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[Q] HTC wildfire S-off next steps

Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance

teo.boev said:
Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance
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You need to flash a recovery(search the development thread for clockworkmod recovery)
Flash this recovery via fastboot(search the whole forum for a guide)
And then flash a ROM(or other things) of your choice via the recovery menu.
Hope this helps

Personally, I downgraded by flashing a stock 2.1 RUU, then used unrevoked 3.2 to root it and install clockworkmod.
Then just flashed a cyanogen nightly (#57). Although you can choose whatever rom you want.

I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?

teo.boev said:
I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?
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Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8

3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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U can also use this i used this to root my Wildfire , just now
Code:
http://www.multiupload.com/K6RAGILSS3

When i flash unrevoked 2.2 after s-off and downgrade to 2.1 is had the same problem. I don't know why but unrevoked 3.14 worked fine. For me newer is not always better.
3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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once S-OFF, downgrading and then rooting is a lengthier process. As already stated in the post #2, after S-OFF just flash a recovery from the fast boot menu and thats all ur phone is rooted.
get the PC49IMG.ZIP file and the process from here. (most painless and secure algorithm)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15

how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?

mysql2779 said:
how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?
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Yes, only known way till now.

And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

lumina_1 said:
And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Buy it.
Also learn to search.

Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?

clon12 said:
Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?
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If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.

3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM

almightybunghole said:
I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM
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What you have heard is false. HBoot 1.01x requires XTC Clip to get S-OFF, and, only then can it be downgraded and rooted.

Rooted ROM
3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?

Zavel said:
If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?
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Root is given by the app called Superuser. Just as in linux, every program that wants to do something that needs root rights, has to ask for it. In android that permission is "tunneld" by the superuser, which asks you if you want to grant an app root access, and then gives it to that app with your permission. But of course, the only way that superuser can grant root access, is when it is propperly installed, and has some files in the /system folder. Which is not possible without root permissions
So: if you are s-off, you can flash a recovery image trough fastboot (working with unrevoked gives you the custom recovery right away) by the adb command "flastboot flash recovery " (google for "cyanogenmod wiki flastboot" if you are planning it, it is really nice explaned). Trough that recovery you can apply some kind of an "update.zip", which installes the right superuserfiles on your system anx changes nothing else. Notice me if you want those files, I know where to find them here on xda.
From that moment on, when an app asks for root permission, you get a popup from the superuser app to ask if you really want to grant that app such permissions or not: if yes, the app has root access now!
This is all based on my experience with the stock ROM, don't know how the process works in CM or wildpuzzle.
Erwin
Edit: and if you want to delete or modify rom specific things (like htc stock app), you can connect your phone to your computer, mount your system as read/write by the command "adb remount" and then delete it trough adb commands. No need to go trough recovery for this.
Perhaps the same is possible if you have a file manager that can handle rooted phones, but not sure about that.

Downgrade Hboot 6.93.0002 to 0.93.0001?

I had 2.3.3 oficial update. I used revolutionary to s-off (with the oficial update i had 1.02.0001 hboot and after s-off i had 6.93.0002 hboot). After s-off i ran the shipped RUU and i am still s-off and 6.93.0002 hboot.
Is there a way to get back to 0.93.0001?

1) alpharev.nl is a website read each line of it
2) u have to read xda every day to understand all, then u can do things like root, s-off, custom roms...otherwise is better u enjoy ur stock phone as is
Sent from my HTC Desire

andQlimax said:
1) alpharev.nl is a website read each line of it
2) u have to read xda every day to understand all, then u can do things like root, s-off, custom roms...otherwise is better u enjoy ur stock phone as is
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Yeaa.. but can you help me with this than... i'm searching alday long for this!
can you PLEASE explain what i need and what i need to download it.. because i need get that S-on..
i heard from a friend.. that i CAN'T DOWNGRADE because there is no exploit of it...
what do you think?
I want to learn this, sooo a little help i can use

I download the Pb99img, from alpharev 1,8, Bravo Downgrader
run it on bootloader aply yes
My hboot is now : S-off.Hboot-6. 93.9999
I want it back to normol hboot S-onn
PLEASE HELP SOMEBODY!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16686095&postcount=9

Can I ask you a question ?
Why you want get back to 0.93 ?

MatDrOiD said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16686095&postcount=9
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Justinstz said:
Can I ask you a question ?
Why you want get back to 0.93 ?
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i found it!
'' First rename the Bravo downgrader.zip to PB99IMG run it in HBOOT MODE, not recovry mode, aply the update, than you hboot will chance to '' ... 9999 '' , after that i had a RUU ZIPFILE, rename that also to PB99IMG run in HBOOT mode and you're done, yoo i learn this as wel!,
''

So did this bring your phone back to S-ON after you ran the RUU?

Aha it did work thanks

Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that

Azroid said:
Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that
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1. Flash downgrader from AlphaRev site.
2. Flash your RUU.
3. Now its downgraded.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire with Android 4.0.1 ICS using Tapatalk

itachi1706 said:
1. Flash downgrader from AlphaRev site.
2. Flash your RUU.
3. Now its downgraded.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire with Android 4.0.1 ICS using Tapatalk
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But how do I flash the downgrader??. If I double click on the downgrader it asks me what I want to use to burn the file?.
I am trying to get my wifes desire to have a custom rom as it keeps saying she is low on memory. I have used revolutionary to change from hboot 1.02 to 6.93 with s off but now do not have a clue what to do. I have been trying to read up on what to do all day but everything speaks as though I should know exactly what to do from the off!.
Give me my HD2 any day!!! lol
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Scotty.

tuktukscotty said:
But how do I flash the downgrader??. If I double click on the downgrader it asks me what I want to use to burn the file?.
I am trying to get my wifes desire to have a custom rom as it keeps saying she is low on memory. I have used revolutionary to change from hboot 1.02 to 6.93 with s off but now do not have a clue what to do. I have been trying to read up on what to do all day but everything speaks as though I should know exactly what to do from the off!.
Give me my HD2 any day!!! lol
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Scotty.
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Download the img, rename it to PB99IMG.img and place it on the root of your sdcard. Then boot into hboot (while the phone is off, press volume down + power button), click vol up button to apply update and again to reboot. Now its flashed. Then you can continue with the RUU.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire with Android 4.0.1 ICS using Tapatalk

itachi1706 said:
Download the img, rename it to PB99IMG.img and place it on the root of your sdcard. Then boot into hboot (while the phone is off, press volume down + power button), click vol up button to apply update and again to reboot. Now its flashed. Then you can continue with the RUU.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire with Android 4.0.1 ICS using Tapatalk
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Cheers.
Will try it once again.....

Azroid said:
Sorry guys need a bit elaboration as i also wanna downgrade my htc desire hboot 6.93.1002 to 0.92 elaborate how u did that
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Why do you want to do that?
There is a downgrader.img on the alpharev website which if you fastboot flash it to replace the existing hboot, will then allow you to use a RUU. Choose a RUU that has the hboot you want and run it. Of course this will unroot your phone. What is your actual aim here?

Downgrade from HBOOT 6.93.0002 to 0.93.0001
Guys, if you ORIGINALLY had 0.93.00001 and ran the Revolutionary S-OFF program, it WILL update your HBOOT to 6.93.0002. This is a GOOD thing, you'll still be S-OFF'd but you'll be running the Gingerbread HBOOT version. It's always better to have the newer version of the HBOOT than the older version. As long as you're S-OFF'd, it really doesn't matter which HBOOT version you have, I just recommend the newer version. Thanks!
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rootSU said:
Why do you want to do that?
There is a downgrader.img on the alpharev website which if you fastboot flash it to replace the existing hboot, will then allow you to use a RUU. Choose a RUU that has the hboot you want and run it. Of course this will unroot your phone. What is your actual aim here?
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That's exactly what I said LOL There's no use downgradnig HBOOT's if you're already S-OFF'd with 6.93.0002

InMyBedNow said:
Guys, if you ORIGINALLY had 0.93.00001 and ran the Revolutionary S-OFF program, it WILL update your HBOOT to 6.93.0002. This is a GOOD thing, you'll still be S-OFF'd but you'll be running the Gingerbread HBOOT version. It's always better to have the newer version of the HBOOT than the older version. As long as you're S-OFF'd, it really doesn't matter which HBOOT version you have, I just recommend the newer version. Thanks!
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For your information, GB Hboot is 1.02.0001 not 6.93.0002. 6.93.0002 is revolutionary hboot and if htc sees that highly likely they will not place it under warranty.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire with Android 4.0.1 ICS using Tapatalk

Hi everyone I needed to dowgrade because I wanted to use Alex-V's new 1.7.5 HD rom wich requires custom hboot but apparently the revolutionary one is newer hence the need of dowgrade but it was all a bit confusing for me aswell (no ofence and big thanks to all of you that are trying very hard to make it as simple as possible for us) so at the end just before I give up I put the downgrade img from AlphaRev's site in android flasher and it was all done in 1.6sec
I hope that helps

dragokanev said:
Hi everyone I needed to dowgrade because I wanted to use Alex-V's new 1.7.5 HD rom wich requires custom hboot but apparently the revolutionary one is newer hence the need of dowgrade but it was all a bit confusing for me aswell (no ofence and big thanks to all of you that are trying very hard to make it as simple as possible for us) so at the end just before I give up I put the downgrade img from AlphaRev's site in android flasher and it was all done in 1.6sec
I hope that helps
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Hi, I'm struggling to root my old HTC desire bravo, have same hboot version as yours. Unable to install drivers for ADB. Want to root my phone because I want to learn how to play with custom ROMs, flashing etc...

neers13 said:
Hi, I'm struggling to root my old HTC desire bravo, have same hboot version as yours. Unable to install drivers for ADB. Want to root my phone because I want to learn how to play with custom ROMs, flashing etc...
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What hboot have u got and are u on 2.3.3? There's no need to downgrade to get root u just need to use revolutionary.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Free mobile app

Rooting with S-OFF

I rooted my phone some time ago but had no S-OFF. I had HBOOT 0.80.000. I could use some roms but not all so i asked for help. Thanks to some/lots help from benco286 i'm now rooted with S-OFF
At last. I flashed RUU_Bravo_Froyo_vodafone_uk_2.33.161.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_157522_signed.exe
Until it said upgrade from 2.2.... to 2.3....then clicked cancel
It gave me HBOOT 0.93.00
I then used Revolutionary
I now have hboot 6.93.1002 with s-off
Flashed [ROM][Cool3D Sense 3.0][3 Sep]Cool Sensation v10 |Android 2.3.4|BETA|CM7/r2|STOCK
now have everything i could want
thanks for your help not quite how i should have done it but it worked might be worth a post of how i did it

may i ask you a question
after you s-off by revolutionary ，can you flash cm7 hboot img from recovery ？ I can't do that

slypie said:
I rooted my phone some time ago but had no S-OFF. I had HBOOT 0.80.000. I could use some roms but not all so i asked for help. Thanks to some/lots help from benco286 i'm now rooted with S-OFF
At last. I flashed RUU_Bravo_Froyo_vodafone_uk_2.33.161.2_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_157522_signed.exe
Until it said upgrade from 2.2.... to 2.3....then clicked cancel
It gave me HBOOT 0.93.00
I then used Revolutionary
I now have hboot 6.93.1002 with s-off
Flashed [ROM][Cool3D Sense 3.0][3 Sep]Cool Sensation v10 |Android 2.3.4|BETA|CM7/r2|STOCK
now have everything i could want
thanks for your help not quite how i should have done it but it worked might be worth a post of how i did it
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Cool story, bro. Next time thank him via PM, will ya?
boyzzj said:
after you s-off by revolutionary ，can you flash cm7 hboot img from recovery ？ I can't do that
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Flashing HBOOT through recovery when you're S-OFF? Are you on drugs?!

For the record there is a way to flash hboot tables via recovery but its the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Anyone who did it would definitely need to talk to frank
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

rootSU said:
For the record there is a way to flash hboot tables via recovery but its the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Anyone who did it would definitely need to talk to frank
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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but from the thread of rmd 1.0.3.4 that said it can directly flash xxx.cm7.img hboot table from recovery .Am I wrong?

Even if you could flash it in recovery I strongly recommend using fastboot as it is alot safer

No you are not wrong. But I am also of the opinion that fastboot is much safer.
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[Q] Upgrading HBOOT from 0.75, AlphaRev failed?

I recently bought a Desire (A8183) and it came with HBOOT 0.75.0000 and I am trying to get S-OFF on it. I tried using AlphaRev and it came up with an error in step 3. How do I overcome this?
The phone still works fine.

tangcla said:
I recently bought a Desire (A8183) and it came with HBOOT 0.75.0000 and I am trying to get S-OFF on it. I tried using AlphaRev and it came up with an error in step 3. How do I overcome this?
The phone still works fine.
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1st: Wrong topic, you should post it in Q&A.
2nd: Have you flashed any custom ROM??? If so, thats why you cannot S-OFF it, try any near-to-stock, froyo rooted rom and then try again, this will do the trick
Cheers

thanito said:
1st: Wrong topic, you should post it in Q&A.
2nd: Have you flashed any custom ROM??? If so, thats why you cannot S-OFF it, try any near-to-stock, froyo rooted rom and then try again, this will do the trick
Cheers
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Oops, wrong subforum, didn't realise.
Yes I'm running a custom ROM I'll try a Froyo-based ROM and see if that helps.
It's a shame that Revolutionary doesn't support this version of HBOOT, is there any way of 'tricking' Revolutionary to S-OFF the 0.75 HBOOT?

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Moving to Q&A

You can always update bootloader... if you have a goldcard then put the attached file in the root of your sd-card, and then boot into bootloader and wait for it do do it's thing.. when it prompts you select yes. This will update your bootloader to version 0.93.1002
You shouldn't lose any data, but do make a backup of the ROM in recovery in case you get a bootloop.
Then run Revolutionary.
MD5 6384C1953791831738CCB78322DABD2C

bortak said:
You can always update bootloader... if you have a goldcard then put the attached file in the root of your sd-card, and then boot into bootloader and wait for it do do it's thing.. when it prompts you select yes. This will update your bootloader to version 0.93.1002
You shouldn't lose any data, but do make a backup of the ROM in recovery in case you get a bootloop.
Then run Revolutionary.
MD5 6384C1953791831738CCB78322DABD2C
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I downloaded the file and put it on the root sdcard... Bootloader seemed to just skip over the file though.
Do I need to change the text file in the zip to my CID or anything else? It doesn't like it

you need a goldcard, so it ignores the CID.. or actually.. what network are you on?
EDIT: Just noticed lol
Wait I'm downloading a Telstra RUU and I'll give you a new PB99IMG

try this. If not, then you can always use the RUU to do a full update, and then S-OFF and flash a custom ROM.

Thanks I'll give it a try.
I have four microSD cards at home and I've tried gold carding all of them... I don't know how successful I was cos I couldn't do what I wanted on the Desire HD

tangcla said:
Thanks I'll give it a try.
I have four microSD cards at home and I've tried gold carding all of them... I don't know how successful I was cos I couldn't do what I wanted on the Desire HD
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try the goldcard tutorial I posted.
Okay, well I'm gonna get to sleep now but I'll give you some advice before you go.
If you can't update the bootloader with that, I'd suggest backing up your ROM (if you havent done so already), flashing the RUU to bring it up to the latest bootloader version, and then using revolutionary.
Once you've S-OFF'd with revo. Use android flasher to flash recovery (Note: your backup will not work if you do not flash the same version of recovery) and then do a full wipe and flash a ROM of your choice.

Would you happen to know where I can get the original Telstra RUU from? I think that might be my best bet.
Thanks for your help!

tangcla said:
Would you happen to know where I can get the original Telstra RUU from? I think that might be my best bet.
Thanks for your help!
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I sent you a link on my other post, but I think the site is down at the moment.. I can upload a mirror for you though because I downloaded it yesterday
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/...2U_5_11_05_14_release_150162_signed.exe_links

Thanks - this looks like it worked now HBOOT 0.93.0001, running revolutionary now.
Is there any benefit in upgrading HBOOT at all? What does 1.02.0001 offer?

Hboot 1.xxxx is the stock hboot for gingerbread. So it offers you nothing. By flashing a hboot like cm7 (most roms fit in this hboot), you get much more space for installing apps, because its /data partition is much bigger.
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Want to S-off and root HTC Desire in 2015

Hey guys , revolutionary is dead
How do I S-off and root my HTC desire and install a custom recovery?
Hboot 0.93 0001

Heloooo said:
Hey guys , revolutionary is dead
How do I S-off and root my HTC desire and install a custom recovery?
Hboot 0.93 0001
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u could try AlphaRev.nl iv never used it but think its the only other way apart from revolutionary.

jmcclue said:
u could try AlphaRev.nl iv never used it but think its the only other way apart from revolutionary.
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Hmm , Dont understand how to use Alpharev , can it even be used on Windows 10?
There isnt a download link for windows , only a iso file . < What do I do with this Iso file?

I got the same problem in 2016.
Did you find a solution? Pretty much everything i find is "use revolutionary"...
Got htc desire with hboot 0.93 too.

Deeem2031 said:
I got the same problem in 2016.
Did you find a solution? Pretty much everything i find is "use revolutionary"...
Got htc desire with hboot 0.93 too.
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Use rev.alpharev.nl. Same lot who did revolutionary and Alpharev (hence the name). Still works as I tried it the other day. Doesn't work on the updated Hboot from HTCDev (1.03.0003)

3484jacks said:
Use rev.alpharev.nl. Same lot who did revolutionary and Alpharev (hence the name). Still works as I tried it the other day. Doesn't work on the updated Hboot from HTCDev (1.03.0003)
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Hi, is there a guide to do this for a noob?
I tried this and its not detecting the phone. Reading some guides online, im a little confused. They say you need to root it first, then do a nandroid backup, because it wont load the ROM otherwise. I thought that alpharev.nl rooted the phone too, but it seem not to be the case, its just s-off. Any help?

drtimsar said:
Hi, is there a guide to do this for a noob?
I tried this and its not detecting the phone. Reading some guides online, im a little confused. They say you need to root it first, then do a nandroid backup, because it wont load the ROM otherwise. I thought that alpharev.nl rooted the phone too, but it seem not to be the case, its just s-off. Any help?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2032467
If it's not detecting your phone then the drivers are not installed correctly. This will not root your phone. This will S-off and install a custom recovery. Once a custom recovery is installed you can then do a Nandroid back up (for safety) and flash whatever suitable ROM you choose. If you want to stay on stock ROM but rooted you can flash superuser through recovery.