[Q] Quick Question about Nandroid with S-Off and H-Off - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Rooted and have S-Off and H-Off now.
Flashed new Kernel.
So if I do a Nandroid Backup now.
Does the backup retain my S-Off and H-Off?

marshy73 said:
Rooted and have S-Off and H-Off now.
Flashed new Kernel.
So if I do a Nandroid Backup now.
Does the backup retain my S-Off and H-Off?
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It doesn't backup those two partitions at all. So as long as you don't do anything to them after the nandroid they will remain.

Thanks for the response.
What I really meant was that niw I've got S-off and H-boot done. If I'd to do a nandroid backup and explore sone other things (e.g upgrade to current OTA rom).
If I'd recover from this nandroid backup, would my recovered ROM srill have S-off and H-boot?
I'm thinking that I'd still be able to recover root and S-off capabilities but perhaps not H-boot.
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marshy73 said:
Thanks for the response.
What I really meant was that niw I've got S-off and H-boot done. If I'd to do a nandroid backup and explore sone other things (e.g upgrade to current OTA rom).
If I'd recover from this nandroid backup, would my recovered ROM srill have S-off and H-boot?
I'm thinking that I'd still be able to recover root and S-off capabilities but perhaps not H-boot.
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Why don't you make a Radio S-OFF/Super CID also? And flash the update using the guide that allows you to keep root, Eng S-OFF, and H-boot capabilities? That's exactly what I did, and it works fine.

Hi
So I need super CID?
I'm still new at this stuff so will go dig up in it. If you could direct me to a specific thread it'll be great! Thanks.
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^^ sure thing buddy first this guide for root(super user access), h-boot eng s-off. Don't worry about the top section on custom ROMS. Just start from where it says Method 1 and go to the end of the page:
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/desire_hd_installing_roms
then this guide for Radio s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
Make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before loading the 1.72xxx update/ROM or any custom ROMs based on 1.72xxx build or otherwise you will not be able to get radio s-off and will also loose full root access. To test s-off do this. Power off device. Hold down volume down and tap power button once to enter bootloader. Once it loads up it should say eng s-off at the top. Then go to system info (or something like that) using the volume up & down to change up or down and tap the power button to select. Under system info it will say CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea. If it says anything different such as next to CID you do not have radio s-off. For example CID-VODAP021 is s-on stock Vodafone Australia. CID:HTC__001 is stock unbranded with s-on.

marshy73 said:
I'm thinking that I'd still be able to recover root and S-off capabilities but perhaps not hboot
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Hit the nail on the head you did
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[Q] how do i flash radio img without s-off

I'm using leedroid 1.4.1 and i've updated to Buzz 1.1.4 kernel. However, i didn't update my radio before that
I've tried using the easy s-off to achieve eng s-off so that i can flash my radio to the recommended one. However, the easy s-off tool is apparently not compatible with my current ROM/Kernel
is there any way around this? my battery is really quite bad and i hope that by flashing a new radio, my battery will improve.
Hope some expert can help me!!
worntilltorn said:
I'm using leedroid 1.4.1 and i've updated to Buzz 1.1.4 kernel. However, i didn't update my radio before that
I've tried using the easy s-off to achieve eng s-off so that i can flash my radio to the recommended one. However, the easy s-off tool is apparently not compatible with my current ROM/Kernel
is there any way around this? my battery is really quite bad and i hope that by flashing a new radio, my battery will improve.
Hope some expert can help me!!
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you can flash a radio from recovery, but the .img has to be packaged up in the .zip correctly, maybe you should pm someone with more knowledge about this, i also have only radio s-off and would like to know
If I had known better..I wld have done the Eng s-off before I did the flashing of the firmwares.
No idea that radio will be necessary to update..
You can reflash a custom rom with 1. 32 base and then you can attempt to achieve eng s-off. Do not forget to nandroid prior of reflashing so you can revert back to Lee's 1.4.1.
Cheers
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD
mariosraptor said:
You can reflash a custom rom with 1. 32 base and then you can attempt to achieve eng s-off. Do not forget to nandroid prior of reflashing so you can revert back to Lee's 1.4.1.
Cheers
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD
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good idea batman
mariosraptor said:
You can reflash a custom rom with 1. 32 base and then you can attempt to achieve eng s-off. Do not forget to nandroid prior of reflashing so you can revert back to Lee's 1.4.1.
Cheers
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD
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oh..do i just flash as per normal or would i have to downgrade using the method as in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
Mine is already rooted so i should be able to just flash 1.32, get eng s-off and then come back to 1.4.1?
When you say revert back to 1.4.1, does it mean that i just run recovery after i've achieved eng s-off and i can go back to 1.4.1?
worntilltorn said:
When you say revert back to 1.4.1, does it mean that i just run recovery after i've achieved eng s-off and i can go back to 1.4.1?
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Exactly that
what about downgrading to 1.32? just flash?
As long as you are rooted your real base is 1.32. You do not have anything to downgrade. You just flash a 1.32 custom rom. When i say revert i mean the nandroid backup that you create from recovery.
After finishing the s-off just boot into recovery and select backup/restore and then select restore. After it finishes restoring it will be againn at Lees 1.4.1
worntilltorn said:
what about downgrading to 1.32? just flash?
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okay..now i'm trying to get back to 1.32..hope it works!
somehow it doesnt work..
i used modaco r2 to go back to 1.32 and tried to s-off. it says successful. after which, i restored nandroid and tried to flash the radio. it still doesnt work..get stuck at the sending radio part.
did i do something wrong?
1. Nandroid backup
2. Go back to 1.32
3. Radio S-off
4. Flash radio
5. Recover nandroid
thanks..i'll try to do that when i have access to ADB..in office at the moment.

[Q] Can someone PLEASE help me remove ClockworkMod?

Can someone please tell me how to remove clockworkmod recovery and reflash stock DHD one. I was experimenting with ROMs and rooting but now I just want to go back to stock DHD everything. I restored my stock ROM from clockwork backup and have restored device to S-On and Radio S-On and unrooted but I can't seem to remove Clockworkmod recovery. I'm worried that I wont receive OTA updates beacuse of this. Any help greatly appreciated...
Follow my guide in Radio S-OFF tool's thread, "how to restore branded backup". You should now turn Radio S-ON to S-OFF and then follow the guide.
jkoljo said:
Follow my guide in Radio S-OFF tool's thread, "how to restore branded backup". You should now turn Radio S-ON to S-OFF and then follow the guide.
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Thank you! I will try this!
Thanks, I think your method worked for me. Does the stock bootloader look the same with the 3 androids on skateboards on the bottom of the screen or does that mean i'm still on clockwork??
mikebyrne316 said:
Thanks, I think your method worked for me. Does the stock bootloader look the same with the 3 androids on skateboards on the bottom of the screen or does that mean i'm still on clockwork??
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simplest test is to boot into recovery surely?
Within hours these excellent devs here at xda have patched or built a Rom including any new OTA updates, probably before you even know. Do its not worth going back to stock, considering what advantages you will lose. Your phone, up to you, but your reason doesn't make sense.
Can guarantee the official 'custom' gingerbread will be released at xda, also within hours of the release, including a lot of the devs patches.
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[Q] HTC wildfire S-off next steps

Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance
teo.boev said:
Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance
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You need to flash a recovery(search the development thread for clockworkmod recovery)
Flash this recovery via fastboot(search the whole forum for a guide)
And then flash a ROM(or other things) of your choice via the recovery menu.
Hope this helps
Personally, I downgraded by flashing a stock 2.1 RUU, then used unrevoked 3.2 to root it and install clockworkmod.
Then just flashed a cyanogen nightly (#57). Although you can choose whatever rom you want.
I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?
teo.boev said:
I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?
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Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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U can also use this i used this to root my Wildfire , just now
Code:
http://www.multiupload.com/K6RAGILSS3
When i flash unrevoked 2.2 after s-off and downgrade to 2.1 is had the same problem. I don't know why but unrevoked 3.14 worked fine. For me newer is not always better.
3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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once S-OFF, downgrading and then rooting is a lengthier process. As already stated in the post #2, after S-OFF just flash a recovery from the fast boot menu and thats all ur phone is rooted.
get the PC49IMG.ZIP file and the process from here. (most painless and secure algorithm)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15
how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?
mysql2779 said:
how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?
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Yes, only known way till now.
And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
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lumina_1 said:
And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Buy it.
Also learn to search.
Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?
clon12 said:
Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?
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If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM
almightybunghole said:
I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM
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What you have heard is false. HBoot 1.01x requires XTC Clip to get S-OFF, and, only then can it be downgraded and rooted.
Rooted ROM
3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?
Zavel said:
If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?
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Root is given by the app called Superuser. Just as in linux, every program that wants to do something that needs root rights, has to ask for it. In android that permission is "tunneld" by the superuser, which asks you if you want to grant an app root access, and then gives it to that app with your permission. But of course, the only way that superuser can grant root access, is when it is propperly installed, and has some files in the /system folder. Which is not possible without root permissions
So: if you are s-off, you can flash a recovery image trough fastboot (working with unrevoked gives you the custom recovery right away) by the adb command "flastboot flash recovery " (google for "cyanogenmod wiki flastboot" if you are planning it, it is really nice explaned). Trough that recovery you can apply some kind of an "update.zip", which installes the right superuserfiles on your system anx changes nothing else. Notice me if you want those files, I know where to find them here on xda.
From that moment on, when an app asks for root permission, you get a popup from the superuser app to ask if you really want to grant that app such permissions or not: if yes, the app has root access now!
This is all based on my experience with the stock ROM, don't know how the process works in CM or wildpuzzle.
Erwin
Edit: and if you want to delete or modify rom specific things (like htc stock app), you can connect your phone to your computer, mount your system as read/write by the command "adb remount" and then delete it trough adb commands. No need to go trough recovery for this.
Perhaps the same is possible if you have a file manager that can handle rooted phones, but not sure about that.

[Q] putting stock rom back on branded htc desire

Morning people. Just have question in relation to unrooting h3g UK branded desire. I need to send back to get q minor hardware problem fixed. My software info is as follows.
andriod version 2.2
baseband version 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
kernel version 2.632.15-g5d39305 htc-kernel at and18-2#1
build number 2.25.771.1 CL254759 release-keys
*software number 2.25.771.1
*browser version webkit 3.1
I also have the newer model which when rooted via unrevoked does not give s-off.
I have a goldcard and would just like to get a definitive answer. Will using the Rom for h3g on shipped roms website unroot my phone. Bear in mind I cannot back up my current Rom
thanx in advance!
the at is the sign but can't post it due to link rules for new users1
Yes, it will unroot your phone.
Swyped from Oxygen
Thanx for tje reply. Any suggestions on which one to use. Also how do I use my gold card?
Use the latest h3g ruu which you can find on http://shipped-roms.com
Put your goldcard in your desire, run the downloaded exe and follow the instructions on the screen.
Swyped from Oxygen
Thanx for the tips. It a real comfort having u guys around to put our noob minds at ease. Big help!
Actually could I ask one more thing. How would o go about rooting again. This time I can't flash a new Rom. I want to be able to back up my current Rom before using alpharev to change boot. Any suggestions?
To run alpharev, you need root access. If you have root access (probably with using unrevoked), you have a revovery with witch you can backup your current system.
Sent from Oxygen
So it should be. But due to my model I can't flash recovery. All that happens is after selecting recovery in CWM the screen goes black and I have to take tje battery out to start the phone. I done some research on tje web and it is due to the model of desire I have. UNREVOKED does not take s-off. I know I have to use alpharev to correct it but ad I can't flash recovery I am nervous to try. Any suggestions?
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Which hardwarerevision (pvt number) does your desire have (boot into hboot, line like "bravo pvt...")
Sent from Oxygen
hiya been in work all daym just sat down.
So yeah this is the info:
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT- 0.93.0001
Microp-051d
Touch Panel-SYNW0101
Radio-5.11.05.14
Any help you can give would be great!
Clockwork does not work with pvt4 desires. You have to flash amonra recovery.
Sent from Oxygen
aaaaaa!! was looking at that, so i flash amonra and i can then flash recover. good. i canthen take the risk using alpharev. will the ruu work with pvt4 and the hboot that i havegot. saw something that indicates that it may need downgrading?
Yes, the ruu will work with your phone.
But i think you getting something wrong:
You cannot backup your hboot with recovery. If the s-off procedure by alpharev fails, your phone might be bricked. Now backup can protect you from this, because the bootloader (which gets changed in this s-off procedure) is the absolute base of your phone. If this one is bricked, your phone is not more than a paperweight.
in the meantime i have managed to replace CWM with AmonRa. I now have a current rom back up. If some thing goes wrong with the alpharev procedure, will this recovery image allow me to restore to the current state i have now. It sounds like it won't if i am getting you correctly?
copernicus666 said:
in the meantime i have managed to replace CWM with AmonRa. I now have a current rom back up. If some thing goes wrong with the alpharev procedure, will this recovery image allow me to restore to the current state i have now. It sounds like it won't if i am getting you correctly?
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The s-off procedure does not touch your phone or rather its current state.
I do not write the same thing a second time. My second last past answered your question. Maybe it's too late.
just making sure. sounds risky can i flash custom roms without the s-off?
MatDrOiD said:
Clockwork does not work with pvt4 desires. You have to flash amonra recovery.
Sent from Oxygen
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HI, i just would like to say that i have desire PVT 4 from 3 in uk as well and CWM have always worked for me. I guess than im lucky or just not every device is same.
take care
copernicus666 said:
just making sure. sounds risky can i flash custom roms without the s-off?
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Sure.
Sent from Oxygen
Thanx for ur advise and patience over the last couple of days your help has given me a lot of peace of mind.
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[Q] About flashing back to stock rom

Hi guys, just a few questions.
1) Requirements for warranty is it just unroot it? or do i need S-On for my device?
2) Is it possible for me to use the stock rom i backed up to revert back to stock? and does that means its free to go for warranty after flashing back? Do i really need to use the RUU version stock rom?
Just these questions for the moment.
Any kind souls to help? Thanks alot!
dxdestiny said:
Hi guys, just a few questions.
1) Requirements for warranty is it just unroot it? or do i need S-On for my device?
2) Is it possible for me to use the stock rom i backed up to revert back to stock? and does that means its free to go for warranty after flashing back? Do i really need to use the RUU version stock rom?
Just these questions for the moment.
Any kind souls to help? Thanks alot!
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If your device is not bricked, you need both S-On and Unroot.
If you have done Radio S-Off and Root, it is easy, just run an official RUU and you will be back to stock
If you did Eng S-Off... well that complicates things a bit and you have to use Jkoljo tool if you used to achieve Eng S-Off (I don't know about any reversing any other method), just hope you kept your Hboot backup (the one that the tool made) on the root of your SD card.
Hope that helps.
Yup, so i have an eng s-off, radio s-off and rooted device.
Does that means i need to use that Jkoljo tool you mentioned to remove eng s-off and then run an official RUU to get back to stock?
and the hBoot filename is something like this?
"hboot_original.bin"
Thanks alot for the reply here =)
dxdestiny said:
Yup, so i have an eng s-off, radio s-off and rooted device.
Does that means i need to use that Jkoljo tool you mentioned to remove eng s-off and then run an official RUU to get back to stock?
and the hBoot filename is something like this?
"hboot_original.bin"
Thanks alot for the reply here =)
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The steps you should do are like this.
1. Run the 1.32 RUU and then Re-root + Radio S-Off
2. Run Jkoljo tool and reverse Eng S-Off
3. Re-Run the 1.32 RUU and you should be back to Stock with Eng S-on and Radio S-On.
PS. if you are using a branded handset you should set back the CID to the correct number (Cannot remember exactly how, but Jkoljo thread should have some info)
Ok. I get it now! Thanks alot! =)
One last question. Branded handset means?
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dxdestiny said:
Ok. I get it now! Thanks alot! =)
One last question. Branded handset means?
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Like carrier branded (aka locked handset). You know like Orange/Vodafone locked DHDs where they have custom RUUs and CIDs.

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