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(q) DHD OTA update 2.2 to 2.3

Hello there, I have DHD 2.2 stock HTC in with root. My phone is radio s-off and installed custom recovery.
Today I recived OTA update 2.3, I was told that having root phone prevent OTA update. However, I have it now and I don't know if I have to update or not.
Will I lose the root, s-off and custom recovery if I update?
Will I be able to root again and install custom recovery?

Having root prevents you from actually installing the Ota's. Since your stock rooted the phone will still notify you of updates(unless the Dev desables it). So if you would try to install it it would t work and most likely you'll get stuck screen with the exclamation point I believe.
If you want to update you will need to ruu up to 2.3, then you can reroot with gingerbreak. This method will erase everything so make sure to backup
Here's the link to the 2.3 ruu that you run from your computer. Thanks goes to andyharney for the link.
http://www.iloveabath.co.uk/index.php?dir=RUUs/
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Thanx for explanation, but I believes using RUU will return the phone s-on and remove the custom recovery. Is this correct?

The ruu will keep you s-off. It will delete the recovery but after you root using gingerbreak, you can reinstall it through rom manager
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Hi! I might jump into this thread because I have exactly the same situation (except I am not running a custom recovery) but I have a big issue.
The micro usb port on my DHD does not work anymore. I've put off getting it repaired as I have 4 spare batteries and 2 chargers, so I've been able to get by.
Can I still RUU, then Gingerbreak without using the micro usb port?
Cheers!
One other thing - I have the Australian DHD - I did not see a listing for an Australian RUU - Would I need to go find one or could I potentially use a WWE?

What about un-root my 2.2 using visonary then install 2.3 with OTA after that root it with gengerbrake? Is this good plan? Will this remove recovery and s-off?

@RaindancerAU:
Well, RUU needs the USB port. You could try copying a .zip file to the root of your sdcard, then go into Bootloader and update it through there.
(You can get the .zip file from the RUU by opening the RUU.exe file and press 'Next' untill you reach the 'Checking device' - or something like that - part. Then just press - 'Windows key + r' - type %temp% and search the folders for a .zip file called ROM.)
As for you other question. If your phone is branded to a specific carrier, then using the carrier-specific RUU is recommended. If your phone isnt branded, ... , WWE is fine!

What about un-root my 2.2 using visonary then install 2.3 with OTA after that root it with gengerbrake? Is this good plan? Will this remove recovery and s-off?
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Gingerbreak requires S-OFF. By OTA'ing' S-OFF will still remain, but recovery will be replaced with the originnal HTC recovery.
So if you had S-OFF before updating, then Gingerbreak will work, hopefully

CodeNameUnknown1 said:
Gingerbreak requires S-OFF. By OTA'ing' S-OFF will still remain, but recovery will be replaced with the originnal HTC recovery.
So if you had S-OFF before updating, then Gingerbreak will work, hopefully
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Thx, I will give a try...
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I have a similar scenario.
my phone came with 2.2 and I used the advanced ace hack kit and it successfully rooted, s-off'ed and have the ace hack kit recovery.
When I checked for updates, I was surprised it did prompt me for the OTA 2.3 update.
I am tempted to install it but I am not sure if it will unroot my phone and remove the recovery and if it does, then how do I get it rooted again and have rom manager recovery?
I am with Three Australia and I was hoping someone else had done this before and would like to share their experience with us.

Since your rooted the Ota's will fail to Install. If you want to stay stock I would just flash a prerooted version.
Personally though you should give custom roms a try and enter the fun

I have used an Ice Cold Sandwich custom rom and I loved it on my old DHD but this new one which I got as a replacement came with Froyo and for some odd reason, the WiFi is not working correctly. It connects but nothing get sent or received. I'm not quite sure if its the aahk that caused or it was an issue since I got it as I don't recall using WiFi on it before running aahk on it.
So I was hoping I could install this ota and check if it gets fixed, otherwise I will take it back to 3 so they can have a look and it would look like I have done nothing to it.
Hope this makes sense.
I'm really worried about applying this ota. I have taken a backup but would I get the chance to restore it if the ota update fail to install as you are saying?
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You could restore, but the Ota's wont install at all. You'll get stuck on the screen with an exclamation point,and you'll need to pull the battery to reboot the phone.
What you could do is flash an ruu/pd98img of the stock rom to check the wifi issue. This way will get rid of root and cwr but its easily reattainable

I would not lose anything if I attempt it and fail? Just pull the battery out and I am back in business?
I will update to the latest ruu (Hutch AUS 3.12.861.2 PD9810000) from htc dev page but this will unroot the phone and remove cwr and put htc recovery. And then you want me to run the OTA update?
Just curious how easy it will be to root it and install cwr after I apply the ruu above.

Saturn007 said:
I would not lose anything if I attempt it and fail? Just pull the battery out and I am back in business?
I will update to the latest ruu (Hutch AUS 3.12.861.2 PD9810000) from htc dev page but this will unroot the phone and remove cwr and put htc recovery. And then you want me to run the OTA update?
Just curious how easy it will be to root it and install cwr after I apply the ruu above.
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First two questions correct. But their is really no point in attempting it unless out pure curiosity to see if fail.
If you flash the ruu, no need to apply the Ota's as the ruu is probably The Ota's its asking you to install.
Because you will still be soff even after the ruu, you could just install cwr via a pd98img. Then install a rom or backup. And even if you were son the hack kit would still be able to root your phone

I was as curious as a cat and you were spot on. It did fail.
The RUU I was referring to was from the htcdev page which is only 5.9MB and it's mainly to update hboot.
What I ended up doing last night was to apply this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843998 and the OTA still failed.
I guess it failed and when I checked, I still had cwr and hence why it failed.
I checked to see if I still had root and it was not. I was able to install superuser and this was all I needed to get root again. I did not think it was this easy.
I then ended up applying IceColdSandwich 4.0.0 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
I am going tonight to apply 4.1.1 which only got released today.
I have a question about pd98img. what things can I install using this method? Can I packages apk files and name the file this and it will auto install when I hboot?

Pd98imgs are used to flash a radio, a recovery, and a bootsplash(image before you see the bootanimation)
You can have zips that install apps for you. Those are flashed in recovery. I know icecoldsandwich has a overlay script to do that aswell when flashing that rom. You would just have to place your apks in the specified folder.(I believe its data/app/apks)

[Q] Unrooting EVO

I need to unroot my phone so I can get a few things fixed on it. There is a thread out there talking about if you have used unrevoked forever to root your phone. Is there a difference between using "unrevoked3" or "unrevoked forever"? It is two different links on the unrevoked website. Or are they just considering the unrevoked method as one? Any help will be appreciated, thanks!

Just go to unrevoked.com and you'll find what you are looking for. There links and stuff to help you out. If you used this method before when you rooted.
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Download the s-on zip, flash it in recovery to get s-on before running the ruu.

Ok, I understand that now.
Now for the PC36IMG file. A lot of people are saying that they are getting errors when they flash this, but I have not seen anyone post a link that is working. What is the newest file that should be used in place of this?

unrevoked3 contains unrevoked forever. Just unroot like you would with any other way, place an s-on zip and a stock rom pc36img on the root of the sd card. Boot into recovery, flash s-on zip, then flash the pc36img stock rom.

So on this website of ruu's, which one is the right one/best to use?
http://goo-inside.me/supersonic/ruu

If you're just getting it fixed, I'd leave s-off so you can get root access back when you get your phone back.
They should still service your phone as long you have stock software. They may do an OTA, but when you get your phone back just flash a recovery then restore a nandroid backup (make one before you unroot).
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I thought you could root again after you unroot (well most of the time). So you're basically saying don't flash the S-On, just flash the PC36IMG. That will set me back to a stock rom with root capabilities?
The only issue i'm having is a charging issue. Not sure if it is the port or the battery. But I know if I can't get it to charge again (and can't get back to stock) I'll be screwed with the warranty.

irl5fan said:
I thought you could root again after you unroot (well most of the time). So you're basically saying don't flash the S-On, just flash the PC36IMG. That will set me back to a stock rom with root capabilities?
The only issue i'm having is a charging issue. Not sure if it is the port or the battery. But I know if I can't get it to charge again (and can't get back to stock) I'll be screwed with the warranty.
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You won't be able to root again if you have s-on and the Gingerbread update. If you leave s-off then you'll be able to flash a PC36IMG of a recovery and be back in business. Even if you don't update to Gingerbread OTA, the Sprint store probably will.
If it's your charging port then they'll have to replace your phone... in which case you'll most likely get a replacement that can't be rooted. If you do get a replacement with 2.3, still check the bootloader to see if it's s-off. A few people have gotten refurbs that were never put back to s-on.
Just flash the PC36IMG of an RUU - the 3.70 one should be fine. If absolutely necessary, you can charge your battery in an external wall charger. I have multiple batteries and use one to charge my extras. I'm not sure if you can get one in stores, I got mine online.
Edit: leaving s-off and flashing an RUU doesn't mean you'll have root access - ie Superuser, root apps, etc - but you will be able to flash a rooted rom later or restore a nandroid backup of your current rooted setup.
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How do I un-root?

I'm trying to unroot my friends EVO. We rooted it back in the day with UNREVOKED. It was the one-click method.
I've searched for guides but can't find any. PLease help.
Again, I am talking about the old Undevoked rooting method we used, not Revolutionary.
How do i unroot?

Flash the unrevoked s-on tool in recovery. Then run an ruu or flash a PC36IMG RUU that matches the version of your bootloader, most likely 3.70.

Go to unrevoked website and dl the s-on file to flash. Ur radio must be no higher than version 2.00.11.19 so u must downgrade that b4 u flash s-on patch. Then just ruu or flash stock pc36img
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4.54.651.1
I am trying to unroot my brother's phone that has 4.54.651.1 on it. Could someone please point me to the right RUU please?
P.S. He was trying to do it himself and he ran the unrevoked file to turn S-ON and he has Radio 2.15.00.11.19 on. What can I do?

Aloupha said:
I am trying to unroot my brother's phone that has 4.54.651.1 on it. Could someone please point me to the right RUU please?
P.S. He was trying to do it himself and he ran the unrevoked file to turn S-ON and he has Radio 2.15.00.11.19 on. What can I do?
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If you have s-on, then just run a stock ruu.

sitlet said:
If you have s-on, then just run a stock ruu.
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I tried that but it fails every time.I get the "ERROR[140]: BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR / The ROM Update Unity cannot update your Android phone. Please get the correct ROM Update Utility and try again.
When I try to do it through the bootloader I do not get to the "update" option. It just fails.

I downloaded this RUU and it went through successfully
RUU_SuperSonic_GB_Sprint_WWE_4.53.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.0808_NV_2.15_release_209995_signed.exe

I have a problem. The USB port is fried. I cannot use it. How can I then flash a stock Rom? I can download something to the phone and flash it , but will I still have recovery after flashing s-on from unrevoked?
Also what Rom can I flash? It must be zip format.

Where did you get the download from Aloupha?
*Edit* Never mind found it. Trying to unroot now.
Another question. I flashed backed to my original backup and the phone looks stock. Do you guys think I could get my camera lense replaced through sprint without doing a full unroot? Phone looks as stock as they come...

AvatarOfFrost said:
I have a problem. The USB port is fried. I cannot use it. How can I then flash a stock Rom? I can download something to the phone and flash it , but will I still have recovery after flashing s-on from unrevoked?
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Take the card out, put into a card reader, and put the files you need onto the card, then put it back in the phone.
Also what Rom can I flash?
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Well if you are trying to unroot, you would flash a stock rom.

sitlet said:
Take the card out, put into a card reader, and put the files you need onto the card, then put it back in the phone.
Well if you are trying to unroot, you would flash a stock rom.
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Do I still have recovery after flashing unrevoked s-on?

AvatarOfFrost said:
Do I still have recovery after flashing unrevoked s-on?
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Running an ruu will replace the recovery with the stock one.

sitlet said:
Running an ruu will replace the recovery with the stock one.
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Which, by the way is no recovery.

Well I took my phone into sprint with just a stock rom flash and my phone was repaired without question. Although the rep stated that they don't repair physical damage...smh. I declined to tell him that Sprint has repaired many of my phones of my 10 YEAR tenure.

Unroot Evo 4G with hboot 2.18 and s-on

Hi everyone, ive been tryin to find a way to unroot my evo so i can take it into sprint. Im currently running MIUI 2.7.6, hboot version 2.18, unlocked. Would really like to put everything back to normal or as close to it as possible. Any help would be great!
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younginferlife said:
Hi everyone, ive been tryin to find a way to unroot my evo so i can take it into sprint. Im currently running MIUI 2.7.6, hboot version 2.18, unlocked. Would really like to put everything back to normal or as close to it as possible. Any help would be great!
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http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...gerbread-2-3-5-dummies-guide.html#post3847623
See the "Unrooting" section.

I was just looking at that method but was unsure if it woild work. I forgot to mention in the beginning of this, that i have tried to use 3 different pc36img files and everytime it said error, main is newer or somethimg like that. But thanks, i will give that method a shot right now and let ya kno how it goes
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younginferlife said:
I was just looking at that method but was unsure if it woild work. I forgot to mention in the beginning of this, that i have tried to use 3 different pc36img files and everytime it said error, main is newer or somethimg like that. But thanks, i will give that method a shot right now and let ya kno how it goes
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Well the first thing you have to do in the unrooting procedure is downgrade the misc partition so you don't get that message . It's all outlined there nicely, and if you have any questions, it might be easier for you to post over there - they're all very helpful .

Captain_Throwback said:
Well the first thing you have to do in the unrooting procedure is downgrade the misc partition so you don't get that message . It's all outlined there nicely, and if you have any questions, it might be easier for you to post over there - they're all very helpful .
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Thanks again for the help. Everything went good with achieving the "locked oow" but the only problem im presenting is being able to flash the pc36img file due to the fact that i have to press up in order to update. My volume up button is broken (second time with in a month) which is why im taking my phone into sprint. Im downloading and RUU from rootzwiki to see if im able to flash back to the stock unrooted rom from there or by recovery. Thanks again.

younginferlife said:
Thanks again for the help. Everything went good with achieving the "locked oow" but the only problem im presenting is being able to flash the pc36img file due to the fact that i have to press up in order to update. My volume up button is broken (second time with in a month) which is why im taking my phone into sprint. Im downloading and RUU from rootzwiki to see if im able to flash back to the stock unrooted rom from there or by recovery. Thanks again.
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If you do an "adb reboot bootloader", and then run the RUU from your PC, you shouldn't have to press any buttons on the device.

Captain_Throwback said:
If you do an "adb reboot bootloader", and then run the RUU from your PC, you shouldn't have to press any buttons on the device.
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call me a pain or even a noob (cause i am), but i have been trying to run the ruu from pc but seem to be having issues. would you mind posting the proper commands to run?:good::silly:

younginferlife said:
call me a pain or even a noob (cause i am), but i have been trying to run the ruu from pc but seem to be having issues. would you mind posting the proper commands to run?:good::silly:
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There are no commands to run an RUU from the PC - you just double-click it.

Thats where my problem was, the "RUU" I downloaded from the first thread you mentioned was in .zip format not .exe but all is good now, fully unrooted and back to original crappy malfunctioning 2.3.5 :thumbdown: thanks again for your help and puttin up with my noobness :thumbup:
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hey guys i had to unroot my evo with the unrooting method mentioned above, but i messed up and flashed the s-on and flashed an RUU b4 downgrading the misc partition. The phone also installed the 5.07 OTA with the stock recovery. The phone says it has "s-on" but the hboot is 6.17 and i cannot get it to update back to 2.18, everytime i try to RUU again, i get a error 140 saying bootloader version error. I tried to root again using revolutionary and i get told that the s is already off and get asked to install a custom recovery and that fails every time. i tried to install amon ra via pc36img method in bootloader and it does nothing. i tried using unrevoked since my phone says its hboot 2.16 and unrevoked fails and says my firmware is too new. I tried using htc dev to achieve root again and the cmd gives me an error every time i try to get the code from my phone. i made a booboo and i cant root nor update and i gotta return my phone to sprint since i upgraded my phone to a diff phone. Any ideas guys?

Synergies14 said:
hey guys i had to unroot my evo with the unrooting method mentioned above, but i messed up and flashed the s-on and flashed an RUU b4 downgrading the misc partition. The phone also installed the 5.07 OTA with the stock recovery. The phone says it has "s-on" but the hboot is 6.17 and i cannot get it to update back to 2.18, everytime i try to RUU again, i get a error 140 saying bootloader version error. I tried to root again using revolutionary and i get told that the s is already off and get asked to install a custom recovery and that fails every time. i tried to install amon ra via pc36img method in bootloader and it does nothing. i tried using unrevoked since my phone says its hboot 2.16 and unrevoked fails and says my firmware is too new. I tried using htc dev to achieve root again and the cmd gives me an error every time i try to get the code from my phone. i made a booboo and i cant root nor update and i gotta return my phone to sprint since i upgraded my phone to a diff phone. Any ideas guys?
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WHAT?? I'm lost. First you said your Hboot is 6.17, then you said your phone says it has Hboot 2.16.
Sounds like your misc partition is screwed up from the different Hboots that your phone had, especially from the 5.07 OTA. If that's the case, there is no current RUU that will work for that (the 5.07 misc). It's there to prevent you from downgrading. You will need the Tacoroot method in order to downgrade your misc partition so that you can run your RUU again. It will give you a temp root so that you can run adb commands to downgrade that misc partition. It's in the rooting method guide from Captain Throwback's link above.

shortydoggg said:
WHAT?? I'm lost. First you said your Hboot is 6.17, then you said your phone says it has Hboot 2.16.
Sounds like your misc partition is screwed up from the different Hboots that your phone had, especially from the 5.07 OTA. If that's the case, there is no current RUU that will work for that (the 5.07 misc). It's there to prevent you from downgrading. You will need the Tacoroot method in order to downgrade your misc partition so that you can run your RUU again. It will give you a temp root so that you can run adb commands to downgrade that misc partition. It's in the rooting method guide from Captain Throwback's link above.
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My apologies, i was in a rush earlier. My hboot is 6.17, not 2.16. I tried unrooting and did for the most part except getting hboot back to 2.18. In this process, the phone forced itself to update to the new 5.07 OTA that there is no RUU for so im screwed to that end. I am currently trying Tacoroot method but am having issues being stuck at the sprint screen bootloop so i cant run the flash_image command from the sdcard (since the phone isnt starting fully for it to be in "charge only mode"). Seems alot of ppl have that same issue but havent found a solution yet. Not sure if i just start over if it bootloops or not. I've tried 3 complete times now and still get stuck on the bootloop.

Ouch, that sucks. If you cannot boot into the operating system, then there might not be anything that you can do.

shortydoggg said:
Ouch, that sucks. If you cannot boot into the operating system, then there might not be anything that you can do.
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i can boot into the phone, its just when doing the tacoroot method, i cannot get past the step where the phone goes into the loop and you have to enter 3 commands.

Synergies14 said:
i can boot into the phone, its just when doing the tacoroot method, i cannot get past the step where the phone goes into the loop and you have to enter 3 commands.
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The looping doesn't matter - you should still have adb access, unless you didn't follow the instructions exactly.

2 steps.. rooted/s-off to perfect stock sprint evo 4g unrooted/s-on
younginferlife said:
Hi everyone, ive been tryin to find a way to unroot my evo so i can take it into sprint. Im currently running MIUI 2.7.6, hboot version 2.18, unlocked. Would really like to put everything back to normal or as close to it as possible. Any help would be great!
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i just stumbled over this method.. unrevoked web site has a s-on tool, go to there site ://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever you will see the blah blah blah tutorial.. scroll down until you get down to:
How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update.. download it to your phone.. recovery mode.. flash from zip.. poof.. S-ON
now head over to htcevohacks, ://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g/ get htc update rom utility for your phone.. that erases entire phone and and places sprints latest stock factory rom and everything back on your phone.. do all sprint updates.. and return to sprint and recieve your refurbished motorola photon.. sprint htc evo 4g has been dissed-continued.. oh yeah if you dont do it in that order.. you will loose your root with update utility.. which means you will have to use unrevoked3 to reroot and flash s-on tool .. done the right way its only two steps.. peace out

Unrooting Problems

HI,
I got my phone rooted and now I realized that I really don't want it anymore. My bootloader is unlocked and I have s-on (Not sure what the difference is because I have seen images with it on) but no s-off. I really want to get my bootloader locked and revert back to original stock rom. I have a stock ROM but for some reason every time I try to revert it back to stock ROM it can't read the .zip file. When I would format the system by factory it would still have root access. When I attempt to install it by recovery it says it invalid. I don't know if it is because I have s-on. Please Help

Run any of the RUU's with your phone connected to the computer
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CNexus said:
Run any of the RUU's with your phone connected to the computer
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YES AND NO.
The Evo will not let you run any Ruu that downgrades it when you are S-ON. You need one that either supports the latest Htc update on your phone or later. If you previously had the latest update (5.07), then you will need to follow this guide because there is no RUU for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108292
Then you should be able to run any RUU in place of the PC36IMG.zip file from that tutorial.
AND WHY DO YOU NOT WANT ROOT?
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