Hi all firstly I just wanna say thanks so everyone that develops and creates amazing stuff for our phones on this site. Right to on to my question, I got my HTC desire a couple months ago, rooted it basically as I got it, with unrevoked, however, I'm still busy considering going s-off and I have a big question, I currently am running cm7 nightly, and clockworkmod 2.5.0.7, which got flashed during the unrevoked process, so my question is, is it safe to s-off with this? Or should I run an ruu first, and if it is safe, should I let alpharev install its custom recovery or not?
I did look around the forums, and couldn't find anything directly related to this, so any help is greatly appreciated
Thanks so much
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I had such a mission trying to S-OFF - eventually, after asking around, I realized that the most common problems when trying to S-OFF come from two things:
A) S-OFF when a Gingerbread ROM is installed.
B) S-OFF in a rom that uses Apps2SD or Data2SD.
Eventually, I just downloaded a 2.2 RRU that had Root and S-OFF'd from that. Worked like an absolute charm. Don't worry, once you're S-OFF you can then flash a Gingerbread, Apps2SD ROM - but prior to this, rather use a stock, 2.2 rooted ROM. Unfortunately I can't remember where I downloaded it from, but it was from XDA. The filename was Bravo_WWE_2.29.405.5_v5.zip
Don't forget to familiarize yourself with Android SDK and Fastboot. Cyanogen have a fantastic Wiki on it: *can't get the full link, Internet is being lame. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/ and search for Fastboot.*
edit: Found the link in my Download History - http://www.multiupload.com/SAEPLNMOG7
ok thanks, quick thing, RUU's erase your current recovery right?
and with that, did you let alpharev install its custom recovery?
Thanks so much
Uhm, good question. I never really had the opportunity to tell. I told AlphaRev to install CWM-AlphaRev recovery, and there's no where between starting the S-OFF process and it being done and dusted to tell if the recovery layer is removed.
To elaborate:
ClockWorkMod, flash RRU.
Boot into RRU, start S-OFF.
S-OFF completes, CWM-AlphaRev is installed as recovery.
No where to tell if ClockWorkMod was removed
Ok so you just flashed your stock Rom from recovery and went from there? You didn't go through the whole pc ruu/fastboot process? Sorry for all the questions
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Yup - ClockWorkMod, Full Wipe, install ZIP from SDCard, Bravo_WWE_2.29.405.5_v5.zip, Reboot phone in ROM, enable USB debugging, start the S-OFF Process.
I did need to use fastboot to flash AplhaRev Oxygen once S-OFF, as that's the partition sizes I wanted.
Ok thanks so much
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Hello everyone, I'm a newbie here, so go easy on me, OK?
Well, I have (generic) stock HTC 2.2 (2.29.405.5) Desire (GSM), bravo ptv1 ship s-on, hboot - 0.93.0001, radio 5.11.05.27. I rooted it using unrEVOked latest issue on Linux Ubuntu. Rooting went perfectly good, I gained root access and Clockwork recovery.
My question is: how to replace Clockwork recovery with Amon Ra? Wich way is the quickiest and least painful for an average user?
Than you all in advance, cheers!
well, you either must unroot, then while rooting again choose amonra recovery in unrevoked or go S-OFF and flash new recovery image through fastboot
Thanks, I just tried flashing it thru Terminal Emulator, but it gave me error "flash_image: not found", so I guess it has something do to with root access. NMV.
How do I choose Amon Ra recovery for unrEVOked, it only gave me Clockwork? Remember, I'm under Ubuntu, so I can't pick recovery in unrEVOked UI.
no idea how to do that in linux, consider going S-OFF ?
i used CD method, was as easy as rooting, one thing required - a rom without A2SD+ or DATA2xxx
dzumagos said:
no idea how to do that in linux, consider going S-OFF ?
i used CD method, was as easy as rooting, one thing required - a rom without A2SD+ or DATA2xxx
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Seconded, s-off by live CD comparable to rooting, and after s-off you can also resize your partition tables and delete unneeded apps whilst booted via Ti backup or root explorer.
Well worth the time!
S-OFF is driving me nuts
How are my chances to make a wll worthy paper holder out of phone? And, do I still need to mess with adb after s-off in order to restore funcionality to rom?
voolandis said:
S-OFF is driving me nuts
How are my chances to make a wll worthy paper holder out of phone? And, do I still need to mess with adb after s-off in order to restore funcionality to rom?
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There are several detailed threads about s-off, ok small chance of bricking phone, but really tiny as long as you follow instructions and take your time. Same as rooting!
Read some threads and go through the information at alpharev site carefully:
http://alpharev.nl/
After doing it just restore the nandroid you made before starting...
Hi, running wildfire (buzz), froyo 2.2.1 hboot x....0002.
I have tried following the big messy sticky guide in general forum. I think I have AlphaRev and CWM installed. The HBOOT shows 6.01.0002, S-OFF and I get CMW when I go to recovery. But when I try to test if I have root when I boot into htc sense the test app says no. No superuser or root. Am I missing something? Every single guide I have found here says alpharevx or revoked should give root..
The guide says to RUU from 2.2.1 to 2.1. Is this necessary when I want to install a custom rom?
Any and all help much appreciated.
Unrevoked will root the phone along with installing custom recovery by a nand exploit.
But alpharevx neither roots the phone nor installs custom recovery. It turns off the nand security to make rooting (+ installing custom recovery) easier. So if you made s-off with alpharevx, then you need to root and install custom recovery on your own (which are very easy)..
And you dont need to downgrade with an RUU. Just go with this link..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15226717&postcount=68 .
Also check the complete wildfire index thread from dev section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318 .
Edit: oh.. didn't get you clearly. Looks like you have custom recovery installed. Anyway, you can check the above link for rooting. And to install custom roms, you just need cwm recovery installed. Downgrade from 2.2.1 to 2.1 (using RUU) is not necessary in any case. And to root your stock rom just use superone click root method or gingerbreak.apk or you can also install Su binary (= rooting) from cwm recovery. And you dont need to root a custom Rom because custom roms will be already rooted. Another thing you need to remember is some roms need cwm version 2.x while others need cwm version 3.x or above. You need to shift between recoveries according to that need . On how to do that, check the index thread.
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Flash Superuser Binary in Clockworkmod. There's absolutely no need to use any RUU / Unrevoked if you have got Clockworkmod Installed.
Download SU Binary here:
http://bit.ly/su2361ef
Flash, and check for root again. This will give you a rooted Stock ROM.
Alternatively, if you just want to change ROMs , you dont need to be "rooted". Just a Custom Recovery like Clockworkmod will do. So, if that's your ultimate goal, just flash the new ROM. Again, dont touch RUUs/Unrevoked.
Thank you, both for clearing that up. I must say the sticky post is way way over complicated and dead wrong on the process. Since it's a sticky it needs to get cleaned up by someone who knows about it.
It's not a sticky actually. (I assume you are referring to this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145035)
I posted my views there but everyone seems happy with that, so whatever suits the individual I guess.
I have posted an overview of the process here (This is a sticky thread, so I kinda hope you are not referring to this one ):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
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micnolmad said:
Hi, running wildfire (buzz), froyo 2.2.1 hboot x....0002.
I have tried following the big messy sticky guide in general forum. I think I have AlphaRev and CWM installed. The HBOOT shows 6.01.0002, S-OFF and I get CMW when I go to recovery. But when I try to test if I have root when I boot into htc sense the test app says no. No superuser or root. Am I missing something? Every single guide I have found here says alpharevx or revoked should give root..
The guide says to RUU from 2.2.1 to 2.1. Is this necessary when I want to install a custom rom?
Any and all help much appreciated.
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Hi, I have the same problem as micnolmad.
I'm running wildfire:
BUZZ PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.01.1002
I used AlphaRev to get S-OFF, and change from HBOOT 1.01.0002.
I thought it was meant to convert HBOOT to 1.01.0001, but for some reason it's now 6.01.1002. Not sure if this is important? At least the phone's now S-OFF, which should enable rooting?
However, booting into HTC sense, rom manager syays I do not have root!
I have clockwork 3.0.0.6 but when I use it to install cyanogen 7.0.3, the installation says successful, and then freezes on start up.
Any ideas?
Did you perform all the wipes in clockwork (Data,cache,Dalvik Cache) before flashing your new rom, these are important and cause problems if not done!!
Also read this thread, the posts above mention flashing su binary to get root.
Scratch0805 said:
Did you perform all the wipes in clockwork (Data,cache,Dalvik Cache) before flashing your new rom, these are important and cause problems if not done!!
Also read this thread, the posts above mention flashing su binary to get root.
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Hi, I wiped Data, cache, Dalvik Cache, and have superuser and CWM v4.0.14 installed. On flashing cyanogen mod 7 ROM it installs successfully, but freezes on bootup?
????????
Hi there,
A year ago or so i got a desire, rooted it with unrevoked (amazing app, thanks to the developers), flashed clockworkmod 2.0.5.X (can't remember) and leedroid's 2.5.0 (after playing around with some others). However, a few months ago it started freezing without reason. Supposedly, a reformat of the sd card would fix that. Therefore, I backed up, installed latest Clockworkmod (5.0.2, with rom manager RM) and used RM to format the sd resulting in an error. When I booted in recovery I realized I already have S-ON and clockworkmod 2.0.5 (altough RM keep saying me i have 5.0.2). After that I used unrevoked 3.32 in an attempt to fix all that mess. However, the only thing I got was to have an unrooted desire!!!
My actual config is:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.80.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.08
Mar 29 2010, 21:34:33
I have tried using unrevoked again but nothing. Alphrev to raise the hboot version but my phone is actually unrooted. I don't know what to do, any help please!?!
Thanks in advance and apologies for the long speech
Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...
Hi bortak, thanks for the quick response!!
I'm really kinda newbie in these things. Yeah, i have a custom rom and yes, I was rooted. However, I do really think I am unrooted because titanium backup (through superuser app that comes with leedroid's rom) says at startup that I'm not rooted. Is there any other way to know for sure?
As you suggest, I thought on alpharev to s-off an then flash an updated recovery+rom. But I can't if unrooted (I don't know if that matters but my hboot is 0.80).
Is the goldcard+WWE RUU+revolutionary safe in my case?
Thanks a lot!
bortak said:
Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...
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bortak I've read in your guide (amazing, thanks in the name of humankind ) and found that revolutionary only supports hboots 0.93.0001 and 1.02.0001 but mine is 0.80.0000.
Visionary is useful in case of not having a recovery, but I have clockworkmod 2.0.5. Is there any way to root my desire again so I can use alpharev to get s-off?
With s-off I could install an updated CWM so I can format the sd or install an stock RUU to get the phone to service center, am I right?
Thanks!!!
Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio
shuprio said:
Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio
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Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!
coriscow said:
Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!
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Yes Coriscow. It is the RUU. Best of luck! Hope everything will be fine.
Thanks-
Shuprio
Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
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rootSU said:
Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
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rootSU that's it, thanks!
My main concern was that the phone was (seemed to be) unrooted and unrevoked could not change that. However wiping the data through the recovery did it
Now I will try to fix all the other thins like flashing a RUU to update the HBOOT. If so use revolutionary
Thanks you all, i'll keep you posted as I do thing
I did it!!! At this point I'm S-OFF (I never was), updated hboot, rooted (I already was but, as rootsu said, unrevoked messed something up), fresh leedriod install and the problem about the phone freezeing randomly seems to have disappeared after a full sd and sdext format. Thank you all for the help, the guides, and so and so
Hey Guys,
Longtime no see.
Last Android I ran was a nook color that I flashed with gingerbread and that was a whole other kettle of fish.
I was donated a HTC Desire GSM and couldn't help myself and rooted it with unrevoked.
Then I updated the rom to Nikez Lentes ICS rom and I am very happy with it.
Now, I installed CWM and when it flashes it says that it is V5.0.2 but when I boot into recovery it is actually V2.5.0.
After a bit of reading I see that the author of the ROM and others and now using 4EXT Recovery so I bought that and went to give it a go but the S-ON is stopping it ( I booted into recovery and indeed it is S-ON currently ).
So reading up on how to turn ON to OFF I see unrevoked and alpharev have a solution for windows and linux only. ( I have VM windows and a raspberry pi linux ( but i assume the pi would be too underpowered to do this update))
I have read the wiki and read on the FAQ on this site that if you are not running the stock HTC rom that there could be an issue, is that correct ?
After all this, I am really just trying to make a Ext-SD partition on my SD card, cause the rom is like 120mb of the 140mb internal partition and I can't install enough apps to be happy.. lol.
I have the CWR image of V5.0.2 but am not sure really how to update it ( V2.5 is green text and V5.0 is blue so im sure I have the older version )
Or im happy to use 4EXT for my rom needs, but I need to change my S-ON to OFF to be able to flash the recovery and partition it that way.
If anyone can help that would be great, the whole setup has been rather painless and i'd like to keep it that way, I need the phone to work, but I would like to install more apps on the phone. The ROM also has a script built in so that is not the problem, just making a partition on the SD card really is what I need right now.
Thanks,
Steve
would it be because im currently S-OFF that I can't flash recovery above V2.5.0 or install 4EXT Recovery ?
Are you SON or SOFF ? Write down what your bootloader says.
1. Alpharev quote
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I dont know whether it will work with ICS though. I wouldnt try it since this is a bootloader mod. Maybe best to go stock rooted rom before running alpharev.
Revolutionary is the other option for getting soff.
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
steveb_123 said:
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
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Read my post. Best to go to a stock rooted rom before running alpharev. Thereafter flash 4ext. Partition your sdcard with 4ext. Flash rom of your choice.
Can I ask why it is better to go to a stock rooted rom ?
Installing the stock rom, and stock radio, to then run alpharev, to then root, to then install 4ext, sounds like a lot of work just to unlock the S-ON.
That is alpharev requirement. Read my first post.
Link for rooted stock romlink
Where does it say you need to run a stock rooted rom ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
the stock rooted rom that is U (updated) seems to be pulled and this guy has a URL at the top saying he has pulled the rom due to internal XDA fights.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
My suggestion is to run 2.3 ruu from htc dev and then use revolutionary, two flies in one hit, s-off and custom recovery, and then flashing su over recovery. Though you'll get cwm recovery after first boot you'll be able to flash 4ext.
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Thanks for that nloooo,
I downloaded, unrar'd and unzipped the folder and can see the 2.3 RUU exe there, so I just run that in a windows machine ?
then rev, then reflash you are suggesting ?
is it worth trying revolutionary without returning to stock RUU and if it doesn't work, then installing the 2.3 RUU ?
It alk depends on hboit version your phone has. If it is 0.93 or 1.02 than it should work no matter which rom you have. I'm suggesting 2.3 ruu cause you'll get 1.02 hboot and you're good to go.
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My hboot is 0.93.
If 0.93 + revolutionary could work, I would prefer to do it that way because I am very green playing with android (mostly just use non-jailbroken apple gear) But I am loving the desire + ICS.
Thank you handy and nlooo for replying.
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
steveb_123 said:
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
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You can always try, if it doesn't work you won't have any problems phone will work the same.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders
Thanks nlooo, you've been a huge help
Looks like tiredness has got the better of me and I screwed up my bootloader (I think).
I purchased a pre-rooted DHD, it was rooted through Advance Ace Hack Kit. I have 4ext installed as the recovery and have Ice cold sandwich flashed. I do have a nandroid backup of the rom.
Unfortunately I was running Advance Ace Hack Kit just to see what the options were as I was looking for installing an eng bootloader, unfortunately I selected option 1 by mistake and the software started running, phone rebooted a few times and now it's just stuck at the splash screen. I was in two minds to stop it mid-process but thought that might make things worse.
I also cannot access my 4ext recover, instead I get the red triangle and the htc recovery.
Damn, I'm annoyed with myself. I am tired and got momentarily distracted. I know one thing, if this can be fixed I won't be doing this again:crying:
Can this be brought back to life?
Ok, I have got myself out of this predicament by installing the stock wwe rom. Thankfully the phone rebooted, started up and the phone is back in business.
Of course I am still s-off, however I assume I am now unrooted.
Is there an easy option to root the device bearing in mind the phone is s-off? I want to root and flash cwm or 4ext.
Thanks.
Wht version of the Rom did u flash
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maritimesbob said:
Ok, I have got myself out of this predicament by installing the stock wwe rom. Thankfully the phone rebooted, started up and the phone is back in business.
Of course I am still s-off, however I assume I am now unrooted.
Is there an easy option to root the device bearing in mind the phone is s-off? I want to root and flash cwm or 4ext.
Thanks.
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In the "Ace Think Tank" thread (linked in my signature), post #7, there is a PDF that includes instructions on flashing a custom recovery from an S-OFF phone. Start from the bottom of page 9, the section labeled "S-OFF no custom recovery." After that, just flash a rooted ROM from the recovery.
Or, assuming you have a working ROM, you could look into SuperOneClick. I think it roots a ROM if the phone is S-OFF (however, I have never used it and can't speak to its reliability). Then you can just flash a recovery from an app like ROM Manager or 4ext Updater.
Finally, again assuming you have a working ROM, you could try flashing SuperSU from the zip here. Again, untested, but it has restored root on at least one occasion that I know of to an unrooted ROM.
Please note that I'm just throwing ideas around. If anyone knows that any of these methods doesn't work please say so.
Hello all,
Thanks for the replies.
I have the phone working, I installed the wwe htc sense rom that comes with 2.3.5 and sense 3.0. Pretty much my phone is factory reset, but at least it works now.
I lost root but do have s-off.
Use superoneclick. 2.3.3 it can easy root stock sense 3.0 when you are S-OFF which you are already.
1.First press temp root and wait for it to finish.
2.second root and wait for it to finish.
3.enjoy.
Got it sorted. I flashed a cwm recovery zip from an sdcard in bootloader. With cwm flashed, I could restore a nandroid backup. Back in business again.
If you want to unbrick your phone, you need to download an official RRU, or RUU or whatever it is that it is called. It is an EXE file that you download on your computer and run it. You can get it from HTC website, or google it. It's a stock setup of your phone. So you put the phone in red triangle mode, connect it to PC, and run the RRU file. It starts its magic and the phone will be back to stock with the sense and GB and everything. Use the Ace Hack Kit again to get it rooted and S-OFF if it isnt already and then install RoM as you want to.