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[Q] unrevoked vs basic rooting

Okay, so I rooted my phone before 2.2. I'm going to try and root my friend's phone as well, but he's using 2.2 Android. Is the steps still the same? There's the unrevoked method. Is that the same as rooting and NAND unlocking? Will I have unrevoke and then do the rooting process?

Unrevoked is a one click full root and nand unlock. The one thing it does not give you that regular root does is engineering hboot .76, which is semi necessary. So run unrevoked 3.2.1 and flash the hboot that can be found in one of the first few pages of the dev section and it's like you just put in hours of work in 10 minutes. Btw, you can't root 2.2 the same as 2.1. Its much harder. That's why people use unrevoked.
Dk

Question on this. I rooted with the unrevoked method with 2.2 and when i type in cd /data/app-private into the terminal emulator on the phone i get nothing. Then when i try to verify nand in recovery nothing happens. I downloaded unrevoked3 and that's it no pc36img or anything. Did i miss a step? I'm on a Mac and i have 2.2. I
Can tether and use rom manager, titanium backup, root manger, and superuser permissions. But Im afraid to attempt a flash. Can anyone help?
Sent from my Evo 4g from inside my Evo X.

Unrevoked requires no setup on a Mac. U did it right. To verify nand, boot into boot loader and make sure it says s-off on the top line far right. That means you have system access. Now you need engineering .76 boot loader. Will post link if you cant find it.
Also, the command cd never gives you any output. Try flashing a splash screen to prove you have NAND (and to impress your friend) i will give you instructions if you ask nicely... Ha
Dk

I need engineering link. Whats splash screen? How do i do that?
Sent from my Evo 4g from inside my Evo X.

It does say s-off btw. Thx for quick response
Sent from my Evo 4g from inside my Evo X.

Short posts... g/f mad up so late. Not trying to be rude. Trying stealth like ninja. Plz help.
Sent from my Evo 4g from inside my Evo X.

thanks for the replies. so the steps are to:
+ unrevoked 3
+ unrevoked forever
+ flash .76 bootloader
+ flash rom
where in these steps can I do a nand backup?
sent via HTC EVO

^before you flash the rom from what i've learned. You want to perform all backups/nand backup before you flash roms because you need to do a complete wipe of the phone... cache, dalvik cache, and data... theres a specific wipe order i read either on here or AC. nandroid backup is supposed to be in the recovery menu. i can't access it because i haven't installed unrevoked forever and .76 bootloader. unrooting unrevoked and using a different method... :/

yeah most likely. Guess I'm going to have to install Amon RA recovery before I flash though.

Unrevoked to get newer clockworkmod?

Propibly a stupid question but i rooted my phone a while back and it is still s-on and i'm not sure if i'm going to s-off so i was wondering is it safe to use unrevoked again on my phone with out wiping data and cache and by that way flash cwm 3.0.0.5?
Oo and sorry for my english hope you understand what i'm trying to ask

You can't root an already rooted phone, doesn't work and can mess everything up so you have to start again, unless you go S-Off ofc.

I thought so
So i think i have to go s-off atleast to get the newest cwm.
But i don't know much about s-off and what i get from doing it so it's a bit scary

Try Rom-manager from the Market!
With it you can update, very easy now stress no need for s-off

But it is a temporary fake-flash - next time you reboot, you get the previous version.
For permanent update either S-OFF....
or some people said they succeeded with using the same version of unrEVOked for flashing the update, as the version they used for rooting. Just select a custom image.

Yes use unrevoked to flash it. No problem. Nandroid just in case.

runarorn said:
I don't know much about s-off and what i get from doing it so it's a bit scary
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If you want to know more about S-Off just look here. Just read everything carefully, when you have understood you can do it.
From doing it you will get several things. Of course you will be able to flash the recovery you want directly with fastboot. You will also be able to flash another radio or another hboot. In particular you could be interested in changing hboot if you want a different partition layout, everything is explained in the link above.

Lennyz1988 said:
Yes use unrevoked to flash it. No problem. Nandroid just in case.
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But if it messes up i might not get into recovery and i need to ruu it right? And does a nandroid take backup of recovery?
And thanks Ed Roid i will look into that

[Q] HTC wildfire S-off next steps

Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance

teo.boev said:
Hi guys,
Sorry for the stupid question but I am new to those kind of things and get a bit confused.
I managed to get my HTC Wildfire S-OFF'd
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-1.01.0002
MICROP-0622
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-3.35.20.10
Dec 27 2010,17:49:10
Can I downgrade this in order to get it rooted and If I can, could you please give me directions how to achieve that.
Thanks in advance
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You need to flash a recovery(search the development thread for clockworkmod recovery)
Flash this recovery via fastboot(search the whole forum for a guide)
And then flash a ROM(or other things) of your choice via the recovery menu.
Hope this helps

Personally, I downgraded by flashing a stock 2.1 RUU, then used unrevoked 3.2 to root it and install clockworkmod.
Then just flashed a cyanogen nightly (#57). Although you can choose whatever rom you want.

I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?

teo.boev said:
I have tried with unrevoked 3 to root the phone, but at some point i got the following message:
Validation error: Backup CID is missing
any idea how to fix that?
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Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8

3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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U can also use this i used this to root my Wildfire , just now
Code:
http://www.multiupload.com/K6RAGILSS3

When i flash unrevoked 2.2 after s-off and downgrade to 2.1 is had the same problem. I don't know why but unrevoked 3.14 worked fine. For me newer is not always better.
3xeno said:
Ref here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8926494&postcount=8
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once S-OFF, downgrading and then rooting is a lengthier process. As already stated in the post #2, after S-OFF just flash a recovery from the fast boot menu and thats all ur phone is rooted.
get the PC49IMG.ZIP file and the process from here. (most painless and secure algorithm)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12188132&postcount=15

how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?

mysql2779 said:
how u S-OFF ur phone ? by using XTC clip ?
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Yes, only known way till now.

And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

lumina_1 said:
And where I get the XTC-clip?
My HBOOT 1.01.0002 with S-ON, I just want rooted my device...
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
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Buy it.
Also learn to search.

Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?

clon12 said:
Alright. I think I'm gonna get my device S-OFF soon...
So all I have to do is
1. Flash to 2.1 RUU
2. Flash a recovery via fastboot
3. Flash a new ROM
That is all right?
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If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.

3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM

almightybunghole said:
I've been reading alot about this but I don't geddit. Everyone says that with hboot 1.01.0002 you can't get s-off without using the xtc clip. Are you saying you just downgraded to Android 2.1 then flashed a custom ROM
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What you have heard is false. HBoot 1.01x requires XTC Clip to get S-OFF, and, only then can it be downgraded and rooted.

Rooted ROM
3xeno said:
If you are going for Step 2, there is no need for Step 1. Just flash a recovery via Fastboot, and you are good to go with Custom ROMs, even on the updated HBoot.
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If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?

Zavel said:
If i used XTC clip to S-OFF a wildfire, is it then possible to restore a rooted ROM? Or do i need to root the phone, then when i load any ROM it is rooted, because root is at a lower level?
Is root access something which is stored in the operating system or some lower level?
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Root is given by the app called Superuser. Just as in linux, every program that wants to do something that needs root rights, has to ask for it. In android that permission is "tunneld" by the superuser, which asks you if you want to grant an app root access, and then gives it to that app with your permission. But of course, the only way that superuser can grant root access, is when it is propperly installed, and has some files in the /system folder. Which is not possible without root permissions
So: if you are s-off, you can flash a recovery image trough fastboot (working with unrevoked gives you the custom recovery right away) by the adb command "flastboot flash recovery " (google for "cyanogenmod wiki flastboot" if you are planning it, it is really nice explaned). Trough that recovery you can apply some kind of an "update.zip", which installes the right superuserfiles on your system anx changes nothing else. Notice me if you want those files, I know where to find them here on xda.
From that moment on, when an app asks for root permission, you get a popup from the superuser app to ask if you really want to grant that app such permissions or not: if yes, the app has root access now!
This is all based on my experience with the stock ROM, don't know how the process works in CM or wildpuzzle.
Erwin
Edit: and if you want to delete or modify rom specific things (like htc stock app), you can connect your phone to your computer, mount your system as read/write by the command "adb remount" and then delete it trough adb commands. No need to go trough recovery for this.
Perhaps the same is possible if you have a file manager that can handle rooted phones, but not sure about that.

S-off with currently rooted and cm7

Hi all firstly I just wanna say thanks so everyone that develops and creates amazing stuff for our phones on this site. Right to on to my question, I got my HTC desire a couple months ago, rooted it basically as I got it, with unrevoked, however, I'm still busy considering going s-off and I have a big question, I currently am running cm7 nightly, and clockworkmod 2.5.0.7, which got flashed during the unrevoked process, so my question is, is it safe to s-off with this? Or should I run an ruu first, and if it is safe, should I let alpharev install its custom recovery or not?
I did look around the forums, and couldn't find anything directly related to this, so any help is greatly appreciated
Thanks so much
Not sent from an IPhone of any sort

I had such a mission trying to S-OFF - eventually, after asking around, I realized that the most common problems when trying to S-OFF come from two things:
A) S-OFF when a Gingerbread ROM is installed.
B) S-OFF in a rom that uses Apps2SD or Data2SD.
Eventually, I just downloaded a 2.2 RRU that had Root and S-OFF'd from that. Worked like an absolute charm. Don't worry, once you're S-OFF you can then flash a Gingerbread, Apps2SD ROM - but prior to this, rather use a stock, 2.2 rooted ROM. Unfortunately I can't remember where I downloaded it from, but it was from XDA. The filename was Bravo_WWE_2.29.405.5_v5.zip
Don't forget to familiarize yourself with Android SDK and Fastboot. Cyanogen have a fantastic Wiki on it: *can't get the full link, Internet is being lame. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/ and search for Fastboot.*
edit: Found the link in my Download History - http://www.multiupload.com/SAEPLNMOG7

ok thanks, quick thing, RUU's erase your current recovery right?
and with that, did you let alpharev install its custom recovery?
Thanks so much

Uhm, good question. I never really had the opportunity to tell. I told AlphaRev to install CWM-AlphaRev recovery, and there's no where between starting the S-OFF process and it being done and dusted to tell if the recovery layer is removed.
To elaborate:
ClockWorkMod, flash RRU.
Boot into RRU, start S-OFF.
S-OFF completes, CWM-AlphaRev is installed as recovery.
No where to tell if ClockWorkMod was removed

Ok so you just flashed your stock Rom from recovery and went from there? You didn't go through the whole pc ruu/fastboot process? Sorry for all the questions
Not sent from an IPhone of any sort

Yup - ClockWorkMod, Full Wipe, install ZIP from SDCard, Bravo_WWE_2.29.405.5_v5.zip, Reboot phone in ROM, enable USB debugging, start the S-OFF Process.
I did need to use fastboot to flash AplhaRev Oxygen once S-OFF, as that's the partition sizes I wanted.

Ok thanks so much
Not sent from an IPhone of any sort

[Q] unrevoked unrooted my desire

Hi there,
A year ago or so i got a desire, rooted it with unrevoked (amazing app, thanks to the developers), flashed clockworkmod 2.0.5.X (can't remember) and leedroid's 2.5.0 (after playing around with some others). However, a few months ago it started freezing without reason. Supposedly, a reformat of the sd card would fix that. Therefore, I backed up, installed latest Clockworkmod (5.0.2, with rom manager RM) and used RM to format the sd resulting in an error. When I booted in recovery I realized I already have S-ON and clockworkmod 2.0.5 (altough RM keep saying me i have 5.0.2). After that I used unrevoked 3.32 in an attempt to fix all that mess. However, the only thing I got was to have an unrooted desire!!!
My actual config is:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.80.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.08
Mar 29 2010, 21:34:33
I have tried using unrevoked again but nothing. Alphrev to raise the hboot version but my phone is actually unrooted. I don't know what to do, any help please!?!
Thanks in advance and apologies for the long speech

Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...

Hi bortak, thanks for the quick response!!
I'm really kinda newbie in these things. Yeah, i have a custom rom and yes, I was rooted. However, I do really think I am unrooted because titanium backup (through superuser app that comes with leedroid's rom) says at startup that I'm not rooted. Is there any other way to know for sure?
As you suggest, I thought on alpharev to s-off an then flash an updated recovery+rom. But I can't if unrooted (I don't know if that matters but my hboot is 0.80).
Is the goldcard+WWE RUU+revolutionary safe in my case?
Thanks a lot!

bortak said:
Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...
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bortak I've read in your guide (amazing, thanks in the name of humankind ) and found that revolutionary only supports hboots 0.93.0001 and 1.02.0001 but mine is 0.80.0000.
Visionary is useful in case of not having a recovery, but I have clockworkmod 2.0.5. Is there any way to root my desire again so I can use alpharev to get s-off?
With s-off I could install an updated CWM so I can format the sd or install an stock RUU to get the phone to service center, am I right?
Thanks!!!

Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio

shuprio said:
Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio
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Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!

coriscow said:
Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!
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Yes Coriscow. It is the RUU. Best of luck! Hope everything will be fine.
Thanks-
Shuprio

Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

rootSU said:
Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
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rootSU that's it, thanks!
My main concern was that the phone was (seemed to be) unrooted and unrevoked could not change that. However wiping the data through the recovery did it
Now I will try to fix all the other thins like flashing a RUU to update the HBOOT. If so use revolutionary
Thanks you all, i'll keep you posted as I do thing

I did it!!! At this point I'm S-OFF (I never was), updated hboot, rooted (I already was but, as rootsu said, unrevoked messed something up), fresh leedriod install and the problem about the phone freezeing randomly seems to have disappeared after a full sd and sdext format. Thank you all for the help, the guides, and so and so