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Ok, here is what I am trying to achieve if its even possible. I have some bad hardware not allowing me to custom kernels (most). I can run a few but one is older and one is not released. So basically knowing that I have bad hardware. I need to replace the one but I need to have a recovery to where I can flash a zip as normal and have S=on...
Is this possible? thanks
So are you currently set at S-off, or at s-on and trying to flash to s-on.
tomh1979 said:
So are you currently set at S-off, or at s-on and trying to flash to s-on.
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I'm currently S=off with clockwork installed. I just need clockwork with S=on so I can flash a zip before I return my phone.
First you need to flash the S-ON tool, then flash a stock PC36IMG.zip.
See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
BTW...dont mention to Sprint (or wherever you bought your phone from) that you are trying to use custom kernels or your warranty will be void. If everything is working fine when it's stock, I doubt they will give you a replacement.
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kd0axs said:
First you need to flash the S-ON tool, then flash a stock PC36IMG.zip.
See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
BTW...dont mention to Sprint (or wherever you bought your phone from) that you are trying to use custom kernels or your warranty will be void. If everything is working fine when it's stock, I doubt they will give you a replacement.
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That is perfect! thanks!
Now next question. Now that I achieved S=on and the ability to flash zips, can I some how delete the recovery after I flash the zip I need? What I am going to achieve is basically the phone wont boot and from what I was told the sprint repair store wont have a RUU capabilities so basically they wont know whats wrong and just have to exchange my phone. I dont want any trace that I was rooted or have a custom recovery.
Thanks!
When you flash the stock PC36IMG.zip it returns you completely to stock with no root or custom recovery. There will still be incriminating evidence on your SD card though, like any ROMs, kernels, etc and the clockwork folder. Your best bet is to backup anything you want to keep from the SD card and then format it to get rid of those things and any personal data.
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kd0axs said:
When you flash the stock PC36IMG.zip it returns you completely to stock with no root or custom recovery. There will still be incriminating evidence on your SD card though, like any ROMs, kernels, etc and the clockwork folder. Your best bet is to backup anything you want to keep from the SD card and then format it to get rid of those things and any personal data.
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Im tracking with the RUU and back to stock. Thing im trying to achieve is the ability to flash a single file, (which will make phone look broke) and have S=on. Then was just wondering if I can delete clockwork after this is done? Say from adb or something of that sorts.. only files on SD card are that single zip and backs ups of apps. Which im sure they wont/can't look at.
Ok mods, I know this normally isn't the place, but I think this is very important as I'm seeing more and more semi bricks, some of which are not recoverable without HTC signing keys!
So I ask you mods, please don't lock this, if anything it really needs to be a sticky!
That being said, if you are s-off, do NOT flash the signed offical PC10IMG.zip. if you don't have the correct rom on there when you do, as per the unroot thread you will get stuck.
Let me give u an example of what I've been seeing and why its happening so everyone understands. Example: you perm root/s-off your phone. You decide to do some rom playing. You end up boot looping and can't fully boot into android. So u say hey, ill reload pc10 and start over, WRONG.
What happens is s-off does no checks, sigs, version number etc. So when you load it up it starts to flash. Hboot(s-on) is first, then recovery, then radio. Thing is it has to reboot to do radio, so it reboots, at this point your s-on so it does a version check. "Main is older" then it quits before ever touching the system.img or boot.img. at this point you are locked. You have s-on, stock recovery, and can't boot android. Long story short, your screwed.
Now depending on the rom/kernel u had/have installed you may have adb access. At this point you have a small chance of recovering, which is better then some. I just spent the last 5 hours working with someone on a fix and think we got it, but the bat has died and will have to pick back up tomo. If this works or not, I also have one more idea we can try. I will update OP with any fixes we find.
*If your system was bootable when you started this, it may still boot. but you will be s-on, stock recovery, and still on whatever rom you were running. at this point you will have to hex edit to downgrade, or wpthis.ko if there is one for your kernel to get back to s-off.
*ive seen some people saying. i did it, it worked for me, but don't add any supporting info. this is bad for people new to android cause it makes them feel they will be ok. the only way this can work is if you have a version installed as old or older then the official img, or if you take hboot out of the update which then makes it no longer the official update. but my question is why are you flashing this? if you want to fully unroot, then follow the unroot guide. if you just want to go back to stock w/root, grab one of the stock w/root roms.
Long story short, do your rom flashing from recovery. Stay out of hboot unless you are following proven instructions to a T, or being walked though be a "pro". I hope this helps save some people!
* if you just read all this going DAMN, i already did that, then go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
dyndragon said:
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
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When u say u saved a phone. Do u mean u stopped someone before they did it, or you mean u have a working fix. Pls post fix if u have one. I will post mine as soon as I confirm it.
Btw- I have seen 5 happen in the last 3 days. As I haven't gave up on any yet, some are worse off then others and only 2 have a possible fix in the am, well a fix I know of.
After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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I unrooted my phone, no problems.
No the instructions to unroot are correct because at the beginning you flash an alternate misc.img to change the main version number. I got stuck the other day because my phone wouldnt boot and i couldn't flash the ota because i had removed google goggles and some other system apps so i tried to downgrade using PC10IMG.zip and it cancelled during installation just as stated in the op and i was somehow able to flash the misc.img through fastboot and reflash with PC10IMG.zip
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After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
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If you did not flash the stock rom before you flashed the pc10, you got lucky. When it reboots half way though, it does a version check, and the rom version you happened to be running must have been an older base. If your phone is bootable and you flash the pc10 OUT OF ORDER it will lock you down that way, ie locked on sense. If anyone wants to go back to stock, just flash one of the stock w/root roms in recovery or via rom manager... trust me on this, there are more people screwing up there phone because of this then anything, just not posting about it. I've been up all hours of the night, helping differnt people the last few days.
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So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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No the unroot guide is ok. If you notice, the first thing it has you flash is the stock w/root rom. Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok. That is if you want to go back to non-root only though. If you just want stock with root, flash a stock with root rom via RECOVERY or ROM MANAGER.
Im not to sure how it all works and i just got up a little bit ago .
but since s-off doesnt check the sign couldnt we unpack and repack pc10img with the hboot with s-off?
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Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok.
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Well he's edited his post now, and people have followed his instuctions and bricked their phones.
So just to confirm before I brick mine: The instructions in their current form will not brick my phone, right?
I had s-off when running baconbits. I tried to revert back to stock but couldn't. I then flashed pauls prerooted phone rom and tried to install the stock rom back onto the phone. I seems to have removed the s-off and now displays s-on. I am permanently rooted, but fastboot still shows s-on. Was this caused because I tried to flash the pc10img.zip? Now how do i revert back to stock? I don't have a nandroid backup for the stock rom, just paul's which after a recovery still displays s-on. It doesn't loop, I just can't install anything else on there.
I flashed pc10 and it turned S-ON. But when I booted it up I still had root acess, so it was like a temp root but where I could not write to the system. I took the ko file from the perm root and hex edited it to match the kernal on my phone.. boom rooted again and I was able to flash recovery and do a nand restore
I tested it out again by hbooting pc10.. and I was able to obtain s-off by changing the kernal number in the ko file
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So let me get this straight, in order to flash pc10 safely we MUST have an existing PreRooted STOCK ROM?
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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marc91988 said:
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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Exactly. If you actually follow the directions in the thread you will be fine. I've done it more than a few times and have not had any problems yet.
I have also updated the instruction on the unroot guide aswell.
I was running the original Sense rom that was loaded via hboot which kept me at s-off. I was able to revert back to stock using the PC10 zip from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 At the time I had no clockwork recovery. Was what I unsafe?
Thanks for the piece of mind. I don't want to unroot just yet, I'm running pretty much the stock rom w/ ota and bacon bits anyway, so........ Still it's nice to know that I can get back to stock should I NEED to.
Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?
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Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?
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These people didnt nand back before messing around with stuff
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Propibly a stupid question but i rooted my phone a while back and it is still s-on and i'm not sure if i'm going to s-off so i was wondering is it safe to use unrevoked again on my phone with out wiping data and cache and by that way flash cwm 3.0.0.5?
Oo and sorry for my english hope you understand what i'm trying to ask
You can't root an already rooted phone, doesn't work and can mess everything up so you have to start again, unless you go S-Off ofc.
I thought so
So i think i have to go s-off atleast to get the newest cwm.
But i don't know much about s-off and what i get from doing it so it's a bit scary
Try Rom-manager from the Market!
With it you can update, very easy now stress no need for s-off
But it is a temporary fake-flash - next time you reboot, you get the previous version.
For permanent update either S-OFF....
or some people said they succeeded with using the same version of unrEVOked for flashing the update, as the version they used for rooting. Just select a custom image.
Yes use unrevoked to flash it. No problem. Nandroid just in case.
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I don't know much about s-off and what i get from doing it so it's a bit scary
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If you want to know more about S-Off just look here. Just read everything carefully, when you have understood you can do it.
From doing it you will get several things. Of course you will be able to flash the recovery you want directly with fastboot. You will also be able to flash another radio or another hboot. In particular you could be interested in changing hboot if you want a different partition layout, everything is explained in the link above.
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Yes use unrevoked to flash it. No problem. Nandroid just in case.
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But if it messes up i might not get into recovery and i need to ruu it right? And does a nandroid take backup of recovery?
And thanks Ed Roid i will look into that
I have a Evo with 3.70.651.1 software. I want to restore everything back to stock and unroot the phone. I have been using the clockworkmod recovery and would like to remove it and flash the stock recovery Back to the phone. I have been searching for 2 days and I can't find it anywhere... I also want to unroot my phone and get it back to stock, the guides that I have found to turn s-off back to s-on seem to be for people who used the unrevoked rooting method. I rooted via the Autoroot method therefore I'm not sure if the same way to unroot applies. How can I get my phone To stock recovery,unrooted, and back to stock without screwing it up? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
If I'm not mistaken, Autoroot still uses unrevoked forever for nand unlock, so your unrooting method would be the same. Flash s-on zip, then run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG through the bootloader.
The stock Evo recovery is no recovery. Unrooting will delete your custom recovery, so you'll be fine.
Good luck!
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
I think you could go to http://theunlockr.com/ down load a stock ROM to your SD card and then flash the ROM to your phone. Sounds like it would work.
A big thank you!!!
After all said and done, I've never known the answer to the question as to the "stock recovery". I've searched for weeks looking for a way to get rid of the clockwork mod recovery and putting the stock recovery back on with no results. I never knew that the stock recovery didn't exist! Now I do. Thank you!
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If I'm not mistaken, Autoroot still uses unrevoked forever for nand unlock, so your unrooting method would be the same. Flash s-on zip, then run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG through the bootloader.
The stock Evo recovery is no recovery. Unrooting will delete your custom recovery, so you'll be fine.
Good luck!
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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I just wanted to update, I was able to get my phone unrooted and back to stock. It all went very smooth. I also was under the impression that there was a stock recovery and was frustrated from searching to no avail. thanks for taking the time to help me out.
It does seem odd that there is no straight forward guide to return your phone to stock. I've been modding phones since the RAZR and there was always an escape route back to stock for every phone I had, except the Evo.
I thought unrEVOked site had decent directions for un-root on their forever root page... (though I've never needed to un-root)
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shadowstalker69 said:
I thought unrEVOked site had decent directions for un-root on their forever root page... (though I've never needed to un-root)
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Correct . . . they do . .
I don't think Custom Recovery replaces stock recovery, it's more like a shell making recovery user friendly and fully functional.
It's like in the early days of Windows. Windows was a shell program while DOS was always there, but you needed a way to access DOS, hence, the command prompt.
(Actually DOS, in a way, is still there)
jeriel05 said:
I have a Evo with 3.70.651.1 software. I want to restore everything back to stock and unroot the phone. I have been using the clockworkmod recovery and would like to remove it and flash the stock recovery Back to the phone. I have been searching for 2 days and I can't find it anywhere... I also want to unroot my phone and get it back to stock, the guides that I have found to turn s-off back to s-on seem to be for people who used the unrevoked rooting method. I rooted via the Autoroot method therefore I'm not sure if the same way to unroot applies. How can I get my phone To stock recovery,unrooted, and back to stock without screwing it up? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Maybe this will help....
http://http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
hit thanks lol
jeriel05 said:
I just wanted to update, I was able to get my phone uprooted and back to stock. It all went very smooth. I also was under the impression that there was a stock recovery and was frustrated from searching to no avail. thanks for taking the time to help me out.
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How did you finally remove the custom recovery? I have tried to flash the PC36IMG.zip many times and it looks like it was done, but I still have the Recovery option and when I hit it, it will load back the Clockwork custom recovery mode.
How do I bring it back to stock?
I tried to update mine with the official OTA this morning and it fails with the android with the ! icon.
for those in this thread having problems this may help?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...U2Mi1hNWU0LTRlNjEtYWMyOC1lZmU4ODg1ODc1ODI&ifq
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for those in this thread having problems this may help?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...U2Mi1hNWU0LTRlNjEtYWMyOC1lZmU4ODg1ODc1ODI&ifq
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brad560,
Thanks for this. This is the most complete and detailed step by step. I went through all the steps and that's exactly what I had gone through. I flashed the S-ON and verified it was working (got the S-ON) then flash the PC3IMG.zip and it went through fine as well.
But when everything was done, I still have the Recovery option and when I selected it, it still brings up Clockwork recovery mode!
What's I'm missing? I just checked the checksum of the PC3IMG.zip file I use, and yes, it shows correct check sum as listed in the instruction above.
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brad560,
Thanks for this. This is the most complete and detailed step by step. I went through all the steps and that's exactly what I had gone through. I flashed the S-ON and verified it was working (got the S-ON) then flash the PC3IMG.zip and it went through fine as well.
But when everything was done, I still have the Recovery option and when I selected it, it still brings up Clockwork recovery mode!
What's I'm missing? I just checked the checksum of the PC3IMG.zip file I use, and yes, it shows correct check sum as listed in the instruction above.
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relly? i have used this method plenty of times with clockwork and ra_ before hand, never had them left over. i did, before i used the method wiped everything 3-4 times before i flashed the files onto my sd card. sorry i don't know why this is happening to you explicitly?
I just tried one more time flashing the PC3IMG.zip and this time it works!
It went through 2 iterations (reboot in between then continue to the next step) and I'm back to a new phone! Finally! Thanks again for your help and the detailed instruction!
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I have a Evo with 3.70.651.1 software. I want to restore everything back to stock and unroot the phone. I have been using the clockworkmod recovery and would like to remove it and flash the stock recovery Back to the phone. I have been searching for 2 days and I can't find it anywhere... I also want to unroot my phone and get it back to stock, the guides that I have found to turn s-off back to s-on seem to be for people who used the unrevoked rooting method. I rooted via the Autoroot method therefore I'm not sure if the same way to unroot applies. How can I get my phone To stock recovery,unrooted, and back to stock without screwing it up? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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could you please help me??? i need to unroot my phone how did you do it.. please help
brad560 said:
for those in this thread having problems this may help?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...U2Mi1hNWU0LTRlNjEtYWMyOC1lZmU4ODg1ODc1ODI&ifq
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WOW, that is the most complete, detailed walk-through I've ever seen, I think... Awesome job!
I bookmarked it for future reference, even though I've run RUU before with no problems
Oh so close to undoing my huge mistake. After hours I was finally able to get to recovery menu after following directions of how to unroot through unrecover forever. I am the step of applying the zip unrevoked forever, at the end it says unsupported radio version. What do I do
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could you please help me??? i need to unroot my phone how did you do it.. please help
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When I had to return my phone due to a bad usb port it took all of five minutes and is not as difficult as you guys are making it out to seem. Actually you can do an OTA update which will unroot you. Of course depending on what OS you are running and there are tons of threads with the RUU which is how I did it.
Plugged my phone up crossed my fingers that my USB Port would hold out and ran the .exe or you can use the PC36IMG.zip file that is in the same threads. Then flash unrevoked S-on zip and your back to stock
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If anyone's interested, I made a tutorial a while ago on RUU'ing an EVO back to 100% stock. You can find it here: http://j.mp/ruuevo4g
I need to unroot my phone so I can get a few things fixed on it. There is a thread out there talking about if you have used unrevoked forever to root your phone. Is there a difference between using "unrevoked3" or "unrevoked forever"? It is two different links on the unrevoked website. Or are they just considering the unrevoked method as one? Any help will be appreciated, thanks!
Just go to unrevoked.com and you'll find what you are looking for. There links and stuff to help you out. If you used this method before when you rooted.
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Download the s-on zip, flash it in recovery to get s-on before running the ruu.
Ok, I understand that now.
Now for the PC36IMG file. A lot of people are saying that they are getting errors when they flash this, but I have not seen anyone post a link that is working. What is the newest file that should be used in place of this?
unrevoked3 contains unrevoked forever. Just unroot like you would with any other way, place an s-on zip and a stock rom pc36img on the root of the sd card. Boot into recovery, flash s-on zip, then flash the pc36img stock rom.
So on this website of ruu's, which one is the right one/best to use?
http://goo-inside.me/supersonic/ruu
If you're just getting it fixed, I'd leave s-off so you can get root access back when you get your phone back.
They should still service your phone as long you have stock software. They may do an OTA, but when you get your phone back just flash a recovery then restore a nandroid backup (make one before you unroot).
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I thought you could root again after you unroot (well most of the time). So you're basically saying don't flash the S-On, just flash the PC36IMG. That will set me back to a stock rom with root capabilities?
The only issue i'm having is a charging issue. Not sure if it is the port or the battery. But I know if I can't get it to charge again (and can't get back to stock) I'll be screwed with the warranty.
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I thought you could root again after you unroot (well most of the time). So you're basically saying don't flash the S-On, just flash the PC36IMG. That will set me back to a stock rom with root capabilities?
The only issue i'm having is a charging issue. Not sure if it is the port or the battery. But I know if I can't get it to charge again (and can't get back to stock) I'll be screwed with the warranty.
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You won't be able to root again if you have s-on and the Gingerbread update. If you leave s-off then you'll be able to flash a PC36IMG of a recovery and be back in business. Even if you don't update to Gingerbread OTA, the Sprint store probably will.
If it's your charging port then they'll have to replace your phone... in which case you'll most likely get a replacement that can't be rooted. If you do get a replacement with 2.3, still check the bootloader to see if it's s-off. A few people have gotten refurbs that were never put back to s-on.
Just flash the PC36IMG of an RUU - the 3.70 one should be fine. If absolutely necessary, you can charge your battery in an external wall charger. I have multiple batteries and use one to charge my extras. I'm not sure if you can get one in stores, I got mine online.
Edit: leaving s-off and flashing an RUU doesn't mean you'll have root access - ie Superuser, root apps, etc - but you will be able to flash a rooted rom later or restore a nandroid backup of your current rooted setup.
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