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Hey guys I'm new to this forum so please dont chew me out. I have a few questions about rooting my evo 4g on 2.2 froyo. I have done some extreme extensive research in the past week, and I have heard that unrEVOked methods are bad and cause alot of problems. Now im fully convinced that one-click methods are trashy because they dont even tell you what their methods are. So can someone in this forum please tell me whats the best updated ROOT method as of today? (thats not using unrevoked, simple root or any one click methods).
I'd like to know too!
This is my first dealings with a phone that has more than a camera on it (n00b). I pay for the $30 hot spot with sprint, but have been researching and found that you can do it by rooting your evo.
I backed up all my contacts to the sd card and copyed the sd to my pc. Installed htc sync and have pdanet. Thats it, I havent backed it up or anything.
Just got it so its 2.2, 3.30.651.2. I think I read some where that 3.30.651.2 cant be rooted if it was factory installed. Dont know the date of the thread i saw it on but is that true?
Any help about backing up before root would be great as well. Thanks a million
DZbadfish said:
This is my first dealings with a phone that has more than a camera on it (n00b). I pay for the $30 hot spot with sprint, but have been researching and found that you can do it by rooting your evo.
I backed up all my contacts to the sd card and copyed the sd to my pc. Installed htc sync and have pdanet. Thats it, I havent backed it up or anything.
Just got it so its 2.2, 3.30.651.2. I think I read some where that 3.30.651.2 cant be rooted if it was factory installed. Dont know the date of the thread i saw it on but is that true?
Any help about backing up before root would be great as well. Thanks a million
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828437
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thats a one click method....is that for phones running froyo 2.2? how do i know if that method will work? thats only for phones running hboot 2.02 how do i know i have that?
IMO, some of the older revisions of unrevoked had some issues and that's what tainted their methods. The latest iteration is stable and I would recommend going with it if you are on 3.29.
3.30 requires the s-off method posted above.
eyeballer1 said:
IMO, some of the older revisions of unrevoked had some issues and that's what tainted their methods. The latest iteration is stable and I would recommend going with it if you are on 3.29.
3.30 requires the s-off method posted above.
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Im running 3.29.651 . So I dont think ill be using the s-off method. Okay I understand now, so unrevoked fixed their crap i guess. So should i go with unrevoked 3.21 ?
evo4gfan said:
Im running 3.29.651 . So I dont think ill be using the s-off method. Okay I understand now, so unrevoked fixed their crap i guess. So should i go with unrevoked 3.21 ?
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Yeah, I've rooted 1 evo with the downgrade method and 3 with unrevoked. Unrevoked is faster and results are the same. Just follow the instructions carefully.
The only change I would make is download the amon ra 1.8.0 recovery .img (not the .zip) and in unrevoked before you start the flash, go to options and choose custom recovery and load the amon img. This way you'll be rooted with amon recovery not clockwork and you're all set.
the downgrade method was the one posted by dan wager (regaw_leinad) in late august right? So the link you posted is the latest one ?
Wait so, how do i get amon RA on my phone? am i supposed to get it after I root or during the root process? What about the nandroid backup? Can you tell me how to do that after i root? I know im supposed to download and flash the 2.2 rooted ROM and do a nandroid back up i think. I need a walk through =[
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the downgrade method was the one posted by dan wager (regaw_leinad) in late august right? So the link you posted is the latest one ?
Wait so, how do i get amon RA on my phone? am i supposed to get it after I root or during the root process? What about the nandroid backup?
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Yep that's the one. The link I posted is the guide for 3.29 unrevoked. Get the amon recovery here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026.
You load that .img file into the unrevoked app before you connect your phone, there's an option for custom recovery. Once unrevoked is finished. You can boot into recovery and make your first nandroid. After that, time to play
bumppppppp
You don't need to flash anything when you're done. You will be rooted with your current stock set up. Just boot into recovery and go to backup to make a nandroid.
ok that makes sense.... I need amon RA to do a nandroid back up right? can you tell me the process for putting amon RA on the phone? Do i need to do it during the root process? or after? Is the link you provided the latest version of amon RA?
bumppppppppp
Ok, seriously, stop bumping the thread for no reason at all.
The instructions are clear in the links I have given you as well as what I have said in this thread in terms of loading amon ra into unrevoked. You are free to reset to factory defaults at any point if you want to, there isn't any need to do that, as if you ever want to return to complete stock, you can wipe at any point and flash a stock ROM. You get into recovery by powering on the phone and holding vol down.
Your first post says "I have done some extreme extensive research" - clearly you have not, if you had, you wouldn't be asking the questions you are.
This is my last post on this, go read more before you start rooting and screw something up.
Good luck.
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Ok, seriously, stop bumping the thread for no reason at all.
The instructions are clear in the links I have given you as well as what I have said in this thread in terms of loading amon ra into unrevoked. You are free to reset to factory defaults at any point if you want to, there isn't any need to do that, as if you ever want to return to complete stock, you can wipe at any point and flash a stock ROM. You get into recovery by powering on the phone and holding vol down.
Your first post says "I have done some extreme extensive research" - clearly you have not, if you had, you wouldn't be asking the questions you are.
This is my last post on this, go read more before you start rooting and screw something up.
Good luck.
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You didn't tell me how to load amon ra into unrevoked. How do i load it into unrevoked when it requires the device to be rooted and nand to be unlocked?
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Ok, seriously, stop bumping the thread for no reason at all.
The instructions are clear in the links I have given you as well as what I have said in this thread in terms of loading amon ra into unrevoked. You are free to reset to factory defaults at any point if you want to, there isn't any need to do that, as if you ever want to return to complete stock, you can wipe at any point and flash a stock ROM. You get into recovery by powering on the phone and holding vol down.
Your first post says "I have done some extreme extensive research" - clearly you have not, if you had, you wouldn't be asking the questions you are.
This is my last post on this, go read more before you start rooting and screw something up.
Good luck.
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unrevoked gives me an option to copy the .img into it during the process?
Ok mods, I know this normally isn't the place, but I think this is very important as I'm seeing more and more semi bricks, some of which are not recoverable without HTC signing keys!
So I ask you mods, please don't lock this, if anything it really needs to be a sticky!
That being said, if you are s-off, do NOT flash the signed offical PC10IMG.zip. if you don't have the correct rom on there when you do, as per the unroot thread you will get stuck.
Let me give u an example of what I've been seeing and why its happening so everyone understands. Example: you perm root/s-off your phone. You decide to do some rom playing. You end up boot looping and can't fully boot into android. So u say hey, ill reload pc10 and start over, WRONG.
What happens is s-off does no checks, sigs, version number etc. So when you load it up it starts to flash. Hboot(s-on) is first, then recovery, then radio. Thing is it has to reboot to do radio, so it reboots, at this point your s-on so it does a version check. "Main is older" then it quits before ever touching the system.img or boot.img. at this point you are locked. You have s-on, stock recovery, and can't boot android. Long story short, your screwed.
Now depending on the rom/kernel u had/have installed you may have adb access. At this point you have a small chance of recovering, which is better then some. I just spent the last 5 hours working with someone on a fix and think we got it, but the bat has died and will have to pick back up tomo. If this works or not, I also have one more idea we can try. I will update OP with any fixes we find.
*If your system was bootable when you started this, it may still boot. but you will be s-on, stock recovery, and still on whatever rom you were running. at this point you will have to hex edit to downgrade, or wpthis.ko if there is one for your kernel to get back to s-off.
*ive seen some people saying. i did it, it worked for me, but don't add any supporting info. this is bad for people new to android cause it makes them feel they will be ok. the only way this can work is if you have a version installed as old or older then the official img, or if you take hboot out of the update which then makes it no longer the official update. but my question is why are you flashing this? if you want to fully unroot, then follow the unroot guide. if you just want to go back to stock w/root, grab one of the stock w/root roms.
Long story short, do your rom flashing from recovery. Stay out of hboot unless you are following proven instructions to a T, or being walked though be a "pro". I hope this helps save some people!
* if you just read all this going DAMN, i already did that, then go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
dyndragon said:
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
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When u say u saved a phone. Do u mean u stopped someone before they did it, or you mean u have a working fix. Pls post fix if u have one. I will post mine as soon as I confirm it.
Btw- I have seen 5 happen in the last 3 days. As I haven't gave up on any yet, some are worse off then others and only 2 have a possible fix in the am, well a fix I know of.
After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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I unrooted my phone, no problems.
No the instructions to unroot are correct because at the beginning you flash an alternate misc.img to change the main version number. I got stuck the other day because my phone wouldnt boot and i couldn't flash the ota because i had removed google goggles and some other system apps so i tried to downgrade using PC10IMG.zip and it cancelled during installation just as stated in the op and i was somehow able to flash the misc.img through fastboot and reflash with PC10IMG.zip
sethrd said:
After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
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If you did not flash the stock rom before you flashed the pc10, you got lucky. When it reboots half way though, it does a version check, and the rom version you happened to be running must have been an older base. If your phone is bootable and you flash the pc10 OUT OF ORDER it will lock you down that way, ie locked on sense. If anyone wants to go back to stock, just flash one of the stock w/root roms in recovery or via rom manager... trust me on this, there are more people screwing up there phone because of this then anything, just not posting about it. I've been up all hours of the night, helping differnt people the last few days.
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So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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No the unroot guide is ok. If you notice, the first thing it has you flash is the stock w/root rom. Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok. That is if you want to go back to non-root only though. If you just want stock with root, flash a stock with root rom via RECOVERY or ROM MANAGER.
Im not to sure how it all works and i just got up a little bit ago .
but since s-off doesnt check the sign couldnt we unpack and repack pc10img with the hboot with s-off?
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Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok.
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Well he's edited his post now, and people have followed his instuctions and bricked their phones.
So just to confirm before I brick mine: The instructions in their current form will not brick my phone, right?
I had s-off when running baconbits. I tried to revert back to stock but couldn't. I then flashed pauls prerooted phone rom and tried to install the stock rom back onto the phone. I seems to have removed the s-off and now displays s-on. I am permanently rooted, but fastboot still shows s-on. Was this caused because I tried to flash the pc10img.zip? Now how do i revert back to stock? I don't have a nandroid backup for the stock rom, just paul's which after a recovery still displays s-on. It doesn't loop, I just can't install anything else on there.
I flashed pc10 and it turned S-ON. But when I booted it up I still had root acess, so it was like a temp root but where I could not write to the system. I took the ko file from the perm root and hex edited it to match the kernal on my phone.. boom rooted again and I was able to flash recovery and do a nand restore
I tested it out again by hbooting pc10.. and I was able to obtain s-off by changing the kernal number in the ko file
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So let me get this straight, in order to flash pc10 safely we MUST have an existing PreRooted STOCK ROM?
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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marc91988 said:
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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Exactly. If you actually follow the directions in the thread you will be fine. I've done it more than a few times and have not had any problems yet.
I have also updated the instruction on the unroot guide aswell.
I was running the original Sense rom that was loaded via hboot which kept me at s-off. I was able to revert back to stock using the PC10 zip from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 At the time I had no clockwork recovery. Was what I unsafe?
Thanks for the piece of mind. I don't want to unroot just yet, I'm running pretty much the stock rom w/ ota and bacon bits anyway, so........ Still it's nice to know that I can get back to stock should I NEED to.
Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?
fryrice8850 said:
Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?
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These people didnt nand back before messing around with stuff
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I unrooted my EVO because I had to take it to sprint for a possible swap becuase of some issues I was having. Well come to find out it was nothing big and they updated the phone to 2.3.3 but I still have have S-off. Is it possible to still root the phone and get a custom recovery?
Yes; and props to you for posting the thread in the correct area.
cdsbj6508 said:
I unrooted my EVO because I had to take it to sprint for a possible swap becuase of some issues I was having. Well come to find out it was nothing big and they updated the phone to 2.3.3 but I still have have S-off. Is it possible to still root the phone and get a custom recovery?
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You should be able to access the recovery through the bootloader. If it was erased, you can flash whichever recovery you want by renaming it PC36IMG.zip, placing it on the root of your sdcard and the bootloader will auto-detect, and prompt you to flash.
Here is Amon Ra: http://db.tt/WP0beNa
And here is Clockwork, if you must: http://db.tt/9sksyTK
Both are named properly, follow the directions in the post above (just don't rename). You can then restore a nandroid backup or flash a new rom.
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You did it the right way. Returned to stock, keeping it s-off and you just verified what I am always led to believe; Sprint doesn't even check the bootloader to see if you are s-on or off....
HipKat said:
You did it the right way. Returned to stock, keeping it s-off and you just verified what I am always led to believe; Sprint doesn't even check the bootloader to see if you are s-on or off....
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Yeah I know I read that somewhere in the forum so that's what I did!
I'm willing to bet that if I just flashed my nandroid of my stock/rooted and took it to Sprint, they would never even know.
Ok another problem. I flash RA-Supersonic-v2.3 and did a restore from a previous ROM and it worked. But now when I try to flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183252 it downloads and when I select reboot it takes me to the Fastboot screen. Any help would be GREAT?
**Edit** Never Mind I got it!
I made a mistake rooting a friends droid incredible and left s-on, I have clockwork but it cant flash anything, I presume its because of the s-on. I wiped the phone without a backup to install miui, so I now have a droid incredible that can only get into hboot, clockwork, and fastboot. It also will not install 31img.zips, Yes ive renamed them correctly I just call them 31's. Help please?
You need to flash an RUU in the form of PB31IMG.zip. It needs to be named PB31IMG.zip and on the root of a FAT32 formatted sdcard. If you use the froyo RUU on pvillecomp.com you can use unrevoked to root again though your friend will just want it working.
My HBOOT wont give me the option to flash, it finds it and checks it, but wont let me install. im downloading the froyo ruu right now in hopes that it will connect through fastboot and do it.
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
(sorry for double post) RUU's will not work
deathangel1496 said:
I am on hboot version 1.02. My nexus and optimus s were so simple.
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Have you used the htc dev site to unkock the bootloader? If not you need to do that, then fastboot flash cwm recovery, then flash superuser thru cwm recovery.
SlimSnoopOS said:
What is your hboot version?
Tiny you are more knowledgeable at this than I, but I was wondering
1) would using PB31IMG's fail if used on the 1.02 hboot?
2) If they were to use the unrevoked tool to flash s-off, could they install a rom without having to boot into the already wiped phone?
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I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
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I would try flashing unrevoked forever before doing anything else. Logically this would get you s-off and allow you to flash a ROM. I wouldn't run straight to unlocking your bootloader because it is a lot harder to reverse that than it is to reverse the effects of unrevoked forever. (in the long run, that is. right now there would be no reason to reverse either)
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actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
tiny4579 said:
actually bootloader is easy to lock. I think it's fastboot oem lock. You can unlock it again using the same token you used to unlock before that you should save if you decide to do that. Unrevoked forever only works on certain radio versions. With an unlocked bootloader you should be able to flash any PB31IMG.zip as well as flash with fastboot. With S-OFF I know you can flash custom PB31IMG.zip and also older RUUs.
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Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
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Yes, but doesn't it then say 're-locked bootloader' or something to that effect where verizon or whoever else could tell that it has been unlocked before and therefore void any warranty? Whereas the s-off tool can be reversed using the s-on tool and nobody has to know anything was ever there. I don't have any experience in that department, I'm just speculating based on things that I have read.
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Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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Maybe, but I think when you submit for an unlock token is when HTC knows you unlocked your bootloader.
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That is probably true, I never thought of that. I guess they probably think that I have an unlocked bootloader now too since I made an account and downloaded the tool to help a friend with his phone.
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I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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I may be mistaken, but isn't this what you are looking for?
http://pvillecomp.com/?page_id=22
additionally, why did you flash stock recovery vs. CWM? I don't have any experience with stock but CWM seems to be perfect for anything I've ever needed a recovery for. ie - flashing new ROMs or backing up/ restoring ROMs
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I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the stock recovery. where can I go from here? can anyone provide an update.zip? all the links seem to be down for the froyo one
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Do steps 6 - 27 of this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506258 to install cwm recovery and get root. If you want true s-off continue to follow steps 28 - 43.
In my attempt to unlock bootloader, I stupidly upgraded my software version to 3.12.405.1 while using Easy Unlock Tool, because I wasn't paying attention what it was saying in the CMD.exe. Now I'm trying to downgrade it, because I can't seem to succeed doing anything with it (Rooting, Installing CWM or changing ROM). Also, it's S-ON, so I'm trying to get it S-OFF as well.
I'm lost. Can anyone help me out here?
PS: I really don't need to be reminded that I messed up...
EDIT: I managed to root it, install CWM. What I need to do now is get S-OFF and put a custom rom (Do I really need S-OFF?).
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In my attempt to unlock bootloader, I stupidly upgraded my software version to 3.12.405.1 while using Easy Unlock Tool, because I wasn't paying attention what it was saying in the CMD.exe. Now I'm trying to downgrade it, because I can't seem to succeed doing anything with it (Rooting, Installing CWM or changing ROM). Also, it's S-ON, so I'm trying to get it S-OFF as well.
I'm lost. Can anyone help me out here?
PS: I really don't need to be reminded that I messed up...
EDIT: I managed to root it, install CWM. What I need to do now is get S-OFF and put a custom rom (Do I really need S-OFF?).
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Have you checked here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2221039
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Have you checked here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2221039
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No, but I'm all good now. I don't really need to S-OFF as I've seen in other guides, but I need to know how to flash a kernel via boot.img.
rareshutzu said:
No, but I'm all good now. I don't really need to S-OFF as I've seen in other guides, but I need to know how to flash a kernel via boot.img.
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Have you installed 4ext recovery? Download 4ext from the google play, that will let you install 4ext recovery free for 3 days or something - long enough, only takes a few minutes! And roms and kernals can be flashed from there
tonylee000 said:
Have you installed 4ext recovery? Download 4ext from the google play, that will let you install 4ext recovery free for 3 days or something - long enough, only takes a few minutes! And roms and kernals can be flashed from there
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I got CWM. Found some guide how to rom without s-off. Thx anyway
This post should be closed, as I don't need help on downgrading anymore.