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Best way to unroot.

Hi guys I am looking for the best way to unroot my phone and return everything to the way it was out of the box.
I currently have full root with nand unlocked.
Thanks all.
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From the unrevoked website:
How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update
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I would install an official update first (to get rid of root) and then use that tool to re-lock the NAND.
Here's the link. I can't post it since I'm a new user:
downloads[/url][DOT]unrevoked[DOT]com/forever/current/unrevoked-forever-son.zip

not that simple. first, run the s-on tool. then, flash your misc partition with toast's modified mtd-eng.img. finally, flash a stock pc36img.zip. sound all good?

Hmmm..... now I'm even more confused.
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use the unrevoked s-on tool. then downlaod this thing. evo4g.me/downloads//count.php?target=evo-root.zip
unzip. put mtd-eng.img on your sdcard, nad adb push (which u need to set up if it isn't already) flash_image to /data/local. type:
adb shell
(make sure screen is on and unlocked) su (accept)
chmod 755 /data/local/flash_image
/data/local/flash_image misc /sdcard/mtd-eng.img
then flash a stock pc36img.zip from hboot.

Ummm...you dont need s on to unroot as i just sent a phone back that i unrooted....all i did was downgrade to an older rooted build then ran the ruu from latest update. That put s on for me and unrooted
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Sorry if I sound stupid, but what is the s on tool?
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JuggZaPoppiN said:
Sorry if I sound stupid, but what is the s on tool?
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When you do a NAND unlock (aka a full root), the bootloader is turned to S-OFF to allow you to flash non-official ROMs, recoveries, etc. The S-ON tool allows you to turn it back to the ON position which is standard for non-developer devices (aka consumer-level). When you first bought your phone, it said S-ON in the bootloader, top right (hold volume-down while turning on your phone). Now it says S-OFF. You need it back in S-ON position to make it look like you were on a stock ROM (as well as putting the stock ROM back on).

Product F(RED) said:
When you do a NAND unlock (aka a full root), the bootloader is turned to S-OFF to allow you to flash non-official ROMs, recoveries, etc. The S-ON tool allows you to turn it back to the ON position which is standard for non-developer devices (aka consumer-level). When you first bought your phone, it said S-ON in the bootloader, top right (hold volume-down while turning on your phone). Now it says S-OFF. You need it back in S-ON position to make it look like you were on a stock ROM (as well as putting the stock ROM back on).
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Thank you. I will give all this a try and post back my results.
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I'm in the same boat...
I need to do the same to my Evo. Would it hurt if I just flashed the latest stock RUU instead of messing with s-on s-off utilities etc? It is a newer version than what I have on my phone now.
Thanks,
Dan

ah, this is why i refuse to use unrevoked...i rather downgrade to 1.47 and then root my phone using 1.47 methods...lol but when i was on 3.29 (not using unrevoked) all i did was run the official RUU on my computer with my phone plugged in and it unrooted my phone, and gave me s-on and flashed stock recovery.

mrjeancw said:
ah, this is why i refuse to use unrevoked...i rather downgrade to 1.47 and then root my phone using 1.47 methods...lol but when i was on 3.29 (not using unrevoked) all i did was run the official RUU on my computer with my phone plugged in and it unrooted my phone, and gave me s-on and flashed stock recovery.
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When I rooted my phone I did not use unrevoked either.
Is this a method that I can use to unroot my phone and return my phone to default?

JuggZaPoppiN said:
When I rooted my phone I did not use unrevoked either.
Is this a method that I can use to unroot my phone and return my phone to default?
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yea, use the latest ruu or the 3.29 to be on the safe side and it will restore you completely to stock.

DON'T use the latest...
That is if you want to be able to root again afterwards. The latest RUU 3.30.651.2 has not been cracked yet and you will be stuck with stock rom, until a solution is found at least. I did this and now I regret it, use anything 3.29 or below and you will be fine.
Oh... and dont accept any OTA's (over the air updates) while on an older rom or the same thing will happen.

danh18 said:
That is if you want to be able to root again afterwards. The latest RUU 3.30.651.2 has not been cracked yet and you will be stuck with stock rom, until a solution is found at least. I did this and now I regret it, use anything 3.29 or below and you will be fine.
Oh... and dont accept any OTA's (over the air updates) while on an older rom or the same thing will happen.
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He is right. I figured u wanted to unroot because ur sending back to sprint. If thats not the case then use 3.29 or under. I dont think they have found a root for 3.30....sorry bout that.

Is this not a rooted 3.30?....or am I mistaken?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819838

So the main reason I am wanting to unroot is because I am currently having some issues with mms. ONLY on AOSP roms though, and want to see if I restore my phone back to factory default and then gain root access if my problems will be gone.
So if I run just the 3.29 ruu, then my phone will be back on default? I wont have to worry about the s-on s-off thing?

[WARNING] If you have s-off do NOT flash offical pc10img.zip

Ok mods, I know this normally isn't the place, but I think this is very important as I'm seeing more and more semi bricks, some of which are not recoverable without HTC signing keys!
So I ask you mods, please don't lock this, if anything it really needs to be a sticky!
That being said, if you are s-off, do NOT flash the signed offical PC10IMG.zip. if you don't have the correct rom on there when you do, as per the unroot thread you will get stuck.
Let me give u an example of what I've been seeing and why its happening so everyone understands. Example: you perm root/s-off your phone. You decide to do some rom playing. You end up boot looping and can't fully boot into android. So u say hey, ill reload pc10 and start over, WRONG.
What happens is s-off does no checks, sigs, version number etc. So when you load it up it starts to flash. Hboot(s-on) is first, then recovery, then radio. Thing is it has to reboot to do radio, so it reboots, at this point your s-on so it does a version check. "Main is older" then it quits before ever touching the system.img or boot.img. at this point you are locked. You have s-on, stock recovery, and can't boot android. Long story short, your screwed.
Now depending on the rom/kernel u had/have installed you may have adb access. At this point you have a small chance of recovering, which is better then some. I just spent the last 5 hours working with someone on a fix and think we got it, but the bat has died and will have to pick back up tomo. If this works or not, I also have one more idea we can try. I will update OP with any fixes we find.
*If your system was bootable when you started this, it may still boot. but you will be s-on, stock recovery, and still on whatever rom you were running. at this point you will have to hex edit to downgrade, or wpthis.ko if there is one for your kernel to get back to s-off.
*ive seen some people saying. i did it, it worked for me, but don't add any supporting info. this is bad for people new to android cause it makes them feel they will be ok. the only way this can work is if you have a version installed as old or older then the official img, or if you take hboot out of the update which then makes it no longer the official update. but my question is why are you flashing this? if you want to fully unroot, then follow the unroot guide. if you just want to go back to stock w/root, grab one of the stock w/root roms.
Long story short, do your rom flashing from recovery. Stay out of hboot unless you are following proven instructions to a T, or being walked though be a "pro". I hope this helps save some people!
* if you just read all this going DAMN, i already did that, then go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495

Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP

dyndragon said:
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
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When u say u saved a phone. Do u mean u stopped someone before they did it, or you mean u have a working fix. Pls post fix if u have one. I will post mine as soon as I confirm it.
Btw- I have seen 5 happen in the last 3 days. As I haven't gave up on any yet, some are worse off then others and only 2 have a possible fix in the am, well a fix I know of.

After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.

So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?

KronicAnarchy said:
So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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I unrooted my phone, no problems.

No the instructions to unroot are correct because at the beginning you flash an alternate misc.img to change the main version number. I got stuck the other day because my phone wouldnt boot and i couldn't flash the ota because i had removed google goggles and some other system apps so i tried to downgrade using PC10IMG.zip and it cancelled during installation just as stated in the op and i was somehow able to flash the misc.img through fastboot and reflash with PC10IMG.zip

sethrd said:
After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
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If you did not flash the stock rom before you flashed the pc10, you got lucky. When it reboots half way though, it does a version check, and the rom version you happened to be running must have been an older base. If your phone is bootable and you flash the pc10 OUT OF ORDER it will lock you down that way, ie locked on sense. If anyone wants to go back to stock, just flash one of the stock w/root roms in recovery or via rom manager... trust me on this, there are more people screwing up there phone because of this then anything, just not posting about it. I've been up all hours of the night, helping differnt people the last few days.
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So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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No the unroot guide is ok. If you notice, the first thing it has you flash is the stock w/root rom. Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok. That is if you want to go back to non-root only though. If you just want stock with root, flash a stock with root rom via RECOVERY or ROM MANAGER.

Im not to sure how it all works and i just got up a little bit ago .
but since s-off doesnt check the sign couldnt we unpack and repack pc10img with the hboot with s-off?

fastludeh22 said:
Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok.
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Well he's edited his post now, and people have followed his instuctions and bricked their phones.
So just to confirm before I brick mine: The instructions in their current form will not brick my phone, right?

I had s-off when running baconbits. I tried to revert back to stock but couldn't. I then flashed pauls prerooted phone rom and tried to install the stock rom back onto the phone. I seems to have removed the s-off and now displays s-on. I am permanently rooted, but fastboot still shows s-on. Was this caused because I tried to flash the pc10img.zip? Now how do i revert back to stock? I don't have a nandroid backup for the stock rom, just paul's which after a recovery still displays s-on. It doesn't loop, I just can't install anything else on there.

I flashed pc10 and it turned S-ON. But when I booted it up I still had root acess, so it was like a temp root but where I could not write to the system. I took the ko file from the perm root and hex edited it to match the kernal on my phone.. boom rooted again and I was able to flash recovery and do a nand restore
I tested it out again by hbooting pc10.. and I was able to obtain s-off by changing the kernal number in the ko file
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So let me get this straight, in order to flash pc10 safely we MUST have an existing PreRooted STOCK ROM?

No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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marc91988 said:
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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Exactly. If you actually follow the directions in the thread you will be fine. I've done it more than a few times and have not had any problems yet.

I have also updated the instruction on the unroot guide aswell.

I was running the original Sense rom that was loaded via hboot which kept me at s-off. I was able to revert back to stock using the PC10 zip from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 At the time I had no clockwork recovery. Was what I unsafe?

Thanks for the piece of mind. I don't want to unroot just yet, I'm running pretty much the stock rom w/ ota and bacon bits anyway, so........ Still it's nice to know that I can get back to stock should I NEED to.

Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?

fryrice8850 said:
Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?
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These people didnt nand back before messing around with stuff
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(q) DHD OTA update 2.2 to 2.3

Hello there, I have DHD 2.2 stock HTC in with root. My phone is radio s-off and installed custom recovery.
Today I recived OTA update 2.3, I was told that having root phone prevent OTA update. However, I have it now and I don't know if I have to update or not.
Will I lose the root, s-off and custom recovery if I update?
Will I be able to root again and install custom recovery?

Having root prevents you from actually installing the Ota's. Since your stock rooted the phone will still notify you of updates(unless the Dev desables it). So if you would try to install it it would t work and most likely you'll get stuck screen with the exclamation point I believe.
If you want to update you will need to ruu up to 2.3, then you can reroot with gingerbreak. This method will erase everything so make sure to backup
Here's the link to the 2.3 ruu that you run from your computer. Thanks goes to andyharney for the link.
http://www.iloveabath.co.uk/index.php?dir=RUUs/
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Thanx for explanation, but I believes using RUU will return the phone s-on and remove the custom recovery. Is this correct?

The ruu will keep you s-off. It will delete the recovery but after you root using gingerbreak, you can reinstall it through rom manager
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Hi! I might jump into this thread because I have exactly the same situation (except I am not running a custom recovery) but I have a big issue.
The micro usb port on my DHD does not work anymore. I've put off getting it repaired as I have 4 spare batteries and 2 chargers, so I've been able to get by.
Can I still RUU, then Gingerbreak without using the micro usb port?
Cheers!
One other thing - I have the Australian DHD - I did not see a listing for an Australian RUU - Would I need to go find one or could I potentially use a WWE?

What about un-root my 2.2 using visonary then install 2.3 with OTA after that root it with gengerbrake? Is this good plan? Will this remove recovery and s-off?

@RaindancerAU:
Well, RUU needs the USB port. You could try copying a .zip file to the root of your sdcard, then go into Bootloader and update it through there.
(You can get the .zip file from the RUU by opening the RUU.exe file and press 'Next' untill you reach the 'Checking device' - or something like that - part. Then just press - 'Windows key + r' - type %temp% and search the folders for a .zip file called ROM.)
As for you other question. If your phone is branded to a specific carrier, then using the carrier-specific RUU is recommended. If your phone isnt branded, ... , WWE is fine!

What about un-root my 2.2 using visonary then install 2.3 with OTA after that root it with gengerbrake? Is this good plan? Will this remove recovery and s-off?
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Gingerbreak requires S-OFF. By OTA'ing' S-OFF will still remain, but recovery will be replaced with the originnal HTC recovery.
So if you had S-OFF before updating, then Gingerbreak will work, hopefully

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Gingerbreak requires S-OFF. By OTA'ing' S-OFF will still remain, but recovery will be replaced with the originnal HTC recovery.
So if you had S-OFF before updating, then Gingerbreak will work, hopefully
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Thx, I will give a try...
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I have a similar scenario.
my phone came with 2.2 and I used the advanced ace hack kit and it successfully rooted, s-off'ed and have the ace hack kit recovery.
When I checked for updates, I was surprised it did prompt me for the OTA 2.3 update.
I am tempted to install it but I am not sure if it will unroot my phone and remove the recovery and if it does, then how do I get it rooted again and have rom manager recovery?
I am with Three Australia and I was hoping someone else had done this before and would like to share their experience with us.

Since your rooted the Ota's will fail to Install. If you want to stay stock I would just flash a prerooted version.
Personally though you should give custom roms a try and enter the fun

I have used an Ice Cold Sandwich custom rom and I loved it on my old DHD but this new one which I got as a replacement came with Froyo and for some odd reason, the WiFi is not working correctly. It connects but nothing get sent or received. I'm not quite sure if its the aahk that caused or it was an issue since I got it as I don't recall using WiFi on it before running aahk on it.
So I was hoping I could install this ota and check if it gets fixed, otherwise I will take it back to 3 so they can have a look and it would look like I have done nothing to it.
Hope this makes sense.
I'm really worried about applying this ota. I have taken a backup but would I get the chance to restore it if the ota update fail to install as you are saying?
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You could restore, but the Ota's wont install at all. You'll get stuck on the screen with an exclamation point,and you'll need to pull the battery to reboot the phone.
What you could do is flash an ruu/pd98img of the stock rom to check the wifi issue. This way will get rid of root and cwr but its easily reattainable

I would not lose anything if I attempt it and fail? Just pull the battery out and I am back in business?
I will update to the latest ruu (Hutch AUS 3.12.861.2 PD9810000) from htc dev page but this will unroot the phone and remove cwr and put htc recovery. And then you want me to run the OTA update?
Just curious how easy it will be to root it and install cwr after I apply the ruu above.

Saturn007 said:
I would not lose anything if I attempt it and fail? Just pull the battery out and I am back in business?
I will update to the latest ruu (Hutch AUS 3.12.861.2 PD9810000) from htc dev page but this will unroot the phone and remove cwr and put htc recovery. And then you want me to run the OTA update?
Just curious how easy it will be to root it and install cwr after I apply the ruu above.
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First two questions correct. But their is really no point in attempting it unless out pure curiosity to see if fail.
If you flash the ruu, no need to apply the Ota's as the ruu is probably The Ota's its asking you to install.
Because you will still be soff even after the ruu, you could just install cwr via a pd98img. Then install a rom or backup. And even if you were son the hack kit would still be able to root your phone

I was as curious as a cat and you were spot on. It did fail.
The RUU I was referring to was from the htcdev page which is only 5.9MB and it's mainly to update hboot.
What I ended up doing last night was to apply this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843998 and the OTA still failed.
I guess it failed and when I checked, I still had cwr and hence why it failed.
I checked to see if I still had root and it was not. I was able to install superuser and this was all I needed to get root again. I did not think it was this easy.
I then ended up applying IceColdSandwich 4.0.0 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
I am going tonight to apply 4.1.1 which only got released today.
I have a question about pd98img. what things can I install using this method? Can I packages apk files and name the file this and it will auto install when I hboot?

Pd98imgs are used to flash a radio, a recovery, and a bootsplash(image before you see the bootanimation)
You can have zips that install apps for you. Those are flashed in recovery. I know icecoldsandwich has a overlay script to do that aswell when flashing that rom. You would just have to place your apks in the specified folder.(I believe its data/app/apks)

[Q] Need to Unroot

Theres a new OTA of course that includes gingerbread but I need to download 3.7 in order to get to that. That of course means I need to unroot and thats my problem. I cannot get rid of clockwork recovery and have tried all day to. (Havent showered). I have s-on and used unrevoked 3 to root. Please help me get rid of clockwok recovery.

Why not just flash a rooted version of the update there are a few good ones out and once you unroot it will be harder to root after the update.
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If you don't ever want to root again, or if you don't mind waiting awhile, just run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG of the RUU through the bootloader. This will get rid of your recovery.
If you want to stay rooted, don't accept the update. If you can still get into recovery, flash unrevoked forever through recovery. Or just run unrevoked from your computer. Then download a stock rooted rom from here and flash that. Do a nandroid backup before flashing. Accepting the OTA while s-on will leave you without root until someone finds a new root method for the latest update.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

I tried a PC36IMG and they sad they were invalid. I also tried an RUU and all it did was wipe my phone storage.

How can I unroot with no computer and s-on

Recently I tried to unroot my EVO and now nothing is right with my phone anymore. I was running synergy rc1 when I tried to unroot. I searched how to unroot and came up with a file from a ruu which I renamed to pc36img and flashed in the bootloader. What that did was downgrade my baseband to 1.39.00.05.31 and turn s-on. However when my EVO turned on it was still PARTIALLY ROOTED. I can run apps that require root and I was still on Synergy but I have an old radio and s-on.
Now what I want to do is either turn s-off and keep root and my phone the way it is or unroot fully and put my phone to stock. What I've tried so far is flash the unrevoked forever and the latest radio updates, neither of which would flash because of E: errors. Unrevoked wouldn't work because of radio being outdated and radio updates require nand unlocked.
I really just want to unroot but I need help here because I cant get my usb port to work so I can't use the computer. Is there a file I can put on my sdcard to fully unroot, and does anyone have a file like this to provide me with? I don't care if its the latest OTA I just want to unroot. If anyone knows a fix to this it'd be great. Please don't say search or why can't you use the computer I just want people that can help me. Thanks
And if you want to know which pc36img I used its the one located in the thread titled "how can I unroot without computer" in the post where the user says I'll one up you just download this file and rename it to pc36img and flash
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What's your HBoot Version?

I put a link to one in your other thread....
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