.10.07.07) - am I ok to flash this over what I currently have, since it's the same baseband?
2. Will this also return recovery to stock (I have CWM recovery), or is that something I have to do in a separate step? If I have to do it separately, in what order do I do it - before I return it to S-ON using Unrevoked or after? Before flashing PB31IMG.zip or after?
3. Finally, in addition to CM7, my phone has the EXT4 4 All mod installed (/data and /cache are formatted ext4 instead of ext3), do I need to be concerned about this?
Thanks for any help you can provide!
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I'm selling my DInc on eBay in a few days (upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus). It's currently running CM7 - I plan to give the buyer the option of a stock phone or a rooted phone with CM7 (as an aside, is this a good idea, or should I just sell it stock?). So I need to make sure I know how to return it to stock if necessary.
I found a very detailed and seemingly clear procedure over on another forum (I hope I'm allowed to link to it here, if not I apologize), but I just want to make sure of a couple of things.
1. The 2.3.4 PB31IMG.zip I downloaded (from here) contains a radio as well as the ROM. It's the same radio I'm already running (2.15.10.07.07) - am I ok to flash this over what I currently have, since it's the same baseband?
2. Will this also return recovery to stock (I have CWM recovery), or is that something I have to do in a separate step? If I have to do it separately, in what order do I do it - before I return it to S-ON using Unrevoked or after? Before flashing PB31IMG.zip or after?
3. Finally, in addition to CM7, my phone has the EXT4 4 All mod installed (/data and /cache are formatted ext4 instead of ext3), do I need to be concerned about this?
Thanks for any help you can provide!
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Yes it is ok to flash the ruu even though it contains the same radio.
Flashinh an ruu will install the stock recovery. You will wany to flash the s-on tool on the unrevoked forever site before doing an ruu.
First you have to flash thru hboot the froyo 2.15.00.07.28 radio.
Then flash the s-on tool thru recovery.
Then do the ruu.
Thats it the phone is complete stock again, remember to format the emmc and sdcard before selling.
The ext 4 mod is not an issue if returning to stock, as it will be overwriten by the ruu. If the buyer wants it rooted i would still go in to recovery wipe everything in mounts and storrage and then flash a fresh rom.
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Yes it is ok to flash the ruu even though it contains the same radio.
Flashinh an ruu will install the stock recovery. You will wany to flash the s-on tool on the unrevoked forever site before doing an ruu.
First you have to flash thru hboot the froyo 2.15.00.07.28 radio.
Then flash the s-on tool thru recovery.
Then do the ruu.
Thats it the phone is complete stock again, remember to format the emmc and sdcard before selling.
The ext 4 mod is not an issue if returning to stock, as it will be overwriten by the ruu. If the buyer wants it rooted i would still go in to recovery wipe everything in mounts and storrage and then flash a fresh rom.
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Thanks for your response - it's very helpful. I have one question though -- why do I have to flash the Froyo 2.15.00.07.28 radio if I'm doing a Gingerbread 2.3.4 RUU that already has a later radio (2.15.10.07.07) included?
Don't worry, I'll definitely wipe everything and flash a fresh copy of CM7 if the buyer wants it rooted!
timbck2 said:
Thanks for your response - it's very helpful. I have one question though -- why do I have to flash the Froyo 2.15.00.07.28 radio if I'm doing a Gingerbread 2.3.4 RUU that already has a later radio (2.15.10.07.07) included?
Don't worry, I'll definitely wipe everything and flash a fresh copy of CM7 if the buyer wants it rooted!
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You have to go to the 07.28 radio to go s-on. Both unrevoked and the s-on tool require that radio to function properly. But then when you flash the ruu it will go back to 07.07
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You have to go to the 07.28 radio to go s-on. Both unrevoked and the s-on tool require that radio to function properly. But then when you flash the ruu it will go back to 07.07
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I see. Thanks!
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I see. Thanks!
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No problem. Also even if they want it stock you could just leave it s-off and flash the ruu. This would make it stock rom / recovery but much much simpler for them to root if they would so choose in the future.
U probably would get more money leaving it rooted with cm7
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