Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance
teo.boev said:
Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance
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You need to flash a recovery(search the development thread for clockworkmod recovery)
Flash this recovery via fastboot(search the whole forum for a guide)
And then flash a ROM(or other things) of your choice via the recovery menu.
Hope this helps
Personally, I downgraded by flashing a stock 2.1 RUU, then used unrevoked 3.2 to root it and install clockworkmod.
Then just flashed a cyanogen nightly (#57). Although you can choose whatever rom you want.
I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?
teo.boev said:
I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?
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Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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U can also use this i used this to root my Wildfire , just now
Code:
http://www.multiupload.com/K6RAGILSS3
When i flash unrevoked 2.2 after s-off and downgrade to 2.1 is had the same problem. I don't know why but unrevoked 3.14 worked fine. For me newer is not always better.
3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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once S-OFF, downgrading and then rooting is a lengthier process. As already stated in the post #2, after S-OFF just flash a recovery from the fast boot menu and thats all ur phone is rooted.
get the PC49IMG.ZIP file and the process from here. (most painless and secure algorithm)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15
how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?
mysql2779 said:
how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?
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Yes, only known way till now.
And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
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lumina_1 said:
And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Buy it.
Also learn to search.
Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?
clon12 said:
Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?
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If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM
almightybunghole said:
I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM
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What you have heard is false. HBoot 1.01x requires XTC Clip to get S-OFF, and, only then can it be downgraded and rooted.
Rooted ROM
3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?
Zavel said:
If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?
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Root is given by the app called Superuser. Just as in linux, every program that wants to do something that needs root rights, has to ask for it. In android that permission is "tunneld" by the superuser, which asks you if you want to grant an app root access, and then gives it to that app with your permission. But of course, the only way that superuser can grant root access, is when it is propperly installed, and has some files in the /system folder. Which is not possible without root permissions
So: if you are s-off, you can flash a recovery image trough fastboot (working with unrevoked gives you the custom recovery right away) by the adb command "flastboot flash recovery " (google for "cyanogenmod wiki flastboot" if you are planning it, it is really nice explaned). Trough that recovery you can apply some kind of an "update.zip", which installes the right superuserfiles on your system anx changes nothing else. Notice me if you want those files, I know where to find them here on xda.
From that moment on, when an app asks for root permission, you get a popup from the superuser app to ask if you really want to grant that app such permissions or not: if yes, the app has root access now!
This is all based on my experience with the stock ROM, don't know how the process works in CM or wildpuzzle.
Erwin
Edit: and if you want to delete or modify rom specific things (like htc stock app), you can connect your phone to your computer, mount your system as read/write by the command "adb remount" and then delete it trough adb commands. No need to go trough recovery for this.
Perhaps the same is possible if you have a file manager that can handle rooted phones, but not sure about that.
Related
I recently came across revolutionary, it is said to s-off the devic
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Device permanently, I am currently rooted with supernova data2sd, can I use that program to s-off my device?
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I ran it
worked fine for me
sebastianlow said:
Device permanently, I am currently rooted with supernova data2sd, can I use that program to s-off my device?
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I am currently using MIUI - D2EXT and successfully S-OFF'ed my desire this morning!
it crashed on me when i said 'y' to download the recovery - wanted to see if it would pull down anything newer than 2.5.0.7
flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
Par4 said:
flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
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well yea I did anyway - but I wanted to know what version it pulled down
So, this is an "easy" way to S-OFF my Desire? (Yes, I'm a noob and afraid of bricking my phone since I, you know, need it to do phone stuff )
My device is rooted, running a custom recovery and MIUI, but it isn't S-OFF'd yet.
I've read that Android Flasher needs S-OFF so the bootscreen etc can be modified, but can I use Android Flasher to flash a custom recovery with an S-ON device?
Unrevoked wouldn't flash the 4EXTRecovery img I just want to make sure I can use Android Flasher instead without going through the S-OFF procedure before.
Thanks, haven't got round to S-off yet as the previous methods seemed somewhat daunting.
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Par4 said:
flash your own recovery and skip that part,
hboot before flash needs to be 0.93.0001
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Agree with above quote.
Easy to use, once s-off just use any recovery. I used 4Ext 2.1.3. Just put the Pblahblahblah.img on your sd card and install through fastboot.
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Best is to flash the recovery before s-off with revolutionary so you can skip that part.
as for some the recovery doesn't work in revolutionary
done in a couple of seconds.
and you don't need to use vmware or a bootable cd or usb.
I've used it. Dead easy, and the phone remained S-OFF after I PB99IMG'd it to the official GB build.
I had modified the .zip a little though, removed radio and recovery (already had newer radio and left CWM so I could root easily).
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can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
Can I use this to s-off with the official GB update or is that hboot too new?
Zombie Dude said:
Can I use this to s-off with the official GB update or is that hboot too new?
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hboot too new
Lothaen said:
hboot too new
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Thanks. I did some searching before and found that out. Well guess I'll still be waiting till they find a way to either downgrade or unlock the newer hboot.
aliensk said:
can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
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Sure: http://www.mediafire.com/file/m16ypyymn5x1spn/PB99IMG.zip
Contains no radio or recovery. Does contain HBOOT, but Revolutionary doesn't get overwritten by it.
I would like to S-OFF my Desire and want to know if either Revolutionary or Alpharev flash their own recovery in addition to doing S-OFF?
I already rooted my Desire a couple months ago with unrevoked3 and this put on Clockworkmod (unsure what version) in addition as well, but I'm happy with how it works and don't need it replaced I guess.
Which one should I use? Do I get a choice to do S-OFF only and skip replacing the recovery?
Name of this thread is EPIC!
Rusty! said:
I've used it. Dead easy, and the phone remained S-OFF after I PB99IMG'd it to the official GB build.
I had modified the .zip a little though, removed radio and recovery (already had newer radio and left CWM so I could root easily).
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aliensk said:
can you upload the moddified pb99 file? i cant modify it my self it doesnt let delete files from the archive. if i decompress and comppress it again it doesnt work
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Lothaen said:
hboot too new
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Salty Wagyu said:
I would like to S-OFF my Desire and want to know if either Revolutionary or Alpharev flash their own recovery in addition to doing S-OFF?
I already rooted my Desire a couple months ago with unrevoked3 and this put on Clockworkmod (unsure what version) in addition as well, but I'm happy with how it works and don't need it replaced I guess.
Which one should I use? Do I get a choice to do S-OFF only and skip replacing the recovery?
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I had 2.3.3 oficial update. I used revolutionary to s-off (with the oficial update i had 1.02.0001 hboot and after s-off i had 6.93.0002 hboot). After s-off i ran the shipped RUU and i am still s-off and 6.93.0002 hboot.
Is there a way to get back to 0.93.0001?
to get S-ON...because he is still S-off
Hello Folks,
i have a problem with my Wildfire (was Branded with T-Mobile DE)
I have downloaded the Update for Superuser and now it always say that my SU Binary is too old. But if i want to update it, it get an error at the point to get the /System write rights.
How do i get it work?
Here are some informations from the Bootloader of my Phone:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.80.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO.3.35.20.10
May 13 2010,22:09:43
The currently installed ROM is CM7 Nightly 199
and the CWM Version is 2.5.0.1
And sorry for my bad English, i prefer German
From what I could tell, the S-ON seems to be the problem.
and how do i make it s-off?
cause my h-boot is 0.80.0002 and Alpharev X only works with 1.00.0001
From i know you need to update to official 2.2 with a RUU and then s-off.
Check one of stickies in development for more details.
Alex_GP said:
From i know you need to update to official 2.2 with a RUU and then s-off.
Check one of stickies in development for more details.
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I tryed it, to install the RUU with the Hboot 1.00.0001 but it always give me an error that its not the right UserID. With no chance -.- ... is there any possibility to Update the Hboot over CWM? Maybe installable from a Zip file?
Need help
Metalschnulli said:
I tryed it, to install the RUU with the Hboot 1.00.0001 but it always give me an error that its not the right UserID. With no chance -.- ... is there any possibility to Update the Hboot over CWM? Maybe installable from a Zip file?
Need help
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Hi, can't remember exactly my method but try to explain best I can.
I flashed safe not rooted rom from 3xeno's sticky page. Then I downloaded on PC the ruu. Exe and this is the part o can't remember but I got the rom image from the exe and turned it into a pc49 img then placed on SD root and rebooted into hboot? ( Power + vol down ). It did its magic then I just used revolutionary to s-off and did clean install of cm7 to replace revs su. Hope this makes sense!!! And is of help.
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To update the su, just flash the signed zip from here: http://androidsu.com/superuser/
With a RUU, you must be in Android. (so not fastboot or anything else).
Then, if it works.
You open Revolutionary (you found it on revolutionary.io) in admin mode. And then it's okay
Hello
I have a friend who has htc desire and we have successfully unlocked the bootload via the htcdev.com .
now we are trying to install the clockworkmod recovery with serval ways but without success.
the phone is still S-ON of course and HBOOT 1.03.0003 + BRAVO PVT3 + RADIO 5.11.05.27 .
can please any one help us?
thanks a lot.
we have try this way
youtube.com/watch?v=6lR2vFm3-kc
and with this way also
The Unrevoked Method
lifehacker.com/5789397/the-always-up+to+date-guide-to-rooting-any-android-phone
go home.
you will find no answers here.
thanks sjknight413
any one else with knowledge?
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Try revolutionary ! It will S-Off your phone and install the revolutionary recovery. From then on you can flash other hboots or recovery's
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revolutionary is not working with hboot 1.03 (1.02 and lower)
I think the only way is downgrade(if possible, don't know the way) and get root/s-off on lower hboot
MarcelHofs said:
Try revolutionary ! It will S-Off your phone and install the revolutionary recovery. From then on you can flash other hboots or recovery's
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i have tried the revolutionary method now but with no result.
the hboot is 1.03 and not 1.02
when i double click the revolutionary.exe the cmd is closing.
kotag82 said:
revolutionary is not working with hboot 1.03 (1.02 and lower)
I think the only way is downgrade and get root/s-off on lower hboot
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Is it possible to downgrade without being s-off ? I am having doubts about that ? I am also still learning ;-)
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Checked the STICKIE on troubles with hboot and s-off your phone. I just read there that you might flash a RUU that will get you to another bootloader.....
Like kotag82 said !
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try to flash flash recovery from fastboot
see this post for more info
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MarcelHofs said:
Checked the STICKIE on troubles with hboot and s-off your phone. I just read there that you might flash a RUU that will get you to another bootloader.....
Like kotag82 said !
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just read one of BORTAK'S post in another question as this one, as far he knows, no downgrade is possible yet... but worth to try with goldcard
elessargr said:
via the htcdev.com
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There is your problem. HTC official method doesn't give you the same freedom unofficial methods do. As far as I know there is no turn back yet, so bad luck for you, inform yourself better next time. htcdev gives you root but leaves hboot locked.
from HTC site:
htc said:
Why is my security still on (S-On) after I have unlocked my bootloader?
Your device is shipped with Security on (S-ON) to protect your system software configuration (such as the bootloader, radio, boot, recovery, system and others). After you have unlocked the bootloader, however, you will have lifted the restrictions on boot, recovery and system. This means you can customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. You can easily see that you have successfully unlocked the bootloader by looking at the top of the screen when entering the bootloader screen. Security is left on to protect things like the radio, and SIM lock.
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You can't change your bootloader because you are S-ON and you can't get S-OFF because methods to get S-OFF are based on original bootloaders, by installing HTC's new bootloader you have locked you out of getting S-OFF. HTC does only give you access to boot, recovery and system, is not full S-OFF and that includes a locked bootloader.
yeah you basically screwed yourself by using the official method. Ironic isnt it?
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Not sure why all the peripheral discussion around here makes it sound as if he's bricked his phone.
OP, I understand you've "successfully" unlocked the bootloader and want to flash cwmr. In that case, the solution is to download a .img image of cwmr, and flash it using the fastboot program:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Or use any of the GUI tools for fastboot.
For all practical purposes, unlocked bootloader ought to be enough for you.
ok problem sovled
This method i have folow with some changes.
1) Unlock phone via HTC official process (registration required)
You are now unlocked S-ON but have no root access on the existing rom, however by doing it the official way you dont need to flash the radio anyway. I used the following steps to get CM7 installed on mine.
2) Downloaded ClockworkMod Recovery 5 (GSM not CDMA)
download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-bravo.img
(i have download instead dl.dropbox.com/u/4518713/recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.7.111102-j_r0dd_mod-bravo.zip this from this topic)
(sorry - forum wont let me post urls yet)
3) reboot phone into fastboot
and plug in the usb
4) In the environment you set up for the HTC unlock process enter
(this means put the *.img file you downloaded in this file: C:/Android (with adb, fastboot)
open cmd, type:
"cd c:\Android"
"fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-bravo.img" OR "fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.7.111102-j_r0dd_mod-bravo.img"
5)unplug the usb cable from your phone.
select bootloader press power to select
wait 20 sec
select recovery press power to select
if the flash was successful you will se the ClockWorkMod Recovery 5.0.2.0 OR 5.0.2.7
6) To navigate into ClockWorkMod Recovery
Use trackpad, not power to select
Yes, that's the age old method of flashing via hboot. Nothing new about it.
Android flasher can also be used to flash recovery right? And isn't it much easier?
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yes, for newbies. For us, we could probably finish flashing by the time you load it.
PreScoper said:
Android flasher can also be used to flash recovery right? And isn't it much easier?
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Yeah Android Flasher is a useful tool as I use it myself but I still believe that the manual way of doing it using command is the best way to go specially if you are having issues.
Last August I rooted my DHD using AAHK. No problems for a complete beginner. Had things running sweet. 4ext. tried a number of different roms. flashed radios and RILs; again, no probs. but then for some reason I returned to stock using RUU_Ace_H3G_UK_1.37.771.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_158897_signed.exe - still running this now.
I have S-OFF and now want to REROOT!
Is there a guide to Rerooting that I can follow or can someone give me the basic steps as I don't want to mess things up, it was a while ago since I first rooted the DHD.
1more thing... my DHD was locked to 3-UK before root. Now, I can only use Virgin, Orange, GiffGaff, T-mobile, Tesco, but not 3. this bugs! Anyone got any ideas as to why this is?
Failing that... Rerooting Toot using AAHK (if poss.) would be great cos I have a laptop dedicated/configured for AAHK already.
any HELP will be appreciated - TANX!
jay-walker said:
Last August I rooted my DHD using AAHK. No problems for a complete beginner. Had things running sweet. 4ext. tried a number of different roms. flashed radios and RILs; again, no probs. but then for some reason I returned to stock using RUU_Ace_H3G_UK_1.37.771.3_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_158897_signed.exe - still running this now.
I have S-OFF and now want to REROOT!
Is there a guide to Rerooting that I can follow or can someone give me the basic steps as I don't want to mess things up, it was a while ago since I first rooted the DHD.
1more thing... my DHD was locked to 3-UK before root. Now, I can only use Virgin, Orange, GiffGaff, T-mobile, Tesco, but not 3. this bugs! Anyone got any ideas as to why this is?
Failing that... Rerooting Toot using AAHK (if poss.) would be great cos I have a laptop dedicated/configured for AAHK already.
any HELP will be appreciated - TANX!
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You don't need AAHK if you're still S-Off. If I remember correctly, to root your current ROM, just push a su manager app (like Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk) and a su binary. Alternatively, if you want to flash a custom ROM, fastboot flash a recovery img and flash a ROM from there.
ssooo bananagranol...
bananagranola said:
You don't need AAHK if you're still S-Off. If I remember correctly, to root your current ROM, just push a su manager app (like Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk) and a su binary. Alternatively, if you want to flash a custom ROM, fastboot flash a recovery img and flash a ROM from there.
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tanx for the speedy reply... so I can install 4ext (my fav) then I'm good to go with new roms again - you sure?
and what about Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk and su binary - from...? will this give me more access to customise.
Srry, still a noob, i know!
jay-walker said:
tanx for the speedy reply... so I can install 4ext (my fav) then I'm good to go with new roms again - you sure?
and what about Superuser.apk or SuperSU.apk and su binary - from...? will this give me more access to customise.
Srry, still a noob, i know!
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You need to get the 4ext img and fastboot flash it, not just install from apk. More detailed instructions are in the thread linked in my signature. Look in the guide in post #7, bottom of page 9, "S-Off no recovery" section.
You need to search for the apk and su binary; I don't have copies. It will only root your current ROM with no customization. If you're going to fastboot flash 4ext you don't need to bother with this, since any ROM you flash from recovery will overwrite your current ROM with the apk and su binary.
OK - kewl!
bananagranola said:
You need to get the 4ext img and fastboot flash it, not just install from apk. More detailed instructions are in the thread linked in my signature. Look in the guide in post #7, bottom of page 9, "S-Off no recovery" section.
You need to search for the apk and su binary; I don't have copies. It will only root your current ROM with no customization. If you're going to fastboot flash 4ext you don't need to bother with this, since any ROM you flash from recovery will overwrite your current ROM with the apk and su binary.
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I was just over at Ace Think Tank, Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide. need a recap!
but no - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - BRILLIANT - THANK YOU!!!
GuyInTheCorner's ROOTING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY S-OFF
jay-walker said:
I was just over at Ace Think Tank, Page#1, post#7 Noob Starter Guide. need a recap!
but no - THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR - BRILLIANT - THANK YOU!!!
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For anyone else interested in S-OFF REROOT...
GuyInTheCorner gives instructions on how to do this... ROOTING WHEN YOU'RE ALREADY S-OFF (with no custom recovery)
So if you're already S-OFF (either HTC DEV or AAHK [Ace Hack Kit]) but you're not rooted, don't despair! Its a relatively easy fix, all you need is a little time. . Now you'll have to have a card reader for this part. Using a card reader, place a PD198IMG.zip on the root of your SD Card (this means directly onto the SD Card, NOT IN A FOLDER) that contains a custom recovery. What you want to do now is to boot into HBOOT (Volume up+Power). Once you've done that it will automatically try to detect a PD198IMG.zip (which is already on your SD Card). It will flash it and you'll have yourself a custom recovery. Now using the volume buttons to navigate up and down respectively navigate to the RECOVERY option and press the power button. Now you're in your custom recovery, open the mounts section and mount your SD Card to your PC. Now download a SuperUser.zip and flash it in recovery. Congrats! You've flashed a custom recovery and are now rooted! Enjoy
If I helped, hit that thanks button!
here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37500024&postcount=1349
jay-walker said:
So if you're already S-OFF (either HTC DEV or AAHK [Ace Hack Kit]) but you're not rooted, don't despair!
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You cannot be S-Off with HTCDEV.
HTCDEV...
bananagranola said:
You cannot be S-Off with HTCDEV.
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banana g.... point taken!
I didn't use HTCDEV to unlock the bootloader I used AAHK to achieve S-OFF! So, I should be OK with the procedure you and GuyInTheCorner refer to - yeah?
Achieving root is easy. The hard stuff is to get S-OFF...
If you have unlocked the bootloader or S-OFF'ed, then flash SU in CWM or 4ext and that's it.
glevitan said:
Achieving root is easy. The hard stuff is to get S-OFF...
If you have unlocked the bootloader or S-OFF'ed, then flash SU in CWM or 4ext and that's it.
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easier said than done when i can't get 4ext flashed. eerrrw
Question: how to fastboot flash 4ext as i'm having no success from the instructions given earlier.
i've tried both PD198IMG.ZIP and PD98IMG.ZIP in the root of sd card but to no avail. any other way to get 4ext flashed? or am i being a complete noob?
in addition... my HBOOT screen
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.007
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
HBOOT
etc, etc,
jay-walker said:
easier said than done when i can't get 4ext flashed. eerrrw
Question: how to fastboot flash 4ext as i'm having no success from the instructions given earlier.
i've tried both PD198IMG.ZIP and PD98IMG.ZIP in the root of sd card but to no avail. any other way to get 4ext flashed? or am i being a complete noob?
in addition... my HBOOT screen
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.007
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Oct 11 2010, 12:47:02
HBOOT
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if your phone is booting normally, use the 4ext updater. If not flash CWM first and then a custom rom. From the android UI use 4ext updater.
use 4ext updater...
glevitan said:
if your phone is booting normally, use the 4ext updater. If not flash CWM first and then a custom rom. From the android UI .
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tried it all but to no avail. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
so how do I flash CWM or install SuperUser?
jay-walker said:
tried it all but to no avail. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
so how do I install SuperUser - anyone?
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What happened? Did you try to fastboot flash a recovery.img? That should work as long as you're S-Off.
To install Superuser on a working ROM, find a Superuser.apk and a su binary. adb push the Superuser.apk to /system/app and the su binary to .../xbin, I think? There are guides around XDA.
What happened?
bananagranola said:
What happened? Did you try to fastboot flash a recovery.img? That should work as long as you're S-Off.
To install Superuser on a working ROM, find a Superuser.apk and a su binary. adb push the Superuser.apk to /system/app and the su binary to .../xbin, I think? There are guides around XDA.
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I tried to fastboot flash 4ext by placing the 4ext/recovery zip renamed to PD198IMG.ZIP in the root path of the SDcard then vol-down&power but hboot does not pick it up.
I then tried the 4ext updater but there were errors; so I don't know what's happening - I've almost given up and thinking about updating from FROYO to GingerBread OTA as a last resort and be done with that.
I read that S-OFF should be easy to root but that's not what I'm finding.
there is not enough information about unroot by returning to stock then rerooting for me to feel confident about doing it correctly so I might just go GingerBread - period!
jay-walker said:
I tried to fastboot flash 4ext by placing the 4ext/recovery zip renamed to PD198IMG.ZIP in the root path of the SDcard then vol-down&power but hboot does not pick it up.
I then tried the 4ext updater but there were errors; so I don't know what's happening - I've almost given up and thinking about updating from FROYO to GingerBread OTA as a last resort and be done with that.
I read that S-OFF should be easy to root but that's not what I'm finding.
there is not enough information about unroot by returning to stock then rerooting for me to feel confident about doing it correctly so I might just go GingerBread - period!
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ok, first it is PD98IMG.zip and not PD198IMG and you have an apk that can be downloaded from here: http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
You just install it using a file manager and the run it. Download the lastest recovery, flash it from there and you are done.
glevitan said:
ok, first it is PD98IMG.zip and not PD198IMG and you have an apk that can be downloaded from here: http://www.4ext.net/get.php?apk
You just install it using a file manager and the run it. Download the lastest recovery, flash it from there and you are done.
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I don't think his ROM is rooted right now. Is that still possible?
bananagranola said:
I don't think his ROM is rooted right now. Is that still possible?
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Yeah, that is one of the possiblities. However, he should be able to flash CWM in fastboot, SU and then flash 4ext as he is S-OFF.
Hi, everyone.
My HTC Desire(Bravo) USB Port is broken. So I can't connect via USB.
now I'm froyo(2.2) user. I'm very very want rooting... So, I'm wondering if there is anyway to root my desire without usb cable.
any help would be appreciated.
BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.10.05.17_2
Aug 10 2010,17:52:18
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aquade2 said:
Hi, everyone.
My HTC Desire(Bravo) USB Port is broken. So I can't connect via USB.
now I'm froyo(2.2) user. I'm very very want rooting... So, I'm wondering if there is anyway to root my desire without usb cable.
any help would be appreciated.
BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.10.05.17_2
Aug 10 2010,17:52:18
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No u can't, you should get it fixed...
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aquade2 said:
Hi, everyone.
My HTC Desire(Bravo) USB Port is broken. So I can't connect via USB.
now I'm froyo(2.2) user. I'm very very want rooting... So, I'm wondering if there is anyway to root my desire without usb cable.
any help would be appreciated.
BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.10.05.17_2
Aug 10 2010,17:52:18
* sorry; I don't speak english well.
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You can only temp root I believe
Have a look at bortak's troubleshooting guide stickied to top of Q&A, step [11]
It might work, never tried it. You won't have full unlcocked bootloader (S-OFF) though, which is much more useful overall.
Best to get you USB port fixed.
I tried soldering a New micro USB which failed so you can instead buy the main board which has the micro USB with it, but if ur not into fixing it yourself just give to a phone shop.
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Thank you.. but It isn't solve.
eddiehk6 said:
You can only temp root I believe
Have a look at bortak's troubleshooting guide stickied to top of Q&A, step [11]
It might work, never tried it. You won't have full unlcocked bootloader (S-OFF) though, which is much more useful overall.
Best to get you USB port fixed.
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Thank you.
I see "step [11]", so I tried it.
After TEMPROOT NOW, I download superuser. But... Binary update is failed.
In addition, I Download ROM Manger, and select "flash recovery". then installed. But... When I reboot into recovery mode, no flashing Clockwork recovery. Unchanged from HTC Recovery...
I think it's s-on...
What's the problem? I want to hear your ideas.
* Sorry;; It isn't solve -> It hadn't solve.
aquade2 said:
Thank you.
I see "step [11]", so I tried it.
After TEMPROOT NOW, I download superuser. But... Binary update is failed.
In addition, I Download ROM Manger, and select "flash recovery". then installed. But... When I reboot into recovery mode, no flashing Clockwork recovery. Unchanged from HTC Recovery...
I think it's s-on...
What's the problem? I want to hear your ideas.
* Sorry;; It isn't solve -> It hadn't solve.
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U need to unlock bootloader to use recovery but u can't without USB.
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Then....
lilsafbig said:
U need to unlock bootloader to use recovery but u can't without USB.
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So.. Eventually, the only way to fix the usb port there?
aquade2 said:
So.. Eventually, the only way to fix the usb port there?
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Yep.
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Maybe it is possible to flash your phone by making a goldcard and by flashing a recovery using a PB99IMG.zip from your bootloader.You could also upgrade your firmware with this way.
But I have a question.How do you charge that phone?!!Do you have some external Charging Dock Cradle?
Gatosbil said:
Maybe it is possible to flash your phone by making a goldcard and by flashing a recovery using a PB99IMG.zip from your bootloader.You could also upgrade your firmware with this way.
But I have a question.How do you charge that phone?!!Do you have some external Charging Dock Cradle?
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He has to be s off using that but he can't cos of the charge port.
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I'm sure for pb99img.zip u need s off but unlocked bootloader by using fastboot?
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lilsafbig said:
I'm sure for pb99img.zip u need s off but unlocked bootloader by using fastboot?
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U dont need s-off for recovery PB99IMG but yes u need unlocked bootloader for it. If u were to flash lets say radio.img PB99IMG method then u do need s-off.
Gatosbil said:
Maybe it is possible to flash your phone by making a goldcard and by flashing a recovery using a PB99IMG.zip from your bootloader.You could also upgrade your firmware with this way.
But I have a question.How do you charge that phone?!!Do you have some external Charging Dock Cradle?
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I use the phone charger. I charge the battery by plugging the charger directly.. and I have an extra battery.
So.... You say that you can root using the golden card?
aquade2 said:
I use the phone charger. I charge the battery by plugging the charger directly.. and I have an extra battery.
So.... You say that you can root using the golden card?
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It is possible you be able to flash a custom recovery using a goldcard (I am not sure about that).But as the jmcclue says you probably have to be at least htc_dev unlocked to be able to flash a PB99IMG.zip from your bootloader.
With a goldcard you would be able to flash something without signature verification even with S-ON.You could also downgrade if you would like too.
If you can't find anything an idea is if you could S-OFF your phone.Then you could flash anything.You could temproot and you try an S-OFF way (with gfree for example).You may have to use a custom kernel to be able to use it (I am not sure about that).But as I can see you have a froyo firmware.So may gfree works for you even without custom kernel.
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I found something that may be really helpful for you.
Check this out (go to "ROOT WITHOUT USB CONNECTION")
I don't know if it can flash a recovery when you are S-ON.(If you achieve this you should be able only to flash a recovery and after that to root your device with a flashable zip.It will not S-OFF your device)
You can also check this guide out how to S-OFF without adb:
[GUIDE] Permanent Root with Visionary/gfree (No ADB Required)
** If you want to flash an ENG (engineering) bootloader you can download one from here.Do not use the hboot-eng.img or hboot-eng.img you can find inside those tools.Those tools has eng hboots for Desire Z **
Thank you.
Gatosbil said:
It is possible you be able to flash a custom recovery using a goldcard (I am not sure about that).But as the jmcclue says you probably have to be at least htc_dev unlocked to be able to flash a PB99IMG.zip from your bootloader.
With a goldcard you would be able to flash something without signature verification even with S-ON.You could also downgrade if you would like too.
If you can't find anything an idea is if you could S-OFF your phone.Then you could flash anything.You could temproot and you try an S-OFF way (with gfree for example).You may have to use a custom kernel to be able to use it (I am not sure about that).But as I can see you have a froyo firmware.So may gfree works for you even without custom kernel.
---------- Post added at 07:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:28 PM ----------
I found something that may be really helpful for you.
Check this out (go to "ROOT WITHOUT USB CONNECTION")
I don't know if it can flash a recovery when you are S-ON.(If you achieve this you should be able only to flash a recovery and after that to root your device with a flashable zip.It will not S-OFF your device)
You can also check this guide out how to S-OFF without adb:
[GUIDE] Permanent Root with Visionary/gfree (No ADB Required)
** If you want to flash an ENG (engineering) bootloader you can download one from here.Do not use the hboot-eng.img or hboot-eng.img you can find inside those tools.Those tools has eng hboots for Desire Z **
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thank you. Once, i already tried "ROOT without USB connection". but.. I failed. because... I think it is due to S-ON.(Now S-ON state.)
But... I'll try the second method. Thanks for the tip.
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Oh.. It is a way for the G2 and Desire Z.
Umm.. So what should I do in order to fit the Desire(Bravo)?
Hboot-emg.img and Hboot-emg-z.img found in the zip file.(I think the hboot file for G2 and Desire Z.)
So... you mean to replace it with Bravo HBOOT Desire?(ex. bravo_alphaspl.img(Bravo stock),...atc.)
I do not know what to do;;
aquade2 said:
thank you. Once, i already tried "ROOT without b)
But... I'll try the second method. Thanks for the tip.
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Oh.. It is a way for the G2 and Desire Z.
Umm.. So what should I do in order to fit the Desire(Bravo)?
Hboot-emg.img and Hboot-emg-z.img found in the zip file.(I think the hboot file for G2 and Desire Z.)
So... you mean to replace it with Bravo HBOOT Desire?(ex. bravo_alphaspl.img(Bravo stock),...atc.)
I do not know what to do;;
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I don't really suggest you to use flash_hboot or flash_hboot_z scripts because I am not sure what is the hboot partition for HTC desire (bravo).Those scripts are using mmcblk0p18 partition to install the eng hboot by using dd command.(Anyway it is not necessary to install an eng hboot.)
The only thing you need after the S-OFF procedure (with gfree) is to flash a PB99IMG.zip with a custom recovery from your bootloader in order you be able to flash a Superuser or SuperSU zip to root your Rom.
Also you shouldn't even try to install the Hboot-eng.img or Hboot-eng_z.img you will find inside this zip becauce they are definitly for desire z.
If you want to install an eng hboot for bravo you could download one (from alpharev for example) and until you have succeeded S-OFF with the above procedure you can flash it by using a PB99IMG.zip from your bootloader.(You can see the process in alpharev's website.)
If you like to use an eng hboot I think bravo_alphaspl.img (Bravo stock) would be a nice choice. But in my opinion I would prefer the (Bravo N1Table) because you will have more cache memory and a bigger data partition. If you use a lite Rom it should work nice.
Well.;;
Gatosbil said:
I don't really suggest you to use flash_hboot or flash_hboot_z scripts because I am not sure what is the hboot partition for HTC desire (bravo).Those scripts are using mmcblk0p18 partition to install the eng hboot by using dd command.(Anyway it is not necessary to install an eng hboot.)
The only thing you need after the S-OFF procedure (with gfree) is to flash a PB99IMG.zip with a custom recovery from your bootloader in order you be able to flash a Superuser or SuperSU zip to root your Rom.
Also you shouldn't even try to install the Hboot-eng.img or Hboot-eng_z.img you will find inside this zip becauce they are definitly for desire z.
If you want to install an eng hboot for bravo you could download one (from alpharev for example) and until you have succeeded S-OFF with the above procedure you can flash it by using a PB99IMG.zip from your bootloader.(You can see the process in alpharev's website.)
If you like to use an eng hboot I think bravo_alphaspl.img (Bravo stock) would be a nice choice. But in my opinion I would prefer the (Bravo N1Table) because you will have more cache memory and a bigger data partition. If you use a lite Rom it should work nice.
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I'm sorry;; I don't understand what you mean well..;;
Ummm... PB99IMG.zip is not RUU Froyo? and.. Can I flash the Superuser or Supersu??
Can you give me some more explanation releasing?
aquade2 said:
I'm sorry;; I don't understand what you mean well..;;
Ummm... PB99IMG.zip is not RUU Froyo? and.. Can I flash the Superuser or Supersu??
Can you give me some more explanation releasing?
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When u s off u can flash a recovery using the PB99IMG.ZIP method so then you will have a recovery to flash supersu which makes your phone rooted and then u need a custom rom.
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I understand.
lilsafbig said:
When u s off u can flash a recovery using the PB99IMG.ZIP method so then you will have a recovery to flash supersu which makes your phone rooted and then u need a custom rom.
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I understand. thank you