I want to S-off my Desire using revolutionary.io. I see you need a later HBOOT than I have (0.80) so I intend to upgrade it using an RUU then use revolutionary to S-off it.
So, that I don't have to mess around restoring all my apps and settings can I do a nandroid backup of my current configuration, then use the RUU to upgrade and wipe it, use revolutionary to s-off it, then restore the nandroid backup to get my system back?
Essentially what I want is the system I have now, but with S-off, and am hoping nandroid can make the process quicker.
Thanks for any help.
Ta.
If you have an old hboot, try and check http://alpharev.nl
That way you can S-Off without doing the RUU stuff.
stankyou said:
If you have an old hboot, try and check http://alpharev.nl
That way you can S-Off without doing the RUU stuff.
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Cheers! I might do that. Is that as safe as revolutionary? It seems there are a lot more warnings on that site about bricking your phone...
Well without alpharev, there wouldn't be revolutionary
Yes it has full of warnings as this procedure can brick your device. If you are using a ROM with any data2sd or any scripts for moving system and app files to SD then there is also a warning for that.
They say that this procedure will take time specially if you already have a lot of apps installed. And sometimes people get impatient and reboot during the process bricking their phones.
Long time ago when I used this, I did a nandbackup of my current rom, then flashed a fresh Cyanogenmod rom then used alpharev to s-off. It just took me around 10mins or so since there were basically minimal apps installed. Once s-oo procedure is complete, I just did a nand restore afterwards.
stankyou said:
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Long time ago when I used this, I did a nandbackup of my current rom, then flashed a fresh Cyanogenmod rom then used alpharev to s-off. It just took me around 10mins or so since there were basically minimal apps installed. Once s-oo procedure is complete, I just did a nand restore afterwards.
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That seems like a good idea. I'll give that a go. Cheers.
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OK guys (and gals) I'm a noob and totally confused myself trying to read 1000s of pages here in the forum. I'm currently running OTA 3.26.651.6 and understand there's a 3.29.****.5 OTA now available. I tried TheBiles idiot proof guide but the link in step 30 is broke. Most of the guides out there seem to be out of date. So I'm looking for some advice from the PROS on which to use and how to use. Remember im a noob so keep it simple. Also is there a glossory about all this like:
What is;(and what do they benefit)
ClokWorkMod
NAND
Rom Manager
ect.
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OK guys (and gals) I'm a noob and totally confused myself trying to read 1000s of pages here in the forum. I'm currently running OTA 3.26.651.6 and understand there's a 3.29.****.5 OTA now available. I tried TheBiles idiot proof guide but the link in step 30 is broke. Most of the guides out there seem to be out of date. So I'm looking for some advice from the PROS on which to use and how to use. Remember im a noob so keep it simple. Also is there a glossory about all this like:
What is;(and what do they benefit)
ClokWorkMod
NAND
Rom Manager
ect.
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unrevoked 3.21
You run it on your computer, plug in your phone, and follow the directions. You get full root and ClockworkMod recovery installed on your phone, as well as unrevoked forever. It's super easy.
Pros:
It's super easy
It gives you full root
It gives you root forever (unrevoked forever)
Takes care of everything (root, custom recovery, "S-OFF" AKA unrevoked forever)
Thoroughly tested
Cross-platform support
You can actually set any custom recovery image you want through the menu
Cons:
You need a computer
sturmen - thanks for the quick reply. Also should i update to OTA 3.29*** before or after (or never) i use this method?
Don't update through Sprint (ever). That's not how we roll around here. You're gonna want to root your phone as it is, then flash a custom ROM. You can tell which ones are based on the latest OTA on that wiki page; flashing one essentially "updates" you to that version. Personally, I recommend Fresh Evo 3.3.0.1 if you like Sense, or CyanogenMod v6.0.0 if you don't.
The biles guide was made a while ago, so it makes sense it is out of date. The best next one, that works, would be regaws method. There is even a mac guide using his method if you have a mac.
Will the current unrevoked3 work with build number 3.29.651.5?
OK I ran the unrEVOked3 and it said "done". Do i still need to run unrEVOked forever?
JtotheEremy said:
Will the current unrevoked3 work with build number 3.29.651.5?
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Yes, the newest version of unrevoked3 worked for me with 3.29.651.5.
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
Thanks Bud
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OK I ran the unrEVOked3 and it said "done". Do i still need to run unrEVOked forever?
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I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
Drakhar said:
I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
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Straight from Unrevoked 3.21 RootWiki: here
Does this permanently unlock the NAND flash on my phone?
Yes. The default configuration of this tool disables the phone's security, which also disables the NAND locks placed on the storage by the bootloader. If you choose not to disable security, the /system partition will be read-only after the tool completes.
Using Old Backup's with this?
Here is my question on this. I just recieved my new phone today and I am planning on using this method to root my phone. Before I gave up my old phone I did a Nand backup which has all of my programs my "fresh rom" and ect. on it. Now on the old phone I used the Toast method and nand unlock to root my phone. Will I be able to just do a normal nand restore after I use the unrevoked3 to unlock my new phone? Or do I have to start all over? I checked on the sd card in the Nandroid backup is there. Thank you in advance
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Straight from Unrevoked 3.21 RootWiki: here
Does this permanently unlock the NAND flash on my phone?
Yes. The default configuration of this tool disables the phone's security, which also disables the NAND locks placed on the storage by the bootloader. If you choose not to disable security, the /system partition will be read-only after the tool completes.
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Thanks.
I read that the other day, but I kept reading posts stating to run unrevoked forever after unrevoked3 to make it permanent. Was a little confused... I guess unrevoked 3.21 includes unrevoked forever, lots of contradicting posts though.
one thing about that wiki that confuses me is when it talks about .ZIP ROMS, once i use unrevoked can I use Fresh's .ZIP?
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Thanks.
I read that the other day, but I kept reading posts stating to run unrevoked forever after unrevoked3 to make it permanent. Was a little confused... I guess unrevoked 3.21 includes unrevoked forever, lots of contradicting posts though.
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Unrevoked 3 was pre-Unrevoked 3.21. That did not do Nand unlock and S-Off and required you to flash Unrevoked Forever to get Nand unlock and S-Off.
JtotheEremy said:
one thing about that wiki that confuses me is when it talks about .ZIP ROMS, once i use unrevoked can I use Fresh's .ZIP?
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.zip ROMs are flashed via recovery. unrevoked should give you CWM recovery, and therefore you should be able to flash ROMs (including Fresh). Make sure you back up, and also wipe data, cache, and dalvik-cache before flashing. If you need help with that, here's a step-by-step:
Have full root with NAND unlock, by unrevoked 3.21 (recommended) or otherwise
Download the ROM you want in .zip format (Go for Fresh!)
Put the .zip into the root of your microSD card
Install Quick Boot from the Market
Use Quick Boot to enter recovery
Go to nandroid, then make a backup
Go to wipe, and wipe data, wipe cache, and wipe dalvik-cache
Select "Flash zip from SD card"
Select the one you downloaded
Let it run
Reboot your phone
Congratulations! You are now part of the cool kids club!
Alternately, purchase ROM Manager Premium which allows you to download, backup, wipe and flash all in one step from within Android and without interacting with recovery. $4.99 and totally worth it.
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Don't update through Sprint (ever). That's not how we roll around here. You're gonna want to root your phone as it is, then flash a custom ROM. You can tell which ones are based on the latest OTA on that wiki page; flashing one essentially "updates" you to that version. Personally, I recommend Fresh Evo 3.3.0.1 if you like Sense, or CyanogenMod v6.0.0 if you don't.
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OK, but what about those of us that don't want a custom ROM? Is there any reliable way of getting from root 3.26 to root 3.29 without a data wipe?
As far as I can tell my best reliable option is:
1) Use Titanium Backup to backup all my apps/settings
2) Use unrevoked3 and the stock 3.29 ROM here to upgrade to 3.29 and regain root
3) Reinstall Titanium and restore my apps/settings
Is this correct, or is there an easier way?
Drakhar said:
I've been wondering this as well. I ran the newest unrevoked3 and it gave me full NAND unlock and S-off but I'm not sure if it is permanent and if I should run forever as well.... would appreciate some input on this!
Sent from my EVO running Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo and King's #10 CFS.
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Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
S-off is unrevoked forever. So if it shows S-off in the boot loader then your good, u don't need to do anything else.
Shane112358 said:
OK, but what about those of us that don't want a custom ROM? Is there any reliable way of getting from root 3.26 to root 3.29 without a data wipe?
As far as I can tell my best reliable option is:
1) Use Titanium Backup to backup all my apps/settings
2) Use unrevoked3 and the stock 3.29 ROM here to upgrade to 3.29 and regain root
3) Reinstall Titanium and restore my apps/settings
Is this correct, or is there an easier way?
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On another Evo which I've helped root, I just downloaded the new 3.29 rooted stock ROM, wiped cache/davlik cache, flash new ROM, reboot, then go back and flash the new radio/PRI stuff and it works without having to wipe phone data.
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Here is my question on this. I just recieved my new phone today and I am planning on using this method to root my phone. Before I gave up my old phone I did a Nand backup which has all of my programs my "fresh rom" and ect. on it. Now on the old phone I used the Toast method and nand unlock to root my phone. Will I be able to just do a normal nand restore after I use the unrevoked3 to unlock my new phone? Or do I have to start all over? I checked on the sd card in the Nandroid backup is there. Thank you in advance
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It is my understanding that as long as you have the same Recovery flashed (Clockwork or Amon RA) as you did on your old phone you should be able to copy the backups to your SD card (maintaining the same directory structure as they were before) and restore them without issue.
Currently I have a rooted DHD, with RADIO S OFF, and running a gingerbread build.
I am curious as to how I would go back to fully stock? Like how I bought it with no traces of any messing around with it.
Nothing happened to my phone and I love my rooted device, just wondering in case I want to sell it or if I need to bring it in for physical damages.
Thanks!
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Download the wwe ruu and run it, that will flash the phone back to stock.
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Blinkydamo said:
Download the wwe ruu and run it, that will flash the phone back to stock.
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Do you know where i can get this from?
Although if you want to get back to 100% stock you will also need to reverse radio s-off. You do have your partition 7 backup safe I hope.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
How do you restore the partition 7 backup?
Good question I need to know the same thing.
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Do you know where i can get this from?
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here
angel129116 said:
How do you restore the partition 7 backup?
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With Clockwork recovery 3.x, although slightly flaky at the moment so you first need to reflash your gingerbread rom, then boot into recovery, go to backup / restore and use advanced option to restore /data
So just to make this clear.
1. Flash RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_ 26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed
2. Boot into recovery and restore the partition 7 backup?
3. Everything back to normal?
What about S-OFF and Radio S-OFF?
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So just to make this clear.
1. Flash RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_ 26.04.02.17_M2_release_161342_signed
2. Boot into recovery and restore the partition 7 backup?
3. Everything back to normal?
What about S-OFF and Radio S-OFF?
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Flashing the RUU will deal with S-OFF as it will replace the bootloader, radio S-OFF you would need to revert yourself, the RUU will also replace the recovery partition with stock so simplest thing would be to backup apps and data with Titanium (also backup sms with sms backup or similar) flash RUU then boot into ROM set up all the google stuff then install Titanium again and restore apps and data, you will not be able to restore system data without introducing some instability in the system though.
I believe dr.mox was suggesting you backup the cm7 partition should you wish to come back to gingerbread.
No I mean if you want to go back to 100% stock including removing radio s-off, you will need the partition 7 backup which the easy radio off tool generates. The easy tool also removes s-off but you need the backup.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
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Although if you want to get back to 100% stock you will also need to reverse radio s-off. You do have your partition 7 backup safe I hope.
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That why I love this forum, you learn something new every day, wondering what the files would be used for, will keep them safe.
Cheers
My SD card managed to go BOOM before i got to copy a backup of my P7 files,
will this make it impossible for me to get back to radio s-on if i would choose to?
Maybe this could help you get Radio S-on
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
I'm sending my phone in to warrant repair tomrorow, I'm with orange got the phone about a week ago.
I'm going to flash the stock rom from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
its an RUU, after that i will use visionary to temp root and then set radio to s-on with that tool i linked above. After all that i will hardreset and keep the micro sd card. Will they know that i rooted/s-off my phone? Anything else i should look into doing?
Propibly a stupid question but i rooted my phone a while back and it is still s-on and i'm not sure if i'm going to s-off so i was wondering is it safe to use unrevoked again on my phone with out wiping data and cache and by that way flash cwm 3.0.0.5?
Oo and sorry for my english hope you understand what i'm trying to ask
You can't root an already rooted phone, doesn't work and can mess everything up so you have to start again, unless you go S-Off ofc.
I thought so
So i think i have to go s-off atleast to get the newest cwm.
But i don't know much about s-off and what i get from doing it so it's a bit scary
Try Rom-manager from the Market!
With it you can update, very easy now stress no need for s-off
But it is a temporary fake-flash - next time you reboot, you get the previous version.
For permanent update either S-OFF....
or some people said they succeeded with using the same version of unrEVOked for flashing the update, as the version they used for rooting. Just select a custom image.
Yes use unrevoked to flash it. No problem. Nandroid just in case.
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I don't know much about s-off and what i get from doing it so it's a bit scary
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If you want to know more about S-Off just look here. Just read everything carefully, when you have understood you can do it.
From doing it you will get several things. Of course you will be able to flash the recovery you want directly with fastboot. You will also be able to flash another radio or another hboot. In particular you could be interested in changing hboot if you want a different partition layout, everything is explained in the link above.
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Yes use unrevoked to flash it. No problem. Nandroid just in case.
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But if it messes up i might not get into recovery and i need to ruu it right? And does a nandroid take backup of recovery?
And thanks Ed Roid i will look into that
Hello everyone, I'm a newbie here, so go easy on me, OK?
Well, I have (generic) stock HTC 2.2 (2.29.405.5) Desire (GSM), bravo ptv1 ship s-on, hboot - 0.93.0001, radio 5.11.05.27. I rooted it using unrEVOked latest issue on Linux Ubuntu. Rooting went perfectly good, I gained root access and Clockwork recovery.
My question is: how to replace Clockwork recovery with Amon Ra? Wich way is the quickiest and least painful for an average user?
Than you all in advance, cheers!
well, you either must unroot, then while rooting again choose amonra recovery in unrevoked or go S-OFF and flash new recovery image through fastboot
Thanks, I just tried flashing it thru Terminal Emulator, but it gave me error "flash_image: not found", so I guess it has something do to with root access. NMV.
How do I choose Amon Ra recovery for unrEVOked, it only gave me Clockwork? Remember, I'm under Ubuntu, so I can't pick recovery in unrEVOked UI.
no idea how to do that in linux, consider going S-OFF ?
i used CD method, was as easy as rooting, one thing required - a rom without A2SD+ or DATA2xxx
dzumagos said:
no idea how to do that in linux, consider going S-OFF ?
i used CD method, was as easy as rooting, one thing required - a rom without A2SD+ or DATA2xxx
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Seconded, s-off by live CD comparable to rooting, and after s-off you can also resize your partition tables and delete unneeded apps whilst booted via Ti backup or root explorer.
Well worth the time!
S-OFF is driving me nuts
How are my chances to make a wll worthy paper holder out of phone? And, do I still need to mess with adb after s-off in order to restore funcionality to rom?
voolandis said:
S-OFF is driving me nuts
How are my chances to make a wll worthy paper holder out of phone? And, do I still need to mess with adb after s-off in order to restore funcionality to rom?
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There are several detailed threads about s-off, ok small chance of bricking phone, but really tiny as long as you follow instructions and take your time. Same as rooting!
Read some threads and go through the information at alpharev site carefully:
http://alpharev.nl/
After doing it just restore the nandroid you made before starting...
Hi, I've been having some problems with my Htc Desire (Running Hboot 0.80, rooted & CM7). A couple of months ago Super User needed an update and required S-off. I didn't feel like doing that at the time, but after a while and a updated clockworkmod the phone locks up when i try to backup my current Rom.
So now I'm considering S-offing my phone and I was just wondering if i can use alpharev on my current Hboot considering that i'm running CM 7.03? '
Most guides use some kind of stock-Rom so i just wanted to check in advance rather then being sorry later.
It's just a matter of having a non A2SD/D2SD ROM, so it's safer to return to a stock ROM (You should have made a backup of it after rooting), you can try it on CM and you never know it might work.
bortak said:
It's just a matter of having a non A2SD/D2SD ROM, so it's safer to return to a stock ROM (You should have made a backup of it after rooting), you can try it on CM and you never know it might work.
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Sure, I've got an old Leedroid and Htc original 2.2 so I'll pop the 2.2 back on and after the S-off is completed I can simply restore a older CM7 backup? It's a shame that the Super user needed S-off.
Stennan said:
Sure, I've got an old Leedroid and Htc original 2.2 so I'll pop the 2.2 back on and after the S-off is completed I can simply restore a older CM7 backup? It's a shame that the Super user needed S-off.
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yeah just do that, I don't see why it needs S-OFF though :s Either way it's better to have it than not :thumbsup: